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I refuse to edit war with him in the article or interact with him anymore at all ''until others are willing to opine on all this with some understanding of the issues.'' (Which the editor in the “informal mediation” unfortunately did lack.) Any advice on what to do? Is there anything you - or I - can do to bring other admins into this issue? [[User:Carolmooredc|CarolMooreDC]] ([[User talk:Carolmooredc|talk]]) 18:44, 25 November 2009 (UTC) |
I refuse to edit war with him in the article or interact with him anymore at all ''until others are willing to opine on all this with some understanding of the issues.'' (Which the editor in the “informal mediation” unfortunately did lack.) Any advice on what to do? Is there anything you - or I - can do to bring other admins into this issue? [[User:Carolmooredc|CarolMooreDC]] ([[User talk:Carolmooredc|talk]]) 18:44, 25 November 2009 (UTC) |
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:MS wrote on my talk page ''I'll see if I can help with the article during the coming week or two.'' That would be great, since the Wikietiquette alert has just turned into "ban them both" opinion by one editor. [[Talk:Gilad_Atzmon#10.2F23_changes_to_politics:_Please_share_your_criticisms_too]] and [[Talk:Gilad_Atzmon#Do_sources_say_criticism_of_Zionism_led_to_charges_of_antisemitism.3F]] are the two main discussions still in play. It might help if you'd mention your interest in re-commenting on the talk page in the near future. Thanks. [[User:Carolmooredc|CarolMooreDC]] ([[User talk:Carolmooredc|talk]]) 14:55, 1 December 2009 (UTC) |
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Thank you. Not knowing WP:Manual of Style (biographies)#Academic titles, I had recently seen cases that broke it and thought I should try keep such application equal. Bless you for WP:AGFing!
Warmest Regards, :)--thecurran let it off your chest 01:33, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
Not sure what you're referring to
Regarding "BLP language", Carol has been using similar language against me in talk pages, and throughout that talk page for close to a year. Regardless, that section is entirely for a third party to chime in, so it would help if it were simply 3 parties. Drsmoo (talk) 05:14, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
- What do you consider inaccurate about that? Statements about Jews controlling the world, and "Jewish ideology" (a nazi idea) leading to a world catastrophe, saying the Protocols of the Elders of Zion are accurate among a million other Nazi inspired comments. The guy pals around with Paul Eisen and Israel Shamir as well. There's nothing innacurate about that whatsoever. Drsmoo (talk) 05:31, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
- If I provide a notable source is that better? What is this world coming to when we're not allowed to call someone who says "Jewish ideology is driving our planet into a catastrophe" an antisemite? You tell me. Atzmon refers to himself as a "proud self hating Jew" is that quote acceptable? Drsmoo (talk) 05:51, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
- I'm asking you quite seriously and honestly, I'm not making a wisecrack and I'm hoping you won't interpret my tone as being something it's not. Please give me your opinion on this question honestly. If a person refers to himself as a "proud self hating Jew" and says that Judaism is equal to Nazism, and that Jews are trying to rule the world, and that Jewish ideology is leading the world to a catastrophe. Why is it wrong to refer to that person as an antisemite, which is defined as someone who is anti-Jewish? Drsmoo (talk) 06:06, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
Stereotypes of white people
You might want to check out this edit, since you would probably be able to judge better than I whether all of the sources are valid. It does appear to be original content rather than a restoration of an earlier-deleted or reverted version of the page, so it would appear that Ms. Black Gold simply made a very large edit all at once. -- Soap Talk/Contributions 01:07, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
Doesn't this qualify as the blatant and obvious misinformation part of g3? The article was created in April—well before the debut of the current season of CSI—and yet there are no other articles that link to it, nor evidence of the episode's existence on a simple search.[1] I really don't think this clear hoax needs an AfD. —LOL T/C 08:25, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
- No worries... I wish the g3 template had a parameter for a small explanation. Thanks for the quick response. :) —LOL T/C 08:48, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
Deletion and transfer page
I started the move. I wanted to move "Pickled tofu" to "Fermented bean curd", but both pages already existed so I began the A>C,delete B,C>B, delete A process. The reason for move is that http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/cms_ia/importalert_73.html and my visits to various Chinatowns suggest that the more common English translation of this tasty food item is Fermented bean curd and not pickled tofu. 368,000 Google results for fermented bean curd vs. 8,260 for "pickled tofu."
The problem is that I am having trouble adding my request to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_moves/current as the bot there repeatly deletes my request without reason. Have I made an error in the code? I am confused and frustrated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hmm... (talk • contribs) 20:38, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
User:Bus stop and "ethnic Jews" again
Hi Malik Shabazz,
User:Bus stop is again creating lengthy disputes regarding the term "ethnic Jew", here. I though you might have some helpful insight as to what to do next. Cheers. Jayjg (talk) 21:46, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
- Enjoy your vacation! Jayjg (talk) 01:36, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
- And also look carefully: there are NO "…disputes regarding the term ethnic Jew…" until Jayjg takes it upon himself to initiate an edit-war over a sentence which had been under discussion for 3 hours on that article's Talk page before Jayjg intervened. Did Jayjg use that Talk page prior to making his two edit-warring edits to that sentence? Absolutely not. That sentence contained the term "ethnic Jew." But I made no edit to that term, not until Jayjg unilaterally started to make edits to that sentence. That was a deliberate and provocative act and it was not initiated by me. Now Jayjg would like to pin blame on me for being present when he chose to bypass an obvious discussion going on. Nope. That is provocative. That is not the way administrators should act. An administrator should not be in the business of short-circuiting the dialogue that lends the camaraderie to this, an eminently collaborative project. Jayjg -- your acts were blatantly provocative. Think about your own actions.
- And bear in mind that I too am an editor. You may be an administrator. Malik Shabazz may be an administrator too. But when I use the Talk page of an article I should be given the consideration of my input as an editor. You both may not agree with some of my ideas. But please do not abuse your power. Power abuse is ugly. No? Bus stop (talk) 02:48, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
can you comment
here ? Slrubenstein | Talk 09:31, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
Help with Gilad Atzmon?
I have noticed your complaints vs. Drsmoo for edit warrning and that you had threatened Drsmoo with a block for hostile remarks against Atzmon in your roll as an "administrator open to recall." You may not have noticed all of Drsmoo's long standing hostile and edit warring behavior on the article, which I just reported here Wikipedia:Wikiquette_alerts#User:Drsmoo. Note of course that this is just about the only article he edits on.
I know you've stated you are no fan of Atzmon, but probably being the Admin who lately has reverted questionable edits and opinions of his on the article and talk page, I'd think you might have some opinion on his questionable editing habits I've complained about repeatedly:repeated deletion of a one sentence defense of Atzmon from an article containing criticism; deletion of a second party writers opinion as not WP:RS - even as he cherry picks Atzmon's quotes from that very article!; other WP:OR use of sources; use of an irrelevant wikilink to "Paranoid Style in American Politics"; and of course edit warring to make sure his version on any issue is usually the last one standing.
I have had to go repeatedly to at least one half dozen edit boards for separate opinions, since no one watching the article bothers to opine. And even then he follows me to every board - including the Wikiquette Alert one - and throws up a smokescreen of accusations against me, and sometimes Atzmon, which he rarely supports with diffs because they are minor or nonexistent. But these accusations seem to effectively squelch any comment - unless wikipedia is so broken no one comments much on anything anymore.
I refuse to edit war with him in the article or interact with him anymore at all until others are willing to opine on all this with some understanding of the issues. (Which the editor in the “informal mediation” unfortunately did lack.) Any advice on what to do? Is there anything you - or I - can do to bring other admins into this issue? CarolMooreDC (talk) 18:44, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
- MS wrote on my talk page I'll see if I can help with the article during the coming week or two. That would be great, since the Wikietiquette alert has just turned into "ban them both" opinion by one editor. Talk:Gilad_Atzmon#10.2F23_changes_to_politics:_Please_share_your_criticisms_too and Talk:Gilad_Atzmon#Do_sources_say_criticism_of_Zionism_led_to_charges_of_antisemitism.3F are the two main discussions still in play. It might help if you'd mention your interest in re-commenting on the talk page in the near future. Thanks. CarolMooreDC (talk) 14:55, 1 December 2009 (UTC)