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Note. WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules:simple/complex 16:26, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
- One would think that RE would figure out that inserting the identical material over and over again wasn't going to work, even with new accounts.... Ah well. --jpgordon::==( o ) 16:31, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
- I'm thinking about requesting pending changes level 2 be re-applied to the page, any advice or comments? WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules:simple/complex 14:55, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
User:Lordalpha1
Hello, i'm lordalpha1, and I'm here to testify for my banning.
Let me explain. My Wifi Network (NOT my account) was hacked a few days ago, and my ip was blocked. so, i put up a unblock request on my talk page, not my ip's. So after I realized that my network folders were missing, I checked all of my accounts (eg email, wikipedia, deviantart, dropbox, etc...) to see if they were hacked. This took me about 1 and a half minutes. However, I accidentally put the unblock request on my talk page, not my IP's, so sorry if that was a mistake of mine. However, I got permanently banned, NOT my IP. I'm sorry if I put the template in the wrong place.
I hope you understand my situation.
Regards,
lordalpha1 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.57.182.114 (talk) 23:36, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
- You'll need to take this up with someone else; from a technical point of view (and checkuser analysis), your story is improbable. --jpgordon::==( o ) 23:57, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
The recent block
Hi Jpgordon,
My user name k247 appears to be listed on wiki - project spam for some reason with a report about the block you put in place because I blanked my user page (sorry I thought this was okay after reading the message). Is there some connection with being blocked for edit warring/page blanking and this? I am not sure why this editor has listed my user name the link at rare groove that I was trying to use to upload an audio file and my article that I am trying to develop postmodern religion here? This is the log link at wikispam next to my user name http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log/?page=User:Kary247%E2%80%8E --Kary247 (talk) 18:18, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
- I think the notice you received on your talk page, and then deleted, explains sufficiently. --jpgordon::==( o ) 18:44, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
I guess I am just not clear as to why my article on postmodern religion and my user name have been listed at wikispam? So when you look at what links here for postmodern religion and my kary247 user account the wiki spam link comes up. I did place a link for discussion at rare groove but I did put this up on the discussion board there and I did revert the editor and was subsequently blocked for edit warring. Does this really warrant my user name being and the article I am working really hard postmodern religion on being listed at wikispam? It seems a bit harsh?--Kary247 (talk) 19:38, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
- It is suggested at WT:WPSPAM#raregroove2mp3.com that you have some sort of relationships with the websites listed there; is that incorrect? You're probably better off complaining about it there, not here. --jpgordon::==( o ) 20:40, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
- I was wondering if you could talk to the editor about removing the wikispam report because I did put the suggested commercial link on the discussion page at rare groove - I was blocked for reverting too often on the 22 Dec. because I didn't quite understand the revert process. On that same day my user name has been listed at wikispam on that same day on the 22 Dec. by this editor. It seems a bit harsh because i was trying to reach a consensus and talk to the editor using the discussion page at rare groove about the fact that a commercial site might be good because an audio file could then be uploaded. The editor was warned by another administrator Bayek(or similar?) that he might have been engaging in edit warring also, but I was the one blocked. Now all of my work and my user page is coming up with 'links to wikispam'. It is a bit unfair because I am new to wiki and I did use the discussion page at rare groove? The reason I wanted a commercial link is because I did hope to upload an audio file, like bird does. I have written that the consensus was no commercial audio file on the discussion page, so I was hoping that someone could talk to the editor about removing the wikispam report because it does seem a bit harsh?--Kary247 (talk) 21:58, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
- I was asking if you could speak to the editor because when I was blocked by you he has listed me for spam which is a bit unfair. As you blocked me I thought that you may be able to talk to the editor. I have also placed the following as you suggested over at the wiki spam noticeboard.
- I placed a suggested external link on the rare groove discussion page. I was reverted and blocked for edit warring with Yworo when I attempted to reinstate the external link. On this same day, 22 December, Yworo listed me here for spam - my user name and an article I am working on, postmodern religion, have 'links to wikispam' - why is my user name and my article for postmodern religion being listed here on wiki spam? This article, postmodern religion has no external links so I am not sure how the comments below are relevant or valid. --Kary247 (talk) 23:15, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
- You're probably better off complaining about it there, not here. Why should I talk to the editor? I strengthened your edit warring block because you kept clearing block notices, etc. from your talk page; none of the rest of this is my doing or my concern, nor am I going to make it so. --jpgordon::==( o ) 04:42, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
- Yes you were right it was the right thing and faster to simply discuss the issue over there - it is resolved now thanks for guiding me in the right direction. Would you mind if I deleted the links here to my article or postmodern religion - or this discussion? Thanks--Kary247 (talk) 14:12, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
User:Onalgape
Hello. I noticed that you recently blocked User:Onalgape for abusing multiple accounts. He/she left a message on my talk page prior to being blocked asking that I add a question of his/hers to my ongoing RfA. Could you let me know the background behind this block? I'm trying to determine if the request is legitimate. –Grondemar 23:15, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
- Basic troll. Another of his accounts was User:Analgape. --jpgordon::==( o ) 01:38, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
AGF?
"Then you're either a liar or insane; in either way, you're not needed here." I like it :) I do really like it. Peridon (talk) 23:52, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
Hogmanay greeting
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Thank you very much for working with me in 2010 to make the encyclopedia a better place. Regardless of any disagreements we may have had, I want to wish you all the very best for 2011. I look forward to working with you, and I hope for health and happiness to you and your family in the year to come. I therefore send you this glass of the cratur, so you can celebrate, whether it is Hogmanay or New Year's Day where you are. Warmest regards, --John (talk) 04:58, 1 January 2011 (UTC) |
January 2011
Please stop. Wikipedia is not censored. Any further changes which have the effect of censoring an article will be regarded as vandalism. You should know much much better. Elvey (talk) 01:38, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
As you are affiliated with some of the people, places or things you have written about in the article PayPal, you may have a conflict of interest. In keeping with Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy, edits where there is a conflict of interest, or where such a conflict might reasonably be inferred, are strongly discouraged. If you have a conflict of interest, you should avoid or exercise great caution when:
- editing or creating articles related to you, your organization, or its competitors, as well as projects and products they are involved with;
- participating in deletion discussions about articles related to your organization or its competitors; and
- linking to the Wikipedia article or website of your organization in other articles (see Wikipedia:Spam).
Please refamiliarize yourself with relevant policies and guidelines, especially those pertaining to neutral point of view, verifiability of information, and autobiographies.
For information on how to contribute to Wikipedia when you have a conflict of interest, please see our frequently asked questions for organizations. More specifically, I [warned you about your CoI editing and you reverted that edit. I'm a user whose edit you reverted after I noted and reverted your CoI edit. You have a CoI with respect to eBay/PayPal. Are you willing to confirm or deny that? If so, I ask that you do so here and now. --Elvey (talk) 02:07, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
Your edit removed content that you claimed was at an oblique reference, and yet in fact was not at that referenced page. Specifically, you referenced a "list of processors" as containing the information you removed. There was no "list of processors", and while there was a " List of on-line payment service providers", it, as I had pointed out in fact did NOT include the competitors, eCache, and Google , that you had removed. Removing competitors from a company where there is a CoI certainly at least creates the strong appearance of bias and should not be the action of a user such as yourself who has extraordinary powers on the wiki. I ask that you undo your removal of eCache, and Google forthwith. (The discussion described above took place in edit summaries; see [2] 1,2 and 9 January 2011 ) --Elvey (talk) 02:07, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
- I have no COI. As I've explained in the past, I worked for eBay until 2002; I never had any connection with PayPal other than being a customer; and I have no remaining connection to either company. I still hold a trivial amount of eBay stock, all of which is earmarked for charity. If you wish to have a discussion about content, I'm sure, seeing how long you've been here, you know how to use the article talk page, where other editors will get involved. If you wish to accuse me of COI, we have a noticeboard for that, where other editors will get involved. Stop putting irrelevant templates on my page, please. I'm also a bit surprised that an experienced editor such as yourself is confusing "editing Elvey doesn't agree with" for "censorship". --jpgordon::==( o ) 02:21, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
- Stop beating your wife, as they say. In other words, I don't think the templates I put on your page are irrelevant. You have a financial interest in PayPal because eBay owns it, and you own a piece of eBay; IMO you have a CoI, but hey, you were an ArbCom member, so Maybe I'm missing something. Assuming there's a noticiceboard for such things that's more appropriate, let's continue the discusion there, not here. I won't take further action for a few hours, at least. I find that eCache, and Google aren't on the page you claimed they were on, and you haven't addressed that. When someone with great power prevents disclosure of information likely to harm their position, I call that censorship. YMMV. Reasonable minds may disagree. --Elvey (talk) 02:44, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
- So go ahead and put eCache and Google in that article. That's what it's for. Wikipedia is not a web directory; we don't put a list of every company's competitors in their articles. Ford Motor Company doesn't list Mercedes or BMW; Martin Guitars doesn't list Gibson or Taylor; etc. If you insist I have a conflict of interest, take it to WP:COIN; if you're accusing me of vandalism, take it to WP:ANI, because an administrator who is vandalizing is a very bad thing. In fact, do all that now and we can stop wasting each other's time. Well, mine at least. --jpgordon::==( o ) 02:58, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
- Please continue the COI discussion at WP:COIN#PayPal. --jpgordon::==( o ) 03:12, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
- So go ahead and put eCache and Google in that article. That's what it's for. Wikipedia is not a web directory; we don't put a list of every company's competitors in their articles. Ford Motor Company doesn't list Mercedes or BMW; Martin Guitars doesn't list Gibson or Taylor; etc. If you insist I have a conflict of interest, take it to WP:COIN; if you're accusing me of vandalism, take it to WP:ANI, because an administrator who is vandalizing is a very bad thing. In fact, do all that now and we can stop wasting each other's time. Well, mine at least. --jpgordon::==( o ) 02:58, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
- Stop beating your wife, as they say. In other words, I don't think the templates I put on your page are irrelevant. You have a financial interest in PayPal because eBay owns it, and you own a piece of eBay; IMO you have a CoI, but hey, you were an ArbCom member, so Maybe I'm missing something. Assuming there's a noticiceboard for such things that's more appropriate, let's continue the discusion there, not here. I won't take further action for a few hours, at least. I find that eCache, and Google aren't on the page you claimed they were on, and you haven't addressed that. When someone with great power prevents disclosure of information likely to harm their position, I call that censorship. YMMV. Reasonable minds may disagree. --Elvey (talk) 02:44, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
NPOV and Blavatsky
Dear Josh Gordon,
I am not sure, that I am posting at the right place. If I am in error please let me know. I got the following from you jpgordon: "Current revision as of 16:27, 9 January 2011
Welcome to Wikipedia, and thank you for your contributions. One of the core policies of Wikipedia is that articles should always be written from a neutral point of view. A contribution you made to Aryan race appears to carry a non-neutral point of view, and your edit may have been changed or reverted to correct the problem. Please remember to observe this important core policy. Thank you. --jpgordon::==( o ) 16:27, 9 January 2011 (UTC)"
I would like to ask why you found my alterations with regard to the page "Aryan race" non-neutral and why the present version is more neutral?
Is the following not just as neutral as the present versions? I was in fact quoting the point of view of the author mentioned, namely H. P. Blavatsky. Why have you deleted the below paragraph, which i posted on the page Aryan race?
I posted H. P. Blavatsky's words om Aryan or Arya from the Theosophical Glossary, 1892: "Ârya (Sk.) Lit., “the holy”; originally the title of Rishis, those who had mastered the “Âryasatyâni” (q.v.) and entered the Âryanimârga path to Nirvâna or Moksha, the great “four-fold” path. But now the name has become the epithet of a race, and our Orientalists, depriving the Hindu Brahmans of their birth-right, have made Aryans of all Europeans. In esotericism, as the four paths, or stages, can be entered only owing to great spiritual development and “growth in holiness ”, they are called the “four fruits”. The degrees of Arhatship, called respectively Srotâpatti, Sakridâgamin, Anâgâmin, and Arhat, or the four classes of Âryas, correspond to these four paths and truths."
--Khidr7 (talk) 17:03, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
- Once you started putting in things like "But only few people will call Samael Aun Weor a theosophist", with no sourcing, you were putting your own opinion into articles, thus violating NPOV. --jpgordon::==( o ) 17:17, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
- Allright Josh. I can agree with you on this. But those who claims that Samael Aun Weor is a theosophist and therefore aught to be mentioned in that paragrah on the subject "Theosophy" aught at least to - by documentation - make it clear why they consider him to be a theosophist, and one of least some importance when compared to the founders of The Theosphical Society.
Do you not think so?
I do not mind that people mention Samael Aun Weor on the page, but I find it wrong to place him in the paragraph on the subject "Theosophy", when he clearly deals with tantric yoga, - a teaching which is not the same as the most wellknown theosophical teachings given by any of the founders. It is in fact stated by the founders of the Theosophical Society that they opposed this teaching in many respects. (See Blavatsky views on the issue in The Theosophist, 1887 + 1888 and the articles by Rama Prasad - or - Blavatsky's Collected Writings, vol. XII p. 604, 611, 612-13, 621. Here she warns aganist the Tantra Yoga teachings). The word "tantra" is almost only mentioned positively when we talk about some very special Gelugpa Buddhist teachings given in some even today unknown edtions of a work called the Kalachakra Tantra. But this is not called trantra Yoga in any manner what so ever. If you call Samael Aun Weor a theosopbhist, then we aught also to call William Butler Yeats a theosophist as far as I am concerned. They spent just about the same amount of time on theosophical teachings and The Theosophical Society. But real real representatives of theosophical teachings or the Theosophical Society they were not.
I understand it, that i can post the above paragraph on Arya or Aryan by Blavatsky without you deleting it again? --Khidr7 (talk) 17:48, 9 January 2011 (UTC)