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:Okay. The next time I'll only post the requested edit to your Talk-Page. I will not add anything about Hebron, but, for the record, here we're taking about Hebron during the reign of the Ottoman Sultan [[Selim I]]. Cheers.[[User:Davidbena|Davidbena]] ([[User talk:Davidbena|talk]]) 02:36, 24 July 2023 (UTC) |
:Okay. The next time I'll only post the requested edit to your Talk-Page. I will not add anything about Hebron, but, for the record, here we're taking about Hebron during the reign of the Ottoman Sultan [[Selim I]]. Cheers.[[User:Davidbena|Davidbena]] ([[User talk:Davidbena|talk]]) 02:36, 24 July 2023 (UTC) |
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::Just to clarify, David. I (re)wrote the Hebron article over a decade ago. When I first found it, there was zero information on the Arab history of the town, with everything focused on Jewish settlement. The Ottoman development is already covered, so this is not 'keeping stuff out for a POV'. And the delicacy over Arbpia is that early Jewish settlement is used to establish, particularly in settler historical accounts, the right to ownership, and the right to eviction of Arabs. The way the Ottoman history is read and promoted makes out that such facts form the warrant for what has happened there since (most recently by stuffing the place with Tibetan-Burman tribesmen). The only way to keep you out of trouble is to ensure that the lines are not blurred. It may look harsh, but it's in your best interests. What you should do is form a work page with all the material that is ambiguous in this sense, and retain it in draft until the time when the Arbs review your work and, I hope, loosen the strictness.[[User:Nishidani|Nishidani]] ([[User talk:Nishidani|talk]]) 07:56, 24 July 2023 (UTC) |
::Just to clarify, David. I (re)wrote the Hebron article over a decade ago. When I first found it, there was zero information on the Arab history of the town, with everything focused on Jewish settlement. The Ottoman development is already covered, so this is not 'keeping stuff out for a POV'. And the delicacy over Arbpia is that early Jewish settlement is used to establish, particularly in settler historical accounts, the right to ownership, and the right to eviction of Arabs. The way the Ottoman history is read and promoted makes out that such facts form the warrant for what has happened there since (most recently by stuffing the place with Tibetan-Burman tribesmen). The only way to keep you out of trouble is to ensure that the lines are not blurred. It may look harsh, but it's in your best interests. What you should do is form a work page with all the material that is ambiguous in this sense, and retain it in draft until the time when the Arbs review your work and, I hope, loosen the strictness.[[User:Nishidani|Nishidani]] ([[User talk:Nishidani|talk]]) 07:56, 24 July 2023 (UTC) |
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:::Thanks, Nishidani. That is why I seek permission before adding ''any ''edit whatsoever to pages bearing the ARBPIA tag. Be well.[[User:Davidbena|Davidbena]] ([[User talk:Davidbena|talk]]) 22:40, 24 July 2023 (UTC) |
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== Charles III requested move discussion == |
== Charles III requested move discussion == |
Revision as of 22:40, 24 July 2023
Adding images to article
Nableezy, with your permission, I would like to add the following two images (photographs taken by me) to the Wikipedia article Khirbat al-Tannur, in the article's "Gallery" section.
1)
![](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8f/Stone_wall_in_Khirbat_al-Tannur.jpg/220px-Stone_wall_in_Khirbat_al-Tannur.jpg)
and
2)
![](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/98/Ruins_at_Khirbat_al-Tannur_-_2.jpg/220px-Ruins_at_Khirbat_al-Tannur_-_2.jpg)
If you give to me the go-ahead, I will upload them to the article, with the current captions.Davidbena (talk) 23:59, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
- looks fine to me. nableezy - 03:12, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
Removing an Ivote
I am going to AGF and presume removing this Ivote in an AFD was a mistake [1]. Even though some other editor struck the comment it needs to stay in the AFD discussion. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 18:15, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
- No it was not a mistake, and no it does not need to stay, that vote is a violation of ARBPIA requiring extended confirmed rights to participate in project wide discussions. It had not been meaningfully replied to and ARBPIA specifies reverting ECP violations. nableezy - 18:46, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
- OK thanks. I'm obviously not familiar with ARBPIA. ---Steve Quinn (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 19:24, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
- Things like editors showing up from obvious off-wiki notifications, the rampant sockpuppetry, and the consistent gaming of our policies over decades has led to a more restrictive editing environment unfortunately. Some of those things are very obviously on display in that AFD for that matter. nableezy - 02:43, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
- OK thanks. I'm obviously not familiar with ARBPIA. ---Steve Quinn (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 19:24, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
Jerusalem
@Nableezy:, In the article Jerusalem, under the section of “Modern era”, I would like to add (with your permission) the following sub-section, immediately following the sub-section that reads: “Ottoman period (16th–19th centuries)”:
*Jewish immigration to Palestine*
During the reign of Sultan Bayezid II (1481 –1512), the gates of Ottoman Turkey were opened to the Jews expelled from Spain, and in the days of Sultan Selim I, they were allowed to enter the territories he conquered, including Palestine.[1] Rabbi Moses Bassola, who visited Palestine in 1521–1522, testified that, largely due to this immigration, the Jewish community in Jerusalem grew and the deportees from Spain became the majority of the Jewish population in Jerusalem (which at that time numbered about 300 families).[1] Another Jewish community in the Judean Mountains was in Hebron.[1]
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References
Davidbena (talk) 14:09, 21 July 2023 (UTC) Davidbena (talk) 14:09, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
@Davidbena: try to ask here and not at the article talk, and this is fine. nableezy - 14:15, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
- Okay. The next time I'll only post the requested edit to your Talk-Page. I will not add anything about Hebron, but, for the record, here we're taking about Hebron during the reign of the Ottoman Sultan Selim I. Cheers.Davidbena (talk) 02:36, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
- Just to clarify, David. I (re)wrote the Hebron article over a decade ago. When I first found it, there was zero information on the Arab history of the town, with everything focused on Jewish settlement. The Ottoman development is already covered, so this is not 'keeping stuff out for a POV'. And the delicacy over Arbpia is that early Jewish settlement is used to establish, particularly in settler historical accounts, the right to ownership, and the right to eviction of Arabs. The way the Ottoman history is read and promoted makes out that such facts form the warrant for what has happened there since (most recently by stuffing the place with Tibetan-Burman tribesmen). The only way to keep you out of trouble is to ensure that the lines are not blurred. It may look harsh, but it's in your best interests. What you should do is form a work page with all the material that is ambiguous in this sense, and retain it in draft until the time when the Arbs review your work and, I hope, loosen the strictness.Nishidani (talk) 07:56, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
Charles III requested move discussion
There is a new requested move discussion in progress for the Charles III article. Since you participated in the previous discussion, I thought you might like to know about this one. Cheers. Rreagan007 (talk) 05:52, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
Edit on the "Achziv" Wikipedia page
@Nableezy:, again, with your permission, I wish to make a short but pertinent addition to the article Achziv, at the end of the section "Iron Age." The addition will change the last sentence (which is already redundant) to read as follows: "Prior to the Assyrian invasion of Achziv under Sennacherib, in the late 8th-century, Achziv and Akko belonged to the king of Sidon, and were considered Hittite territory.[1]
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References
- ^ Luckenbill, Daniel David (1924). The Annals of Sennacherib. Chicago: University of Chicago Press. pp. 29–30. OCLC 506728.