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== Precious anniversary == |
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--[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 06:07, 28 June 2019 (UTC) |
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Four years now! --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 09:50, 28 June 2020 (UTC) |
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== Arbitration case opened == |
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In 2018, you offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has now accepted that request for arbitration, and an arbitration case has been opened at [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Jytdog]]. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Jytdog/Evidence]]. Please add your evidence by March 23, 2020, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Jytdog/Workshop]]. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. |
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== RE - AK == |
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RE - [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement&diff=848781468&oldid=848781357 this comment] - first of all, you are correct that the AK in most sectors did not collaborate with the Nazis (unlike, for instance, the situation in Lithuania). There were however exceptions - specifically in modern day Western Belarus (Nowogródek) and Lithuania (Wilno) - in both of these areas from circa 1943 (as the Soviets advanced) - local units made truce and weapon supply agreements with the Nazis - in this regard the fairly recent (but comprehensive) ''The Polish Underground and the Jews, 1939-1945'' by Zimmerman is a good read for Nowogródek (search for Pilch) and for Jewish/Underground relations in WWII. HOWEVER - lack of Nazi collaboration does not mean that the AK (and particularly the NSZ - which was separate from the AK until parts of it joined the AK in 1944) had good relations with the Jews. Particularly, the reason Holocaust survivors and scholars make a comparison (on the danger or deadliness) is the hunting of Jews in the countryside and forest by the NSZ and some AK units (which varied quite a bit - the AK wasn't uniform - different units represented different Polish political factions) - In regards to Jews hiding out in the forest - the Polish underground was often the primary danger in many areas (not for lack of will by the Nazis, but rather since the Nazis did not go into the forest as much) - Jews out in the forests specifically targeted as "bandits" (to be liquidated) in AK orders (though there is some debate over the scope of the banditry order - whether this was a codeword, or that it applied to Jewish and non-Jewish bandits - however Jews in the forest were pretty much forced to a life of banditry (or petty theft) to survive). Zimmerman covers this in depth, but shorter coverage in English can be seen [https://books.google.co.il/books?id=psleDQml1WsC&pg=PA206&dq=%22home+army%22++murder+jews&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjYjNupgIXcAhXECMAKHTNrAr4Q6AEIODAD#v=onepage&q=%22home%20army%22%20%20murder%20jews&f=false here] and [https://books.google.co.il/books?id=AEeLCwAAQBAJ&pg=PA145&dq=%22home+army%22++nazi+killing+jews&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi65diI_4TcAhVIPsAKHbSAC-YQ6AEIUzAI#v=onepage&q=%22home%20army%22%20%20nazi%20killing%20jews&f=false here]. There are also issues with the AK's (or more specifically post-AK after its dissolution) record after the Soviet conquest in 1944-45. So the question here isn't one of Nazi collaboration (which, when done, was vs. the Soviet advance in 1943 and was of an "enemy of my enemy is my (temporary) friend/truce/weapon-supplier"), but rather actions independently carried out.[[User:Icewhiz|Icewhiz]] ([[User talk:Icewhiz|talk]]) 11:52, 4 July 2018 (UTC) |
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== Re George Bell == |
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Sorry Kingsindian. I had not scrolled down enough to see the "missing" text down at the bottom. Better where it is now though I think.[[User:Charlesdrakew|Charles]] ([[User talk:Charlesdrakew|talk]]) 16:14, 1 August 2018 (UTC) |
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: {{re|Charlesdrakew}} No worries. [[User:Kingsindian|Kingsindian]] [[User Talk: Kingsindian|♝]] [[Special:Contributions/Kingsindian|♚]] 17:13, 1 August 2018 (UTC) |
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For the Arbitration Committee, [[User:Cthomas3|'''''<span style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: larger; color: black;"><span style="color: brown;">C</span>Thomas<sup style="font-size: x-small; color: brown;">3</sup></span>''''']] ([[User talk:Cthomas3|talk]]) 17:30, 9 March 2020 (UTC) |
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== Word of advice == |
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== Wikipedia Wars and the Israel-Palestine conflict...please fill out my survey? == |
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Hi, Kingsindian (cc: {{u|Clockback}}). I've closed the AN block appeal discussion, as it's clear there's not going to be any consensus for the unblock you seek. I closed the discussion now to spare the project of more drama than it has already received. However, let me be clear: had that discussion remained open for a sufficient period of time, and the discussion continued to trend in the way it was going, it would have been closed as a community-endorsed block, which, according to [[WP:CBAN|policy]], is the same thing as a community ''ban''. Administrators do not have the authority to overturn a community ban; a later community discussion authorizing an unblock would be '''required''', and the bare minimum "time served" for that to happen would most likely be six months, per [[WP:SO|standard practice]]. I came ''very'' close to closing the discussion in that manner, but ultimately felt that the discussion had not been open long enough for there to have been the required "due consideration" sufficient for a community ban. There is nothing inherently harsh about an indefinite block. It can be as short as a few minutes. It's largely up to the blocked user. All that is required is a [[WP:GAB|GAB]]-compliant unblock request. Blocked users have the right to re-appeal to a new admin, ''as many times as they want'', they have the right to debate, dispute and discuss the block with administrators ''ad infinitum'', they can negotiate unblock conditions, and hammer out what exactly needs to be said or done in order to secure an unblock. When you appeal to the community and the community endorses the block, ''all of that'' goes out the window and the user basically has no recourse but the six month [[WP:SO|standard offer]], though it's ''still'' left up to another community discussion at that point. So, in your good faith effort to cast this indefinite block as "too harsh", you almost got the user indefinitely ''banned'', which is substantially more draconian. I performed the close at this time on the assumption that nobody will have a problem with allowing the user to retain the regular options for an unblock. There is no guarantee that somebody won't insist on reopening the discussion, thus giving the block "due consideration", in order to secure a community-block, and if that happens, there's really nothing I can do. But, this is just a heads-up about the situation. I think the best thing you can do is bow out and let this user quietly negotiate an unblock. Like I said, there is no guarantee that things won't escalate further, but letting the user handle it with admins is going to be their best bet. Let me know if you have any questions. Regards, [[User:Swarm|<span style='color:black;text-shadow: 0.0em 0.0em 0.9em black'><big>'''S'''</big><small>'''''warm'''''</small></span>]] [[User talk:Swarm|<span style='color:black;text-shadow: 0.1em 0.1em 0.2em red'>♠</span>]] 05:53, 4 August 2018 (UTC) |
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: {{re|Swarm}} I have communicated with Clockback, and they would like to re-open the block review and let it run its course, even if it means that they might end up in an even bigger hole. [[User:Kingsindian|Kingsindian]] [[User Talk: Kingsindian|♝]] [[Special:Contributions/Kingsindian|♚]] 06:40, 4 August 2018 (UTC) |
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::Alright. I've sent Clockback a message giving them one more chance to reconsider, but if they confirm that they fully understand the gravity of the consequences and still wish to reopen the discussion, I will do so. [[User:Swarm|<span style='color:black;text-shadow: 0.0em 0.0em 0.9em black'><big>'''S'''</big><small>'''''warm'''''</small></span>]] [[User talk:Swarm|<span style='color:black;text-shadow: 0.1em 0.1em 0.2em red'>♠</span>]] 07:18, 4 August 2018 (UTC) |
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::: {{re|Swarm}} Clockback has now replied on the talkpage, asking for re-opening. [[User:Kingsindian|Kingsindian]] [[User Talk: Kingsindian|♝]] [[Special:Contributions/Kingsindian|♚]] 10:09, 4 August 2018 (UTC) |
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::::My sympathy is still with Clockback, as I consider he has been harshly and unfairly treated. But it's hard to help someone who shoots himself in the foot at every opportunity. I'd like to thank you for what you've done on his behalf. [[User:Maproom|Maproom]] ([[User talk:Maproom|talk]]) 19:46, 4 August 2018 (UTC) |
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Hello :) |
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== Misc. == |
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I am writing my MA dissertation on Wikipedia Wars and the Israel-Palestine conflict, and I noticed that you have contributed to those pages. My dissertation will look at the process of collaborative knowledge production on the Israel-Palestine conflict, and the effect it has on bias in the articles. This will involve understanding the profiles and motivations of editors, contention/controversy and dispute resolution in the talk pages, and bias in the final article. |
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For more information, you can check out my [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Wikipedia_Wars_and_the_Israel-Palestine_Conflict meta-wiki research page] or my [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sarabnas user page], where I will be posting my findings when I am done. |
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I would greatly appreciate if you could take 5 minutes to fill out [https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdriEAkTQCq5Us26lxEqbjfw4jh3ktqTLaE8FN7fYY7Eph1Fw/viewform?usp=sf_link this quick survey] ''before 8 August 2021.'' |
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Participation in this survey is entirely voluntary and anonymous. There are no foreseeable risks nor benefits to you associated with this project. |
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: {{re|Zero0000}} Thanks for the kind words. Btw, I would characterize it as "Sisyphean" rather than "Herculean". [[User:Kingsindian|Kingsindian]] [[User Talk: Kingsindian|♝]] [[Special:Contributions/Kingsindian|♚]] 08:33, 4 August 2018 (UTC) |
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Sarah Sanbar |
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== Hitchens == |
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[[User:Sarabnas|Sarabnas]] <sup>[[User:Sarabnas|I'm researching Wikipedia]]</sup> <sub>[[User_talk:Sarabnas|Questions?]]</sub> 16:04, 24 July 2021 (UTC) |
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I see that you have resigned from the discussion. Kind of a crowded forum. If you would like to talk via google hangouts or skype, i would be willing. [[User:Jytdog|Jytdog]] ([[User talk:Jytdog|talk]]) 17:19, 7 August 2018 (UTC) |
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: {{re|Jytdog}} I would probably prefer email. In any case, I need a break from this matter for now. [[User:Kingsindian|Kingsindian]] [[User Talk: Kingsindian|♝]] [[Special:Contributions/Kingsindian|♚]] 18:11, 7 August 2018 (UTC) |
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Precious anniversary
Three years! |
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--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:07, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
Four years now! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:50, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
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Arbitration case opened
In 2018, you offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has now accepted that request for arbitration, and an arbitration case has been opened at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Jytdog. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Jytdog/Evidence. Please add your evidence by March 23, 2020, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Jytdog/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration.
All content, links, and diffs from the original ARC and the latest ARC are being read into the evidence for this case.
The secondary mailing list is in use for this case: arbcom-en-b@wikimedia.org
For the Arbitration Committee, CThomas3 (talk) 17:30, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
Wikipedia Wars and the Israel-Palestine conflict...please fill out my survey?
Hello :) I am writing my MA dissertation on Wikipedia Wars and the Israel-Palestine conflict, and I noticed that you have contributed to those pages. My dissertation will look at the process of collaborative knowledge production on the Israel-Palestine conflict, and the effect it has on bias in the articles. This will involve understanding the profiles and motivations of editors, contention/controversy and dispute resolution in the talk pages, and bias in the final article.
For more information, you can check out my meta-wiki research page or my user page, where I will be posting my findings when I am done.
I would greatly appreciate if you could take 5 minutes to fill out this quick survey before 8 August 2021.
Participation in this survey is entirely voluntary and anonymous. There are no foreseeable risks nor benefits to you associated with this project.
Thanks so much,
Sarah Sanbar
Sarabnas I'm researching Wikipedia Questions? 16:04, 24 July 2021 (UTC)