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:You have mentioned a good number of 'could have's, but you assume too much of me. I had not, in fact, known about user pages until that fateful night when I started clicking about to learn more of why I was being harangued, discovered the concept and decided to create one. I had not known about the ANI page until you decided to bring a case against me (to be honest, I still don't really understand that page, but one step at a time). I had not known about talk pages as messageboards until responses to your ANI post were made - prior to that I honestly believed it was just for auto-notifications of errors and page deletions. I may not be a newbie in terms of account duration, but I am a relative newbie in terms of experience and certainly regarding complete understanding of the depths of this site (similar to your admission above), so I understand that we all make mistakes. Moving forward, I'll not put nice little quick pleas in the Edit Summary: I'll use the talk pages. At the end of it, at least I have learnt some points from this. |
:You have mentioned a good number of 'could have's, but you assume too much of me. I had not, in fact, known about user pages until that fateful night when I started clicking about to learn more of why I was being harangued, discovered the concept and decided to create one. I had not known about the ANI page until you decided to bring a case against me (to be honest, I still don't really understand that page, but one step at a time). I had not known about talk pages as messageboards until responses to your ANI post were made - prior to that I honestly believed it was just for auto-notifications of errors and page deletions. I may not be a newbie in terms of account duration, but I am a relative newbie in terms of experience and certainly regarding complete understanding of the depths of this site (similar to your admission above), so I understand that we all make mistakes. Moving forward, I'll not put nice little quick pleas in the Edit Summary: I'll use the talk pages. At the end of it, at least I have learnt some points from this. |
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:Looking forward to hearing from you to clarify which specific uncivil messages you refer to and then letting this be the end of it. I have grown weary of the new message notification each time I wish to research a random topic. --[[User:Lucd13|Lucd13]] ([[User talk:Lucd13#top|talk]]) 17:17, 27 June 2015 (UTC) |
:Looking forward to hearing from you to clarify which specific uncivil messages you refer to and then letting this be the end of it. I have grown weary of the new message notification each time I wish to research a random topic. --[[User:Lucd13|Lucd13]] ([[User talk:Lucd13#top|talk]]) 17:17, 27 June 2015 (UTC) |
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::I totally understand your situation. Being a newbie is hard when you have to learn so much. I'd be happy to help you around the easy stuff of Wikipedia. As for the postscript, this is what I was referring to: {{tq|"I am not making a stink about how she's trolling other users and not following guidelines, I am not calling for action about how she seems to stalk my userpage (how else would she know that I created it after the discussion?), I am not raising my hand against her apparent racism or North American superiority complex [...]"}} and {{tq|" persisted against (what I perceive to be) an abuser of the Wikipedia system on my behalf."}}. The first part is definitely about me, but the apparent racism (I am not in any way) and North American complex (woah, buddy) I am uncertain. Majority of it is false. I knew about your user page because on mobile, I am always directed to a special page and I accidentally tapped on the user page instead of the talk page. I don't troll other users unless they're vandals, of course. Abuser? |
::I totally understand your situation. Being a newbie is hard when you have to learn so much. I'd be happy to help you around the easy stuff of Wikipedia. As for the postscript, this is what I was referring to: {{tq|"I am not making a stink about how she's trolling other users and not following guidelines, I am not calling for action about how she seems to stalk my userpage (how else would she know that I created it after the discussion?), I am not raising my hand against her apparent racism or North American superiority complex [...]"}} and {{tq|" persisted against (what I perceive to be) an abuser of the Wikipedia system on my behalf."}}. The first part is definitely about me, but the apparent racism (I am not in any way) and North American complex (woah, buddy) I am uncertain. Majority of it is false. I knew about your user page because on mobile, I am always directed to a special page and I accidentally tapped on the user page instead of the talk page. I don't troll other users unless they're vandals, of course. Abuser? Woah. I have not abused my position or my edit rights. That was way out of line. Also, when dealing with users for various reasons, remember to keep calm. Going bonkers because they disagree is not the best way to deal with situations. It just gets you labelled. Just a little reminder. [[User:Callmemirela|<span style="font-family:Courier New; font-size:14px; color:#a6587b">Callmemirela</span>]] ([[User talk:Callmemirela|<span style="font-family:Georgia; font-size: 12px; color:#8B2252; font-weight:bold;">Talk</span>]]) [[Special:Contributions/Callmemirela|<span style="color:#582335">♑</span>]] 18:56, 27 June 2015 (UTC) |
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- I'm a huge believer in WP:NOTCENSORED , however, WP:POLEMIC basically says what you wrote can't be up there, sorry. KoshVorlon Rassekali ternii i mlechnye puti 20:23, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
- Let me be a bit more specific. WP:POLEMIC covers Polemical statements unrelated to Wikipedia, or statements attacking or vilifying groups of editors, persons, or other entities (these are generally considered divisive and removed, and reintroducing them is often considered disruptive). Material that can be viewed as attacking other editors, including the recording of perceived flaws.
- I'm a huge believer in WP:NOTCENSORED , however, WP:POLEMIC basically says what you wrote can't be up there, sorry. KoshVorlon Rassekali ternii i mlechnye puti 20:23, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
Your first paragraph derides the community of people that make up Wikipedia, this falls under vilifying groups of editors, persons or other entities, the second part but I will say 'Fuck the users of Wikipedia'. also falls under vilifying groups of editors , person or other entities as well. The third and final paragraph also falls under this as well.
Yes, Wikipedia isn't perfect, and I have a few things I'm irked about too, but posting polemic speech just won't fix the problem, further it will draw only negative attention to you. So, I've removed your posting. Please don't repost as it does violate WP:POLEMIC. KoshVorlon Rassekali ternii i mlechnye puti 12:04, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
KoshVorlon. Mate, I read the discussion on the admin page - I saw that the others disagreed with you and it was closed in my favour. Even the original posting user resigned herself to having lost the case she brought and closed it. I am not making a stink about how she's trolling other users and not following guidelines, I am not calling for action about how she seems to stalk my userpage (how else would she know that I created it after the discussion?), I am not raising my hand against her apparent racism or North American superiority complex, though I am getting notifications that another user is standing up to her attempts to oppress. All I know is that you continuing to go against the decision made by other admins and trying to pressure me directly is a further example of the 'community' at large on this site being less than it should be, filled with individuals who think themselves greater than they are. My userpage still has the content and your remarks do not change my opinion - I still choose to withhold my contributions. I ask that you desist with this communication - a third from you will be viewed as harassment.
Response to ridiculous situation
Caden: Mate, thank you. You fought the fight when you weren't asked to and persisted against (what I perceive to be) an abuser of the Wikipedia system on my behalf. I absolutely do not expect the apology you suggested to her, but I have to thank you, mate. You are proof that I may just be wrong about the community here. :)
- Lucd13 you are welcome. I had to do what was right. I couldn't ignore it. I was happy to help you because you were treated horribly and nobody deserves that. I really hope you stick around. You have much to offer and wikipedia needs you. You are a good editor who has done a good job. Please consider staying. Caden cool 23:13, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
CSI: Cyber
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Whether you want to ignore or read this is up to you. I don't expect you to go easy on me, but I will try. First, I would like to apologize for the whole ordeal on CSI: Cyber. I wasn't aware (I'm not aware of a lot things) that using a source that was inaccessible to others was allowed (I don't agree with it, but that's something else). I was redirected to other pages about this and it lead me to WP:Resources, which were in fact able to confirm what you said. I am sorry about that. And if I went hard on you or I was the reason why you tell Wikipedians to fuck off, I am sorry. I don't want to be the reason of your mess on Wikipedia. I try my best, but like everyone else, we all go off the rails. However, I would have had appreciated if you just posted on my talk page about the situation. I have doubts about some users, yes. But you could have stated the time, who, and the quote of the number of episodes was revealed. I would have followed through. Communication is an important key here. I know I didn't do my part either, but you didn't do yours either in terms of communication. Although, the situation falls on me. But please, next time, please talk to me or anyone else about these situations. This is what it leads to and I am here apologizing for my actions. I hope you understand that. I am again sorry and I hope we can move past this and continue editing on Wikipedia? PS: That message you wrote about me was very uncivil. Please don't do this again with any user. If you have issues, speak with them (or me in that case). That message was crap and I am here to make amends (I think that message was posted before this message). Callmemirela (Talk) ♑ 14:00, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
- Callmemirela, While I thank you for your gesture of apology, there are other points I must question. You see, I had intended to ignore this as a way of letting the dust settle, but then I realised that if others were to read my talk page and see your postscript, they'd think I am one to post potentially libelous messages about users, which I feel would be an erroneous opinion of me. Please advise which message(s) you refer to in which I have publicly named you and treated you uncivilly.
- You have mentioned a good number of 'could have's, but you assume too much of me. I had not, in fact, known about user pages until that fateful night when I started clicking about to learn more of why I was being harangued, discovered the concept and decided to create one. I had not known about the ANI page until you decided to bring a case against me (to be honest, I still don't really understand that page, but one step at a time). I had not known about talk pages as messageboards until responses to your ANI post were made - prior to that I honestly believed it was just for auto-notifications of errors and page deletions. I may not be a newbie in terms of account duration, but I am a relative newbie in terms of experience and certainly regarding complete understanding of the depths of this site (similar to your admission above), so I understand that we all make mistakes. Moving forward, I'll not put nice little quick pleas in the Edit Summary: I'll use the talk pages. At the end of it, at least I have learnt some points from this.
- Looking forward to hearing from you to clarify which specific uncivil messages you refer to and then letting this be the end of it. I have grown weary of the new message notification each time I wish to research a random topic. --Lucd13 (talk) 17:17, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
- I totally understand your situation. Being a newbie is hard when you have to learn so much. I'd be happy to help you around the easy stuff of Wikipedia. As for the postscript, this is what I was referring to:
"I am not making a stink about how she's trolling other users and not following guidelines, I am not calling for action about how she seems to stalk my userpage (how else would she know that I created it after the discussion?), I am not raising my hand against her apparent racism or North American superiority complex [...]"
and" persisted against (what I perceive to be) an abuser of the Wikipedia system on my behalf."
. The first part is definitely about me, but the apparent racism (I am not in any way) and North American complex (woah, buddy) I am uncertain. Majority of it is false. I knew about your user page because on mobile, I am always directed to a special page and I accidentally tapped on the user page instead of the talk page. I don't troll other users unless they're vandals, of course. Abuser? Woah. I have not abused my position or my edit rights. That was way out of line. Also, when dealing with users for various reasons, remember to keep calm. Going bonkers because they disagree is not the best way to deal with situations. It just gets you labelled. Just a little reminder. Callmemirela (Talk) ♑ 18:56, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
- I totally understand your situation. Being a newbie is hard when you have to learn so much. I'd be happy to help you around the easy stuff of Wikipedia. As for the postscript, this is what I was referring to:
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