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Should I be afraid. HA, that is the best joke I have heard for years. That was a good one. Now, for more than 15 years, I have been fighting and winning the fight against people like you in Denmark. YOU are nothing special. On the contrary. Your kind of personality is something which I have been fighting for years in Denmark now. AND I have won. Not because I am big, strong, tough or rich or whatever, but because the truth will always win eventually. The same thing applies to this ridiculous fight with you. Years ago, a few students of Konno did the exact same thing as you are now doing. I find it funny, that you have not been informed by them about this. It must be very important to have offered you this information indeed. The thing is, that in Denmark, the problem solved itself, as the people involved finally learned, that their conduct fell back on themself. That day will also come to you. Should it not, then it will be too late for you. There are only 2 scenarios for you. One is that you finally see the truth and stop your misconduct and defamation. The other is your complete annihilation together with the people or teachers you claim to work for. I have tried this kind of ridiculous war many times before. But you see, I am NOT afraid, simply because I am still here. And I am prospering like never before. You can continue your ways, your misconduct and your defamation. But the fact is, that as long as you do that, I of course will defend myself, but you will also continue to bring more damage both to yourself and to your teachers (Konno etc.) as well as Genseiryu in general. You obviously is not intelligent enough to figure this out for yourself (even though I tried to hint you on this matter many times before, also through private e-mails as you know). So now I have explained it in clear text to you. [[User:Peter Lee|Peter Lee]] 6 July 2005 01:08 (UTC) |
Should I be afraid. HA, that is the best joke I have heard for years. That was a good one. Now, for more than 15 years, I have been fighting and winning the fight against people like you in Denmark. YOU are nothing special. On the contrary. Your kind of personality is something which I have been fighting for years in Denmark now. AND I have won. Not because I am big, strong, tough or rich or whatever, but because the truth will always win eventually. The same thing applies to this ridiculous fight with you. Years ago, a few students of Konno did the exact same thing as you are now doing. I find it funny, that you have not been informed by them about this. It must be very important to have offered you this information indeed. The thing is, that in Denmark, the problem solved itself, as the people involved finally learned, that their conduct fell back on themself. That day will also come to you. Should it not, then it will be too late for you. There are only 2 scenarios for you. One is that you finally see the truth and stop your misconduct and defamation. The other is your complete annihilation together with the people or teachers you claim to work for. I have tried this kind of ridiculous war many times before. But you see, I am NOT afraid, simply because I am still here. And I am prospering like never before. You can continue your ways, your misconduct and your defamation. But the fact is, that as long as you do that, I of course will defend myself, but you will also continue to bring more damage both to yourself and to your teachers (Konno etc.) as well as Genseiryu in general. You obviously is not intelligent enough to figure this out for yourself (even though I tried to hint you on this matter many times before, also through private e-mails as you know). So now I have explained it in clear text to you. [[User:Peter Lee|Peter Lee]] 6 July 2005 01:08 (UTC) |
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:I find it rather interesting Peter, that you say that you have fought people like me all the time... So apparently I am not the only one trying to show who you really are? You mean there were actually others, even in Denmark, that wanted to show that you are nothing but a fake teacher, who buys his dan degrees? Of course I knew there were people in Holland that tried it before me. But since you are so nasty and persistent (like gum on your shoe), people stop after a while. It's no use anyway... But I think there's a use in continuing: bring you finally to a complete stop! Like I said, it has been going on too long already. Now you have found somebody who does NOT fall for your empty threats! You have a big mouth for somebody holding pretty bad cards... You have <u>bluffed</u> around with your prices (of minor championships), about your dan degrees (bought in Asia) and about your DKF membership (where you were kicked out). Now show me your cards... "I call you"... -- [[User:Mario Roering|Mario<font color="green">''R''</font>]] 6 July 2005 01:29 (UTC) <u>P.S.</u>: ''"you '''IS''' not intelligent enough..."''??? :-)) LOL!!! |
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Genseiryu
I've had a look - the one thing that strikes me is that it could do with a 'References' section at the end, with the sources you used to write the article listed. Under Wikipedia:Cite sources, it's always a good idea to allow users to check stuff themselves if they should so want. Dan100 14:34, Jun 13, 2005 (UTC)
Page protection
Hi Mario! I've added Genseiryu to my watchlist. The last edit to this article was 2 hours ago and the VfD tag has only been added (and then removed) three times so I am reluctant to protect the article at the moment. However, I will keep an eye on the situation and protect if necessary. JeremyA 4 July 2005 17:35 (UTC)
- Thanks a lot Jeremy! I appreciate this very much! -- MarioR 4 July 2005 18:30 (UTC)
DEFAMATION AND MISCONDUCT IS OBVIOUSLY YOUR PURPOSE IN LIFE
When are you ever gonna stop your explicit lies and defamation of my person and the Genseiryu Karate-do International Federation? I guess you simply do not have the ability to do so. Your so-called "Truth" page, created by you with lies and accusations against me, has been deleted and removed from the Internet. At least some responsible and serious people still exist on the Internet, but that certainly cannot be said about you. I only hope that Wikipedia will soon see your true purpose here, just as the www.angelfire.com did. Your purpose certainly is not to supply true and reliable information to the public. On the contrary, too much evidence can be found on Wikipedia to support the fact, that you are here only to submit false propaganda and lies with the sole purpose of defamation of my person and Genseiryu in general. You do this even though you actually have in your possession the information that contradict your articles here. THAT certainly is breaking the rules of this site and others. I feel pity for you. Peter Lee 5 July 2005 20:02 (UTC)
- I was thinking of removing this text, but I think I better leave it for a while, so everybody can see your frustration. Apparently your smooth talking at angelfire did convince them to remove a perfectly good site that only showed the true nature of a man who calls himself Peter Lee all the time but is really named Peter Larsen. There was no defamation from our side on the web pages, the only defamations were the true facts about your life. It doesn't say in Angelfire's policy (nor on Wikipedia's) that it's forbidden to give plain facts about anybody's life (like dan-degrees being claimed but not recognized by the DKF, like having been a member of clubs and organizations but also have been kicked out of them because of the aggresive nature and bad attitude, and so on). I am not defaming you, you have done it to yourself. I only summarize all the facts... Like they say: "don't shoot the messenger!" You somehow got to convince Angelfire of the opposite (hey, they are only people), but the whole site is already on line again on a mirror site. I will also talk to Angelfire about the true situation, about YOU being the one that is really slandering people's names.
- Now about defamation: if somebody is really busy giving defamation a totally new definition, it's you: your site and especially your forum is SO full of defamation, slander, name calling, untrue stories, lies, false allegations and so on, that it's really "playing the angel" (or a wolf in sheep's cloths?) to say that I am the one who is defaming somebody...
- I have, together with other people inside Genseiryu, created a NPOV article that shows both stories, without defaming anybody... As a matter of fact we even created two subpages for the two individual stories. This gave you the opportunity to give you a say on the subpage IGKF (like we can in WGKF). But apparently you don't allow anybody to say or write anything about Genseiryu besides yourself. In that case you only show to the Wikipedia moderators that you don't want to end the edit war and are nothing more than a plain, common vandalist... -- MarioR 5 July 2005 22:20 (UTC)
MORE DEFAMATION
Even though your "Truth about Peter Lee" site was removed from the internet due to the responsible people hosting this site, you simply cannot take a hint, but right away opens up another one the exact same location under another URL. You simply are a disgrace to everyone having anything to do with not only Genseiryu but martial arts in general. Recently I was informed, that you was awarded 3rd kyu (brown belt) from Konno after having been training there for only a few months. I came to think, that Konno is rewarding his students on grounds of defamation instead of ability and skill in the dojo. In that case, you should be awarded a 10th dan in defamation. It is strange how easy ranks are handed out to people who are only interested in misconduct and publishing defamation on the Internet. Even when being admonished never to do this again. And even when your sites containing such kind of defamation is removed by the hosting provider, you still continue your ridiculous crusade. You obviously do not care about rules, respect, facts or the truth, even though you are aware of the truth. I certainly pity you. Peter Lee 5 July 2005 22:01 (UTC)
- Well, you call it "defamation". If it is, then it's only yourself who is defaming you. You are responsible for your own actions Peter. Don't hold me responsible for it. I am only the messenger, telling the people about your (true) skills and knowledge. Since you call yourself a teacher, people are entitled to know the truth, so they are warned... The only disgrace here is you. But I have told you that before.
- I was awarded 3rd kyu after a good half year of training under sensei Konno. You were rightly informed about that. But was the informant also aware of my previous achievements? I don't think so... I already started karate at age 15 (in 1987) at the Pierre Zenden Sportschool in Maastricht, where I trained Shotokan. I went the normal way to 4th kyu (KBN) in about 3 years. Then I stopped. I joined on and off several karate clubs and other martial arts in Maastricht, The Hague, Geneva and Tucson (Arizona, USA) in a time where I moved a lot (because of studying). So in fact I went under sensei Konno from 4th kyu to 3th kyu. Nothing special about that... Not like you, going from blue belt to 4th dan in once...
- Yes, it's indeed very strange how easy ranks are handed out to people who are only interested in misconduct and publishing defamation on the Internet. I discovered how easy that is when I learned how you got your 4th and 5th dan... So you know everything about how easy that is... My plan is to walk the normal, hard way. I won't buy my dan in Asia, but I want to be recognized by the KBN... -- MarioR 5 July 2005 23:11 (UTC)
MORE LIES
You know very well, that your conducts here are misconduct, and your actions and inclusions constitute defamation in the first degree. Jeremy removed my personal page, and without any respect whatsoever, you once again just wrote a hole new page with more lies from top to bottom. You simply write another bunch of lies there. YOU are certainly a disgrace to everything that has anything to do with the martial arts in general.
NOW, once again I will try to talk some sence into you. At the moment I am constraining myself very hard, because I believe that other people will close you down. If they will not (and you can take this in any way you like), I will make sure, that all my research and all the collected evidence is put on the Internet, no matter how incriminating it may be to you or any other whom you call your friends or teachers. And you see, it will be legal for me to do so, as I have the evidence to back it up. One thing I have learned (something I believe you can never learn) in the aspect of the research I have conducted, is, that I first thought it easy to write about the history of Genseiryu. Unfortunately it is not. If I should write the clean bare truth without respect to anyone, then many people would suffer greatly. Including the people you adhere to. So for this reason I have published only neutral, many times over verified articles on my homepage. Whenever just a small shred of doubt existed, or it was impossible to find independant verifications on the matter at hand, I would refrain from publishing it. That was more than 10 years ago. Since then I conducted more research now totalling about 16 years, interviews with almost everyone in Denmark/Europe and Japan having anything to do with Genseiryu in some way or another. I have learned, that research is not all. I have some decency in me. That decency and a minimum of human respect for the people involved, have kept me from publishing anymore than I have already done. I did not want to start any wars or to simply step hard on people who was already lying down, even though I certainly have all the evidence to back it up. I believe that such a war would damage Genseiryu more than it could ever justify such a war. Something which you clearly do not understand. Now you have started this war, so in order to protect Genseiryu, and because I believe that most people has something good in them, I have tried to stop you by talking to both you and the people cabeable to stop you at various free Internet resources, but obviously you are not acceptable to any kind of reason. So perhaps you should consider once again what it actually is you are doing. I wait for your reply. Peter Lee 5 July 2005 23:55 (UTC)
- Peter, I (we) never started any war. YOU have started it already years ago. We are just finishing it! You truely never had any decency in you, as is shown on your forum that's full of name slandering, false allegations and lies. It's also shown in the fact that you have been kicked out of at least 2 different karate schools and recently even out of the Danish Karate Federation. Don't you lecture me about decency... That's like the devil lecturing about "doing a good deed"...
- PLEASE, now finally come up with your so called "evidences"!!! YOU DON'T HAVE ANY!!! Your "16 years of research" is only 16 years of B.S. We have asked you so many times to show the evidences, but you never did. Hiding behind stupid excuses. First it was because you wanted at least 2 independent people that could confirm the evidences... Then it was because you wanted to write a book and publishing it too early would cause you to lose money... Now it's because you had/have 'dencency'??? Come on... Everybody who is into this subject deeply can see this is just another of your lies and again one of your stupid contradictions! Show us the evidences. Get this over with or just stop all the allegations and slandering of names of well respected people... You can't damage Genseiryu any more as you have done already!!!
- Peter, you have never talked to me. You didn't even try! You have insulted me, you have slandered my name, you have threatened me, you have ignored me, but you have never TALKED to me! I however tried to be open for discussion. I have tried to talk with you on your forum. But every time I did that, you either twisted all my words or you just deleted it, and eventually you even banned me from your forum for writing honest, factual details about Rengoukai and Genseiryu. That's not talking! Maybe you should take a course in "Communication skills" for you have absolutely no idea what "talking" means...
- I know what I am doing. Telling everybody who you really are: a phoney karate teacher with a big mouth... More and more people are gathering behind me, not closing me down but encircling me, helping me and supporting me! You know that and it scares you shitless. Pick up your normal life again and simply stop all your allegations and false information on your forum. Then we will stop warning others for you and you can go on teaching innocent little children who don't know you have bought your dan degrees! -- MarioR 6 July 2005 00:46 (UTC)
YOU ASTONISH ME ONCE AGAIN
Should I be afraid. HA, that is the best joke I have heard for years. That was a good one. Now, for more than 15 years, I have been fighting and winning the fight against people like you in Denmark. YOU are nothing special. On the contrary. Your kind of personality is something which I have been fighting for years in Denmark now. AND I have won. Not because I am big, strong, tough or rich or whatever, but because the truth will always win eventually. The same thing applies to this ridiculous fight with you. Years ago, a few students of Konno did the exact same thing as you are now doing. I find it funny, that you have not been informed by them about this. It must be very important to have offered you this information indeed. The thing is, that in Denmark, the problem solved itself, as the people involved finally learned, that their conduct fell back on themself. That day will also come to you. Should it not, then it will be too late for you. There are only 2 scenarios for you. One is that you finally see the truth and stop your misconduct and defamation. The other is your complete annihilation together with the people or teachers you claim to work for. I have tried this kind of ridiculous war many times before. But you see, I am NOT afraid, simply because I am still here. And I am prospering like never before. You can continue your ways, your misconduct and your defamation. But the fact is, that as long as you do that, I of course will defend myself, but you will also continue to bring more damage both to yourself and to your teachers (Konno etc.) as well as Genseiryu in general. You obviously is not intelligent enough to figure this out for yourself (even though I tried to hint you on this matter many times before, also through private e-mails as you know). So now I have explained it in clear text to you. Peter Lee 6 July 2005 01:08 (UTC)
- I find it rather interesting Peter, that you say that you have fought people like me all the time... So apparently I am not the only one trying to show who you really are? You mean there were actually others, even in Denmark, that wanted to show that you are nothing but a fake teacher, who buys his dan degrees? Of course I knew there were people in Holland that tried it before me. But since you are so nasty and persistent (like gum on your shoe), people stop after a while. It's no use anyway... But I think there's a use in continuing: bring you finally to a complete stop! Like I said, it has been going on too long already. Now you have found somebody who does NOT fall for your empty threats! You have a big mouth for somebody holding pretty bad cards... You have bluffed around with your prices (of minor championships), about your dan degrees (bought in Asia) and about your DKF membership (where you were kicked out). Now show me your cards... "I call you"... -- MarioR 6 July 2005 01:29 (UTC) P.S.: "you IS not intelligent enough..."??? :-)) LOL!!!