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:@[[User:Prolog|Prolog]] Sorry, I wasn't aware of that. And there were no extended confirmed protections on any of the articles I was editing. I do believe the template addition I added was appropriate as there are multiple users, such as Volunteer Marek, cordyceps-zombie, Wolbo, and GizzyCatBella, editing articles related to Crimea with the intention to push an obviously pro-Ukrainian viewpoint. Wikipedia is meant to be neutral, and that means that references in the infobox that Sevastopol is de facto controlled by Russia, or that it's governor is [[Mikhail Razvozhayev]] is entirely inappropriate. Regardless of what any editors say about me, I am not pushing a POV, and I have no sympathy for Russia's actions in Ukraine. What angers me is that people who genuinely want to learn about Crimea and the places, people, etc. within will go to pages such as [[Sevastopol]], [[Simferopol]], or [[Republic of Crimea]], and not get information that they are looking for. Just because an editor disagrees with Russia's control over the Crimean Peninsula does not give them the right to blank large portions of the infobox, or change longstanding terminology without communication in talk just because they disagree with something. I genuinely hope that you can see that there is a lack of neutrality after these editors started editing these pages. All I was doing was trying to present a neutral point of view, and you can see that through my edits on these pages. [[User:Michael60634|Michael60634]] ([[User talk:Michael60634#top|talk]]) 03:44, 12 October 2022 (UTC) |
:@[[User:Prolog|Prolog]] Sorry, I wasn't aware of that. And there were no extended confirmed protections on any of the articles I was editing. I do believe the template addition I added was appropriate as there are multiple users, such as Volunteer Marek, cordyceps-zombie, Wolbo, and GizzyCatBella, editing articles related to Crimea with the intention to push an obviously pro-Ukrainian viewpoint. Wikipedia is meant to be neutral, and that means that references in the infobox that Sevastopol is de facto controlled by Russia, or that it's governor is [[Mikhail Razvozhayev]] is entirely inappropriate. Regardless of what any editors say about me, I am not pushing a POV, and I have no sympathy for Russia's actions in Ukraine. What angers me is that people who genuinely want to learn about Crimea and the places, people, etc. within will go to pages such as [[Sevastopol]], [[Simferopol]], or [[Republic of Crimea]], and not get information that they are looking for. Just because an editor disagrees with Russia's control over the Crimean Peninsula does not give them the right to blank large portions of the infobox, or change longstanding terminology without communication in talk just because they disagree with something. I genuinely hope that you can see that there is a lack of neutrality after these editors started editing these pages. All I was doing was trying to present a neutral point of view, and you can see that through my edits on these pages. [[User:Michael60634|Michael60634]] ([[User talk:Michael60634#top|talk]]) 03:44, 12 October 2022 (UTC) |
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::The template you added was an overkill with {{tl|POV}} and two others already there. I don't think anyone disputes that Russia is in control of Crimea. This seems like a content dispute (not "vandalism") about how that control/occupation should be presented in the article in terms of [[WP:DUE|due weight]]. The usual solution is to look at how high-quality sources write about the topic. [[User:Prolog|Prolog]] ([[User talk:Prolog|talk]]) 14:15, 12 October 2022 (UTC) |
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Hey. Please note that only extended-confirmed users are allowed to edit articles related to the Russo-Ukrainian War (Wikipedia:General sanctions/Russo-Ukrainian War). Prolog (talk) 03:12, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Prolog Sorry, I wasn't aware of that. And there were no extended confirmed protections on any of the articles I was editing. I do believe the template addition I added was appropriate as there are multiple users, such as Volunteer Marek, cordyceps-zombie, Wolbo, and GizzyCatBella, editing articles related to Crimea with the intention to push an obviously pro-Ukrainian viewpoint. Wikipedia is meant to be neutral, and that means that references in the infobox that Sevastopol is de facto controlled by Russia, or that it's governor is Mikhail Razvozhayev is entirely inappropriate. Regardless of what any editors say about me, I am not pushing a POV, and I have no sympathy for Russia's actions in Ukraine. What angers me is that people who genuinely want to learn about Crimea and the places, people, etc. within will go to pages such as Sevastopol, Simferopol, or Republic of Crimea, and not get information that they are looking for. Just because an editor disagrees with Russia's control over the Crimean Peninsula does not give them the right to blank large portions of the infobox, or change longstanding terminology without communication in talk just because they disagree with something. I genuinely hope that you can see that there is a lack of neutrality after these editors started editing these pages. All I was doing was trying to present a neutral point of view, and you can see that through my edits on these pages. Michael60634 (talk) 03:44, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
- The template you added was an overkill with {{POV}} and two others already there. I don't think anyone disputes that Russia is in control of Crimea. This seems like a content dispute (not "vandalism") about how that control/occupation should be presented in the article in terms of due weight. The usual solution is to look at how high-quality sources write about the topic. Prolog (talk) 14:15, 12 October 2022 (UTC)