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I've enjoyed the journey. This is an abrupt change. As circumstances have also changed abruptly. Any wiki love flowing about should be sufficient to accomplish that I ask; Please look after to close my connections to projects where I have formerly obligated service. Any remnants of this account may be deleted at administrative discretion. Feel free to otherwise consider it booty, or the contents of an abode, strewn at roadside, to become the property of the taker. I am sufficient taking my copies in memory form. I will check in from time to time, for the cheer I will surely acquire. These will display discrete intentions in their manner. |
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== Looking forward to publishing on Wiki == |
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I have reached the extent of my vocabulary. In every manner where prose have gone forth; I hope they mature to some consequence befitting their intention. I may add a thing here in another consideration, But for now, I am spent! Having paid a price. My last two days have shown deterioration in ability, motor-function, clouded comprehension, and other concerns. If these do not regain I am at fear to have paid up to 20% of my former self. Because I had accepted, trying to describe a glimpse of infinity, I had seen. My house, which is my account, My76Strat, is left in disarray, Intentionally to show an effect of instantaneous vanishing. I had heard of this, but did not understand. Enlightenment comes at cost, and I have rendered the accounts payable. |
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Hello. I am a student at San Francisco State University and I believe you are my assigned mentor. I look forward to working with you. Hopefully I won't bug you with too many questions.--[[User:Lena815|Lena815]] ([[User talk:Lena815|talk]]) 09:14, 10 February 2011 (UTC) |
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:I apologize for somehow missing this comment until now. Please understand that you are not a burden by asking questions for clarification. I, and most others are willingly eager to assist new users. So I leave that to your capable hands to inquire as needed. Aside from that I will review some of your recent contributions and comment to their effect as appropriate. Cheers. '''[[User:My76Strat|<span style="background:red;color:white">My</span><span style="background:red;color:white">76</span>]][[User talk:My76Strat|<span style="background:blue;color:white">Strat</span>]]''' 04:41, 25 February 2011 (UTC) |
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I do have one piece of advice; '''Fix''' the RfA process. The willingness to exact such a high cost, Is an egregious example of poor leadership, planing, implementation, and every other reasonable thing. That is not a universal indictment, as some of the very best I've known, contribute regularly. If not for them, I swear, death was potential. If it simply functioned in accordance with policy, as the encyclopedia, It could never relate to that level of stress. I may have encountered some, by my own mind; But I do advise, there is a liability there, waiting for opportunity. The unstructured employ of the program will not speak well if ever drawn to render. I knew mine was a once in a lifetime journey. |
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== marking mentees' userpages == |
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I did give my best, and fullest measure, to ensure no regrets for having tried. Some proper things were recorded; So it might be observed and show practices, contrary to Wikipedia itself. An astute observation will see the forming of words for attack, and then their use. And other techniques; To verbally beat you to literary death for nonacceptance. I do now walk with a slight drift to the left, But I trust In my faith, and know the last memories will show my fullest most upright stature. This is how I prefer being remembered. I may be an IP one day editing. If ever someone was to say "you did a thing which reminds me of Strat", It would be a deep form of respect, Simply for having been remembered. And there are some I will never! forget, even if my memory should cease, by dementia, parts of our interaction identified directly to my soul, and I will have association, to these few, beyond even the known things. |
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Hey Strat! This is just a quick reminder: please be sure to add {{tl|WAP student}} (for an example, see [[User:Sfofana]]) the user pages of your mentees. And once they are working on articles, be sure to tag the talk pages with {{tl|WAP assignment}}. Cheers--[[User:Sross (Public Policy)|Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation]] ([[User talk:Sross (Public Policy)|talk]]) 18:46, 14 February 2011 (UTC) |
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I am proud to have left record of my hand, across Wikipedian. Wishing the very best possible, even imaginable, continence, and peace abundant! [[User:My76Strat|My76Strat]] ([[User talk:My76Strat#top|talk]]) 02:38, 18 March 2011 (UTC) |
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== coordinate Byron Price's class? == |
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Howdy! Would you be willing to be the coordinating ambassador for Byron Price's [[Wikipedia:WikiProject United States Public Policy/Courses/Spring 2011/Seminar in Public Affairs (Byron E. Price)|Seminar in Public Affairs]] at Texas Southern University? |
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They are working on just a few articles as a class, it looks like, so this class probably won't need a mentor for every single student... maybe just one or two per article. So your main role would be to keep an eye on how the class is going overall, and get the attention of other ambassadors when more help is needed. Also, you could give all the students a welcome, if you're up for it. Thanks!--[[User:Sross (Public Policy)|Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation]] ([[User talk:Sross (Public Policy)|talk]]) 16:57, 16 February 2011 (UTC) |
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PS: If you'd like to do more, like coordinate another class, just let me know. |
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:Yes I will get on it right away. I would prefer at this time to only be obligated to the one class. If resources become strained and it seems that a class might be undeserved, I certainly could, and would take on another class. So consider me standing by as needed, and I will give a best effort to [[Wikipedia:WikiProject United States Public Policy/Courses/Spring 2011/Seminar in Public Affairs (Byron E. Price)|Seminar in Public Affairs]]. Thanks '''[[User:My76Strat|<span style="background:red;color:white">My</span><span style="background:red;color:white">76</span>]][[User talk:My76Strat|<span style="background:blue;color:white">Strat</span>]]''' 22:13, 16 February 2011 (UTC) |
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::Awesome! Thanks!--[[User:Sross (Public Policy)|Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation]] ([[User talk:Sross (Public Policy)|talk]]) 02:18, 17 February 2011 (UTC) |
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== Mentoring students: be sure to check in on them == |
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<small>This message is going out to all of the Online Ambassadors who are, or will be, serving as mentors this term.</small> |
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Hi there! This is just a friendly reminder to check in on what your mentees are doing. If they've started making edits, take a look and help them out or do some example fixes for them, if they need it. And if they are doing good, let them know it! |
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If you aren't mentoring anyone yet, it looks like you will be soon; at least one large class is asking us to assign mentors for them, and students in a number of others haven't yet gotten to asking ambassadors to be their mentors, but may soon. --[[User:Sross (Public Policy)|Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation]] ([[User talk:Sross (Public Policy)|talk]]) 20:07, 21 February 2011 (UTC) |
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== Request [[User:Soccerisforever|Soccerisforever]] == |
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Hi we just cited a sentence in the article we are currently editing. We cited the sentence under NYSE Composite Index. Check out my sandbox and let us know if it is okay... |
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```` <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Soccerisforever|Soccerisforever]] ([[User talk:Soccerisforever|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Soccerisforever|contribs]]) 15:01, 22 February 2011 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:The manner in which you cited your content inclusion seems fine to my observations. My advice to you is to edit the actual article and participate in any subsequent discussions which may follow. This accords with [[WP:BOLD|the Wikipedia policy on bold editing]], and garners the most relevant feedback as it applies to the edited article. And of course, if you have questions or need assistance, I will stand ready to assist you further. Happy editing. '''[[User:My76Strat|<span style="background:red;color:white">My</span><span style="background:red;color:white">76</span>]][[User talk:My76Strat|<span style="background:blue;color:white">Strat</span>]]''' 02:53, 25 February 2011 (UTC) |
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== hello == |
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hey i hear you go to jmu i live in vA well just saying hi and i cant wait to begin editing <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Seanjr2|Seanjr2]] ([[User talk:Seanjr2|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Seanjr2|contribs]]) 03:22, 23 February 2011 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:Hello, I look forward to your contributions. The hackernoob article didn't quite fit Wikipedia inclusion criteria, but it was a [[WP:BOLD|bold]] attempt at editing. Hopefully there was something to be learned, making you that much better able to contribute to the encyclopedia. Kind regards. '''[[User:My76Strat|<span style="background:red;color:white">My</span><span style="background:red;color:white">76</span>]][[User talk:My76Strat|<span style="background:blue;color:white">Strat</span>]]''' 03:32, 23 February 2011 (UTC) |
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== Request [[User:Dancer107|Dancer107]] == |
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Hello. We would like you to help us in the process of editing the article on Women's Suffrage. We plan on removing some of the links in the article that do not lead to any real links. The changes we have already made in the article are removing the links named "Queen of Australia," "Armed Forces," "Mayor," and "Middle Class." Hopefully you will approve our decisions. Thank you. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Dancer107|Dancer107]] ([[User talk:Dancer107|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dancer107|contribs]]) 15:23, 23 February 2011 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:I have reviewed the edits you made to the draft in your sandbox, and for the most part everything seems fine with your actions. It is always a good idea to include an edit summary describing your edit. This allows others to understand your rational, which is particularly helpful when an edit is otherwise not self apparent. For example most of your edits were to remove interwiki links to other articles. Someone else might prefer to retain the link, whereas a summary like "removing previously linked term" or "removing link per [[WP:OVERLINK]]", would show that your actions were more than simply random. Otherwise the best course of action is to edit the actual article with your suggested improvements and allow the process of Wikipedia consensus to build the article. In fact you become part of the consensus when you begin contributing your edits. With that I encourage you to begin editing within the article as soon as you are ready. I posted some general information on your talk page which may also be helpful. Good luck and happy editing. '''[[User:My76Strat|<span style="background:red;color:white">My</span><span style="background:red;color:white">76</span>]][[User talk:My76Strat|<span style="background:blue;color:white">Strat</span>]]''' 03:29, 25 February 2011 (UTC) |
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== Request [[User:Hannah1D|Hannah1D]] == |
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Hello. We would like you to help us edit the article of Oligarchy. We are only doing one paragraph, the paragraph that needs resources and references. Thank you. [[User:Hannah1D|Hannah1D]] ([[User talk:Hannah1D|talk]]) 12:57, 24 February 2011 (UTC) |
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:The best action for you to pursue is to [[WP:BOLD|edit in good faith]] and monitor the article for subsequent changes and discussion. Aside from that, I am available to assist whenever you may require assistance. Generally however, the tools to effect an improvement to an article rest in your capable hands. Happy editing. '''[[User:My76Strat|<span style="background:red;color:white">My</span><span style="background:red;color:white">76</span>]][[User talk:My76Strat|<span style="background:blue;color:white">Strat</span>]]''' 07:07, 25 February 2011 (UTC) |
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== user:Tinker156440 == |
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We recently edited the article "dictatorship" for our school project. Can you check out our changes on my sandbox. We changed the post-war era and the cold war section as well as the first line. |
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Thanks in advance! <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Tinker156440|Tinker156440]] ([[User talk:Tinker156440|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Tinker156440|contribs]]) 13:13, 25 February 2011 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== IRC chat == |
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Hello, there is an upcoming, very informal discussion on IRC on the freenode channel {{IRC|#chzzalpha}} ([http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=##chzzalpha quick webchat link]) on the 6th March 2011 at 17:00 UTC concerning ways to improve help over IRC, and other matters relating to Wiki?edia channels in general, but mostly about #wikipedia-en-help. |
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'''This is just a friendly, informal chat'''. Nothing official, no fixed agenda. There is nothing 'secretive' about it - anyone is quite welcome. Some of you had a chat there, the other day. We wanted to invite them to carry on discussions, at a prearranged time - and thought it courteous to ask group contacts and channel founders too. Or if you signed up manually. |
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If you aren't at all interested, feel free to remove yourself from the names we've spammed this to, which is in [[User:123Hedgehog456/IRC informal chat users]]. If you didn't sign up, well, people have been adding loads of names to the list, so someone might have accidentally added your name. |
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Thank you, <small><span style="border:1px solid;background:#00008B">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background:#00008B;color:white"> Chzz </span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B;background-color:yellow;"> ► </span>]]</span></small> and '''[[User talk:123Hedgehog456|<span style="color: red">1</span><span style="color: blue">2</span><span style="color: green">3</span>]][[User:123Hedgehog456|<span style="color: green">Hedgehog</span>]][[Special:Contributions/123Hedgehog456|<span style="color: green">4</span><span style="color: blue">5</span><span style="color: red">6</span>]]''' 19:49, 15 February 2011 (UTC). |
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== IRC invitation == |
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Because I have noticed you commenting at the current RfC regarding Pending Changes, I wanted to invite you to the IRC channel for [irc://freenode/wikipedia-en-pending pending changes]. If you are not customarily logged into the IRC, [http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=wikipedia-en-pending use this link]. This under used resource can allow real time discussion at this particularly timely venture of the trial known as Pending Changes. Even if nothing can come from debating points there, at least this invitation is delivered with the best of intentions and good faith expectations. Kind regards. '''[[User:My76Strat|<span style="background:red;color:white">My</span><span style="background:red;color:white">76</span>]][[User talk:My76Strat|<span style="background:blue;color:white">Strat</span>]]''' 08:27, 2 March 2011 (UTC) |
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:Hi, I already voted and I like to do content more than chat or vote. This is to formally authorize you to copy my vote there '''in favor of Pending changes''' where ever possible. I love Pending changes, an I think it is the future of Wikipedia. [[User:History2007|History2007]] ([[User talk:History2007|talk]]) 12:30, 2 March 2011 (UTC) |
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::Thanks for that reply. I understand your desire to participate in editing Wikipedia while forgoing the often unpleasant exchanges which discussion entails. I don't think it would be possible for me to append your vote when the official poll is published, but I will make a note to tell you when that poll is taking place so you can place your suggestion there if you like. Happy editing. '''[[User:My76Strat|<span style="background:red;color:white">My</span><span style="background:red;color:white">76</span>]][[User talk:My76Strat|<span style="background:blue;color:white">Strat</span>]]''' 16:47, 2 March 2011 (UTC) |
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::: I voted against pending changes and I dislike (almost to the point of refusing) to use IRC as a venue for discussion. It has been proven in multiple ArbCom cases where IRC is the source of drama. So in short, thanks for the invitation but no thanks. [[User:OhanaUnited|<b><font color="#0000FF">OhanaUnited</font></b>]][[User talk:OhanaUnited|<b><font color="green"><sup>Talk page</sup></font></b>]] 15:31, 2 March 2011 (UTC) |
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::::Thank you for that reply. I appreciate your candor, and respect your informed decision. I do wish to note that I invited users who commented at the RfC without regard to their opinion of PC. This because the most productive debate would intuitively require representation from opposing points of view. For my part, I support PC even while acknowledging the outright prudent concerns of many who oppose. In all regards, thanks. '''[[User:My76Strat|<span style="background:red;color:white">My</span><span style="background:red;color:white">76</span>]][[User talk:My76Strat|<span style="background:blue;color:white">Strat</span>]]''' 16:47, 2 March 2011 (UTC) |
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== [[List of armed conflicts and attacks, 2011]] IRC chat == |
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can you put the tag on the related feb part if you figure it out? i have to go offline now.[[User:Lihaas|Lihaas]] ([[User talk:Lihaas|talk]]) 12:40, 2 March 2011 (UTC) |
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:ok, just read your irc.[[User:Lihaas|Lihaas]] ([[User talk:Lihaas|talk]]) 12:44, 2 March 2011 (UTC) |
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::I did work up an example which I posted to your talkpage. I also effected the edit to the article you listed, to fully demonstrate application using the examples provided. Thank you for you longstanding contributions to Wikipedia. I am glad, indeed honored, to have taken your question last evening. '''[[User:My76Strat|<span style="background:red;color:white">My</span><span style="background:red;color:white">76</span>]][[User talk:My76Strat|<span style="background:blue;color:white">Strat</span>]]''' 17:06, 2 March 2011 (UTC) |
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== Online Ambassador Program == |
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Please take a look at [[Wikipedia:WikiProject United States Public Policy/Courses/Media and Telecommunication Policy spring 2011 (Obar)|this]] project page and see if you can be a mentor to one of the many Areas of Study. If you can, please put your name in the "Online Mentor" area of the Area of Study of your choice and then contact the students you will be working with. As the Coordinating Online Ambassador for this project, please let me know if I can be of assistance. Take Care...<small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #900;padding:1px;">[[User:Neutralhomer|<span style="color:#900;">Neutralhomer</span>]] • [[User talk:Neutralhomer|<span style="color:Black;">Talk</span>]] • 04:28, 3 March 2011 (UTC)</small> |
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:No problem. '''[[User:My76Strat|<span style="background:red;color:white">My</span><span style="background:red;color:white">76</span>]][[User talk:My76Strat|<span style="background:blue;color:white">Strat</span>]]''' 04:40, 3 March 2011 (UTC) |
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== Looking forward to Editing Wikipedia == |
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Hello, my name is Allen and me and a couple of my group members have you assigned as an online mentor on our Wikipedia project for TC 210 at Michigan State University. I am new with wikipedia so hopefully, I don't make too many mistakes. Anyways we look forward to working with you! [[User:Amoy48473|Amoy48473]] ([[User talk:Amoy48473|talk]]) 14:43, 3 March 2011 (UTC) |
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== Thank you for your help (to someone else) == |
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"Consider if this example helps" |
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nice! Stolen.. for use elsewhere :-) --[[User:Demiurge1000|Demiurge1000]] ([[User talk:Demiurge1000|talk]]) 02:33, 5 March 2011 (UTC) |
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:Thanks for the nod. You are welcome to use it as you see fit. After all, it is a collaboration. Cheers '''[[User:My76Strat|<span style="background:red;color:white">My</span><span style="background:red;color:white">76</span>]][[User talk:My76Strat|<span style="background:blue;color:white">Strat</span>]]''' 02:48, 5 March 2011 (UTC) |
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== [[User:Jaobar]] == |
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Excuse me, but would you care to explain just ''what'' exactly is going on at [[User:Jaobar]] and [[Jonathan A. Obar]]? I had [[Jonathan A. Obar]] moved back to [[User:Jaobar]] as a userpage in the mainspace, then, you come by minutes afterward move the [[User:Jaobar]] ''back'' into the mainspace. Before I revert you, tell me, ''why'', of all things, does the professor's '''userpage''' belong in the mainspace? -'''[[User:Fastily|<span style='font-family: "Trebuchet MS"; color:#4B0082'><big>F</big><small>ASTILY</small></span>]]''' <sup><small>[[User talk:Fastily|<span style = 'color:#4B0082'>(TALK)</span>]]</small></sup> 04:56, 9 March 2011 (UTC) |
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:[[User talk:Fastily#Clarification|Replied]] -'''[[User:Fastily|<span style='font-family: "Trebuchet MS"; color:#4B0082'><big>F</big><small>ASTILY</small></span>]]''' <sup><small>[[User talk:Fastily|<span style = 'color:#4B0082'>(TALK)</span>]]</small></sup> 07:27, 9 March 2011 (UTC) |
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== Re:Clarification == |
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{{Tb|Fastily|Clarification}} |
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-'''[[User:Fastily|<span style='font-family: "Trebuchet MS"; color:#4B0082'><big>F</big><small>ASTILY</small></span>]]''' <sup><small>[[User talk:Fastily|<span style = 'color:#4B0082'>(TALK)</span>]]</small></sup> 10:13, 9 March 2011 (UTC) |
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== Your RfA == |
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As a frequenter of RfAs, I can confidently say: you have nothing to worry about. There are a few who have made accusations, but there's no general impression that you're handling yourself badly or doing a bad job with the questions. The CSD mistakes may or may not derail this RfA, but there's no reason you can't pass RfA in the future (6 months is generally safe) if you want to. |
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On another note, I'm impressed with your work and happy to see you're a veteran. Feel free to participate in any way you like over at [[WT:MILHIST]]. One fun thing to do is to read and participate (any comment is welcome) at our peer reviews, A-class reviews and FACs. Nice work, and good luck. - Dank ([[User talk:Dank|push to talk]]) 13:50, 9 March 2011 (UTC) |
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:Thank you for that. I can't express how uplifting a kind word can be in a situation like I find myself in. And yours are timely as well. Highest regards.'''[[User:My76Strat|<span style="background:red;color:white">My</span><span style="background:red;color:white">76</span>]][[User talk:My76Strat|<span style="background:blue;color:white">Strat</span>]]''' 14:18, 9 March 2011 (UTC) |
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::You're quite welcome. - Dank ([[User talk:Dank|push to talk]]) 14:43, 9 March 2011 (UTC) |
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:::Btw, I don't believe it will make a significant difference in this or a future RFA whether you keep your current signature. I was just looking at [[User talk:Geometry guy|Geometry guy]]'s talk page, and it's full of sigs that don't mention "talk" from long-time admins. - Dank ([[User talk:Dank|push to talk]]) 19:43, 9 March 2011 (UTC) |
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Hi My76Strat. I didn't mention this in your RfA, but I feel compelled to tell you directly. I have trouble understanding you. You use big words when small words would be better. For example, I sort of understand what you meant when you told HJ Mitchell "I am proud to have had my character enunciated by you," but it took me a minute to parse it. And it took me longer than that to understand what you meant by "I don't know if I can elevate your prudent concerns." You may want to consider speaking more plainly. If you become an administrator, you will need to be able to speak clearly and concisely to newcomers when they ask why you've done something (like deleted the page they were working on). Your current style of communication is not clear or concise at all. I hope you don't take offense at this comment, it's genuinely intended to help. I know you're a hard-working editor who has the best interests of the project at heart, which is why I didn't oppose. [[User:28bytes|28bytes]] ([[User talk:28bytes|talk]]) 17:37, 9 March 2011 (UTC) |
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:No offense taken at all. You are correct and I appreciate your honesty. I especially appreciate that you positioned yourself neutral. It makes me believe you are sincere. For the rest of this RfA I will act accordingly, and communicate like you suggested. Heck I might even get a few points across, which would have to help. Thank you for being straight up. '''[[User:My76Strat|<span style="background:red;color:white">My</span><span style="background:red;color:white">76</span>]][[User talk:My76Strat|<span style="background:blue;color:white">Strat</span>]]''' 18:06, 9 March 2011 (UTC) |
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::While I have no problem with your 'wordiness' (probably because I do the same thing sometimes), I ''did'' laugh when Fetchcomms told you that you sound too formal, and you replied, "Sorry for the wordiness. I'm working on it. ''Esteemed regards''." |
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::Just found that humorously ironic. Anyway, while I'm here, let me just say best of luck in the remainder of your RfA. I'm very impressed with your conduct there. RfA is a ''tough'' place and the way you're handling the criticism is amazing. If not in this RfA, you'll be a great admin eventually. Best regards, ''[[User:Swarm|<span style='color:black'><font face="Old English Text MT">Swarm</font></span>]]'' <sup>[[User talk:Swarm|<span style="color:blue;"><font face="old english text mt">X</font></span>]]</sup> 22:01, 9 March 2011 (UTC) |
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== Note from Jaobar == |
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Just wanted to post a little note to apologize for what has happened. I left a more detailed note on [[User talk:Fastily]] describing my take on the situation. I found you to be both courteous and helpful. I have no idea why you needed to be publicly chastised like that. Thank you again for your help, it was much appreciated. [[User:Jaobar|Jaobar]] ([[User talk:Jaobar|talk]]) 16:56, 9 March 2011 (UTC) |
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:Sir, you absolutely do not owe me an apology, That you were made to feel that you should, is an egregious affront to everything Wikipedia is founded upon. Absolutely everything. I am unable to describe the emotional impact of your words. I want you to know that it is people exactly like you, that make me enjoy being part of this community. I will admit, for a moment I was almost sorry for having responded to your request for help. I feel shame for even considering that possibility. I look forward to our future interactions and again extend my heartfelt appreciation for the gesture of your response. '''[[User:My76Strat|<span style="background:red;color:white">My</span><span style="background:red;color:white">76</span>]][[User talk:My76Strat|<span style="background:blue;color:white">Strat</span>]]''' 18:55, 9 March 2011 (UTC) |
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:: I will add that if you would like me to describe what happened in greater detail to "the authorities," to help ensure that you don't lose your position, I would be more than happy to do so. [[User:Jaobar|Jaobar]] ([[User talk:Jaobar|talk]]) 16:57, 9 March 2011 (UTC) |
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:::To be honest, I am not even sure anyone really cares. That is excepting you. For what it is worth, the care you have shown is of far greater consequence than the collective disregard of the entire cabal. I would like to say with all confidence that I wasn't at all concerned. Meaning that I had unwavering support from my peers. For some reason unknown to me, I was shown the house of cards I had mistaken as a fortress. For now I will depend on my own resilience. But if I was to be fooled, and a contingent did seek the truth. I am glad that you stand ready to help them find it. At least it is a great consolation being reminded that I am not entirely alone in this regard. Thank you again. '''[[User:My76Strat|<span style="background:red;color:white">My</span><span style="background:red;color:white">76</span>]][[User talk:My76Strat|<span style="background:blue;color:white">Strat</span>]]''' 19:19, 9 March 2011 (UTC) |
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== Hey == |
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I know RfA can be tough (I've been through to of my own and nominated quite a few others with... varying results!), but try not to take it personally. Trust me, I know it stings{{mdash}}I took a lot of flak for some CSD tags (much more shocking than any of yours!) that were pretty shite in my first RfA, but I recovered. There's hope yet, but, as Dank said above, if the tags do derail it, learn from them and try again in the summer. Feel free to email me if you feel the need to vent. Best, [[User:HJ Mitchell|<font color="Teal" face="Tahoma">'''HJ Mitchell'''</font>]] | [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<font color="Navy" face= "Times New Roman">Penny for your thoughts? </font>]] 20:35, 9 March 2011 (UTC) |
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:Thank you for that encouragement, I hate to say this or ask this, but am I entitled to the full 7 days or can an admin force an early close? Because I at least want to see this through to the end. '''[[User:My76Strat|<span style="background:red;color:white">My</span><span style="background:red;color:white">76</span>]][[User talk:My76Strat|<span style="background:blue;color:white">Strat</span>]]''' 20:44, 9 March 2011 (UTC) |
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::If you really want your full 7 days, you're perfectly entitled to it. Any editor in good standing can close an RfA that's clearly not going to succeed, but it wouldn't normally happen if you put a note somewhere on the talk page requesting it be left open for the full 7 days (unless you decide you want to withdraw). [[User:HJ Mitchell|<font color="Teal" face="Tahoma">'''HJ Mitchell'''</font>]] | [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<font color="Navy" face= "Times New Roman">Penny for your thoughts? </font>]] 20:49, 9 March 2011 (UTC) |
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== On your RFA == |
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:It is undoubtedly the littlest of things which have the greatest power to heal. If I emerge this RfA with nothing more than to have been uplifted by my peers, I will emerge better for it. With Sincere appreciation. '''[[User:My76Strat|<span style="background:red;color:white">My</span><span style="background:red;color:white">76</span>]][[User talk:My76Strat|<span style="background:blue;color:white">Strat</span>]]''' 22:34, 9 March 2011 (UTC) |
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== The third reason == |
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I didn't want to include this on the RfA itself, but you should know that in addition to the CSD concerns and concerns over communication style, there is a third reason I will not be supporting this RfA. Quite simply, I find your actions during this RfA to be very strange. Aside from the business on Fastily's talk page, and your grandiloquent and self-deprecating (almost self-pitying, actually) replies to opposes, supports, and neutrals alike, I have to wonder what you are thinking with your edits to your own talk page, in particular the edits surrounding Jaobar's comments above. |
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Jaobar first posted his comments in the "Your RfA" section above. You then extracted them and gave them their own section heading, [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:My76Strat&diff=prev&oldid=417995184 "Highest of high esteem"], which is a very odd thing to do. I assume Jaobar thought it was odd as well, since he changed the heading to "Note from Jaobar". |
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You then [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:My76Strat&diff=418000265&oldid=417997669 indented] his first comment and inserted one of your own between his first and second comments to make it appear that he was responding to your comment. Why on earth would you do that? This may seem like a petty concern, but it seems that your edits are a bit deceptive here. Again, I'm not going to bring this up on the RfA, but I wanted to let you know of my concern directly. I understand that you are anxious to "convert" the neutrals and opposes into supports, but I have enough concerns that I will be staying in the neutral column. I'm sorry if you feel that is unfair of me. [[User:28bytes|28bytes]] ([[User talk:28bytes|talk]]) 06:46, 10 March 2011 (UTC) |
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:No that is not unfair, or even unexpected. But I did not know taking an action on your userpage could be an area of concern. Yes I did do the things you stated, except it was never my intention to deceive. But yeah, if it is some kind of taboo no-no, or policy violation, I was unaware of that. Even if it is only a pet peeve of yours it would be enough for me to discontinue such a practice. My only thoughts were to address each question separately, and to place them in a section of the highest magnitude. The comments took me by complete surprise, and at least at that moment they floored me in an emotional sense. The funny thing about the whole scenario is, if you had asked me yesterday, I would have said his renaming a section on my talkpage was more inappropriate. But from here I wonder if it would be best to never change things. People routinely will add a something inside another section, and I normally move them to their own section. Any way, thanks for discussing it with me. Cheers '''[[User:My76Strat|<span style="background:red;color:white">My</span><span style="background:red;color:white">76</span>]][[User talk:My76Strat|<span style="background:blue;color:white">Strat</span>]]''' 07:26, 10 March 2011 (UTC) |
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::[[WP:REFACTOR]] is the relevant policy. --[[User:Demiurge1000|Demiurge1000]] ([[User talk:Demiurge1000|talk]]) 08:20, 10 March 2011 (UTC) |
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:::Thanks for the link. While I can't change that I may have done a certain thing, I can, and do, assure all who observe these: You will also see a change in conduct, from the earlier form. '''[[User:My76Strat|<span style="background:red;color:white">My</span><span style="background:red;color:white">76</span>]][[User talk:My76Strat|<span style="background:blue;color:white">Strat</span>]]''' 13:20, 10 March 2011 (UTC) |
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OK, let me try to explain this one. |
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It is often useful, appropriate and beneficial to refactor talk-page comments - as 'housekeeping'. However, it is important to be careful in doing so. Don't get hung up on exact policy/guideline wording; it is more about careful consideration and applying common sense. |
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The same basic concerns apply to your own talk page, to an article talk page, or even in an RfA - although you can be a bit more bold on your own talk. |
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Specific examples; |
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*If an IP user puts a message at the end of a talk page, it'll appear to be within another section. In that case, it'd be perfectly acceptable to add a section heading - something neutral, such as == Comment from IP == would be best. |
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:*However, if someone has put a message in one section, then moving it into another section might be misleading. An obvious example, if someone wrote "This is great! <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>" in a section called == Comments about the picture == and it was moved into a section called == Review of the article ==. I'm sure you'd never consider doing that - it's an extreme example - but the same ''can'' happen if you move things between sections in a less obvious manner. |
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*If someone leaves a message making several points, it might occasionally be clearer to respond to them "in-line" - but its best to sign each one, and also not to change the indentation of the users comments. |
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*Be careful about indenting comments from another user. If someone has begun a line with a space, and so it gets treated as a comment, then it'd make sense to just remove the space. But if a user has made several comments, then indenting them with colons ''could'' appear misleading. |
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A specific example, |
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'''My talkpage - a user called "Example" adds a question, at the end - so it looks like it is in the last section;''' |
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<nowiki>== Unrelated message that was here beforehand ==</nowiki> |
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Chzz, please see my talk page, thanks. [[User:Nortonius|Nortonius]] ([[User talk:Nortonius|talk]]) 00:01 1 March 2011 (UTC) |
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Hello Chzz, |
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What is the link for the helpdesk? |
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And where is the reference desk? |
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Thanks! [[user:Example|Example]] ([[user talk:Example|talk]]) 00:01, 10 March 2011 (UTC) |
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'''A reasonable re-factoring;''' |
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<nowiki>== Unrelated message that was here beforehand ==</nowiki> |
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Chzz, please see my talk page, thanks. [[User:Nortonius|Nortonius]] ([[User talk:Nortonius|talk]]) 00:01 1 March 2011 (UTC) |
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<nowiki>== Question from User:Example ==</nowiki> |
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Hello Chzz, |
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What is the link for the helpdesk? |
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:It is [[WP:HD]]. <small><span style="border:1px solid;background:#00008B">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background:#00008B;color:white"> Chzz </span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B;background-color:yellow;"> ► </span>]]</span></small> 16:55, 10 March 2011 (UTC) |
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And where is the reference desk? |
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:[[WP:RD]] <small><span style="border:1px solid;background:#00008B">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background:#00008B;color:white"> Chzz </span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B;background-color:yellow;"> ► </span>]]</span></small> 16:55, 10 March 2011 (UTC) |
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Thanks! [[user:Example|Example]] ([[user talk:Example|talk]]) 00:01, 10 March 2011 (UTC) |
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<small>I wouldn't normally reply 'in-line' to something like that; it is just for illustration. And of course I'd give a better answer too!</small> |
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I think there were two (fairly minor) specific concerns with your "Note from Jaobar" edits - that you a) chose a rather non-neutral section name, and b) that you indented the users previous comment - the addition of the colon did make it look like you'd replied to their first message, they'd responded, and then you'd replied again. |
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HTH, <small><span style="border:1px solid;background:#00008B">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background:#00008B;color:white"> Chzz </span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B;background-color:yellow;"> ► </span>]]</span></small> 16:55, 10 March 2011 (UTC) |
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:I agree with everything said. Though it was not my intention, I do see how this could be confusing. It is simply a thing I had not considered. I will always consider it in the future. The easiest solution is to just never do it. I will probably do it the easy way.Thanks for the additional information. '''[[User:My76Strat|<span style="background:red;color:white">My</span><span style="background:red;color:white">76</span>]][[User talk:My76Strat|<span style="background:blue;color:white">Strat</span>]]''' 17:22, 10 March 2011 (UTC) |
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== The debacle == |
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The user tells me they moved the content of their userpage to article space, and their userpage got deleted. Then the user moved the article back to his user page, leaving a redirect in userspace. He states he no longer needs the article. so I tag the redirect for deletion. Within a minute the user copies the content he had just moved back to his userspace into the redirect removing the CSD tag. Then he comments that the article is where he wants it but the history is still in his userspace. I told him what had happened. I eventually ask him to give me a few minutes without editing or moving and I would get it fixed. |
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The only thing I did regarding all the confusing stuff is this: I got the article space page that was missing the history deleted, Moved the content of his userpage, which was the article he had moved there earlier, to the location he wanted it with its history and canceled the userpage redirect left behind. I hope this helps '''[[User:My76Strat|<span style="background:red;color:white">My</span><span style="background:red;color:white">76</span>]][[User talk:My76Strat|<span style="background:blue;color:white">Strat</span>]]''' 09:38, 9 March 2011 (UTC) |
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:Dude, I have just observed so many ''egregious'' errors in the last 10 minutes I almost fell out of my chair. You're a nice guy and good editor, but honestly, what the fuck were you thinking from the point you answered [[User:Jaobar]]'s question to the point when you posted this thread?? God...I don't even know where to start. For starters, and for future reference, ''never'' post irc chat transcripts '''anywhere''' on Wikipedia unless you have the explicit permission of the users you were conversing with. Doing so is a violation of our licensing policies and ''is'' interpreted as a copyright violation; ''any'' content posted to Wikipedia is released under the CC-BY-SA 3.0 License and the GFDL, in which ''you'', '''the <ins>sole author</ins>''' of that text agree to license it so. As far as I can tell, you ''were not'' the <ins>sole</ins> author of the irc chatlog you posted to my talk page. Next time, just email the chatlog. That way, you will not be releasing it under the CC-BY-SA 3.0 and GFDL. Now, for the [[User:Jaobar]] incident. My jaw dropped when I saw that YOU yourself agreed AND moved [[User:Jaobar]] to [[Jonathan A. Obar]]. Simply unbelievable. As far as I can tell, professor Obar does not meet our [[WP:GNG|notability criteria]] (therefore, his page could have been either been [[WP:PROD|PRODed]] or speedily deleted under [[WP:CSD#A7|A7]]). Additionally, the text of the userpage, to my knowledge, fails [[WP:ADS]]/[[WP:NOTPROMOTION]] (point four), [[Wikipedia:Autobiography]], and [[WP:BLP]] (as an unsourced BLP). I understand that the Obar is a newbie member of the fledging campus ambassador program, but that ''does not'' give him the right to flaunt our policies and do whatever he desires. The professor came to you asking you if it was acceptable to create an article on himself and from what I can see, ''you said yes''. What you should have done, was gently guide Obar in the right direction, and explain to him why he should not create an article on himself, or move his userpage into the mainspace to do so. You know the rules that govern this site, so ''why'' did you knowingly violate them?? Or do you not know those rules? Were you thinking this through at all? What amazes me the most is that you had the incredible audacity to revert my move within minutes ''without bothering to ask me why I had moved the page in the first place''! In case you didn't know, this is called ''move-warring'', and is analogous to [[WP:3RR|edit-warring]]. Additionally, I must note that you have difficulty conveying your thoughts, or unable to function under pressure. All I can say is that Wikipedia is not a race, and that there is something called the preview button. As an [[WP:ADMIN|administrator]], we deal with pressure like this on a daily basis, and if you start fucking up when you're under scrutiny as slight as this, then adminship is not for you. And with that, I have [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/My76Strat&diff=prev&oldid=417927200 struck] my support at your RfA. I hate to do that but, what I can I say? I have lost ''all'' confidence in you. Consider yourself lucky I didn't start an ANI thread on your behavior. I appreciate you taking the time to explain, but I'm afraid it won't help here. Sorry mate. All the best, '''[[User:Fastily|<span style='font-family: "Trebuchet MS"; color:#4B0082'><big>F</big><small>ASTILY</small></span>]]''' <sup><small>[[User talk:Fastily|<span style = 'color:#4B0082'>(TALK)</span>]]</small></sup> 10:09, 9 March 2011 (UTC) |
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::<small>Before it was [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AFastily&action=historysubmit&diff=417931708&oldid=417929698 changed], [[User:My76Strat]]'s original post: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fastily&oldid=417922615#Response]. -'''[[User:Fastily|<span style='font-family: "Trebuchet MS"; color:#4B0082'><big>F</big><small>ASTILY</small></span>]]''' <sup><small>[[User talk:Fastily|<span style = 'color:#4B0082'>(TALK)</span>]]</small></sup> 10:11, 9 March 2011 (UTC)</small> |
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:I am glad to see this. I can address some of your concerns directly. Mostly it would not matter. You are right about most of what you have pointed out. However this test came about I did fail. But I do not think it's productive, deliberately or not to require someone, in failing, to also take credit for mistakes they did not make. The timing of your post here is impeccable. I actually came here with intentions to send you some small message. At least to extend the olive branch that acknowledges we can work together and move forward. Everything else about this post can only serve the deeper understanding, and then if there is no necessity there may be no motive. But if you are at least curious enough, some of those questions could be answered. '''[[User:My76Strat|<span style="background:red;color:white">My</span><span style="background:red;color:white">76</span>]][[User talk:My76Strat|<span style="background:blue;color:white">Strat</span>]]''' 07:31, 10 March 2011 (UTC) |
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::Had a closer look, and it seems there was no move waring. Nonetheless, that does not, and will and justify [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Jaobar&diff=prev&oldid=417895817 this]. Good day. -'''[[User:Fastily|<span style='font-family: "Trebuchet MS"; color:#4B0082'><big>F</big><small>ASTILY</small></span>]]''' <sup><small>[[User talk:Fastily|<span style = 'color:#4B0082'>(TALK)</span>]]</small></sup> 10:09, 10 March 2011 (UTC) |
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:::I certainly disagree. And now that you have admitted an error on your part, thus removing the shroud of hallowed sanctification, it becomes that much more likely that my interpretation could emerge as correct. While it is not your fault that prior to my RfA I held an unrealistically high opinion of you, it is exactly a consequence of our interaction, primarily the conduct of your actions, that I now hold your opinion on par with my own (in some cases below). I am not going to clutter your talkpage with a bunch of unsolicited commentary, but I have copied all of the relevant text to a section of my own talkpage where I intend to parse the entire content for validity (at my leisure). Your last post is rot with fallacy, even while being concise. I hold with contempt, any person of the class who invoke a response, having no authentic desire to evaluate any subsequent, perhaps obligatory, reply. Simply by choosing (assuming you chose your words carefully, and for effect) the word "justify", You are invoking a response. Assuming you meant "and will not justify" where you posted "and will and justify" (a reasonable assumption to me), implies you are already predisposed to the only view you are willing to entertain. The day you invoked unto me the acronym ASAP, regardless of your intention, you set me to a task which was to be accomplished according to your time-line, irrespective of my own. And then your voice is heard in the unholy choir singing repugnant praise to the observable consequence. Bravo to you sir, it was rather effective. The character flaw you did document, while used to reflect on my skills in decision management, time management, and prioritization, is more accurately attributed to an unwarranted level of respect I had for you. In spite of everything that has transpired, you did not relegate yourself from esteem, unto the masses, until you appended these utter-able words: "Consider yourself lucky I didn't start an ANI thread on your behavior" Idle threats are perhaps the lowest form of arrogance, and the point where I diverge. The last remaining vestige of regard I am willing to hold on your behalf, and the reason I did post this message, is the assumption that you are sufficiently mature as to not incline prejudicial against me for having appended this candor. If I am again wrong, and even this is higher regard that you warrant, so be it, it would be the last positive assumption anyway. But if I am right, I will see you appending support at my next RfA. I say that because I intend to eradicate any valid opposition, by correcting my own shortfalls. Nothing in this comment is meant to imply I am blameless in the debacle of my current ire. I simply prefer focusing on the areas where I did make mistakes, while forgoing the drama associated with false and defamatory, accusations, and characterizations. Your conduct included these, and sentiments remain. And a good day to you as well. '''[[User:My76Strat|<span style="background:red;color:white">My</span><span style="background:red;color:white">76</span>]][[User talk:My76Strat|<span style="background:blue;color:white">Strat</span>]]''' 15:08, 10 March 2011 (UTC) |
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:Oi, what do you think you're doing with [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AMy76Strat&action=historysubmit&diff=418137529&oldid=418124027 this]?? I <ins>did not</ins> have this particular exchange with you [[User talk:My76Strat#The debacle|on this page]]. Please do not make copies of my posts without indicating that they are copies. -'''[[User:Fastily|<span style='font-family: "Trebuchet MS"; color:#4B0082'><big>F</big><small>ASTILY</small></span>]]''' <sup><small>[[User talk:Fastily|<span style = 'color:#4B0082'>(TALK)</span>]]</small></sup> 04:53, 12 March 2011 (UTC) |
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::I dare say Fastily was not himself when leaving the comments with that tone. I understand being heated and angry but it's still a disappointing show of incivility. ''[[User:Swarm|<span style='color:black'><font face="Old English Text MT">Swarm</font></span>]]'' <sup>[[User talk:Swarm|<span style="color:blue;"><font face="old english text mt">X</font></span>]]</sup> 22:36, 13 March 2011 (UTC) |
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:::And how exactly is that particular post uncivil? -'''[[User:Fastily|<span style='font-family: "Trebuchet MS"; color:#4B0082'><big>F</big><small>ASTILY</small></span>]]''' <sup><small>[[User talk:Fastily|<span style = 'color:#4B0082'>(TALK)</span>]]</small></sup> 02:01, 14 March 2011 (UTC) |
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::::Again I am confused for mental stress and wear, and will return after a short break, If there is something that must be done please consider [[WP:BOLD]]. It would take too long to describe what exactly I intended. My best summary attempt in RfA was; "to parse the text (at my leisure)...", but yeah the leisure part, I think Swarm may have seen an authoritative tone that could have been disruptive. I am now beginning to think it is simply part of your nature, (not bad) or mannerism? No I would not care too much, the read is short, so there's a balance. But yes you come across like the 1st sergeant. in most of your exchanges really. When I publish my findings, some time after I find my findings, there will be a nemesis, I was thinking "FastQuip", Now I am pretty sure "SGT FastQuip" would better fit the story. You have mastered delivering strong sentiment with the least of words. Here's the thing, I don't think I want to write that sterile. But thanks [[User:My76Strat|My76Strat]] ([[User talk:My76Strat#top|talk]]) 02:42, 14 March 2011 (UTC) |
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:::::I did mean to ask If you would remove some ambiguity within this context "what the fuck were you thinking from the point you answered User:Jaobar's question to the point when you posted this thread?? God...I don't even know where to start" If somewhere I posted a conversation that included "God...I don't even know where to start" could you please show this post? Because I am at a loss. [[User:My76Strat|My76Strat]] ([[User talk:My76Strat#top|talk]]) 03:02, 14 March 2011 (UTC) |
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::::::He wasn't suggesting that you said that. He was saying that was his view. --[[User:Demiurge1000|Demiurge1000]] ([[User_talk:Demiurge1000|talk]]) 03:26, 14 March 2011 (UTC) |
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:::::::He is asking me about a thread I no exactly which one, but yes it should be cleared up. I have for a short time wondered if I had posted such "Oh God hear my pleas" kinda stuff, and people had mentioned some bazaar writing analogies throughout. So thanks a lot. [[User:My76Strat|My76Strat]] ([[User talk:My76Strat#top|talk]]) 03:50, 14 March 2011 (UTC) |
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I simply feel comments such as: |
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*'what the fuck were you thinking' |
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*'My jaw dropped when I saw that YOU yourself agreed AND moved [[User:Jaobar]] to [[Jonathan A. Obar]]. Simply unbelievable.' |
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*'''why'' did you knowingly violate them?? Or do you not know those rules? Were you thinking this through at all?' |
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*'you have difficulty conveying your thoughts, or unable to function under pressure' |
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*'if you start fucking up when you're under scrutiny as slight as this, then adminship is not for you' |
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Just comments of that nature are unnecessarily hostile in tone, accusatory, bad faith-assuming and completely unnecessary. Sure, we all get overly heated sometimes, but I can't imagine 76Strat is in the happiest of places right now due to their RfA, and comments like that just aren't good. In a nutshell, you could be a little nicer. The empty "consider yourself lucky" threat of an ANI thread was especially inappropriate. ''Really?'' If there's something actionable with regards to their actions, take it to ANI or don't, but making threats like that is ''most'' unbecoming. ''[[User:Swarm|<span style='color:black'><font face="Old English Text MT">Swarm</font></span>]]'' <sup>[[User talk:Swarm|<span style="color:blue;"><font face="old english text mt">X</font></span>]]</sup> 04:19, 14 March 2011 (UTC) |
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== Young man.... == |
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I'm afraid I'm old enough that everyone under 40 is starting to seem young :) I hope you didn't take it as offensive that you come across as a young man, full of beans and making the mistakes of eager youth, rather than appearing a curmudgeonly old fogey :) You've been very polite to every oppose - I'm sure the next time you run, with a little more attention to CSD and how to deal with usernames, you'll pass with flying colours. If you'll take one recommendation - I've seen several RfA's sunk by the candidate's supporters harassing every oppose, and your chum Pedro isn't doing you any favours at the moment (if indeed he's doing it on your behalf, and not just on his own).--[[User:Elen of the Roads|Elen of the Roads]] ([[User talk:Elen of the Roads|talk]]) 22:49, 10 March 2011 (UTC) |
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:I do not know what the reference to Pedro implies, If something is going on currently I will soon have a look. No sir I am autonomous. There are no other connections. I am moments away from saving an edit which I hope you will look at. It will completely change the way at least one CSD tag looks. Not that I expect that to change anything, overall I was unprepared and the CSD issue was too large a concern. But yes, I hope to see you at the next one and appreciate your having participated in this one. Thanks for messaging me and feel free to repeat it any time in the future. '''[[User:My76Strat|<span style="background:red;color:white">My</span><span style="background:red;color:white">76</span>]][[User talk:My76Strat|<span style="background:blue;color:white">Strat</span>]]''' 23:09, 10 March 2011 (UTC) |
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::I shall look, and I hope - with as you say some better preparation - to see you passing successfully at RfA in a few months time.--[[User:Elen of the Roads|Elen of the Roads]] ([[User talk:Elen of the Roads|talk]]) 23:16, 10 March 2011 (UTC) |
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== My vote == |
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Hi My76Strat. Just thought I'd let you know here (rather than there) that I won't be changing my !vote, but I do hope you make another request in the future. Try to remember that the who process is similar to a week long interview, where everything you do and much of what you've done is held up to harsh scrutiny. What matters to me is how you carry yourself through it (unless you've made some unacceptable errors) and I hope you can see that from my point of view you didn't handle yourself as well as I think you could. I'm sure you can learn from this and given the fact that you are a net positive to the project I'm sure you will. Good luck for the future. [[User Talk:Worm That Turned|<span style="text-shadow:gray 3px 3px 2px;"><font color="#000">'''''Worm'''''</font></span>]][[User:Worm That Turned|<span style="text-shadow:gray 3px 3px 2px;"><font color="#000"><sup>TT</sup></font></span>]] 13:09, 11 March 2011 (UTC) |
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:I appreciate your encouragement and your advice. Some have asked why not throw in the towel? Imagine that if I had, I may never have seen this post. I will be a better person overall for having went through this process. And there are more things which can be gleaned. Best regards '''[[User:My76Strat|<span style="background:red;color:white">My</span><span style="background:red;color:white">76</span>]][[User talk:My76Strat|<span style="background:blue;color:white">Strat</span>]]''' 13:23, 11 March 2011 (UTC) |
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== A thought == |
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I know you said you wanted your full seven days, but I can't see anything much coming from it now. I think you've got all the useful feedback you can get in an RfA and it's only going to go downhill from here. My advice would be to withdraw now and stand again in the summer or autumn, once you've got a bit more experience and a proven track record of not being so quick on the trigger finger. I'll be glad to nominate you next time{{mdash}}having a good nomination statement from another editor can make things a bit easier. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<font color="Teal" face="Tahoma">'''HJ Mitchell'''</font>]] | [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<font color="Navy" face= "Times New Roman">Penny for your thoughts? </font>]] 16:43, 11 March 2011 (UTC) |
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:I would want to see it to the end, unless there are more important considerations than what I know. If for example, I am embarrassing the process by continuing. That said, if you think I should for my own sake, I say that is not enough reason, If it would benefit the others involved, I will do it because of them. I don't deserve the benefit of regard to be honest. To be fired is an appropriate reward for my worth. I am not punishing myself with continuance, and I don't deserve any privilege. That's about how I see it right now. Highest regards. '''[[User:My76Strat|<span style="background:red;color:white">My</span><span style="background:red;color:white">76</span>]][[User talk:My76Strat|<span style="background:blue;color:white">Strat</span>]]''' 17:56, 11 March 2011 (UTC) |
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::Nobody's firing you from Wikipedia. They're just saying there are a few things they'd like to see you do differently before they grant you additional tools. I have to agree with HJ Mitchell, you have likely received all the useful feedback you are going to get from this RfA; it might be wise to withdraw while you still have more people supporting than opposing. [[User:28bytes|28bytes]] ([[User talk:28bytes|talk]]) 19:21, 11 March 2011 (UTC) |
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:::I understand that. But thanks for pointing out how it sounds. It's more of a metaphor to imply, closing it without my request, I am just glad the community treated me pretty so well. The reason I seem like a chicken minus it's head, is because I suppose I am under some form of stress I have never imagined. I am spiking right now because each time I refresh a page of save an edit I think it may have closed. [[User:My76Strat|My76Strat]] ([[User talk:My76Strat#top|talk]]) 19:40, 11 March 2011 (UTC) |
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::::That's fair enough. If you want your full week, you can have it. I've !voted in hundreds of RfAs, so believe me when I say you're not likely to get much more constructive criticism. Most people will probably stay away, since the result is unfortunately a foregone conclusion, so the only people you'll attract now are people looking to boost their edit count or those with strong opinions. If you still want to leave it open, then just put a note at the top of the page saying that you would prefer it if it wasn't closed early. It couldn't hurt to add that you're seeking constructive criticism. Oh, and you don't have to call me sir{{mdash}}Harry or HJ is fine. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<font color="Teal" face="Tahoma">'''HJ Mitchell'''</font>]] | [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<font color="Navy" face= "Times New Roman">Penny for your thoughts? </font>]] 20:02, 11 March 2011 (UTC) |
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:::::Sir I agree with everything you say. I just don't want to cause problems. If running it isn't misconstrued for drama or the likes, I would just as soon appreciate leaving it as is against the normal stop [[User:My76Strat|My76Strat]] ([[User talk:My76Strat#top|talk]]) 20:23, 11 March 2011 (UTC) |
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The purpose of an RFA is to determine if there's a community consensus to confer the tools. Once that consensus or lack thereof is clear, pointlessly leaving the RFA open indicates you don't respect consensus, which will reflect badly on you when you file your next RFA. If you're looking for more advice on how to improve, I suggest that you request an [[WP:ER|editor review]]. [[User:Townlake|Townlake]] ([[User talk:Townlake|talk]]) 22:11, 11 March 2011 (UTC) <small>(Edit to clarify that of course if there's consensus to confer the tools, obviously the RFA still stays open seven days per WP protocol... no way around that.)</small> |
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#Yes sir, you make a valid argument, if that were the net effect. And I could easily show you a model that could produce a change of consensus. Regardless my remaining objectives are attainable, and I will pay the price of a bad reflection for it. Your decision that it is pointless, is based on a different criteria. Mine says otherwise, and I do need to get back to it, But I said for the dignity of the participants, I would. But this should be clear humiliation. Anyway thanks for sharing the information. [[User:My76Strat|My76Strat]] ([[User talk:My76Strat#top|talk]]) 00:14, 12 March 2011 (UTC) |
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== Why did you remove my post? == |
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Would you care to explain [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ARequests_for_adminship%2FMy76Strat&action=historysubmit&diff=418402507&oldid=418393476 this]? -'''[[User:Fastily|<span style='font-family: "Trebuchet MS"; color:#4B0082'><big>F</big><small>ASTILY</small></span>]]''' <sup><small>[[User talk:Fastily|<span style = 'color:#4B0082'>(TALK)</span>]]</small></sup> 07:42, 12 March 2011 (UTC) |
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== Careful == |
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[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ARequests_for_adminship%2FMy76Strat&action=historysubmit&diff=418651883&oldid=418642634 Careful]. Regardless of what others say, it's not cool to respond like this. -'''[[User:Fastily|<span style='font-family: "Trebuchet MS"; color:#4B0082'><big>F</big><small>ASTILY</small></span>]]''' <sup><small>[[User talk:Fastily|<span style = 'color:#4B0082'>(TALK)</span>]]</small></sup> 23:53, 13 March 2011 (UTC) |
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:It is unproductive fruit for sure, but for the sum total I got way more productive fruit! [[User:My76Strat|My76Strat]] ([[User talk:My76Strat#top|talk]]) 01:15, 14 March 2011 (UTC) |
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::Um. Excuse me? -'''[[User:Fastily|<span style='font-family: "Trebuchet MS"; color:#4B0082'><big>F</big><small>ASTILY</small></span>]]''' <sup><small>[[User talk:Fastily|<span style = 'color:#4B0082'>(TALK)</span>]]</small></sup> 01:48, 14 March 2011 (UTC) |
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== Your RfA (again) == |
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I'm pretty sure [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/My76Strat&diff=418835878&oldid=418832271 you just accused me] of trying to "ensnare" you by asking you a question at your RfA. |
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I'll just say that after trying to ''help'' you in multiple ways on your RfA (I'll be happy to list them if you've forgotten already), seeing that bad faith accusation from you was ''very'' disappointing. [[User:28bytes|28bytes]] ([[User talk:28bytes|talk]]) 21:18, 14 March 2011 (UTC) |
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:I am maintaining every assumption of good faith I can muster to not accuse it as your intention. It is the effect. There is no correct answer, and an opinion can not form comparing only the overt implications of the text. And other wise what is the correct answer. Should I say no you should never respond in kind. Then I am a liar because that is what I did. Oh wait, you and anyone else who sees can not see the in kind relation. So again, the only answer is I am wrong again. At this point I'd be happy to see the answer posted in plain text. And I stated in the original part of my answer that I disagreed with your decision to post it. My position is openly displayed for consideration. I think you are missing many relevent facts, and that is the effect of the snare. If you had shown all the communications prior: |
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'what the fuck were you thinking' |
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*'My jaw dropped when I saw that YOU yourself agreed AND moved [[User:Jaobar]] to [[Jonathan A. Obar]]. Simply unbelievable.' |
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*'''why'' did you knowingly violate them?? Or do you not know those rules? Were you thinking this through at all?' |
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*'you have difficulty conveying your thoughts, or unable to function under pressure' |
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*'if you start fucking up when you're under scrutiny as slight as this, then adminship is not for you' |
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*'Consider yourself lucky I didn't start an ANI thread on your behavior' |
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leading to the final straw, which you did show. I would have felt the question was framed rather differently. So yes you did. It is only a matter of purpose I cant presume. And then to consider that after every thing had been destroyed, while overlooking all of the interim communications where I did maintain tactful restraint. coupled with my pleas in and out of RfA to please have a look, and the dismissal of each request. To be fully derailed and besmirched in public view. (called public humiliation by on observer) To then receive, three days later the message which you did choose to show. Only by considering these can you possible know how offended I was by that cheep dismissal, The utter contempt at reducing it to "i finally had a chance to look". Oh yeah don't even say anything uplifting or vindicating like you were right or I am sorry. nothing, acknowledge it in the affirmative "there was no move war". Really. and that's it. Wow. I think your question is so out of context I feel further harmed from having to defend from the single perspective of prose. You better believe I felt like it was a trap. [[User:My76Strat|My76Strat]] ([[User talk:My76Strat#top|talk]]) 23:26, 14 March 2011 (UTC) |
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:{{nono|1=I'll be blunt. When I saw that unhinged rant of yours towards Fastily, my first inclination was to switch to "strong oppose." If you can't restrain yourself from telling other editors you hold them "in contempt" ''during your own RfA'', then why would I expect you to restrain yourself if given the mop? But instead of jumping to the oppose column without giving you a chance to clarify or explain your comments, I thought I would ask to see if you saw a problem with what you wrote. And apparently you don't. You seem to think that as long as someone is insulting to you first, it's perfectly fine to escalate things with more insults. [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/My76Strat&diff=418854578&oldid=418852089 This charming exchange with Swatjester] seems to confirm this. You are not just shooting yourself in the foot here, you are using a machine gun to do it.}} I'm removing my original comment here, and am replacing it with a simple note to wish you well, and to encourage you to keep editing in spite of the horrible ordeal this RfA has no doubt been for you. I assure you it was not my intent to trap you with my question, but I understand why you might think otherwise, and I regret that it appeared that way. You've had a lot of criticism and abuse hurled your way, and I wish that hadn't been the case. You've done good work here, and I hope you will not take this RfA too hard, even though I understand that's a lot easier said than done. Best, [[User:28bytes|28bytes]] ([[User talk:28bytes|talk]]) 01:49, 15 March 2011 (UTC) |
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Thanks for you note. It is helpful. I would like to have an honest answer to why I was expected to not at some point escalate my own defense. So in fact yes I had a wiki break down, the door is open to be called a joke. I know what the most correct answer is, but I to found of truth. The hardest wiki policy to ever reconcile for me was [[WP:TRUTH]]. But I think I did deal with max stress. and now there Q5 on displayed as a question, I can't answer in 1000 words. being criticized for apparently not knowing much, but in truth I am one of few who know. And the new latest is why I posted the stuff there in the first place. I haven't directly addressed that either but I know the players better now. And when you look at those ? marks and the ?? marks. and you see me attempt to provide answer. Then you will know what I mean that I hold with contempt that I did put forth effort and my research not even looked at. Consider my longer posts being more important more information almost size = relevance. But RfA implies Everything small. I'm sorry if you ask what was you thinking as part of your question I am including my very thoughts at the time. I challenge anyone to show examples. I can pull lots of concise examples. But don't include something like what was you thinking and the get pissed at the answer. And the question you have under your pose. the longest one I made. because at first glance, and at my lowest point of worth I see something that questions me knowledge to a brand new user. It's long and important an no one has time. fine, Even you answer falls far short of acknowledging much. I cant believe you would say I didn't check those references. I highlighted each example where I did. I would put my RfA to a question like that. I'll show you what could happen if I had wiki break down, look at Q5 that is Strat a broken man, and look at what he did. I will accept that. And when a mistake is known advice on moving forward. A better way to have handled it. I if the right answer is , "It looks like maybe you were right" Or no one cares, '''or''' I care and that makes it enough. The archive will have a record. I better make sure it has my story in it. But I will one day like to know what someone says when the actually do have the information. Just because these issues live at the edge of your sanity. and then the rambling yah I should have made you wait. But I did post this bad writing, It has information. take it or leave it. I'll cross the ts later. |
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*Please allow me to renew my recommendation to withdraw the RfA. Nothing good can possibly come from you continuing. If you don't withdraw it, at the very least leave the opposers alone. Every comment in you make in the oppose section deals more damage to your chances of ever passing an RfA and the bitter aftertaste with which you're leaving some of the opposers will be the only thing they remember in any future interactions you might have with them. The wisest thing you can do right now is withdraw it and end the drama, if not for your own sake, then for the sake of the community which administrator hopefuls should aspire to serve. That would also show humility and maturity, which would stand you in good stead in a future RfA. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<font color="Teal" face="Tahoma">'''HJ Mitchell'''</font>]] | [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<font color="Navy" face= "Times New Roman">Penny for your thoughts? </font>]] 01:19, 15 March 2011 (UTC) |
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::Thank you for that advice, Yes I did have to walk away for a few, I will accept the latter advice and leave them alone [[User:My76Strat|My76Strat]] ([[User talk:My76Strat#top|talk]]) 02:16, 15 March 2011 (UTC) |
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:::Fair enough. It might be worth putting a note at the top of the page acknowledging that the request isn't going to succeed, but asking or constructive criticism. That might reduce the number of people piling on with vague rationales as if the numbers really mattered. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<font color="Teal" face="Tahoma">'''HJ Mitchell'''</font>]] | [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<font color="Navy" face= "Times New Roman">Penny for your thoughts? </font>]] 02:25, 15 March 2011 (UTC) |
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::::That is a good idea And I will get to that.[[User:My76Strat|My76Strat]] ([[User talk:My76Strat#top|talk]]) 03:12, 15 March 2011 (UTC) |
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:::::I took the liberty of doing it myself. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<font color="Teal" face="Tahoma">'''HJ Mitchell'''</font>]] | [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<font color="Navy" face= "Times New Roman">Penny for your thoughts? </font>]] 03:49, 15 March 2011 (UTC) |
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::::::Thanks and I appreciate everything you have done to assist me. All the others too. I would hope some of this assessment includes what if any retaliation I should expect or triple redundant scrutiny smothering everything I should try. Even you Sir, I must have lost something? May be not, but yeah, I am at that point. And at the same time you so quickly and nicely got your message up, I soon after put up the longer version. So its up. Now I would just set the challenge to the community to show me their better side, and the good fruit that should produce.so again thanks.[[User:My76Strat|My76Strat]] ([[User talk:My76Strat#top|talk]]) 04:12, 15 March 2011 (UTC) |
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:::::::I think you've made things more difficult for yourself than you needed to, and I think you would be feeling a little less miserable right now if you'd withdrawn it when I first suggested, but to keep going through all that, you'd either have to very courageous or just masochistic. |
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:::::::I'll give you the best piece of advice you could ever receive on Wikipedia: go write an article. Simple. Not only is it really enjoyable, but it gives you a sense of accomplishment, you get a bit of Main Page space for a few hours if you can write something longer than 1500 characters ''and'' it will get you respect. You're a US Army vet, right? [http://www.isaf.nato.int/about-isaf/leadership/command-sergeant-major-marvin-l.-hill.html This bloke] must be notable, but he doesn't have an article. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<font color="Teal" face="Tahoma">'''HJ Mitchell'''</font>]] | [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<font color="Navy" face= "Times New Roman">Penny for your thoughts? </font>]] 04:28, 15 March 2011 (UTC) |
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:::::::That is good. Bordering on great. But that does seem more for stress avoidance. I sure would benefit to know suggestions for where avoidance failed and it is in four face, What to you do? But Yea writing something positive. because all along here I have been writing but mostly sad defensive stuff and yes it brings you down. No I needed to go the whole way through, For the whole effect. I'll be better for it I promise you that.[[User:My76Strat|My76Strat]] ([[User talk:My76Strat#top|talk]]) 04:52, 15 March 2011 (UTC) |
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Thumbs up for changing your signature to a less importunate version. One more thought you might want to consider: <small>(and apologies in advance if I appear to be patronising)</small> At RfA, the community wants do discuss your suitability for adminship, but it does not necessarily want to discuss that ''with you''. Your input is already there when you start the RfA. While it is certainly not easy to just take up a seat in the peanut gallery and watch the proceedings, this is often the way to go at RfA, as it gives the impression that you are not easily annoyed--a very important characteristic of any admin hopeful. Cheers, [[User:Pgallert|Pgallert]] ([[User talk:Pgallert|talk]]) 10:49, 15 March 2011 (UTC) |
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== Marking articles students are working on == |
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== RfA == |
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It was with full intentions, that I prepared the text below to be appended as the last entry just under where Sonia had started a thread. It would have served that position well. It still serves to show the solemn intent. A peek at some closing emotion: [[User:My76Strat|My76Strat]] ([[User talk:My76Strat#top|talk]]) 05:17, 16 March 2011 (UTC) |
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Therefor, with '''respect to Sonia, and her kind'''. If the '''only''' thing garnered from my words is a sense of respect. I will have achieved a major endeavor. All of the other things were secondary, to this audience. And from the secondary audience came the foe I have always known. But I have not known an attack as stringent, nor a restoration as complete, as to have learned an indescribable thing. To one simple question raised by this statement "I can't see anything much coming from it now" to my expectation of things to come, I must assure you that in this one disagreement, I was correct, This does require good faith assumptions. Because some are absent this ability, should I forgo my own faith? |
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I thought I have given my best answer. I am proud at whatever might glean from inspection. And then there is Wikipedia; Since my inception, I have fought against projecting an image of my POV. A hint and demonstrated manner can glean from a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Flying_Spaghetti_Monster/Archive_8#NPOV talkpage discussion]. Their I stated an effective manner of demonstrating neutrality would be achieved if the reader was unable to determine the derivation of the writers own faith. I have done well until now to not identify myself as a man of God through my writings. By wiki standards I believe I did conceal that derivation which you can measure against my writings. If there is any resemblance to sermon in manners of this RfA, It is because I can not conduct forward while trying to conceal this fact. |
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If someone had said my writings were progressing in this manner, that person would have been the most astute among you. And if you were of such an impression, why withhold this? Could I have lost my own former power? |
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The machinations of my foe were in many form. the final under guise, being the lawyer. Who came in the midst at a time when everything prior had happened. with purpose to cause that I append "The question really became, whether or not I would accept character assassination as well". In the broadest extent possible I take that character to mean the like minded group which was forming and the stakes were larger than SYSOP. To be likened to a "joke", by an opponent who had introduced himself with twist of tongue, had sufficient sting. To condone such indignation as the rhetoric implied, without clear rebuke, was not even an option! I had no ability expect type the response given me. That it came packed in a small package with prose and design officially begged for by most, who have inspected my writings by appearance. |
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It should be clear at least that I can accomplish such a thing. The better me would have rebuked using longer prose. This would only have reduced the impact against me, and continued forward under guise. And it was nearing time to write other things. It is not my intention to deliver a sermon, or even a speech. To remove faithful derivation from the appearance became impossible and time for editing is ahead. because of constraints like time. I will again, at whatever risk, append these words as the were received to this page. Letting the future impart their fuller meaning. I can not adopt the sorrowful concerns that some impart my way. That the entire error belongs unto me. |
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But I can tell you the pain of such sorrow is not in an embarrassment that you believe, I should endure, But that there exist so many who can read these and see nothing. I have take much advice on, this one I leave. If you get nothing from these words. you should be concerned! Not for intellect, or ability, but for the seeing and the inability to see. For these do reflect upon your condition. For the one who can read, with effort or ease, and garner a thing, you should stand erect, as if on watch for a thief in the night. Comforted by the knowledge that you would see the advance, And the other things! which are to come. |
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I have imagined cry's, and gnashing of teeth.(as told) When self proclaimed good people will demand, they did not know! And the effect of twisting their own tongue, against the one eternal truth, whom they speak. And I wonder do they believe, he might believe? Or is it a last effort to deceive because the practice is so ingrained. I can describe in small measure, using the images of my creation. I have had a sense of such deception, served at a comparative time, And the indignation perpetuated by the simplest inference, because it was a perversion of truth, and the time for such a perversion to have ceased, was upon; There is no requirement to extend favor under such circumstances. And yes it's a full blown spiritual incident. The roots extend to an earlier time, and grow through this period, into the next. (the unknown) |
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Indeed Scientific observation will have additional attribution using scientific models, and the likes, reaching, a consequence of RfA stress, culminated in this what might be the final babel by my hand. The last effort to say, a thing which to its end. "I am not ashamed of a thing". |
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I do not ask that you adopt my position, I am confident a fair inspection can not produce a contradiction to the simplest truth. I had intended to seek acceptance with truth as my strength and sword. But the acceptance, I became required to align, was acceptance of who I am, and recognition from where I came. To acknowledge, to myself and any witness, where I hope to be going. And within the words manifest, I find "Answer given"! |
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There is more, and it is to come, perhaps by another vessel; I do not know these things. Being limited by time, I cannot perfect things, even to within my abilities. I do wish to highlight the notion of "carefully chosen words". An inspection with notes inline was originally my intention, to show the depth of thought given a thing written. But the words became words I understand, but the flow and design is credited to more than I could achieve alone. So when I see them in there form, I'll better understand their significance. My inclination to publish these few words, is not itself a product of inspection, but faith. If I am the only one, That is fine! I'll call mine "The Sermon on the Lap". [[User:My76Strat|My76Strat]] ([[User talk:My76Strat|talk]]) 00:08, 16 March 2011 (UTC) |
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===Boing! said Zebedee=== |
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Hi, I see that your RfA is in the process of closing, and I just want to say a quick word before I go off to bed. I can see it got pretty stressful, and I think some people did get a bit too hard on you towards the end - RfA can be a harrowing experience. What I want to do is express my great respect to you for giving it a go, for wanting to extend the ways in which you can help the community, and for sticking with it to the end - you have my admiration for all of that. I hope you're not too downcast by the way it turned out, and I wish you every success for the future - I really hope I can support you in an RfA some day. Best wishes -- [[User:Boing! said Zebedee|Boing! said Zebedee]] ([[User talk:Boing! said Zebedee|talk]]) 21:47, 15 March 2011 (UTC) |
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:I appreciate seeing these kind words. I did have a final piece to append, but came against an expired deadline. It is a small regret that I didn't release it in a moment when I could have. For then the record would exist showing an intention in less refined manner. But for seeking to include it, after scrutiny, The record has a hollow spot where it should properly sit. And these were to be a salute to the ones of like mind of your self. It's absence glares as an omission, to me. And it may have provided some answer. I will from here, always, remember the things related to it. And can not be sorry for having done this thing. Nor for having difficulty at expressing these, even with the limited tools at hand. Because I know the full measure of the things I had been shown, And I couldn't share them all anyway. But if I could, yours would be the receiving end. [[User:My76Strat|My76Strat]] ([[User talk:My76Strat#top|talk]]) 00:54, 16 March 2011 (UTC) |
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===Pedro=== |
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Sorry My76Strat. That was a blooding and a half. <small><span style="border:1px solid #0000ff;padding:1px;">[[User:Pedro|<b>Pedro</b>]] : [[User_talk:Pedro|<font style="color:#accC10;background:#0000fa;"> Chat </font>]] </span></small> 22:02, 15 March 2011 (UTC) |
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:Pedro it is not possible to tell you the things I wish I could say. In the simplest form you have served Gods purpose, To the extent you knew this to be true, I do not know. But at least possible consequence, you were guided to served a greater purpose, as vessel. Even from such a privileged position, as vessel, you have shown favor to God, and he choose that you would act under his hand, to minister my needs, in an otherwise dark hour. When you reflect on the status of your house, I wish for you to find all things in order. I would not wish for a brother, to refrain maintenance, or put hold on repair. The invitations are going out, and all are welcome, but one brother will always be call "especially fond". And I will look to call his name "Pedro". Therefor with respect to limitations, and folly, I will forgo attempt at describing the indescribable, and instead send the entire lot by extending you these: "May Gods mercy and grace be forever upon you" [[User:My76Strat|My76Strat]] ([[User talk:My76Strat#top|talk]]) 01:32, 16 March 2011 (UTC) |
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===Swarm=== |
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Hey Strat. That was absolutely brutal. I've never gone through an RfA, but I'm fully aware how ridiculously harsh it can get, and how devastating such RfAs can be. For what it's worth, you have my sympathy. If you dwell on the opposers, focus only on those who offered valid reasons or good advice. Don't even give those who were uncivil or personally attacked you a second thought. Better yet, think of the many editors who supported you throughout. You're a great editor, and I really hope you continue your excellent work here. If you ever need anything, you know where to find me. See you around. ''[[User:Swarm|<span style='color:black'><font face="Old English Text MT">Swarm</font></span>]]'' <sup>[[User talk:Swarm|<span style="color:blue;"><font face="old english text mt">X</font></span>]]</sup> 02:31, 16 March 2011 (UTC) |
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:It is great also to see this message. You are continuing to provide timely answer at tremendous effect. In total having gone through, I intend to be active in the program to the Nth degree I am able. Mine is an advocate for positive change. And because some decided to twist their tongue against me, and ad slander against my words. They are literally guaranteed to see forms of my prose again. I did serve as a life changing event. The very excited editor with a wide range of interests that came in did not emerge in kind on the other side. I wouldn't change a thing about it, for it will take years to sort the gain. More than I have time to be honest. You rest prominently within my prized gains as a super colleague to have known. I gladly appreciate your invitation to continue exchanges, consider your self fully welcome on mine to the extent if I could, so can you, and that is just in case someone asks. Otherwise yes I love a little message from time to time, the only danger from talking to me, is your likely to get a little more than you asked for. But that is not universally true. My shortest wiki communication, and the ones who say I can't be curt, should have seen, As in the response to a, medium length request, with multiple tasking. My response: '''Yes'''. (There's a lot packed in that and then to show subsequent completion). Any way it is information over load. so I better close until next time. [[User:My76Strat|My76Strat]] ([[User talk:My76Strat#top|talk]]) 03:22, 16 March 2011 (UTC) |
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===Gabriele449=== |
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:I am very sorry about your unsuccessful RFA nomination. Better luck next time.--[[User:Gabriele449|<font color="red">'''Gabesta449'''</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Gabriele449|<font color="blue"><sup>edits</sup></font>]] <sup>♦</sup> [[User talk:Gabriele449|<font color="gold"><sup>chat</sup></font>]] 22:55, 15 March 2011 (UTC) |
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::Thank you for that, without knowing the extent of your sorrow, I can best imagine it as a smaller representation of my own. As I carry the collective sorrow of each inclined, then add my own complete measure, your imagination is free to consider how they might compare. I believe you would miss the measure! [[User:My76Strat|My76Strat]] ([[User talk:My76Strat#top|talk]]) 00:31, 16 March 2011 (UTC) |
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== Your RFA == |
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I am sorry to inform you that I have closed your RFA as unsuccessful. Unfortunately, it did not demonstrate the level of support required by the community for the appointment of new administrators. Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia and for offering to serve as one of its administrators. <strong style="font-variant:small-caps">[[User:WJBscribe|WJBscribe]] [[User talk:WJBscribe|(talk)]]</strong> 22:49, 15 March 2011 (UTC) |
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=== [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/My76Strat]]=== |
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In your !vote on [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/My76Strat]], you used the edit summary {{xt| as per discussed}}<sup>[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/My76Strat&diff=prev&oldid=418723881]</sup> - please could you clarify (here would be fine) what you meant by that? Thanks, <small><span style="border:1px solid;background:#00008B">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background:#00008B;color:white"> Chzz </span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B;background-color:yellow;"> ► </span>]]</span></small> 04:31, 14 March 2011 (UTC) |
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::Since the edit is explained in the edit, it does not seem to need to be restated in the edit summary. That is what I meant by as per discussed. ie. "He weighs facts carefully" Hopes this clears things up for you[[User:Lost Josephine Minor|Lost Josephine Minor]] ([[User talk:Lost Josephine Minor#top|talk]]) 04:36, 14 March 2011 (UTC) |
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:::Yes, thanks. <small><span style="border:1px solid;background:#00008B">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background:#00008B;color:white"> Chzz </span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B;background-color:yellow;"> ► </span>]]</span></small> 05:45, 14 March 2011 (UTC) |
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<small>'''Note''': The above discussion did not occur on this page; it was copied over from [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Lost_Josephine_Minor&diff=418736236&oldid=418729813 User_talk:Lost_Josephine_Minor] with [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:My76Strat&diff=419256969&oldid=419256544 this edit] <small><span style="border:1px solid;background:#00008B">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background:#00008B;color:white"> Chzz </span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B;background-color:yellow;"> ► </span>]]</span></small> 19:00, 17 March 2011 (UTC)</small> |
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== Michigan State Student looking forward to working with you! == |
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Hey. I'm Hunter. I look forward to working with you! What do you think of our topic so far?--[[User:hbaum16|hbaum16]] ([[User talk:hbaum16|talk]]) <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|undated]] comment added 00:41, 16 March 2011 (UTC).</span><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:I did append information to your talk page. Do let me know of questions you may have. [[User:My76Strat|My76Strat]] ([[User talk:My76Strat#top|talk]]) 07:14, 16 March 2011 (UTC) |
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==Comments mutual== |
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As a favour to me, perhaps you could cut him a little slack? The RfA isn't going anywhere and I don't think the two of you are going to see eye to eye before the close. I'd like to think you could chalk it up to just meeting him in the wrong place at the wrong time. On another note, I don;t suppose you've given any thought to rejoining the admin corps yourself, have you? [[User:HJ Mitchell|<font color="Teal" face="Tahoma">'''HJ Mitchell'''</font>]] | [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<font color="Navy" face= "Times New Roman">Penny for your thoughts? </font>]] 03:54, 15 March 2011 (UTC) |
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:Ah, happened to sign on after the RfA had already closed. In retrospect, I should have held my tongue. I realize I was hard on him, and I can only begin to imagine the strain he felt from RfA. Strat, if you're reading this, I just want to say that it was nothing personal. In other news, I have given thought to returning to Wikipedia, but I honestly don't know if I can set aside enough time for editing; I blame school - it devours all my time. If I come back, it'll probably be by summer at earliest. Can't say for sure though, I'll have to see what my plans for the summer are. RL can be a real handful sometimes :/ Hope all is well with you, and nice to hear from you again. All the best, '''[[User:Fastily|<span style='font-family: "Trebuchet MS"; color:#4B0082'><big>F</big><small>ASTILY</small></span>]]''' <sup><small>[[User talk:Fastily|<span style = 'color:#4B0082'>(TALK)</span>]]</small></sup> 00:57, 16 March 2011 (UTC) |
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::My eyes did come upon these, Upon happening, I see two fine examples, and they are not the design anticipated. They are better! And they lend themselves to a fine transition, indeed. Of course I should set my hand to such intentions. It is ironic, that you say, "it was nothing personal". This was reiterated by the formal tone I had been asked to dispense. And yet I did know; "nothing! was personal", If you don't believe me, ask Fastily. But yes it is true, I walked in wearing my formal best. If everyone else was laid back, shorts and T's, I would look funny. Not a stitch was tattered on exit, however. |
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::The lawyer is already preparing his remit, And then, by insult, delivers his consequence. To the extent this also besmirched the support, who had my formal! respect; That time had come, to deliver by courteous slap to the face, notification! "Excuse me sir, SLAP, I believe it's time for a duel". Sir, regarding Q5, I did extended to you decency; I called you strenuous, enough to do things; Which a man would need, in doing an upright thing. Within the fold, a colleague, I'll be known; And the clue which was relegated to a quip, and thoroughly rejected, wasn't really rejected at all, but invited to help with repairs. My words are seen, giving answer; Indeed!, we will have cause, and prose will form, but mine will not be against soul. Some however, will always!, be sufficiently candid, heard clear, crisp, and fresh,(sting of slap optional); And in the telling; Until everyone, knows they agree. If I feel, another point worthy, You can count upon, that I will append that point! With well formed prose I will advocate thought, which had been disregarded; To give regard, with sentiment. Moving from here, forward! [[User:My76Strat|My76Strat]] ([[User talk:My76Strat#top|talk]]) 05:31, 17 March 2011 (UTC) |
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== Time limits on adminship == |
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Hi I have proposed [[Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#Time_limits_on_adminship|time limits on adminship]]. I'd appreciate your input! --[[User:Surturz|Surturz]] ([[User talk:Surturz|talk]]) 07:04, 17 March 2011 (UTC) |
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:Thank you, Sure! [[User:My76Strat|My76Strat]] ([[User talk:My76Strat#top|talk]]) 07:07, 17 March 2011 (UTC) |
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== Copying Talk Page Conversations == |
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Um, I don't think you're supposed to be copying conversations from other people's talk pages onto your own ([http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:My76Strat&diff=419250551&oldid=419145426] from [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fastily&oldid=419045853] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:My76Strat&diff=419256969&oldid=419256544] from [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Lost_Josephine_Minor&oldid=418738033]). You lose the attribution that is required under the CC/GDFL licensing. Also it's really confusing. [[User:SheepNotGoats|SheepNotGoats]] ([[User talk:SheepNotGoats|talk]]) 15:17, 17 March 2011 (UTC) |
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::You are correct, sorry for not regarding attribution properly. It's not a small thing. Your notes will help as I sort it properly, and I will make sure to proberly regard you consel in the future, Thanks. [[User:My76Strat|My76Strat]] ([[User talk:My76Strat#top|talk]]) 21:40, 17 March 2011 (UTC) |
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