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: {{u|Gurjeshwar}}: The images were removed by another editor whose justification I found sound. On the other hand, you offered no reason when you undid the changes, except that the fact images have been there for a long time, and V Patel is a known person. See, this is an encyclopaedia, it is constantly edited and improved by various editors who have full right to add and remove images. Other editors felt that the images violated WP principles, so they removed them. I second that, and you should comply. You are not the owner of that article. Regards, <span style="font-family:'Candara',sans-serif;">[[User:Kashmiri|<span style="color:#30C;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;text-shadow:#AAF 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em;">kashmiri</span>]] [[User talk:Kashmiri|<sup style="color:#80F;">TALK</sup>]]</span> 13:41, 17 November 2014 (UTC) |
: {{u|Gurjeshwar}}: The images were removed by another editor whose justification I found sound. On the other hand, you offered no reason when you undid the changes, except that the fact images have been there for a long time, and V Patel is a known person. See, this is an encyclopaedia, it is constantly edited and improved by various editors who have full right to add and remove images. Other editors felt that the images violated WP principles, so they removed them. I second that, and you should comply. You are not the owner of that article. Regards, <span style="font-family:'Candara',sans-serif;">[[User:Kashmiri|<span style="color:#30C;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;text-shadow:#AAF 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em;">kashmiri</span>]] [[User talk:Kashmiri|<sup style="color:#80F;">TALK</sup>]]</span> 13:41, 17 November 2014 (UTC) |
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:{{|Kashmiri}}:: I & other writers was regularly observing your and other writers activity specially on Gurjar article. You have also removed the images of Mihir Bhoja and Sardar Vallabh Bhaiu Patel. Mr. Gurjeshwar efforts to improve this article seems right as he has provided many citation in support of contents. At Wikipedia, information should not be biased and manipulative, as you are trying with other writers and convinced the admin for 3RRR error for Mr. Gurjeshwar. You may not be convinced but majority of writers and viewers are convinced with citation in Gurjar wiki. So i request you not to remove any content and images in future. |
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thank you for letting me know the mistakes i made thats all i wanted to know i will do some seraching and find some information
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Bcha
Paper pr chahe jo mrzi likh le saraikistan ek khwaab tha or khwaab rhega. Baap ki olad hay to lay kr dikhao 39.47.190.237 (talk) 15:24, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
- Khwaabon ke bare me likhnaa yahan manaa nahin hai. Paper jalane se idea ghaib nahin hota. kashmiri TALK 17:48, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
Citation templates
I just noticed that you have created at least two pages as citation templates, quite literally:
Why? I question whether we should be cluttering up Wikipedia with such templates. Create the template and use it in the article. Period. -- Brangifer (talk) 05:24, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
- Hi, this has been a subject of heated debate since DOI bot came into existence. Myself, I was always favouring use of citation templates - personally I think academic sources should even be integrated in Wikidata. The templates you mention were created automatically when I entered {{cite doi}} template in the article code. I think we also differ in our definition of "cluttering". Regards, kashmiri TALK 12:22, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
Burzynski
You reverted the fact that his claimed Ph.D. is unverifiable. Perhaps you're not aware: it was almost certainly not a Ph.D. because Medical University of Lublin does not appear to have awarded that qualification at that time. I might have been a D.MSc. or similar, but the only source for the claim - literally, the only source - is a fax supplied by Burzynski and purporting to come from a person at Lublin. I don't think it's at all clear cut, and that's what the Quackwatch article said. I am pretty familiar with this subject, and as an admin I'm not given to random hatchet jobs. Guy (Help!) 20:25, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
- Hi JzG, the Medical University of Lublin conferred doctorate in medical science since 1945 and doctorate in pharmaceutical sciences since 1962[1]. Doctorate in medical science is equivalent to the degree Doctor of Medicine which according to its Wikipedia entry is "equivalent to Ph.D."
- Certainly, I cannot vouch that Burzynski has indeed obtained a tertiary degree; this can only be confirmed by the university. There was no separate biochemistry doctorate at the University at the time, although I imagine it was possible to do a biochemistry specialisation within the pharmacology degree. However, since no sources seem to question his academic credentials (unless you can offer one), expressing doubts in them in a Wikipedia article felt slightly WP:OR to me. Hope you agree. Regards, kashmiri TALK 20:47, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, it was almost certainly a D.MSc. That's not a Ph.D. I think his academic credentials are questioned (see Orac / David Gorski's writing on the subject), and there is a difference between MD and PhD (MD is not a research doctorate, as such, at least not in the same sense) but it was of course long enough ago that his lack of a significant research career since would be much more relevant. I'd be inclined to say he was awarded a doctorate, which is completely accurate. I don't like "earned" because it's a value judgment (see the Bogdanov affair). Well, there's some relevance I guess: his claims to a Ph.D. are clearly false since the university did not award them at that time. That indicates playing fast and loose with facts, but frankly we hardly need more evidence of that with this guy! Guy (Help!) 22:37, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
- JzG: I am sorry I have no idea what D.MSc. is, that's not an acronym I am recognising, Google search does not help, either. The only tertiary degrees in Poland are doctorate in medical science - a professional title equivalent to British (and American?) MD; and "simple" doctorate - an academic title broadly equivalent to PhD in non-medical subjects. I am fine with replacing PhD with MD in the article if you prefer, although I don't see this would change much due to incompatibility between Polish/European and American degrees. To the best of my knowledge, "earning a degree" is a valid phrase in English, although I agree it is slightly idiomatic - can be changed to "received a degree" or "was awarded a degree" if you prefer. BTW, what further career is expected after a doctorate? kashmiri TALK 22:52, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
- Doctorate in medical science is D.MSc, in the sources I've read. For a Ph. D. A normal career would include numerous publications in reliable journals; Burzynski has a few case studies. His output indicates a non-research tertiary degree. His career, by contrast, strongly suggests a rapacious quack, sadly. Guy (Help!) 23:19, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
- So would D.MSc. be the same as Doctorate in Medicine (MD)? Regular publishing is "normal" only when a person is employed by a school or university and a specific number of publications per year form a part of their contract (unfortunately, that's how it is these days). Those who run their own businesses do not have such obligations and can publish whenever they want. Is it only me who does not find it strange? Also, making judgements about people's character based on their CVs goes slightly too far IMHO. kashmiri TALK 23:42, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
- Doctorate in medical science is D.MSc, in the sources I've read. For a Ph. D. A normal career would include numerous publications in reliable journals; Burzynski has a few case studies. His output indicates a non-research tertiary degree. His career, by contrast, strongly suggests a rapacious quack, sadly. Guy (Help!) 23:19, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
- JzG: I am sorry I have no idea what D.MSc. is, that's not an acronym I am recognising, Google search does not help, either. The only tertiary degrees in Poland are doctorate in medical science - a professional title equivalent to British (and American?) MD; and "simple" doctorate - an academic title broadly equivalent to PhD in non-medical subjects. I am fine with replacing PhD with MD in the article if you prefer, although I don't see this would change much due to incompatibility between Polish/European and American degrees. To the best of my knowledge, "earning a degree" is a valid phrase in English, although I agree it is slightly idiomatic - can be changed to "received a degree" or "was awarded a degree" if you prefer. BTW, what further career is expected after a doctorate? kashmiri TALK 22:52, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, it was almost certainly a D.MSc. That's not a Ph.D. I think his academic credentials are questioned (see Orac / David Gorski's writing on the subject), and there is a difference between MD and PhD (MD is not a research doctorate, as such, at least not in the same sense) but it was of course long enough ago that his lack of a significant research career since would be much more relevant. I'd be inclined to say he was awarded a doctorate, which is completely accurate. I don't like "earned" because it's a value judgment (see the Bogdanov affair). Well, there's some relevance I guess: his claims to a Ph.D. are clearly false since the university did not award them at that time. That indicates playing fast and loose with facts, but frankly we hardly need more evidence of that with this guy! Guy (Help!) 22:37, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
GURJAR
Mr. Kashmiri, Constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, but a recent edit of yours to the page Gurjar has an edit summary that appears to be inaccurate or inappropriate. ,,,,Your recent editing history at Gurjar shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you get reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse. YOu can not judge the difference between right and wrong. Samrat Mihir Bhoja image was displayed on Gurjar since last 4 years with proper references and lots of debate already done in this regard. You can not change images by feeling yourself a right work. welcome for debate and argue for present references. Lots of efforts has been madeto improve this Gurjar Wikipedia with Editor like Chhora, Ashok Harsana, AP Singh, all are prominent historian and have better knowledge than you. Are you reverting yourself or i forward the request to admin for your behavior. Gurjeshwar (talk) 03:25, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
'Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. Do not remove the authentic images of Gurjar personalities and contents from Gurjar wikipedia. Please debate before to edit this article. This is not the matter of choice that you previous version is much better. Samrat Mihir Bhoja image was displayed on Gurjar Wiki since last 4 years. Then why you are reverting this without telling a perfect reasons. This is objectionable. Thanks Gurjeshwar (talk) 03:32, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
- Gurjeshwar: The images were removed by another editor whose justification I found sound. On the other hand, you offered no reason when you undid the changes, except that the fact images have been there for a long time, and V Patel is a known person. See, this is an encyclopaedia, it is constantly edited and improved by various editors who have full right to add and remove images. Other editors felt that the images violated WP principles, so they removed them. I second that, and you should comply. You are not the owner of that article. Regards, kashmiri TALK 13:41, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
- {{|Kashmiri}}:: I & other writers was regularly observing your and other writers activity specially on Gurjar article. You have also removed the images of Mihir Bhoja and Sardar Vallabh Bhaiu Patel. Mr. Gurjeshwar efforts to improve this article seems right as he has provided many citation in support of contents. At Wikipedia, information should not be biased and manipulative, as you are trying with other writers and convinced the admin for 3RRR error for Mr. Gurjeshwar. You may not be convinced but majority of writers and viewers are convinced with citation in Gurjar wiki. So i request you not to remove any content and images in future.
RoyalGurjar (talk) 13:22, 18 November 2014 (UTC)