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*Oh great, another one. And of course my time is limited right at the moment, naturally. Perfect timing. And they didn't notify me, either. Thank you, though, Diannaa, for your professionalism and courtesy. [[User:Montanabw|<font color="006600">Montanabw</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Montanabw|<font color="purple">(talk)</font>]]</sup> 17:26, 12 April 2015 (UTC) |
*Oh great, another one. And of course my time is limited right at the moment, naturally. Perfect timing. And they didn't notify me, either. Thank you, though, Diannaa, for your professionalism and courtesy. [[User:Montanabw|<font color="006600">Montanabw</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Montanabw|<font color="purple">(talk)</font>]]</sup> 17:26, 12 April 2015 (UTC) |
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== Longchamp Racecourse == |
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Sorry to see you dealing with all this wild, wacky stuff. Might be good to let it go for a while. I know you are busy with a million things, but I wanted to let you know that [[Longchamp Racecourse]] is still a very short article. I can also see potential for another article, perhaps title [[Longchamp Racecourse in art]] that would discuss all of the paintings depicting this subject. Be well. [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 20:30, 12 April 2015 (UTC) |
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I've dropped you a line, would appreciate a response. WormTT(talk) 15:39, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
- Have not seen an email from you ... but will ping from my end. Montanabw(talk) 03:09, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
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(you had to know I'd work some sort of "PC" in there). Regarding this: Like. Well done. ^5. WTG. Montanabw FTW. I award you one "attaboy" .. um, atta person ... ugh ... atta Homo erectus? — Ched : ? 14:38, 13 March 2015 (UTC) (was that over the top? - I can never quite tell)
curious
The discussion is archived here. Serendipodous 09:25, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
Thought you might like to see this
youtu.be/Aw_OdlneV7I has a nice short clip of a 22 y.o. Finnhorse gelding at work. The English in the subtitles is simply embarrassing but gets the point across. His name means hard-working! --Pitke (talk) 14:35, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
Children's novels about horses
Hi, Montanabw! I've been rethinking the necessity for a separate Children's novels about horses category. I thought it was weird to have children's books in the Novels about horses category when they weren't in the main Novels about animals category, but it's seeming more OK to me now. I'll just put the children's horse books in the general children's animal category and have the separate category deleted. By the way, I notice you put Brighty of the Grand Canyon in the Novels about horses category – you know Brighty is a donkey? It doesn't bother me (they are equus, after all) but I thought I'd mention it in case you didn't know. Nice book – I read it last year. Robina Fox (talk) 02:41, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
- Yeah, I knew Brighty was a donkey, but I don't think we have a novels about donkeys cat, so we? Montanabw(talk) 03:54, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
You have been awarded a Ray of Sunshine
Thank you for always making me smile, helping me over the frustrations of editing and your tireless support. SusunW (talk) 14:16, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
If you have time, could you take a look at Sweet_Briar_College#Riding and see if the text has encyclopedic merit to your knowledge? And copyedit if needed? The POV advocates have been out on this article because of the college's sudden pending closure. I trimmed the section somewhat just now. Cheers, Softlavender (talk) 05:03, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
PS: What the heck is the Affiliated National Riding Commission (ANRC), and why does it have the same acronym as the American National Riding Commission (ANRC)? Softlavender (talk) 05:19, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
- Good question, probably two ex-BFFs got in a fight over a rule about tail braiding or something. Horse people are prone to dramafests and hissy fits of not getting along with anyone - it's why I navigate WP so well.. (LOL)! Montanabw(talk) 15:57, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
- Good, now I don't feel so bad for never having gotten on a horse except for one summer when I was 10 in summer camp. Oh yeah and maybe a trail ride 15 years ago. Anyway, thanks; looks much better now. FYI: I'm the editor who spelled out "Affiliated National Riding Commission" (it was only the acronym before); I may have gotten it wrong and it may be the other but that was my best guess looking at Google and such vis-a-vis the college. Softlavender (talk) 16:17, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
- Horses are wonderful; they put up with people too crazy for people to put up with! Unfortunately, some of the latter make it rather difficult for me to do much with Equine assisted therapy- a therapy that is truly a cool thing! Montanabw(talk) 18:43, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
Dragon warning
Since a study on genetic findings on Finnhorse ancestry has been published, I'll be, sooner or later, updating Finnhorse. --Pitke (talk) 14:32, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
Dubai odds (sort of)
Betting is illegal in Dubai, so there are no official odds, but the British bookmakers do take bets on the races there and those are the odds I quoted. I have now added the result from the Racing Post site to the Prince Bishop (horse) article. I'll leae it here as well [1]. Tigerboy1966 08:49, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
- And the additional hilarious part is that I also placed a bet in the USA at our local simulcast place, Chrome went off at 4/5, Prince Bishop at 14-1; would that have been an exacta to write home about... dang! But find a chart? Sheesh! Montanabw(talk) 16:47, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
I have had a go at the Dubai World Cup colours on the Talk page. Would be glad of some help, particularly with the US colours, many of which have (missing) emblems or letters in a circle etc. Let me know which ones are wrong (I have photos of Cigar showing the AP initials, so need to work on that), and if possible provide links with photos/illustrations of how they should look. Many thanks. (JockeyColours (talk) 22:10, 30 March 2015 (UTC))
More if you have time
If you have time, could you take a gander at this new article, Paul D. Cronin, and do whatever needs a-doing? Thanks. :-) Softlavender (talk) 11:03, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
Also, on this article, several non-independent sources are being used for a fair number of citations. If you have time to consider this, could you decide whether the person's self-generated resumes [2] and [3] are adequate to source Awards and Positions held? I personally never use self-generated citations, but maybe it's OK there.(?) Danke, Softlavender (talk) 05:31, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
- Such sources are iffy, but we aren't at GA or FA yet, so at worst they are WP:SELFPUB. I'm a little busy with assorted drahmahz right now, but I'll try to take a look. Montanabw(talk) 05:41, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
- I've noticed. LOL. Softlavender (talk) 05:45, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
DR/N Case
Hey. I'm sorry for things ended up at the DRN, I thought we would be able to reach a compromise but eventually it seemed like a lost cause and I felt I had no option but to close it. What I neglected to mention in my opening statements was that this was the first case I had ever moderated, and perhaps it showed. Regardless, I hope it works out all right for everybody and you'll be able to reach some sort of common ground. Kharkiv07Talk 04:20, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
- You actually did a FANTASTIC job @Kharkiv07: and you just had the bad fortune of hitting a horse article ... you really should have tackled the one that followed, you know, on Islam and Antisemitism. That one would have been a snap! (grin) Montanabw(talk) 04:24, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
Hi Montanabw
Wild, wild horses...North America1000 05:26, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
- Heh, that one could go with the Brighty of the Grand Canyon thread above. Montanabw(talk) 21:35, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
- Didn't see that...this was just an April 1 thang. North America1000 01:43, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
Recent events
Best to say nothing and just rise above it. These things have an amazing way of sorting themselves out and what goes around comes around as the editor is discovering. I've seen it dozens of times before on Wikipedia, people usually get their comeuppance in the end. There is a certain gratifying irony here though. Giano (talk) 07:31, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
- Heh, which drama? I'm tracking about five right now (Email me if you don't want to say which one here). Montanabw(talk) 18:04, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
- "Silly season" for only a month now? You've been taking a winter sleep? Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 05:43, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
- OK, two months, but prior to February it was only the normal wiki-dysfunction. It always kicks up a notch leading up to the Spring Equinox, I don't rule out that cabin fever gets on-wiki, or maybe seasonal affective disorder, but I've noticed the every February and March it seems crazier than the rest of the year. for further research... Montanabw(talk) 05:57, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
- It's april, and yes, dust is settling down... Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 06:08, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
Happy Easter
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Happy Easter.... ! Hafspajen (talk) 19:03, 5 April 2015 (UTC) |
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rrRRAWRRR. Me see post to honorable Bishonen. Must admit that haz much lust in heart for true original 'Zilla. Was sad to see from article Zilla (Toho) this: It can travel long distances over land and sea, burrow underground and reproduce via parthenogenesis, and is able to lay over 200 eggs, Guess we no have gender. But good news, honorable family is multi-gender. See Little twins. Also: There large harem in family too. Hope you will be most welcomed into family. Me like educate little Montanabw user. rrRRAWRRR — ChedZILLA 04:49, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
- Me try fix User:Bishonen ping .. think must sign again for to work. — ChedZILLA 04:51, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
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To you. Hafspajen (talk) 09:38, 6 April 2015 (UTC) |
OK, so does this mean I am suffering because I brought technology to mere mortals, or...? :-D Montanabw(talk) 18:51, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
Three for the money etc
Ashamed as I am to admit it, I haven't mastered the PING thing, so the response is on my talkpage. Tigerboy1966 13:14, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
Haf's userbox
See Userbox:Haf's decoration service. It includes a tag for Category:Talkpages decorated by Hafspajen. Greetings, Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 05:12, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
Native American People vs Native People
I am a relative newbie to Wikipedia contributions, so this is just a question: You reverted a tiny edit of mine on Pow wow relabeling the link to Indigenous peoples of the Americas (just labelled "Native people" before my edit) and explained this by there being "No need for that to be inside the piped link." Surely my edit made it clearer that the link was to a more narrowly scoped article than "Native people" (in the world?), with no loss of flow in the text? I cannot understand why you reverted my edit, and remain curious. Hfossa (talk) 15:20, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
- You made that edit back in January, took me a while to spot it. Basically, the link was already going to the Indigenous peoples of the Americas article, what you did was move the word "America's" from outside the link to inside the link, which I reverted because it seemed to make a "sea of blue" - there is room for reasonable people to disagree on style, but as the people involved usually refer to themselves in the generic as "Natives" or "Native people" (you can all but hear that capital letter, too) but not "American Natives" (that sounds really odd...) so it works better, IMHO to keep "America" as a modifier outside the link. Hope that helps. Montanabw(talk) 07:17, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
Article for deletion
@Joshua Jonathan, CFynn, and Ogress: Please see this nomination for deletion.VictoriaGraysonTalk 03:27, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
re your circus
Advice to RO posted by Chillum today, in response to an email request[4] (see bottom); she removed it along with a random request for comment.[5] Why? EChastain (talk) 15:41, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
- This is not a new user. RO is almost certainly a sockpuppet of someone, only question who. They admit to a previous account. It's also probably someone who tangled with me in the past, because they got very hostile very fast when I commented (negatively) at their FAC, then they asked me to not post at their talk page rather quickly when I commented on a discussion there. Montanabw(talk) 20:06, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
- I don't think the account she disclosed to arbcom is the account you're looking for. She's said variously she used a previous account for a few "weeks" or a couple of "months". It's not enough time to develop whatever agenda she has. She pinged Victoriaearle 18 times on 2 April. That's not rational!
Dr. Blofeld told me how great her last 500 edits were.[6] Look at her first 1000 or so edits, from 1 September to mid December. Then suddenly she starts massively editing a few articles, something like 1200 edits to Irataba alone. Very strange. Perhaps Maunus is now finding out what a mess the sourcing on Irataba is. He should go through the whole article to verify sourcing word for word. I've watched her just change the citation but retain the same wording. EChastain (talk) 22:24, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
- I don't think the account she disclosed to arbcom is the account you're looking for. She's said variously she used a previous account for a few "weeks" or a couple of "months". It's not enough time to develop whatever agenda she has. She pinged Victoriaearle 18 times on 2 April. That's not rational!
- This user also went after User:Eric Corbett quite viciously. The mass edits to an article makes it extremely difficult to follow the edit history. If it's a sock of an account that I have concerns about, copyvio and close paraphrasing is a serious worry. Also just plain making up stuff. Montanabw(talk) 01:06, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
MfD nomination of User:Montanabw/Duck box
User:Montanabw/Duck box, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Montanabw/Duck box and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of User:Montanabw/Duck box during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 02:27, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
@Dennis Brown:, see above thread for one reason why we need to !keep it. Montanabw(talk) 02:38, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
- I was one of the first to have suspicions, but from an editor and administrative perspective, I kind of felt to compelled to nominate and let the community decide, just as I would do for any similar page for any other users. Stuff like that is typically best kept off-wiki. I have tons of notes for various editors but they are offwiki. Yahoo Notepad is pretty good for that, if you have a Yahoo account. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 08:47, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
- Sometimes there is an honesty and openness to keeping such things on-wiki as well. I have a Yahoo account, but I don't particularly like it. Montanabw(talk) 00:02, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
- I agree that it is handy, and before becoming an admin, I had notes about spam users and such, it went unnoticed. When I read the policy fully, I just deleted it. It, like your page, was borderline (imho). Again, I don't think you are intentionally trying to do wrong here, but if someone points something out to me, and I think it may be a problem, I'm a bit duty bound to treat it the same as I would any similar page by any user. The problem is that when these pages have the wrong conclusion, they can also intimidate or run off users. I haven't commented on the merits of the information, nor even fully investigated these particular links due to time constraints. If they were less than a month old, I wouldn't have used MFD and ignored it, assuming it was for an upcoming investigation. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 00:01, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
- Sometimes there is an honesty and openness to keeping such things on-wiki as well. I have a Yahoo account, but I don't particularly like it. Montanabw(talk) 00:02, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
- Well, I think you said it best when you said the community needs to decide. It WAS for an upcoming investigation, just never quite ripe, but I think it is correct that at this point I have to let this process (which now also includes an ANI and an SPI filed by one user on herself) unfold. Montanabw(talk) 00:23, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
Outing
Keep in mind I use geolocation as a method of uncovering IP socks. Do you have on wiki info to the Geolocation you are inferring to? If you don't please drop that aspect, if you do please make sure it is very very clear where it was because without that information it's a reasonable assumption that you may have outed RO. If there is proof of that and you have good reasons then probably best to start an SPI. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 17:54, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
- I transplanted a complaint to ANI on behalf of RO [[7]]. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 18:13, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
Tag bombing?
There is currently another user adding tags to multiple articles. See, for instance, Warburg Haus, Hamburg and [8]. Wikiwiserick (talk) 20:44, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
- Have to say you are on your own for those at the moment, as you can see above, I've got my own dramafest happening... (sigh). Montanabw(talk) 20:47, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
April 2015
You are free to defend yourself and present evidence of wrongdoing; however, I strongly suggest that you back away from the RO/SW/LW issues. There is no need to repeat your point of view. Provide your evidence, and allow the community to come to a consensus. — Ched : ? 23:34, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
- OK. Thanks for the suggestion, Ched. I think I've provided all I can. I do hope that User:SheriWysong (signing her edits as User:LynnWysong) will likewise cease baiting me. But I guess DFTT applies to those. Montanabw(talk) 23:42, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
@Ched: Do you think she should also withdraw from the Irataba FAC? I was looking forward to seeing her give it a fair and a decent review after Maunus has finished. RO doesn't own the article of course, and it now also has major input from Maunus as well as myself.♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:54, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
- Dr. Blofeld, Montana has said she intends to restart her review, and given the number of changes since her first review that would be very valuable. It would have been better to leave the peer review open, then take time for more rewriting before FAC2. I appreciate the work people have put into it, but it isn't ready. I'm making my way through it carefully to leave a comment, but I find in places that I'm having to read the sources to make sense of it, and it is reaching the stage where there is just too much to comment on. Also, I think full use has not been made of the primary sources. They are really very interesting, and I think more could be done to bring them alive for the reader. Sarah (SV) (talk) 19:51, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
With due respect, I have contributed to 30 featured articles SV, I think I know when an article is ready for FAC or approaching a level which can drag an article over the line. Wehwalt, SchroCat and RHM22 are three of our most prolific FA editors and have all supported, Wehwalt and RHM before Montanabw even came along. It has been very well researched, especially now Maunus has found specialist books to contribute. Yes, it would have been good to have had this before the FAC but it was approaching FA standard before Maunus began on it which he even acknowledged. And it's not as if I rushed anything. The PR was kept open over twice as long as normal and had more than double the normal turnout for a PR. Also looking at Bernard Williams for instance, that wouldn't stand a chance of passing FAC currently. In fact I think it should be taken to FAR based on the sourcing. Now that's a case where full use has not been made of the primary sources which exist today... I made a considerable effort to find as much on Irataba as possible.♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:00, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, Dr. Blofeld, I disagree. As you know, FAC standards have risen. The article went straight from GAN to FAC1, from there straight to peer review, the peer review was closed before people had finishing commenting, then it went straight to FAC2. At each point people were rewriting during a review process, rather than slowly reading the sources to gain a deeper understanding. Some of the problems identified during the peer review remain. Also, the article needs a copy edit, but parts of it are difficult to copy edit because they're not clear enough. Sarah (SV) (talk) 20:15, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
- Well we'll have to agree to disagree. I know how this looks from my end. I think you're right now that it needs another copyedit after Maunus's addition which we can look into once he's done. Constructive criticism is appreciated, I think what's important here is promoting an article, not who contributed to it. Perhaps you could take a look at Castell Coch anyway and tell us if that's ready or not anyway!♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:18, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
TFA
Hi Montanabw. I commented on your nomination for a May 2 TFA. If you have the time I was wondering if I could trouble you to comment on my TFA nomination for May 1. See here. Cheers. Freikorp (talk) 12:26, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
What is your opinion?
A recent edit reminded me of an old discussion on Talk:Caspar David Friedrich. One or two other users, among them Rhode Island Red, have removed my short references to HA Schult and Gotthard Graubner (see [9]) from the Caspar David Friedrich page, simply because they were of the opinion that these are minor artists not worth mentioning in the featured Caspar David Friedrich article, although the work of these important German artists is clearly inspired by Friedrich, as several independent sources say. To my mind, linking is an important feature of Wikipedia, binding the project together into an interconnected whole, as connections to related subjects of other articles are always useful, and these were just two additional links that were well sourced. What is your opinion concerning this case? Wikiwiserick (talk) 12:44, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
Courtesy notice
Hi Montanabw. This is a courtesy notice about a new ANI thread: Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#User:Montanabw. -- Diannaa (talk) 14:25, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
- Oh great, another one. And of course my time is limited right at the moment, naturally. Perfect timing. And they didn't notify me, either. Thank you, though, Diannaa, for your professionalism and courtesy. Montanabw(talk) 17:26, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
Longchamp Racecourse
Sorry to see you dealing with all this wild, wacky stuff. Might be good to let it go for a while. I know you are busy with a million things, but I wanted to let you know that Longchamp Racecourse is still a very short article. I can also see potential for another article, perhaps title Longchamp Racecourse in art that would discuss all of the paintings depicting this subject. Be well. Viriditas (talk) 20:30, 12 April 2015 (UTC)