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Thank you, tireless contributor in several languages, for quality articles on Greek politics and the people behind it, |
Thank you, tireless contributor in several languages, for quality articles on Greek politics and the people behind it, for cleaning up {{diff|Te Deum in C|582656562||little mistakes we carelessly make}} and bigger ones, and for your interest in [[User:WOSlinker/Infoboxes|standard infobox parameters]], - you are an [[User:Gerda Arendt/PumpkinSky Prize|awesome Wikipedian]]! |
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--[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 11:47, 21 November 2013 (UTC) |
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New checkwiki page.
New Checkwiki.... Information is located here. Could you take a look and report and bugs you find... also any suggestions, ideas for new bug reports, current bug reports that should be removed or anything else you can think. I'm sending a message to Meno25, GoingBatty, NicoV and Tim Landscheidt. If you can think of anybody else, could you send them a message. -- -Bgwhite (talk) 06:17, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
CHECKWIKI October 2013
Error fixing improves
- rev 9532 does a bit of CHECKWIKI error 69 (ISBN wrong syntax)
- rev 9534 improves CHECKWIKI error 76 fixing (Link with no space)
- rev 9536 improves CHECKWIKI error 69 fixing (ISBN wrong syntax) -- Magioladitis (talk) 12:14, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
- Last one reverted till we find a more tighten logic for this. -- Magioladitis (talk) 06:24, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
- rev 9559 inmproves CHECKWIKI error 64 fixing (simplify wikilinks) by extending logic to redirects. -- Magioladitis (talk) 11:52, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
{{sfn}}, {{efn}} and refpunc
- AWB converted
.{{sfn}}{{sfn}}<ref />{{sfn}}.
->.{{sfn}}{{sfn}}.<ref />{{sfn}}
Any reason why AWB did remove the period instead of removing it? Checkwiki is not currently searching for sfn and efn templates. Bgwhite (talk) 01:01, 16 October 2013 (UTC)- rev 9541 RefsAfterPunctuation to handle {{sfn}}. -- Magioladitis (talk) 06:09, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
Special characters in sortkey
Didn't like § in Sahoyúé-§ehdacho Bgwhite (talk) 08:40, 19 October 2013 (UTC)
- Bgwhite I just noticed this one. What is the correct letter to use instead? S? We may need to treat this manually. I can't believe that using the section sign as a letter is a common situation. -- Magioladitis (talk) 05:44, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
Didn't like ḩ in Al Luḩayyah Bgwhite (talk) 20:23, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
- Letters using cedilla sign: rev 9557 -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:13, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
Web link codes
AWB doesn't convert certain web link codes. See All Happy Families... Bgwhite (talk) 08:02, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
- Bgwhite what do you mean "web link codes"? What is the expected behaviour? -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:17, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
- Open it up in AWB and you will see. Its similar to the %20. Bgwhite (talk) 08:19, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
- You are right. It should convert .26 to "&" and .22 to straight quote. -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:30, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
- I don't remember seeing alot these before, but I've seen quite a few the past two days. Found my favourite just now, List of government bonds#.C2.A0Germany .28AAA.2FAaa.29 Bgwhite (talk) 05:41, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
- Please report it at WP:AWB/B by noting the various cases we need to take care of. -- Magioladitis (talk) 05:47, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
- Storing the ones I find here:
- Please report it at WP:AWB/B by noting the various cases we need to take care of. -- Magioladitis (talk) 05:47, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
- I don't remember seeing alot these before, but I've seen quite a few the past two days. Found my favourite just now, List of government bonds#.C2.A0Germany .28AAA.2FAaa.29 Bgwhite (talk) 05:41, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
- You are right. It should convert .26 to "&" and .22 to straight quote. -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:30, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
- Open it up in AWB and you will see. Its similar to the %20. Bgwhite (talk) 08:19, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
Prosecution of Fazıl Say - Fazıl_Say#Prosecution_for_.22insulting_Islam.22 (note: what is on page, isn't what source says)
Timeline of prehistoric Scotland - La Tène style#La T.C3.A8ne style
Psyche (psychology)#Jung.27s_definitions of .E2.80.9Cpsyche.E2.80.9D_and .22soul.22 - Waiting for Godot
Visa policy of Australia#eVisitor .28Subclass 651.29 Visa policy of Australia#eVisitor .28Subclass 651.29 - Tourism in Australia
World War II#War breaks out in Europe .281939.E2.80.9340.29 Octavia Butler#Lilith.27s Brood - Timeline of science fiction
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Bgwhite #16 eeror detection must be extended to check for \u2028 (line separator). -- Magioladitis (talk) 23:02, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
Error #03 and #61 changes
@NicoV:
I've made changes both to errors #03 and #61.
- On the translation pages, you can now add templates for errors #03, #61, #67 and #78. enwiki currently has #03 and #61 listed with templates.
- The whitelist articles get wiped from the database and re-added everyday at 0Z. Figure whitelist articles will be added and deleted quite a bit. The templates are currently not deleted. At the moment, I've got templates from too many wikis to add them to the various Translation files.
- On #03, this will hopefully fix bug report #3 arwiki. I've got a bug in the database where it thinks "references" and "références" are the same word and won't allow both to be added.
- On #61, I've totally redone the code to allow templates.
Bgwhite (talk) 00:10, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
- Not sure if it's directly relevant, but where there are two or more
{{sfn}}
together, Yobot is moving the punctuation to a position between them, as here. --Redrose64 (talk) 15:52, 7 November 2013 (UTC)- @Redrose64: rev 9607 fixes the bug. Thanks for the report. -- Magioladitis (talk) 16:50, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks... will 9607 also fix this problem? Here, (search for "delayed this until 28 July,.") a period was moved before the
<ref name=BLM3S />
so that it followed a comma directly. --Redrose64 (talk) 00:20, 8 November 2013 (UTC)- @Redrose64: It won't. The bot can't decide which punctuation of the to is correct. I have seen cases where the point prevails and cases where the comma does. This needs manual attention but still it is easier to spot the problem is two punctuation marks are one next to the other. -- Magioladitis (talk) 11:27, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks... will 9607 also fix this problem? Here, (search for "delayed this until 28 July,.") a period was moved before the
- @Redrose64: rev 9607 fixes the bug. Thanks for the report. -- Magioladitis (talk) 16:50, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
Books and Bytes: The Wikipedia Library Newsletter
Volume 1, Issue 1, October 2013
by The Interior (talk · contribs), Ocaasi (talk · contribs)
Greetings Wikipedia Library members! Welcome to the inaugural edition of Books and Bytes, TWL’s monthly newsletter. We're sending you the first edition of this opt-in newsletter, because you signed up, or applied for a free research account: HighBeam, Credo, Questia, JSTOR, or Cochrane. To receive future updates of Books and Bytes, please add your name to the subscriber's list. There's lots of news this month for the Wikipedia Library, including new accounts, upcoming events, and new ways to get involved...
New positions: Sign up to be a Wikipedia Visiting Scholar, or a Volunteer Wikipedia Librarian
Wikipedia Loves Libraries: Off to a roaring start this fall in the United States: 29 events are planned or have been hosted.
New subscription donations: Cochrane round 2; HighBeam round 8; Questia round 4... Can we partner with NY Times and Lexis-Nexis??
New ideas: OCLC innovations in the works; VisualEditor Reference Dialog Workshop; a photo contest idea emerges
News from the library world: Wikipedian joins the National Archives full time; the Getty Museum releases 4,500 images; CERN goes CC-BY
Announcing WikiProject Open: WikiProject Open kicked off in October, with several brainstorming and co-working sessions
New ways to get involved: Visiting scholar requirements; subject guides; room for library expansion and exploration
Read the full newsletter
Thanks for reading! All future newsletters will be opt-in only. Have an item for the next issue? Leave a note for the editor on the Suggestions page. --The Interior 20:37, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
CHECKWIKI script
Hey, I was wondering if you could share your CHECKWIKI script with me. I'd like to help out with the maintenance and the special script that I noticed Bgwhite was using did many things at once; many not in AWB's general fixes. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 21:21, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
- ChrisGualtieri there is not a real CHECKWIKI script. We just use AWB and do general fixes to the changes given to use by the Labs server. User:Magioladitis/AWB and CHECKWIKI provides some Modules, regexes and suggestions how to fix certain errors not fixed by general fixes or how to establish some skipping conditions. A full script is still (and may always be) under construction. -- Magioladitis (talk) 21:27, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
Curious greetings
Hello Magioladitis. By some manner of bug, a Huggle edit I had made to revert vandalism instead reverted Cluebot and only 1 of the three IP edits. The clean version was an edit by you, and I restored it based mainly on my knowledge of your account. I am curious of how closely you reviewed the article because I find it terrible; yet I am reluctant to look past your version without first asking you if I am missing something. Am I?—John Cline (talk) 08:43, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
- @John Cline: Hi and thanks for contacting. I haven't really reviewed this article. I usually fix common and easy to spot syntax errors. There are dozens of pages with inappropriate or unencyclopaedic writing in Wikipedia at the moment. I spend some time in reviewing but it is impossible to copyedit every single page. This is the reason communication and collaboration is indicated :) Keep up the good work. We need editors that look pages into detail. -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:53, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
- We conflicted edits while I was otherwise adding an addendum regarding the irony that both Ohconfucius and Materialscientist had endorsed the version which I restored; leading me to wonder aloud; if we are becoming too perfunctory in our manner of performing article maintenance? Or am I wrong that it nearly requires a rewrite? By the way, I agree fully with the sentiments in your reply, appreciating them very much. I have great wiki respect for all three users pinged in this thread, and I hope that you each understand that I only asked this question, with additional pings, out of respect, and anticipation of great answers.—John Cline (talk) 09:25, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
- I did not deliberately set out to endorse the previous edit. In fact, I only quickly scanned it. I guess that's one of the problems working from Recent changes. Following up on recent changes is probably best suited to vandalism patrols, and I should pull from another worklist. -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 09:28, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
Putting more than 25k articles into AWB
I need to perform a check on the category "Low-importance_United_States_articles", but when I put it into AWB I only get 25,000 results. How can I get the entire list? I will also need the NA importance one as well. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 23:11, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
- @ChrisGualtieri: Have you tried the NoLimits plugin? -- Magioladitis (talk) 03:37, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
- I am not an admin and I do not have a bot account or flag. Could I request the API permission or could I get the listing from the toolserver in a txt format? ChrisGualtieri (talk) 23:15, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
- @ChrisGualtieri: I am not sure who can give you API permission. -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:56, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
- I am not an admin and I do not have a bot account or flag. Could I request the API permission or could I get the listing from the toolserver in a txt format? ChrisGualtieri (talk) 23:15, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
CHECKWIKI November 2013
Error #2
- For error #2, AWB was not picking up errors between the / and >. Examples: <br /\>, <br /2> and <br /•> Bgwhite (talk) 22:41, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
- Bgwhite in fact AWB is picking some errors just to be on the same side. Did you notice any of them being slightly common? I could add it to AWB's list. -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:39, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
- rev 9697 for <br /2> and <br /•>. -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:49, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
- There were about 20 cases where something was between the / and >. This included numbers and punctuation. <br /•> was only one case and it was mistyped... There was a list that contained 20 lines that had <br/>•, but a line was mistyped with <br /•> Bgwhite (talk) 02:44, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
- Now we fix all numbers and letters inside <br />. -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:21, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
- There were about 20 cases where something was between the / and >. This included numbers and punctuation. <br /•> was only one case and it was mistyped... There was a list that contained 20 lines that had <br/>•, but a line was mistyped with <br /•> Bgwhite (talk) 02:44, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
- rev 9697 for <br /2> and <br /•>. -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:49, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
- Bgwhite in fact AWB is picking some errors just to be on the same side. Did you notice any of them being slightly common? I could add it to AWB's list. -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:39, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
Error #3
- Increase of error #3 is due to not detecting redirects of reflist
- I see you converted the redirects. Should I add the redirect to checkwiki or convert them. {{ref list}} is in about 300 articles. Bgwhite (talk) 00:44, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
- I did "ref list" too. -- Magioladitis (talk) 01:53, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
- All redirects to articles converted. -- Magioladitis (talk) 16:55, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
- I did "ref list" too. -- Magioladitis (talk) 01:53, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
- I see you converted the redirects. Should I add the redirect to checkwiki or convert them. {{ref list}} is in about 300 articles. Bgwhite (talk) 00:44, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
Error #6
- Fixed a #6 related bug at rev 9617. Bgwhite -- Magioladitis (talk) 01:33, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
- Second time I've come across the ẻ as in Tuổi Trẻ. AWB doesn't recognized it. Bgwhite (talk) 07:55, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
- rev 9618 -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:25, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
Error #16
- I asked the help of Carlossuarez46 for fixing error 16
Error 37
- rev 9703 covers letters with hook. -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:11, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
- rev 9706 Letters using ogonek sign. -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:51, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
- rev 9707 Letters using inverted breve. -- Magioladitis (talk) 10:02, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
- rev 9708 Letters using comma sign. -- Magioladitis (talk) 10:29, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
- rev 9709 Letters using retroflex hook sign. -- Magioladitis (talk) 10:37, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
Error #61
- AWB fix for multiple sfn and punctuation issue. rev 9607
- Bgwhite maybe #61 needs to expand further to catch in-line templates? Check Wikipedia_talk:AutoWikiBrowser/Feature_requests#Expand RefsAfterPunctuation for use with inline templates. -- Magioladitis (talk)
- @GoingBatty:. It is already set up for it. Just add the templates to the Translation file. {{sfn}} and its derivatives, plus {{refn}} are already there. I had {{efn}} listed as well, but that caused problems. The efn templates can have templates inside itself. Bgwhite (talk) 22:41, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
- Excuse my newbie questions, but does AWB standard functionality call this Translation file, or do you need to load a module to enable it? Is it OK to add other non-reference inline templates here (e.g. {{citation needed}}), or will that cause problems? Is there documentation on this file? Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 00:38, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
- GoingBatty, sorry, this is for CheckWiki and not AWB. I saw you filed the original AWB feature report about this and thought I'd ping you. Once something gets in Checkwiki, Magioladitis or Rj gains motivation to find a fix (except for a nowiki problem, hint, hint). I added {{sfn}} into CheckWiki and two weeks later Magioladitis adds it into AWB. As Magioladitis essentially lives on a nice Mediterranean beach, you have to get him really motivated for him to do something. I'll add the other templates into Checkwiki that you listed in the feature report. Hopefully somebody will get motivated. Bgwhite (talk) 07:13, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
- Excuse my newbie questions, but does AWB standard functionality call this Translation file, or do you need to load a module to enable it? Is it OK to add other non-reference inline templates here (e.g. {{citation needed}}), or will that cause problems? Is there documentation on this file? Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 00:38, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
- @GoingBatty:. It is already set up for it. Just add the templates to the Translation file. {{sfn}} and its derivatives, plus {{refn}} are already there. I had {{efn}} listed as well, but that caused problems. The efn templates can have templates inside itself. Bgwhite (talk) 22:41, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
General
- Bgwhite I think the lists till last month did not contain duplicates. Now they do. -- Magioladitis (talk) 01:13, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
- They have always reported duplicates. Look at the of #10. In most, but not all cases, Checkwiki reports every error. If there are 5 broken brackets for error #10 in one article, it reports all 5. I output this to log files and this is what I put up on the AWB_CHECKWIKI dumps. When Checkwiki on labs gets done, it also outputs to the database. Only one error per error # for an article is put into the database. This is done so daily scans don't keep putting in the same errors in an article into the database over an over again. Bgwhite (talk) 06:48, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
- Bgwhite 12 is being cleanup by Friejtes, GoingBatty presented a new list of a minor problem at User:GoingBatty/Main articles, 71 has very few items. Any plans for the next 10 days of the month? -- Magioladitis (talk) 01:10, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
- I'm currently helping out Tito Dutta and his friends on getting a wikipedia site up and going... http://sarkarverse.org Mediawiki documentation is horrible and out of date. I don't know how long I'll be at it, but probably the rest of the week. Next week is Thanksgiving in the U.S. I'm cooking alot of the meal for my wife's family. So, next week I won't have much time. I have to address some issues on checkwiki's talk page before the next dump. I'm trying to stay on top of daily errors. Bgwhite (talk) 01:35, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
- Bgwhite can you please find some time for 71? I hope we can beat 12 and I am looking forward for next month's dump. till now we have not managed to have comparable results due to changes to our detection method. -- Magioladitis (talk) 01:42, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
- I'm currently helping out Tito Dutta and his friends on getting a wikipedia site up and going... http://sarkarverse.org Mediawiki documentation is horrible and out of date. I don't know how long I'll be at it, but probably the rest of the week. Next week is Thanksgiving in the U.S. I'm cooking alot of the meal for my wife's family. So, next week I won't have much time. I have to address some issues on checkwiki's talk page before the next dump. I'm trying to stay on top of daily errors. Bgwhite (talk) 01:35, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
- Bgwhite I wonder if now we can run the script on the lists of errors marked as "bot" to check what was left to be done manually. -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:32, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
- Which errors do you want first? Bgwhite (talk) 07:35, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
- Bgwhite by order of importance (or how easy I can fix them): 44, 37, 48, 86, 64, 65. -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:37, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
- 44 and 48 are up on the AWB_CHECKWIKI page. I already ran 37 and you don't want to see it. Will get the other 3 tomorrow. Bgwhite (talk) 08:35, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
- Bgwhite I did 44. I almost did 48. there were many redirects with bad syntax. -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:16, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
- I just put 64 up. All articles still remain for 65. 86 will be up in a few minutes. Bgwhite (talk) 22:22, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
- 86 didn't have any article remaining. I did put up #80. Bgwhite (talk) 22:42, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
- Bgwhite Some redirects on 64 too. If there are any interesting cases still there we may need to record them and see if we can add some kind of general fix in AWB. It seems the idea of running the bots in all lists and then check of what remained unfixed to be a good one :) -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:48, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
- I just put 64 up. All articles still remain for 65. 86 will be up in a few minutes. Bgwhite (talk) 22:22, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
- Bgwhite by order of importance (or how easy I can fix them): 44, 37, 48, 86, 64, 65. -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:37, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
- Which errors do you want first? Bgwhite (talk) 07:35, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
Removal of category 'Music bio" from Michael Johnathon page
Why?1archie99 (talk) 18:19, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
- @1archie99: (Edit in question) Actually "music bio" is a stub template not a category and it was removed from the article because the article was too large to be considered a stub. The edit also made the references go before punctuation according to WP:REFPUNC. --Meno25 (talk) 18:49, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
Yobot approval?
Can I ask a possibly stupid question? The bot seems to be performing many tasks (mostly well by the look of it) but the only bot approval that I can find is this one where only two specific tasks appear to have been approved way back in 2008. Does this need updating or is there another approval somewhere? Its current run seems to be concentrating on the WP:REFPUNCT guideline which I guess a lot of editors don't agree with (I do BTW). Thanks Nimbus (Cumulus nimbus floats by) 00:00, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
- Nimbus Hi. thanks for the communication. You can find in User:Yobot#Approved_tasks a full list of the approved tasks. The question is not stupid. The problem is that the tasks were approved in many parts. I myself get confused sometimes. The one on the punctuation is Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Yobot 16. The main problem you'll need to solve though is not the bot task but the consensus on WP:REFPUNCT. My bot and any bot usually follows a guideline. If this changes the bot changes task. Stopping, reverting a bot without fixing the reason the bot works won't bring anything. -- Magioladitis (talk) 00:20, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
- Right thanks. In the 'nutshell' box at the top of the bot user page is where the old approval is, the current approvals are at section 6, perhaps the nutshell box can be updated with a link to these if it is not too difficult? As far as refpunct goes it's a complicated guideline, I was just concerned that citations were moving in front of full stops which is what the edit summary says it is doing (which it is apparently not after close scrutiny and squinting at little dots in many diffs on my laptop!). Nimbus (Cumulus nimbus floats by) 00:31, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
Edits that make no difference
Is this a useful edit? The edit summary certainly isn't. SpinningSpark 00:48, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
- Spinningspark, Yobot was running on a list of ISBN problems. There is a problem in the article, see my edit just after Yobot's. Looks like Yobot's regex needs to be adjusted to account for - . Bgwhite (talk) 02:00, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
Dispute (josve05a vs Yobot)
I did this edit to fix DEFAULTSORT with special characters and your bot changed it back. Who is right? -(t) Josve05a (c) 22:04, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
- I'll have a look. -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:09, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
- I think that Yobot was in error here, since it changed a hyphen-minus to an en-dash. --Redrose64 (talk) 00:12, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
- You are right. I'll fix it. -- Magioladitis (talk) 00:35, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
- rev 9617 I fixed it. -- Magioladitis (talk) 01:10, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
- You are right. I'll fix it. -- Magioladitis (talk) 00:35, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
- I think that Yobot was in error here, since it changed a hyphen-minus to an en-dash. --Redrose64 (talk) 00:12, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
Gimme more work!
I want to do more fixes, but looks like I ran out. Got a list I can do? Or save sum up for me? ChrisGualtieri (talk) 02:11, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
- ChrisGualtieri We never run out of work. We have lists in labs and in the toolserver. -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:29, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
- Traitor! How dare you mention Toolserver. Does it catch anything that labs doesn't? If so, I'll have to look into why. Have you run the bot on #37, #59, #80 and #84? Having Checkwiki run against a list has been a great idea. On #6, after you ran the bot, I ran the articles again and it gave what had to be done manually. Saved alot of time. On #10, after I finished manually, I ran it again and picked up some that AWB didn't catch but Checkwiki did (involved nowiki), plus some that needed to be whitelisted. Great idea. Bgwhite (talk) 09:01, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
- In fact toolserver still catches some not found in the labs. -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:15, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
- Traitor! How dare you mention Toolserver. Does it catch anything that labs doesn't? If so, I'll have to look into why. Have you run the bot on #37, #59, #80 and #84? Having Checkwiki run against a list has been a great idea. On #6, after you ran the bot, I ran the articles again and it gave what had to be done manually. Saved alot of time. On #10, after I finished manually, I ran it again and picked up some that AWB didn't catch but Checkwiki did (involved nowiki), plus some that needed to be whitelisted. Great idea. Bgwhite (talk) 09:01, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
Formatting breaks browsers really unusual
I can't seem to fix Phineas Gage. I tried but I cannot.[1] Any ideas? ChrisGualtieri (talk) 08:26, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
- ChrisGualtieri Be warned, the editor has severe ownership issues and hates "gnomes and MOS Nazis". Look at the end of this page. I wager $10 that you will be reverted. Bgwhite (talk) 08:52, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
- ChrisGualtieri, sadly, you owe me $10. Bgwhite (talk) 06:17, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
- Never accepted! ^_^ ChrisGualtieri (talk) 00:04, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
- ChrisGualtieri, sadly, you owe me $10. Bgwhite (talk) 06:17, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
What place?
Where on an article should orphan and multiple issues be placed if an article has a proposed deletion tag? Above or below?
I know that one should problebly not add if the article is tagged/nominated, but I still wonder. -(t) Josve05a (c) 13:18, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
- There is no rule on the order of multiple issues and prod tag. -- Magioladitis (talk) 14:00, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
- Below, see MOS:LAYOUT#The lead section. This was discussed recently at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Layout#Putting deletion templates above maintenance tags. My own view is that the most important ones should be at the top; also, some of the deletion notices (but not the PROD one) have a comment at the bottom like
<!-- End of AfD message, feel free to edit beyond this point -->
which implies that you shouldn't put anything before the AfD message. --Redrose64 (talk) 23:34, 10 November 2013 (UTC)- FYI, AWB currently adds new maintenance templates or {{multiple issues}} above the deletion notices (try Rambilash Singh and Vuk Matic) and moves some templates above the deletion notices (moves {{dead end}} on Daniel Dugléry but not {{BLP unsourced}} in Pala K. M. Matthew), but it doesn't move existing multiple issues templates (try Kyle August Lind). GoingBatty (talk) 00:35, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
- Below, see MOS:LAYOUT#The lead section. This was discussed recently at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Layout#Putting deletion templates above maintenance tags. My own view is that the most important ones should be at the top; also, some of the deletion notices (but not the PROD one) have a comment at the bottom like
Questions
I was running AWB with skip if "only cosmetic changes are made" but it still seems to be hitting on whitespace ones like this.[2] I was doing CHECKWIKI 61 at the time. Any ideas? I got some people mad about fixing the redirected disamb pages by converting them to their full template as being "useless", but that's another matter which I feel that constantly having thousands of rarely edited disambiguation pages show up on my scanner vs just doing them and fixing it once and for all is a bit odd. It performs a function; its not breaking anything; and it makes it better - even in a small way. So I don't understand why they get upset. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 13:39, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
- ChrisGualtieri you need to check "skip if only whitespace changes" in addition to "only cosmetic changes are made" to get the wanted results. I know that this has the problem that sometimes whitespace should be removed and the page will be skipped. But it is difficult to have 100% control of this. I also don't understand why we should not improve some things around. The good thing with the full names is that I don't see red lines with my typo checker in my browser but not all people appropriate this. -- Magioladitis (talk) 14:05, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
- Ah okay. Thanks for answering. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 14:08, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
- Sorry to bug again, but I have skip for "Whitespace, casing and cosmetic" all checked and I am still getting changes to templates like DN to "Disambiguation needed" on articles like Daiei (era). Would this be acceptable or would it be "useless"? Yes I can manually skip all these, but when I reparse the list I'll have to manually skip them all again... and again... and again. Fixing it now means never seeing the error again. But I don't want to have my AWB taken away for the simple act of trying to streamline the maintenance tasks. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 16:39, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
- @ChrisGualtieri: - If I can put in my 2 cents, you'll upset some editors if the only thing you do in an AWB edit is template substitution. So try to find other things to improve at the same time, such as this edit to Daiei (era). Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 21:30, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
- Sorry to bug again, but I have skip for "Whitespace, casing and cosmetic" all checked and I am still getting changes to templates like DN to "Disambiguation needed" on articles like Daiei (era). Would this be acceptable or would it be "useless"? Yes I can manually skip all these, but when I reparse the list I'll have to manually skip them all again... and again... and again. Fixing it now means never seeing the error again. But I don't want to have my AWB taken away for the simple act of trying to streamline the maintenance tasks. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 16:39, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
- Ah okay. Thanks for answering. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 14:08, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
- After doing a batch of CHECKWIKI 61 fixes, my AWB right was taken away as a result of this post. I believe CHECKWIKI #61 which has MOS consensus, demonstrated by Yobot's runs are evidence it is a beneficial change. I've cited this discussion here and I'd like some input on this misunderstanding. I've not done the template substitutions given the comments from GoingBatty - it was the CHECKWIKI fixes which were declared as "controversial" and "useless" as a reason to remove it.[3] ChrisGualtieri (talk) 00:19, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
Bot Request
Hi. I'd appreciate your input regarding a recently approved Bot (and more particularly its proposed operator) in light of your previous comments, see my post at User talk:Josh Parris#Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Josvebot 5. WJBscribe (talk) 18:27, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
- WJBscribe thanks for the heads up. I expressed my opinion on the individual bot requests page. I had similar concerns. -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:54, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
%29
When a url has an ) in the link, would it not be a good idéa that AWB changes that to %29 ? Or is there some problems to implement that?
I know that this problebly should be on the features to be added page, but I felt like this was an easier way to comunicate faster. (Feel free to move this to it's right place if you want.) -(t) Josve05a (c) 21:56, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
- Like in this edit? -(t) Josve05a (c) 21:59, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
- Josve05a thanks for the feedback. There is a similar request at Wikipedia_talk:AutoWikiBrowser/Feature_requests#Handle_HTML_codes_in_wikilinks -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:48, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
- Josve05a's request is actually different to the one already at Feature's request page. Josve's request is in URLs while the other one is in Wikilinks. There are no documents that say encoding characters should be used at all in wikilinks. There are documents that say things must be encoded in URLs.
- Josve05a thanks for the feedback. There is a similar request at Wikipedia_talk:AutoWikiBrowser/Feature_requests#Handle_HTML_codes_in_wikilinks -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:48, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
- In HTML5. the only character that needs to be converted is space -> %20. This is one reason Wikipedia uses _ for space in the url links. RFC 3986 is the document that mentions ')' (See page 12). The "gen-delims" list contains characters that just should never be used in the url name, thus no reason to convert The "sub-delims" contains characters that can be used in an URL name, provided they are converted.
- However, in the real world, ')' and '(' are just fine to use. Why? RFC 3986 came out in 2005 and before 2005, ')' was fine to use without converting. Sites used it before 2005 and still do. Wikipedia is an example. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Smith_(explorer) or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Smith_(disambiguation). Bgwhite (talk) 23:35, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
In that case, AWB should not make an alert for unclosed brackets for ')' inside a url. -(t) Josve05a (c) 23:39, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
TfD closure process clarification
Hi, as somebody who has closed TfDs recently, this is to inform you of Wikipedia talk:Templates for discussion#Clarifying the closure process for all outcomes other than "keep". --Redrose64 (talk) 14:43, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
CHECKWIKI error 16
Hi Magioladitis. I noticed you've made the same change to a few of the articles I've created, with the description "Remove unicode control characters (CHECKWIKI error 16) using AWB (9689))". I've had a look at the edit but I can't see what's being changed - what's happening in these edits? I'd like to know so I can fix it up myself and save you some time! Terlob (talk) 11:42, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
- @Terlob: There was a "hidden/invincible" unicode character in that article, wich could cause errors to some browsers/platforms. See the CHECKWIKI-database for more information and articles that is curently known to have these kinds of characters.-(t) Josve05a (c) 11:46, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
Terlob it is impossible to detect an invisible character unless you know it is there. You can always run your own version of WP:AWB or any other program to improve the code syntax of the pages you create/improve/expand. -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:03, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
Cosmetic AWB edits
E.g. What are you trying to do here? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 00:19, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
- There was a request to fix pages with the string "Main articles" but there were some false positives. I just got rid of one. I was clueless but I now have a specific list to work with: User:GoingBatty/Main articles. Maybe you could help us in doing things like this one? -- Magioladitis (talk) 00:29, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
Disambiguation link fixing one-day contest
I have decided to put on a mini-contest within the November 2013 monthly disambiguation contest, on Saturday, November 23 (UTC). I will personally give a $20 Amazon.com gift card to the disambiguator who fixes the most links on that server-day (see the project page for details on scoring points). Since we are not geared up to do an automated count for that day, at 00:00, 23 November 2013 (UTC) (which is 7:00 PM on November 22, EST), I'll take a screenshot of the project page leaderboard. I will presume that anyone who is not already listed on the leaderboard has precisely nine edits. At 01:00, 24 November 2013 (UTC) (8:00 PM on November 23, EST), I'll take a screenshot of the leaderboard at that time (the extra hour is to give the board time to update), and I will determine from that who our winner is. I will credit links fixed by turning a WP:DABCONCEPT page into an article, but you'll have to let me know me that you did so. Here's to a fun contest. Note that according to the Daily Disambig, we currently have under 256,000 disambiguation links to be fixed. If everyone in the disambiguation link fixers category were to fix 500 links, we would have them all done - so aim high! Cheers! bd2412 T 02:57, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
T: template redirects
Hi, you participated in Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2009 October 20#T:ITNBOX and other Template redirects, some of which I have relisted at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2013 November_18#T:WPTECH. Please come along and share your thoughts .. ;-) John Vandenberg (chat) 15:32, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
Orphaned page
Hello!
I wanted to thank you for bringing my attention that my page was an orphan page. I wanted to ask how to fix this problem. I have looked at the links and criteria, but I am having a hard time finding how to address this issueLadeidramonetroberts (talk) 17:55, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
Precious
cleanup
Thank you, tireless contributor in several languages, for quality articles on Greek politics and the people behind it, for cleaning up little mistakes we carelessly make and bigger ones, and for your interest in standard infobox parameters, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:47, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
Gerda Arendt Wow! Thanks! -- Magioladitis (talk) 11:48, 21 November 2013 (UTC)