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==Bethlehem== |
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== Adding images to article == |
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Before a revert-war is started in violation of [[WP:3RR|special revert conditions of Bethlehem]]. I suggest we discuss what is the best way to describe the area. شكرًا لك [[User:Sallicio|'''It's me... Sallicio!''']][[User talk:Sallicio|<sup><math>\color{Red} \oplus</math></sup>]] 17:10, 14 May 2024 (UTC) |
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Nableezy, with your permission, I would like to add the following two images (photographs taken by me) to the Wikipedia article [[Khirbat al-Tannur]], in the article's "Gallery" section. |
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1) [[File:Stone wall in Khirbat al-Tannur.jpg|thumb|Stone wall in Khirbat al-Tannur]] |
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2) [[File:Ruins at Khirbat al-Tannur - 2.jpg|thumb|Ruins at Khirbat al-Tannur]] |
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If you give to me the go-ahead, I will upload them to the article, with the current captions.[[User:Davidbena|Davidbena]] ([[User talk:Davidbena|talk]]) 23:59, 11 July 2023 (UTC) |
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::{{done}} [[User:Davidbena|Davidbena]] ([[User talk:Davidbena|talk]]) 02:52, 13 July 2023 (UTC) |
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==Removing an Ivote== |
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I am going to AGF and presume removing this Ivote in an AFD was a mistake [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Zionism,_race_and_genetics&diff=prev&oldid=1165048543]. Even though some other editor struck the comment it needs to stay in the AFD discussion. ---[[User:Steve Quinn|Steve Quinn]] ([[User talk:Steve Quinn|talk]]) 18:15, 12 July 2023 (UTC) |
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:No it was not a mistake, and no it does not need to stay, that vote is a violation of ARBPIA requiring extended confirmed rights to participate in project wide discussions. It had not been meaningfully replied to and ARBPIA specifies reverting ECP violations. <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">'''[[User talk:Nableezy|<span style="color:#C11B17">nableezy</span>]]''' - 18:46, 12 July 2023 (UTC)</small> |
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::OK thanks. I'm obviously not familiar with ARBPIA. ---[[User:Steve Quinn|Steve Quinn]] ([[User talk:Steve Quinn|talk]]) <!--Template:Undated--><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|undated]] comment added 19:24, 12 July 2023 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:::Things like editors showing up from obvious off-wiki notifications, the rampant sockpuppetry, and the consistent gaming of our policies over decades has led to a more restrictive editing environment unfortunately. Some of those things are very obviously on display in that AFD for that matter. <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">'''[[User talk:Nableezy|<span style="color:#C11B17">nableezy</span>]]''' - 02:43, 13 July 2023 (UTC)</small> |
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== Jerusalem == |
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:The best way to describe the West Bank is the way sources do, which is [[Israeli occupation of the West Bank|Israeli occupied]]. This is the super majority view on that. Also, multiple people reverting your attempt to force through non neutral material is not a revert war. You should not be attempting to force in a contested change. '''[[User talk:Nableezy|<span style="color:#C11B17;font-size:90%">nableezy</span>]]''' - 19:55, 14 May 2024 (UTC) |
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{{ping|Nableezy}}, In the article [[Jerusalem]], under the section of “Modern era”, I would like to add (with your permission) the following sub-section, immediately following the sub-section that reads: “Ottoman period (16th–19th centuries)”: |
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::Hi Nableezy. I'm afraid smth went wrong after your last edit, the text disappears after "and as of 2021". Thanks, [[User:Arminden|Arminden]] ([[User talk:Arminden|talk]]) 21:09, 14 May 2024 (UTC) |
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<blockquote>*Jewish immigration to Palestine* |
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During the reign of Sultan [[Bayezid II]] (1481 –1512), the gates of Ottoman Turkey were opened to the [[Expulsion of Jews from Spain|Jews expelled]] from [[Spain]], and in the days of Sultan [[Selim I]], they were allowed to enter the territories he conquered, including [[Palestine (region)|Palestine]].<ref name=”Ben-Yosef”>{{cite book |author-last=Ben-Yosef |author-first=Sefi |author-link=:he:ספי בן-יוסף |editor=Ben-Yose, Sefi|contribution=A historical-settlement review |title=Israel Guide - Judaea (A useful encyclopedia for the knowledge of the country)|volume=9 |publisher=Keter Publishing House |location=Jerusalem|year=n.d.|page=50 |language=he|oclc=745203905 }}</ref> Rabbi [[Moses Bassola]], who visited Palestine in 1521–1522, testified that, largely due to this immigration, the Jewish community in Jerusalem grew and the deportees from Spain became the majority of the Jewish population in Jerusalem (which at that time numbered about 300 families).<ref name=”Ben-Yosef”/> Another Jewish community in the Judean Mountains was in [[Hebron]].<ref name=”Ben-Yosef”/> |
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</blockquote>.{{talk-reflist}}[[User:Davidbena|Davidbena]] ([[User talk:Davidbena|talk]]) 14:09, 21 July 2023 (UTC) [[User:Davidbena|Davidbena]] ([[User talk:Davidbena|talk]]) 14:09, 21 July 2023 (UTC) |
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{{ping|Davidbena}} try to ask here and not at the article talk, and this is fine. <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">'''[[User talk:Nableezy|<span style="color:#C11B17">nableezy</span>]]''' - 14:15, 21 July 2023 (UTC)</small> |
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::The bit about a few families settling in Hebron is irrelevant to Jerusalem. [[User:Nishidani|Nishidani]] ([[User talk:Nishidani|talk]]) 14:32, 21 July 2023 (UTC) |
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:::Agreed, but also irrelevant to if its covered by his topic ban. <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">'''[[User talk:Nableezy|<span style="color:#C11B17">nableezy</span>]]''' - 14:34, 21 July 2023 (UTC)</small> |
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:Okay. The next time I'll only post the requested edit to your Talk-Page. I will not add anything about Hebron, but, for the record, here we're taking about Hebron during the reign of the Ottoman Sultan [[Selim I]]. Cheers.[[User:Davidbena|Davidbena]] ([[User talk:Davidbena|talk]]) 02:36, 24 July 2023 (UTC) |
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::Just to clarify, David. I (re)wrote the Hebron article over a decade ago. When I first found it, there was zero information on the Arab history of the town, with everything focused on Jewish settlement. The Ottoman development is already covered, so this is not 'keeping stuff out for a POV'. And the delicacy over Arbpia is that early Jewish settlement is used to establish, particularly in settler historical accounts, the right to ownership, and the right to eviction of Arabs. The way the Ottoman history is read and promoted makes out that such facts form the warrant for what has happened there since (most recently by stuffing the place with Tibetan-Burman tribesmen). The only way to keep you out of trouble is to ensure that the lines are not blurred. It may look harsh, but it's in your best interests. What you should do is form a work page with all the material that is ambiguous in this sense, and retain it in draft until the time when the Arbs review your work and, I hope, loosen the strictness.[[User:Nishidani|Nishidani]] ([[User talk:Nishidani|talk]]) 07:56, 24 July 2023 (UTC) |
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:::Thanks, Nishidani. That is why I seek permission before adding ''any ''edit whatsoever to pages bearing the ARBPIA tag. Be well.[[User:Davidbena|Davidbena]] ([[User talk:Davidbena|talk]]) 22:40, 24 July 2023 (UTC) |
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== genocide == |
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== Charles III requested move discussion == |
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There is a [[Talk:Charles_III#Requested_move_23_July_2023|new requested move discussion]] in progress for the Charles III article. Since you participated in the previous discussion, I thought you might like to know about this one. Cheers. [[User:Rreagan007|Rreagan007]] ([[User talk:Rreagan007|talk]]) 05:52, 24 July 2023 (UTC) |
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If it is determined that Israel and Hamas committed genocide, what will the articles [[Palestinian genocide accusation]] and [[Allegations of genocide in the 2023 Hamas-led attack on Israel]] be renamed to? The first one is not only about the war in Gaza. [[User:Parham wiki|Parham wiki]] ([[User talk:Parham wiki|talk]]) 16:47, 20 May 2024 (UTC) |
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== Edit on the "Achziv" Wikipedia page == |
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:That isnt something I would decide, as Wikipedia has yet to anoint me to my rightful place of arbiter of all content. '''[[User talk:Nableezy|<span style="color:#C11B17;font-size:90%">nableezy</span>]]''' - 16:57, 20 May 2024 (UTC) |
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== The great man == |
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{{ping|Nableezy}}, again, with your permission, I wish to make a short but pertinent addition to the article [[Achziv]], at the end of the section "Iron Age." The addition will change the last sentence (which is already redundant) to read as follows: |
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"Prior to the Assyrian invasion of Achziv under [[Sennacherib]], in the late 8th-century BCE, Achziv and [[Akko]] belonged to the king of [[Sidon]], and were considered [[Hittites|Hittite]] territory.<ref>{{Cite book|last=Luckenbill|first=Daniel David|url=https://oi.uchicago.edu/research/publications/oip/oip-2-annals-sennacherib|title=The Annals of Sennacherib|publisher=[[University of Chicago Press]]|year=1924|pages=29-30 |location=Chicago|oclc=506728}}</ref> |
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[https://www.normanfinkelstein.com/genocide-in-gaza-why-isnt-the-world-doing-anything-to-stop-israel-norman-finkelstein/ speaking about his family], in case you missed it. Just 1 hr 15 minutes into it, the earlier part being of course quite familiar (even if his redeployment of the 'mowing the lawn' metaphor for 7 October was new to me). [[User:Nishidani|Nishidani]] ([[User talk:Nishidani|talk]]) 21:50, 20 May 2024 (UTC) |
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(End Quote).{{talk-reflist}}[[User:Davidbena|Davidbena]] ([[User talk:Davidbena|talk]]) 22:37, 24 July 2023 (UTC) |
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:Thats fine, <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">'''[[User talk:Nableezy|<span style="color:#C11B17">nableezy</span>]]''' - 22:44, 24 July 2023 (UTC)</small> |
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::{{done}} [[User:Davidbena|Davidbena]] ([[User talk:Davidbena|talk]]) 22:50, 24 July 2023 (UTC) |
Revision as of 21:52, 20 May 2024
Bethlehem
Before a revert-war is started in violation of special revert conditions of Bethlehem. I suggest we discuss what is the best way to describe the area. شكرًا لك It's me... Sallicio! 17:10, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- The best way to describe the West Bank is the way sources do, which is Israeli occupied. This is the super majority view on that. Also, multiple people reverting your attempt to force through non neutral material is not a revert war. You should not be attempting to force in a contested change. nableezy - 19:55, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
genocide
If it is determined that Israel and Hamas committed genocide, what will the articles Palestinian genocide accusation and Allegations of genocide in the 2023 Hamas-led attack on Israel be renamed to? The first one is not only about the war in Gaza. Parham wiki (talk) 16:47, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
- That isnt something I would decide, as Wikipedia has yet to anoint me to my rightful place of arbiter of all content. nableezy - 16:57, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
The great man
speaking about his family, in case you missed it. Just 1 hr 15 minutes into it, the earlier part being of course quite familiar (even if his redeployment of the 'mowing the lawn' metaphor for 7 October was new to me). Nishidani (talk) 21:50, 20 May 2024 (UTC)