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Moni3 is wallowing in the peat and muck of the Everglades article and its satellites. Grab a paddle and help out! |
Hey! :)
Hey Moni,
I'm running out of time today, so I'll get to M tomorrow, k? From my first initial read-through, it looks ossim. ;) Willow (talk) 19:57, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
- Yay! Whenever you can would be great. The keeper of Davy Jones' locker looked at it today, too. --Moni3 (talk) 20:13, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
I took care of the list. Cheers. Realist2 ('Come Speak To Me') 00:26, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
Yes your edits were smack on. Realist2 ('Come Speak To Me') 14:39, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
- Good deal. I already noticed something I missed - Daily Mirror in italics. It's good to take a break and come back once more for once last peek. Excellent article. Great job. --Moni3 (talk) 14:42, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
Black Mo thanks
<font=3> Thanks for your all comments and support - Black Moshannon State Park made featured article! Take care, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 01:45, 25 April 2008 (UTC) |
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Pennsylvania State Parks Groundhog Award, with Featured Article Star | ||
This award is given with respect and admiration to Moni3 for assistance in helping Black Moshannon State Park become a Featured Article from Ruhrfisch and Dincher (talk) 18:27, 27 April 2008 (UTC)) |
- Sweet! WP:FLORIDA needs one of these. With a flamingo standing on an alligator, both being eaten by a panther beneath a palm tree. Next time I visit Pennsylvania, I'm going to be looking for beavers wearing bronze stars, like so many disco medallions. Thanks so much! --Moni3 (talk) 19:44, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
You've done it again :-)) ... journalist, writer and environmentalist ... Literature because she's a journalist/writer, or Culture and society as an environmentalist? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 22:56, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
- Well, I am drawn to the utterly ambiguous. If it weren't you, I'd tell folks to leave it open to interpretation, but I wouldn't ever want to deal with the crap you deal with, so I'm leaning toward Culture and society. Just in case you have to figure out where to put her in the FA list...should it pass. --Moni3 (talk) 23:12, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
- Jawga, LOL; I've been to the airport in Atlanta :-)) Thanks, Moni !! Just in case, that is. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 00:19, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
- Oh, freakin' I have too. I spent 10 hours in the Atlanta airport last August. Dang. Although I've otherwise spent quite some time in your namesake. Thanks for checking. --Moni3 (talk) 00:27, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
- That was one of the best edit summaries ever seen outside of Yomangani's or The Fat Man's talk pages :-)) SandyGeorgia (Talk) 00:41, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
- What, isn't there a notable edit summary list somewhere? Or is that just another gem that we keep amongst ourselves? --Moni3 (talk) 00:56, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
- User:The Fat Man Who Never Came Back keeps track of unusual names; bet we could get him to track stupendous edit summaries. Well, back to work here; watch out for those drunken truck drivers !! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 01:03, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
- I'd sign a petition for this new list; with The Fat Man at the helm, it would be nothing short of glorious. Maralia (talk) 02:21, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
- I know The Fat Man's foibles: we can surely get him to head this venture (but first, let's get him to copyedit that FAC at the bottom of the list). He pretends laziness: yea, right. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 02:27, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
- Perhaps a contest to see whose edit summaries will become the basis for a Stephen King novel, David Lynch film, or in Sandy's case, plot for Laguna Beach. But nonetheless, I'm sure Mrs. Douglas would be very pleased to be so associated with these edits. --Moni3 (talk) 02:32, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
- If we keep this up, Outriggr and Ceoil will catch on and come over to illustrate the book; just don't let The Fat Man get near the illustrations, or we'll all be blushing :-) SandyGeorgia (Talk) 02:42, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
- I think avant garde high school performance art would do these summaries justice. --Moni3 (talk) 02:47, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
- Ceoil will throw some YouTube videos at it, too! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 02:50, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
- I think avant garde high school performance art would do these summaries justice. --Moni3 (talk) 02:47, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
- If we keep this up, Outriggr and Ceoil will catch on and come over to illustrate the book; just don't let The Fat Man get near the illustrations, or we'll all be blushing :-) SandyGeorgia (Talk) 02:42, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
- I'd sign a petition for this new list; with The Fat Man at the helm, it would be nothing short of glorious. Maralia (talk) 02:21, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
- User:The Fat Man Who Never Came Back keeps track of unusual names; bet we could get him to track stupendous edit summaries. Well, back to work here; watch out for those drunken truck drivers !! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 01:03, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
- What, isn't there a notable edit summary list somewhere? Or is that just another gem that we keep amongst ourselves? --Moni3 (talk) 00:56, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
- That was one of the best edit summaries ever seen outside of Yomangani's or The Fat Man's talk pages :-)) SandyGeorgia (Talk) 00:41, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
- Oh, freakin' I have too. I spent 10 hours in the Atlanta airport last August. Dang. Although I've otherwise spent quite some time in your namesake. Thanks for checking. --Moni3 (talk) 00:27, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
- Jawga, LOL; I've been to the airport in Atlanta :-)) Thanks, Moni !! Just in case, that is. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 00:19, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
Congrats on another great job. Horologium (talk) 18:39, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks so much, Horologium! I would like to bring Everglades and its 4 or 5 associated articles to FA and perhaps make it a Featured Topic as well. I also responded to some comments at WP:Florida yesterday. Don't know if you saw them. --Moni3 (talk) 18:42, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
Hippie
I've responded to your offer of help, here. Thanks. Viriditas (talk) 10:18, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for your reply. Please keep the talk page on your watchlist as I'll be adding a second reply soon. Viriditas (talk) 09:28, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
Katie Sierra GA review
Yo Moni, thanks for taking the time to review Katie Sierra! I don't know if you have the talkpage on your watchlist, but I have left a few comments addressing some of the points of your review. As it has been nominated quite some time ago, I am quite anxious to bring the article up to standard as soon as possible, so if you could drop by the talkpage, that would be great. Regards, Skomorokh 15:45, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
- I do have it on my watchlist, and I just left you some comments. Don't make me come collect that $1000. --Moni3 (talk) 15:51, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
- Ha ha I am rather coming to enjoy this review. Thanks for the prompt response! Skomorokh 16:02, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
Re Katie Sierra
Hi Moni, and thanks for the note. I've given the article a very quick once-over (pushed for time at the moment!), but for what it's worth, I agree with you on both points. The article does come over as slightly non-neutral in places, though I'm sure this is a function of the prose rather than editor bias. To take one example, from the lead: "The actions and attitude of the school toward Sierra were sharply criticized in the media for what critics perceived as censorship and McCarthyism, as a dark sign of post-September 11th American society and its conception of freedom of speech." It's not clear whether it's the media claiming that American society has entered a 'dark' phase, or it's the article writer's opinion. Such a statement is also open to challenge, so, assuming it is media opinon being paraphrased, it should really be cited (even though I'm not generally a fan of cites in the lead).
Regarding your second point, per WP:MOSQUOTE, the first indented quotation is far too short to use that format, and I agree that it over-emphasises the phrase in the context of the section (possibly giving the impression of POV). The MoS also strongly discourages wikilinks within quotes. The second indented quote at the end of the article is also slightly short, although I would argue that one less strongly as it is more directly relevant to the section it's in. I'm not sure why one would use epigraph rather than blockquote either (it's the first time I've seen it!). No problem with the boxed quotes though, as they are permitted by the MoS and give a balanced viewpoint from both 'sides' of the dispute.
Hope this helps! Any questions, etc... you know ;) All the best, EyeSerenetalk 20:05, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
- Hi, EyeSerene. Thanks for getting back to me. As per a discussion with the nominator of the article, he's going to remove it from the list of GA noms for the time being. I'm recusing myself from the review process, since I assisted him in locating better sources than what he had. I sent him I think more than 20 emails of newspaper stories to replace the more liberal sources he had. He stated on his talk page that he's going to read what I've sent him and rewrite it depending on the material. I may remain involved in the article, but I don't think I can remain as neutral about it as I was since I read the majority of what I sent him. --Moni3 (talk) 20:18, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
- Fair enough, I think you've made the best decision - if the review had continued I don't think you would have needed to recuse, but a major re-write is different (and would probably in any case fall foul of the instability criterion). I'd also like to say what a pleasure it is to have reviewers like you on the team, who are willing to pitch in and work on the article they're reviewing ;) Fantastic work! EyeSerenetalk 20:41, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
Re: Is my playhouse that interesting?
Your performance has been outstanding, so I assumed that I could "take the plunge" and improve your works. I would certainly be willing to offer some help for the articles. You have completed several impressive ones, and you're a comprehensive editor. I did recall a source for the Spanish moss garments, but I couldn't find it. I always attempt to cite my sources for various changes. Good luck on future FA endeavors! I will continue to add further details to the current culture sandbox. CVW (Talk) 22:00, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
- Oh, well in that case, jump right in! I altered my userpage to reflect what I'll be working on. I need all the help I can get. This project is massive. --Moni3 (talk) 22:01, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
Mary Meader
Hello Moni3. I noticed you failed Mary Meader as a GA. Would you mind putting the article back on hold? I completly forgot about the article and I will be addressing the issues tommorow or the next day. I would otherwise have renominated it for GA once the changes are made, but since there is such a backlog there I would rather not go through the experiance again. I have very little experiance in the GA field being that this is only my second (the first was Lazare Ponticelli, which is now an FA!). Please give me feedback on whether this is possible or re-review it after the changes are done. Editorofthewikireview my edits here! 01:04, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
- Heh. You're new to writing, and I'm new to reviewing them. I think you're good to just renominate it at any time. If you want me to review it again, I can. Just let me know. --Moni3 (talk) 01:20, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
Indigenous people of the Everglades region
Looks good - have you thought about nominating it at WP:DYK? You may like recent changes to the Native Americans section of Worlds End State Park. I think we sould also work on a Indigenous people of Pennsylvania article, or at least add it to the ever lengthening to do list. Thanks, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 20:24, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
- I've nominated maybe half a dozen items to DYK, and all but one have been turned down. So, like a big dumb idiot, I offered this article too. I eagerly await the creativity with which my factoid will be denied... Worlds End is looking good! --Moni3 (talk) 20:31, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
Re: Climate content check in Everglades
Hey. Sure, I'll be happy to take a look. Just give me a few minutes, and I'll get right on it. Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 16:51, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
- Alright, I gave it a copyedit and corrected a couple things, but it looks good for the most part. It should be good to go now. Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 19:01, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
You lurk on other user's talk pages too? (LOL). Anyways, we'd be glad to have you aboard, just add {{adopting}} to your userpage. and then go into the C:ADOPT and leave messages for users who haven't been offered adoption, and then make sure make the appropriate change to their adoptme as explained above.
Dear Moni, please accept my congratulations and best wishes. Graham. GrahamColmTalk 20:56, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
- Graham, thank you once again for your support. I look forward to living up to your high expectations with future nominations. --Moni3 (talk) 20:58, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
WikiProject Good Articles May Newsletter
The May Newsletter for WikiProject Good Articles has now been published. Dr. Cash (talk) 22:16, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
The Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles Newsletter |
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Nice Job on And the Band Played On
Hi Moni. In case I forgot to mention it, nice job getting this article to "GA" status. The last time I looked at it (more than a year ago) it was a mess. Uranographer (talk) 06:59, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
Mary Seacole
All done. Rudget (Help?) 13:15, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
heads up on Melaleuca quinquenervia
Given yer gonna work up Everglades at some point, I was just giving you a heads up on Melaleuca quinquenervia, a stub I completely forgot I started way back when, which I think would be good to get to GA or FA at some stage. Someone has added a lot about the situation in Florida which may need a look over a bit later. I am just tidying it and I'll get some more taxonomic and ecological stuff from my neck of the woods (Oz) as well but I am not familiar with stuff in US. Anyway...Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 22:19, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
- I saw that change. I'm going to rewrite the entire second half of the article, expanding it significantly by creating larger articles. I'm in the middle of the Geology and ecology of the Everglades right now, and the next one I'll be doing is Draining and development of the Everglades. Restoration is coming up after that, and those last two are probably where invasive species and encroachment will be addressed. It's going to take me a couple months at the least to get them all up to FA quality. Let me know when you're working on Melaleuca and if there's anything I can do to help out. Thanks. --Moni3 (talk) 22:26, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
- I have just pulled out my local aussie plant books to spruce up the beginning bit on basic description/taxonomy etc. -the only other thing initially is finishing off converting the refs to inline. As they are from peer-reviewed journals etc. I suspect they will end up staying. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 23:37, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
White Mountain art
I thank you for taking the time to review White Mountain art. I have made a number of changes already. Some require the use of my reference materials that are not currently available to me. I will continue to make changes that you suggest to which I agree. On the talk page to the article, I will respond with comments where I feel strongly that I agree with Jack Bethune. Is this OK with you for a way to proceed? And, please give me two weeks to make changes and have discussions. OK? I feel we are all trying to make this article better. JJ (talk) 22:25, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
- Let me take a look at the article with some fresh eyes tomorrow. I've been writing one steadily throughout the day, and that overtaxes my copy editing abilities. I had two featured article candidates that went on many weeks after I expected them to, and I went on vacation without my materials to respond to the comments about them. I know what that's like. Where we seem to disagree, we'll have to get consensus from other GA reviewers. It's not time to get stressed out yet. --Moni3 (talk) 22:38, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
- You have been very helpful. I have implemented many of your suggestions. I have taken exception to some. Please see may comments at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:White_Mountain_art#GA_review:_evaluation_and_responses. I continue to believe that everyone involved wants this to be a good article on the subject. I hope you will find that I'm opinionated but reasonable to work with. And, again, thanks for doing such a thorough and thoughtful review. (I did mention that I have not read guidelines. And, I probably won't unless they will help clarify issues that to me are common sense.) JJ (talk) 01:12, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
- Moni3: I have implemented most of your suggestions, with only one exception that requires reference materials that I won't have until next week. Those which I dispute are discussed on the article's talk page (see above). Please 1) review my changes and 2) discuss disagreements on the article's talk page. I feel confident we can reach compromise on these outstanding issues. JJ (talk) 11:08, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
So sorry to be a total pain, but you'll have to remove all the fair-use images from that user page per our policy. :) indopug (talk) 22:35, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
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