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Coca-cola
actually, jossi. the coca-cola page was hacked and there was no code with the hack on it so i guess it was some like fixed hack thing. sorry you missunderstood.
i have a wikipedia account its ryryion theryes nothing wrong i would never mess wikipedia up its helped me with alot of papers.
thanks
ryan..
(screen name (aol) westoceanlove16)— Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.255.183.240 (talk • contribs)
Jossi, please look at Generation Rescue talk page
We think we have materially improved the citation, and that problems have been created by people who violently disagree with Generation Rescue and want a very slanted entry. All we want is a Wiki page that is neutral and presents BOTH sides of the organization.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Staff Writer Wiki (talk • contribs)
Request for Comment: Regarding subcategory title
Please give your comment / suggestions regarding this in the Sathya Sai talk page. I have also requested comments from other editors. Wikisunn 22nd February 2007
You comments relating to an edit on Leonardo. 1. I bow to your editorial skill 2. I believe you are in error and obviously uninformed on recent theories regarding DaVinci's Mona Lisa. Therefore I would request you retract you comment of Vandalism as it is unwarranted. There was no nonsense in the comments appended. If you still believe there was, please be specific. I thank you for you concern and applaud you contributions but I do not want you to believe there was nonsense or malice. I would be pleased to have had the opportunity to append cites to support my comment had you not voided them. I would hope that actions were not homophobic and assume you are not involved in art history. I am university educated with an art history minor from Columbia University, N.Y. and studied in Italy as well. In any event, best regards. denidoc@gmail.com
Prince Henry
I will try to follow your suggestions. However, let me point out that the first to insult with vulgar terms like "asshole" was Dr. Lisboa. And it is difficult not to attack a poster who is constantly wrong, refuses to acknowledge his errors, and simply persists in them or drops one error and creates new ones. In short, how gladly must one suffer fools?
professional historian who has corrected Dr. Lisboa's many errors.
This has nothing to do with the content of the article, but simply the unneccesary insult directed toward me on the talk page. I noticed your post there, and this seems to be the only way of contacting you. I refuse to take abuse from another person, virtual or otherwise. Thank you.
Calligraphy
Hi Jossi. I note tonight that someone put a spam notice at the bottom of the Calligraphy page. I hope it was not you ? I have done most of the editing recently- I have contacted some 3rd parties about their own sites that I have put links to. My judgement is that the assistance and educational value of the ones chosen is significant. There are a number of editing decisions that I have made that exclude content on the basis of it being an invitation for all and sundry to post their own sites or books. I recommend that if someone has a specific objection that they make it public. Otherwise I think we're on the right track. What do you think about the prominent calligraphers list ? I don't think that it is useful and again poses a threat to the credibility of the main site. ayou may wish to read my recent contributions on the discussion board regarding some of the things I have had to correct- one example includes changing a short, direct quotation from a reputable source into a misquotation. Can we have a look at introducing some new images and perhaps removing "Urkunde" ? Please respond on my talk page. Regards.≈ Furminger ≈ 19 April 2007
- I did not touch that article for a while. For an guideline on what is acceptable as an external link, see WP:EL. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk)
"Experimenting with the Republican Party (United States) page"
Jossi:
I reveiced this message from you:
"Thank you for experimenting with the page Republican Party (United States)n Wikipedia. Your test worked, and it has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you may want to do. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 01:32, 30 April 2007 (UTC)"
I was not signed into my account when I made my change to the Republican Party page. I am not a new user and do not need to be directed to the sandbox for experimentation or welcome page for a tutorial.
As for the change I made, it contained verifiable information from the Republican Party website. It was CORRECT information. I changed a couple of sentences regarding the original meaning of "G.O.P. and cited the Republican Party's homepage. The wiki page's information was simply not complete. "G.O.P." was an abbreviation for "Gallant Old Party," which was another way of referring to the Republican Party dating back to 1875. It was not until 1876 that "Grand Old Party" appeared in the Oxford English Dictionary as another name for the Party. This information can be found easily by checking out Republican Party history per their website. I advise you to review it yourself: http://www.gop.com/About/AboutRead.aspx?AboutType=3
I am interested in making this encyclopedia as complete as it can possibly be. You must be open to new, properly written contributions citing legitimate sources. Sure, it's hard to accept that the page to which you've contributed is not as comprehensive as you thought. But, frankly, I don't care. This isn't about you (or me for that matter). It's about the veracity of the information we are presenting.
~ask123 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ask123 (talk • contribs)
- (please sign your posts with four tildes: ~~~~)
- Yes, you made that edit without being logged on (see diff] and the source you provided did not match the text you added. If you are not logged, there is now way for others to know that you are not a new user. As for the revert, note that the source says that "apparently the original meaning (in 1875) was "gallant old party." Your text asserted that "actually stood for 'Gallant Old Party.". I have corrected this in the article. In the future, please log on and stay close to the sources you provide. Thanks. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 17:10, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
- I think I was quite close to the source without plagiarizing it. And my change does match the source. The bottom line is that the Party itself believes the original meaning of the initials G.O.P. was "Gallant Old Party." However, I will conceed that perhaps, per your note, a better revision would be "apparently stood for Gallant Old Party."
- Still, the change has not been made in the article. Taking my edit away, rather than changing it to a better revision (per your thoughts), just stalls progress (especially when you've verified the information via the source). Taking the revision away entirely and going back to the only semi-correct information does little to help both those trying to perfect the article as editors and those educating themselves as readers. A couple of days ago, you wrote on another user's talk page regarding reverts and their resultant edit wars, "going back to a flawed version is, well, flawed." I think it's a good idea to heed your own advice here. Ask123 18:23, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
- You're sarcasm is cute and entirely irrelevant. This is not a style or opinion point in need of a long talk page battle for consensus. This is not a controversial matter over which deliberation is needed. This is a simple and short fact that is actually in the official history of the organization begin described. Your suggestion would be like asking for a talk page consensus before noting that Bill Clinton's hair is gray (or is it silver?) or that Paul Allen was among the founders of Microsoft. But, wait, not everyone may know that Paul Allen was a founder of the Microsoft company! They all think that Bill Gates founded it and know nothing of Mr. Allen! Maybe we need a Microsoft talk page discussion to sort this one out. This, of course, doesn't happen. Why? Because Microsoft openly states in it's offical history that Mr. Allen was a co-founder of the company with Mr. Gates. Opening up a discussion on a talk page for this issue would unneccesarily bottle-neck the editing process and fill it with pointless redundancy. Such a measure would be a waste of the time and intelligence of the Wikipedia community. It is superfluous, just as is a talk page discussion of Bill Clinton's hair color or of a brief historical point made in Republican Party's official history. Let's save the talk page consensus pleas for devisive and/or controversial points.
- Oh, and, yes, I am familiar with WP:BRD. But there is not "deadlock," or a "discussion that needs to move forward" (as in talk page discussion), or a "dispute resolution that has failed." And most importantly, with the exception of you, there is no one who disputes this information at all, thus requiring the consensus process to begin in the first place (see sentence 1, "The BOLD, revert, discuss cycle is a method for reaching consensus..."). And, as the icing on the cake, it "seems" that you are ony disputing because you have Republican Party (United States) on your watchlist, and you do this with anyone that changes the article regardless of their change(s). ask123 06:17, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
- Actually, I didn't intend any sarcasm at all. AGF, my friend. Allow me to explain:
- You edited the page (without signing in). (First step in BRD).
- You got reverted. (Second step in BRD).
- You came here to complain, instead of the article talk page... (not in BRD).
- This editor replied to you in good faith. (not in BRD).
- You replied here, instead of the article talk page, and gave more reasons for the edit. (not in BRD).
- You could have signed in and re-edited. You could have discussed on the talk page, where other editors might have agreed with you. Coming to this editor's page is not part of WP:BRD
- I looked and didn't see where you had used the article page at all. And therefore suggested you read WP:BRD.
- Now you're back here on his talk page, to say I was being sarcastic and that you are familiar with WP:BRD but don't have to use it?
- Nothing about WP:BRD requires the long protracted discussion battle that you imply.
- Take a step back, my friend. I was trying to help.
- (and I don't have that page on my watch list. You'll probably realize shortly that I'm not Jossi)
- Lsi john 22:24, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
- Actually, I didn't intend any sarcasm at all. AGF, my friend. Allow me to explain:
- Apologies, John. I was too quick to respond and didn't see your tag. No, I didn't use BRD. I didn't use the talk page becaue I was engaged in this conversation with Jossi immediately after making my change.
- Jossi: I don't think that the lengthy, protracted process of BRD is not necessary for every factual addition to an article. I can understand if it the addition sparks deviciveness, but it shouldn't be taken overboard. A talk page session is unnecessary for a fact as easily verifiable as this one. This back-and-forth is already insanely long. No, it became a waste of time long ago. It began on May 5th; today is the 22nd of the month. Editors shouldn't turn every minor change into a bottlenecker on the talk page. Articles will not be able to evolve properly if this happens (and any evolution at all will happen remarkably slowly). As long as that's the way every change is handled, the perspective of a small group (namely, those with the time to spend arguing every point on talk pages) will reign. And believe it or not, people like you and me do not represent a consensus or the conduit to the most accurate information on a topic. I'm just about done with this. Cheers. ask123 02:26, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
FYI
Please see Template talk:Prem Rawat. Smee 08:57, 16 May 2007 (UTC).
New Editors May Need Help
Jossi,
It seems that some new editors may be having a problem with Attachment Therapy and some related articles. [here][here]
I don't know anything about the subject, but I am somewhat familiar with Fainites and she seems to be pretty level headed. It appears that someone posted a helpful hint on [StokerAce's page].
From what I gather, there may be about 6 separate accounts who all post forcefully with the same opinions.
I'm tossing this to you because I'd like to see someone look at it with a critical eye.
Thanks, Lsi john 12:22, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
Mr. Wright Again
I notified Mr. Wright of the possible violation of WP:USER, you can see his response on my talk page and on his.
TheRingess (talk) 14:43, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
Don't understand message
Hello, I think you may be mistaken, I did not try to vandelise Mormonism because I don't know how to edit a page. Sorry if I've caused you any bother. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 213.48.73.89 (talk) 15:08, 16 May 2007 (UTC).
That page was reverted 3 times by anon users ([1]), yesterday and today using numerical ips. It's hard to believe that they are all newbies. What do you think could be done (except for a full protection which I don't want and don't ask for)? Alæxis¿question? 15:29, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
Mormonism Vandalism
When did I vandalise a mormonism page?? I only edit one page and that is the page that I look after - Terry Ronald. honeybfly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.48.73.89 (talk • contribs)
- You are editing without a user name, and your IP address may be shared with other users. You can easily register a user name to avoid problems such as these. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 16:57, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
Vandalism
Hi to the person who messaged me, i'm sorry but i think we have a case of mistaken identity, you claim that i've vandalised the mormon page, yet i've never been on that page, could you please verify this matter, because it's troubling to be accused of making changes that i haven't made, thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.48.73.89 (talk • contribs)
- As explained in your talk page, your IP address has been blocked for vandalism. To avoid these blocks, you may consider registering a user name. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 21:32, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
Comments in User:Jimbo Wales source
These comments are needed and only serve to discourage new users from making potentially helpful edits. In addition they have a non professional tone, and their very existence is not compatible with the goals of Wikipedia. Otherwise, why not add hidden warnings to every page? --Afed 04:15, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
- That is a user page, and it is commented out. I see no problem with it, whatsoever. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 04:50, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
Hello,
An Arbitration case in which you commented has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/PalestineRemembered. Please add any evidence you may wish the arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/PalestineRemembered/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/PalestineRemembered/Workshop.
On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, --Srikeit 05:40, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
IRC cloak request
I am jossi on freenode and I would like the cloak wikipedia/jossi Thanks. --~ ≈ jossi ≈ (talk)
Thanks
Thank you for setting a good example at Talk:Prem Rawat. I have been trying to offer polite warnings to keep things at a reasonable level across the board. Thank you for understanding and again for the good example to others involved. Vassyana 19:20, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
- Thank you for stating your concern. It is not always easy to be at the receiving end of comments such as these made by a certain editor, and quite frustrating when, after third-party opinions are made declaring the inappropriateness of such comments, the editor disregards them and continues unabated with same type of comments on me and on others. From now on, rather than respond in talk, any further comments of that type will be reported on one of the noticeboards. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 19:27, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
Article
How about an article, list of groups associated with the anti-cult movement? Lsi john 01:02, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
Better scan?
- Jossi, can you upload a higher-quality version of the scan of the back cover, so that we can read the text at the bottom of the cover? Smee 01:07, 18 May 2007 (UTC).
- Jossi, can you please respond to this request? Thank you. Smee 18:09, 20 May 2007 (UTC).
- Nope, the text at the bottom of Image:Who Is Guru Maharaj Ji book cover back.jpg is still not readable. Smee 18:27, 20 May 2007 (UTC).
- Will you please upload a higher quality version of the image so that the text at the bottom of the book cover can be read? Smee 21:07, 20 May 2007 (UTC).
- I did. As per Fair use, I cannot upload a high-res image. Sorry. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 21:08, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
- You do not have to upload a "high" res image, just a low res image with just enough quality to read the text at the bottom of the image. Please do this. If not, that's okay, I will at some point soon, but if you did it would be faster. I am sure I could scan an image that is lower than 100Kb that shows the text, when I get a copy of the book handy. Smee 21:09, 20 May 2007 (UTC).
- The text is readable, at least it is in my monitor. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 21:20, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
- Not on mine. I see that you are unwilling to upload a higher quality scan, that is unfortunate. I will try to get ahold of a copy of the book for scanning purposes. Smee 21:22, 20 May 2007 (UTC).
- I can provide you with the text, if you want. Just that a higher res image will fail WP:FAIR. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 21:29, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
- I will upload an image with a higher resolution than the current one, that is still of a low resolution. Smee 22:58, 20 May 2007 (UTC).
- That is indeed not needed. The current image is perfectly OK as it pertains to WP:FAIR. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 00:00, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
- Thank you for your opinion. I will find and upload an image with readable text, that still is a low resolution image. Smee 00:32, 21 May 2007 (UTC).
- That was not an opinion, Smee. Why are you pressing on this? I have offered to transcribe the text if that is what you need. What else do you need? ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 00:36, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
- I am not pressing anything. I have made my decision, and will upload a better quality image when I get a chance. It will be useful for the reader, and will still be of a low enough resolution so as to be fair use. As I can see you are getting annoyed for some reason by this, I will not continue to add to this thread any longer. Smee 00:52, 21 May 2007 (UTC).
- That was not an opinion, Smee. Why are you pressing on this? I have offered to transcribe the text if that is what you need. What else do you need? ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 00:36, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
- Thank you for your opinion. I will find and upload an image with readable text, that still is a low resolution image. Smee 00:32, 21 May 2007 (UTC).
- That is indeed not needed. The current image is perfectly OK as it pertains to WP:FAIR. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 00:00, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
- I will upload an image with a higher resolution than the current one, that is still of a low resolution. Smee 22:58, 20 May 2007 (UTC).
- I can provide you with the text, if you want. Just that a higher res image will fail WP:FAIR. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 21:29, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
- Not on mine. I see that you are unwilling to upload a higher quality scan, that is unfortunate. I will try to get ahold of a copy of the book for scanning purposes. Smee 21:22, 20 May 2007 (UTC).
- The text is readable, at least it is in my monitor. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 21:20, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
- You do not have to upload a "high" res image, just a low res image with just enough quality to read the text at the bottom of the image. Please do this. If not, that's okay, I will at some point soon, but if you did it would be faster. I am sure I could scan an image that is lower than 100Kb that shows the text, when I get a copy of the book handy. Smee 21:09, 20 May 2007 (UTC).
- I did. As per Fair use, I cannot upload a high-res image. Sorry. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 21:08, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
- Thank you. Most appreciated. Smee 06:40, 21 May 2007 (UTC).
Question
Jossi, will it be unbecoming to post a photo Gavin Newsom for an other editor to see...before releasing it. I believe the photo is a much better photo than the present one, but would like other editor's opinion. What is the etiquette on these sort of matters? I await your reply.PEACETalkAbout 02:07, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
- Upload with a different name, and let editors judge which one is better. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 02:15, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
- Where do I upload? PEACETalkAbout 02:16, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
- Special:Upload. The link is on the left navigation bar in all WP pages. Just make sure you provide a source and a license. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 02:19, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
- Where do I upload? PEACETalkAbout 02:16, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
- Upload with a different name, and let editors judge which one is better. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 02:15, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
oops
My sincere apologies, jossi. It is easy for me to go several days without thinking to check my email. I understand your concerns, though I'm far too late now to act on them. Please do let me know if there is anything now ongoing that I can help with. ··coelacan 11:35, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
Landmark
Jossi, I'm at 3R and can't edit in Landmark Education anymore. I've requested protection. Can anything be done to stop these two editors from trying to force their 'version' when they cant get a concensus for the edits? The material has been discussed on the talk page and other than those two, I see nobody in favor of including what they're trying to include.
And, they are refusing (or failing) to address the questions and concerns that are being raised. Lsi john 16:11, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
And, rather than address the questions and article content, one of the editors is trying to tie in my original username, as if its relevant. Lsi john 16:12, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
- Follow WP:DR. You can start at the WP:MEDCAB. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 16:25, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
- In the meantime, you can ask for page protection at WP:RFPP. I cannot protect it myself because I edited that article in the past. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 16:30, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
- I've asked for PP. I'll research the MedCab procedures. Thanks. Lsi john 16:33, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
RE: Me uploading pictures without copyright
Hi
Please stop filling my talk page with all this unfair copyright stuff. The pictures you just put down are from the Mercedes-Benz Car Configurator, and the picture has no copyright. Please stop filing up my talk page, as I said before.
- I doubt that Wjs13 knows what a free image is. GracenotesT § 03:38, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
- I have blocked him, and will unblock after he agrees not to upload such images. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 03:39, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
- I still doubt that he had any idea what he was actually doing wrong. It's a bit hard to read our policy on non-free content when a bot is spamming one's talk page :) I do not contest the block, as it was appropriately preventative, but I suppose that's one down from our jargon. GracenotesT § 03:48, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
I'd watch him carefully for a while. I don't think that English is his first language.
Your note
Because it's been incorporated into the article; the content has not been deleted. By all means restore the title and redirect it if you want, but it seems pointless. SlimVirgin (talk) 17:25, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
- I am not sure that a merge is needed. The main article Martin Luther is becoming too big already, and such lists are useful navigational aids. I will restore it. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 17:30, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
- Not sure what you mean by a useful navigational aid. If the Luther article becomes too long, we can create a Martin Luther (resources) page; at the moment, it's not too long. SlimVirgin (talk) 17:37, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
- Which edit are you talking about? SlimVirgin (talk) 20:27, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
- The redirects and the template. No big deal though. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 20:28, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
- Which redirects have I undone? The template I'm only editing (adding works and putting things in alphabetical order), not undoing anything that I recall. SlimVirgin (talk) 20:34, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
- The lists. I think that the lists of books and films can have their own article, rather than merged into the main article. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 20:35, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
- We can create a Martin Luther (resources) page if you like, as I said earlier. I'm unclear about why there's such a fuss about it. SlimVirgin (talk) 20:37, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
- Which redirects have I undone? The template I'm only editing (adding works and putting things in alphabetical order), not undoing anything that I recall. SlimVirgin (talk) 20:34, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
- The redirects and the template. No big deal though. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 20:28, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
- Which edit are you talking about? SlimVirgin (talk) 20:27, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
- Not sure what you mean by a useful navigational aid. If the Luther article becomes too long, we can create a Martin Luther (resources) page; at the moment, it's not too long. SlimVirgin (talk) 17:37, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
Mediation for MA article
--Sefringle 19:41, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
Thank you. Corvus cornix 20:52, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
- Not sure if this was your intent, but you full protected rather than semi-protecting. Either the tag or the protection should be changed to match. Christopher Parham (talk) 20:59, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
Block?
Hello Jossi. I'm sorry to bother, but I just had to drop by and say that I disagree with this block of yours. In fact, I was just about to decline and remove this report from WP:AIV when I discovered that this user had already been blocked! This user made a single vandalism edit today (the last edit being from May 6th), and received a single level 1 bot warning for it. Warning not transgressed, and in fact no further edits were made in the past 3 hours. So why block? Doesn't seem adequate for this situation. Please review. Regards, Húsönd 01:21, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
- Hi again Jossi. You are currently online but have not yet replied to my comment. If it's okay with you, I shall unblock the user in question shortly. If you don't reply, I shall interpret your silence as "okay". Thank you. :-) Regards, Húsönd 01:44, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
- Sure. Go ahead.≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 01:51, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
Disruptive
I've seen a pattern of disruptive editing now, from the same editor, by inserting comments inside another editor's posting. Is this something we keep correcting or is there a guideline against it? Lsi john 02:09, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
- There is no guideline, but I have warned the user twice already. If he continues he could lose his editing privileges for disruption. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 02:10, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
- Including the AfD? Or twice in the current discussion page? I've moved his comments once before and he just now put them back in the same place. Lsi john 02:12, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
- * Interruptions: In some cases, it is OK to interrupt a long contribution, either by a short comment (as a reply to a minor point) or by a headline (If the contribution introduces a new topic. In that case, add "<small>Headline added to (reason) by ~~~~</small>"). In such cases, please add {{subst:interrupted|USER NAME OR IP}} before the interruption. See WP:TALK. I have informed the user. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 02:14, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks! Lsi john 02:20, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
Help With Harassment from 69.118.129.76
fyi, now that 69.118.129.76—who you have warned in the past—has been blocked from editing the List of people from Ridgefield, Connecticut page, he/she is now harassing me and other editors. unbelievable. —BaseballDetective 04:09, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
Caption for logo?
There seems to be something strange going on. Why is there one contributor asserting that without identifying a logo as a logo, that Wikipiedia is advertising. Now this person is changing massive amounts of articles claiming: "policy 1st - commercial; - assert facts; - selection & organization of facts". Is it just me that can't quite come to terms why is it so difficult to follow a simple Wikipedia guideline that "No caption needed when a logo is shown in an article about that product or organization -- Wikipedia:Captions#Special situations. The edits by In1984 seem very counterproductive. Thank you -- CZmarlin 06:59, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
RE: Non-tagged images from me
Okay fine delete them. I just wont add anymore pictures just in case this stuff happens again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wjs13 (talk • contribs)
I need help with an article
Can you take a quick look at an article for me? It was nominated for deletion and the administrator who nominated it took away the nomination but, did not remove the tag. I'm not sure if this was done by accident or purpose. JoeyC5 17:15, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
Wheel War
Removed. Information is in History. I have said my peace. This is a refactor. I would normally scratch it out, but the issue is no long requires this to be present. SanchiTachi 21:42, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
- I really do not know what is the issue and why you seem so upset. Let it be for a while. The article is now under OTRS review, and the page is protected. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 21:46, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
- Removed. Information is in History. I have said my peace. This is a refactor. I would normally scratch it out, but the issue is no long requires this to be present. SanchiTachi 22:00, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
Btw, the protection is about to expire and I'm sure that it will open up into a revert war. I'm not going to change the page anymore, nor edit the main page at all. I just wanted to warn you that it expires soon and will probably need to be monitored or protected again.SanchiTachi 22:03, 21 May 2007 (UTC)- Protection extended indef pending OTRS. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 22:45, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
- Removed. Information is in History. I have said my peace. This is a refactor. I would normally scratch it out, but the issue is no long requires this to be present. SanchiTachi 02:33, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
If you have a chance, could you look at Talk:St._John's_College,_U.S.. There is an IP address that keeps trying to add a personal website to the page. The person doesn't understand that the objection is primarily over personal websites not allowed in the external links section.SanchiTachi 02:46, 22 May 2007 (UTC)- I could not see such a link. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 03:49, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
User:Frondelet has removed it. Check the history or look at the talk page. It comes up quite a bit. "Once again, I am putting my web address up on this page. Suppressing the opposition is not winning the argument. Please be reasonable, Johnnies. PT" Thats just one quote by the fellow admitting to the link being his own personal website. I was just wondering if semi-protecting would fix the problem, as the person refuses to use a registered name.SanchiTachi 03:55, 22 May 2007 (UTC)- Note: the 3RR violation was dealt with on the 3RR page. This issue is resolved. SanchiTachi 04:39, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
- I could not see such a link. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 03:49, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
Removed. Information is in History. I have said my peace. This is a refactor. I would normally scratch it out, but the issue is no long requires this to be present. SanchiTachi 20:35, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
Check your e-mail. -- Donald Albury 00:13, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
Hi Jossi. Please send me an email, so I can retrieve your address! Best regards--Rainer P. 00:25, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
backdrop on Stephan Sinding pages
how are you, i was at the help desk and couldn't find stuff on taking down a photo just 4.11 Uploading a photo. I wasn't the one who took down the "Kjærlighetspar" photo on the intimacy page, i just signed out of my accout to post a myspace and youtube vandal pic hoping someone would take down all the pics seeing how none of the pics are specific to the intimacy sentences. it worked, but on the Stephan Sinding page the back frame and caption for the pict "Kjærlighetspar" ("Loving couple") is still up just like on the intimacy article. i think the pics were deleted by you since User:Jossi was the last undo, and a administrator. can you send some pointers on how to get rid of that backdrop on Stephan Sinding pages and not just take them down Please.
pict frame backdrop on Stephan Sinding pages
RE: Is this image okay?
Image:2007 W204 C-Class 200 Kompressor Avantgarde.jpg
See it was from the german wikipedia? I thought that would be allowed?
- That depends. Does the image from the German wikipedia has any copyright and source info? If so, please copy it from there. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 15:29, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
Landmark mediation
Hi Jossi
Hope you are well. As you probably know, there is a MedCab disscussion on the Landmark issues [[2]].
Do you have any comments or suggestions?
Very best wishes. DaveApter 10:33, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
- Hello Dave. I can see that involved editors are already expressed their viewpoints quite eloquently. Mediation is not easy, and it is better handled by those editors directly involved with the dispute. If I see anything that I can add, I will do so on the talk page. Injecting oneself in other editors' disputes is not a good thing, IMO. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 15:27, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
- Jossi, I agree with your assessment and conclusion. Thank you for the suggestion of ArbCom and RFCU. Both are being considered. IMO there is no hurry and the longer we wait, the more the edit patterns will be established. Thanks again. Lsi john 15:30, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
- The issue is the well-being of editors and actions that will enable the project to move forward without disruption. It is not about proving somebody wrong, Lsi. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 15:33, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
- Indeed. And gross violations of policy are easy to document, whereas subtle patterns require more time to emerge. It's not about proving anyone wrong. It's about not crying wolf. My perceptions may not be shared by other editors. And until there is an overwhelming concensus of opinion, then my opinion is simply my opinion. I will not waste time at ArbCom or RFCU without sufficient support and substance. And, IMO, that will emerge over time. I am (more or less) taking my lead from more experienced editors, who appear to be having similar issues. Lsi john 15:45, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
- The issue is the well-being of editors and actions that will enable the project to move forward without disruption. It is not about proving somebody wrong, Lsi. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 15:33, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
- Jossi, I agree with your assessment and conclusion. Thank you for the suggestion of ArbCom and RFCU. Both are being considered. IMO there is no hurry and the longer we wait, the more the edit patterns will be established. Thanks again. Lsi john 15:30, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
Help
Hello. I notice you recently welcomed user:DoubleNine to Wikipedia and that you are also an administrator. He left me the following note "22:22, 10 May 2007 DoubleNine (Talk | contribs) (1,950 bytes) (rv no need to it was restored)", so I am not sure he is actually "new". Nevertheless, please check his recent edits against me for I believe he is trying to censor me. In particular, please view my "missing" post to User talk:Woohookitty - he unilaterally removed it before the intended recipient could respond and attempted some sort of cover up. You can add Etherroyal to that list of puppets as well. I'd like to hear from an impartial voice. Please advise! Thanks, Mariokempes 19:22, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
Pleasure to be here Jossi Pleasure indeed. (DoubleNine 19:26, 22 May 2007 (UTC))
- Please do not delete other user's comments. If you need help with your disputes, I am willing to lend a hand. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 19:29, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
Okay. Thanks. I wanted to deal with it my self I guess its time for others to help me. I already had asked User talk:Woohookitty to help, but she did not find any problem. (DoubleNine 19:32, 22 May 2007 (UTC))
First things first... I believe all these users are puppets. They all sign off with a "(" before their name; they all make the same English spelling mistakes (I could provide a list); and they all have the habit of editing their own edits multiple times in a short span (including editing each others). This is more than a coincidence, since their purpose all seem to support (poorly at that) XGustaX's agenda. My experience with them has been on Talk:Argentina and Talk:Demographics of Argentina. I won't take this further myself, I'll leave it with you, but I ask that you help monitor the situation on the Argentina websites. Thanks!! Mariokempes 19:52, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
- Mario, can you give me a lists of all these suspected sockpuppets? Thanks. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 00:15, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
Jossi, I left a list with User talk:Woohookitty. Mariokempes 16:43, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
SanchiTachi
Dear Jossi:
Can you help in a problem with User:SanchiTachi, with whom you are already acquainted? Based on several messages from others beginning 29 April 2007 that he thus far has not deleted from User_talk:SanchiTachi, I am not alone in having objections to his behavior on WP. In case he has purged more criticism form his Talk page by the time you look at it, here is his current Talk page as archived.
His User page has a provocative entry entitled "The Following Words are Not Personal Attack Terms" (his User page begins, "If you are reading this, please remember the most important Wikipedia rule: Wikipedia:IAR. :)", but that is another matter). The words that it endorses using are "dick" and "bully", based on a misreading of two essays that his entry wiki-links. Without changing anything in his entry, I added a signed response underneath it.
While I was composing an explanation for my action on his Talk page, he posted User_talk:Finell#Please Do Not Vandalize My Talk Page on my Talk page, and he reverted my response to his entry (I did not re-revert). I replied on his talk page, he replied on mine, and I replied on his. He expunged the exchange from his Talk page, with the edit summary "Goodbye, Trolling", but it is archived here. While I did not do a detailed exploration of SanchiTachi's edits of his own Talk page, I quickly found this recent prior instance of his deleting several criticisms of his conduct.
To the best of my knowledge, he did not "[send my] name up for review", as his last post on my Talk page threatened. I actually wish he had (and even urged him to do so), as that would have resulted in a review of the matter by neutral third-parties.
Beyond simply WP:AGF, I truly believe that he is well-intentioned, but he is clueless about how to behave. He is hyper-aggressive and has a dual standard about WP policies as they apply to others' conduct versus how they apply to his conduct. Ironically, what he really needs to do is to follow the language that his own User page quotes from Don't be a dick.
I hope that you can come up with a constructive way to intervene. Thanks.
Finell (Talk) 01:34, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
- I do not know what I can do, really. He is already getting substantial feedback from many editors. If he persists with such aggressive behavior, a user RFC may be appropriate. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 02:23, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
- Please don't feed the Finell, Jossi. The above person came and vandalized my user page, which is clearly allowed to cite essays from Wikipedia. I never met that person before, but it is obvious that they would come to my page and then complain here that he is either following me back to my User page to vandalize (a violation of wiki policy) and/or is involved with (either association to or actually is) one involved on the on going dispute, in which other random users are accusing me of being a nazi, or other such things. Below is proof. SanchiTachi 03:49, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
1. The attack from Talk:Shane Ruttle Martinez: "SanchiTachi is being very immature, one should question his motives in editing this, perhaps he is a nazi and enemy of this shane person. --user:CmrdMariategui" note, the person is a brand new name and choses me as his first target- 2. The user Finell acted in the same manner and edited my user page without my permission, and then proceeded to attack me for removing his unfair criticism.
- 3. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:SanchiTachi&oldid=132607084 as you can see, this was clearly not warranted
- 4. I am allowed to delete items on my talk page. They can be viewed in the history. I don't care to archive such things, because I only want things that I am actively involved in on my talk page. The above user coming to you to criticize me on removal of information of my talk page is harassment.
- Thanks. SanchiTachi 03:49, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
User Someguy0830 has currently been Wikistalking me. He has come to a new page I created based on an expansion that will be done by the Wikiproject I am a member of. I am a member of the Warhammer 40,000 Wikiproject. We are currently expanding a new section to collection works titled "Graphic Novels" by the Warhammer game under one grouping to clean up other pages of the project and to help with organization. Someone from the comics section came and started complaining about the use of Graphic Novels (even though the page is designed only for what Warhammer 40,000 describes as "graphic novels" and is part of the warhammer page). Regardless, Someguy0830 decided to move the page and claim that it defied naming rules, even though our conventions are established on our wikiproject page Wikipedia:WikiProject Warhammer 40,000 that allows for proper nouns to be followed by (Warhammer 40,000), see here or here for examples.
This is the third place that user Someguy0830 has followed me. The 1st and 2nd involve you, as it was here on your page and on the Village Pump Page. Moving a page without consulting the original Wiki project, nor respecting the naming conventions of that group, and wiki stalking are three big offenses. Can you please ask him to stop? Yes, this actually troubles me. SanchiTachi 16:04, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
Dear Jossi: They posted notices against each other. Here is the one directed at SanchiTachi:[3]. It has attractied a lot of activity very quickly. Finell (Talk) 05:17, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
Thank you...
... for your polite and straightforward language in clarifying the use of the "Unbalanced" tag, at Talk:Mind Dynamics. You could have used harsh language, stated that one editor was wrong or another was right, or admonished someone. But you did not. Instead, you simply addressed the issue at hand politely, with appropriate language. This is most appreciated. Thank you. Yours, Smee 20:27, 23 May 2007 (UTC).
moved from PSI Seminars talk
- Dear Smee, yes, we all make mistakes, and we can afford ourselves and others the possibility to learn from them. As for your requests for "politeness", I would argue that is our actions and not just our language that need to be polite and respectful. Edit warring is not polite, busting 3RR is not polite, exerting ownership over articles is not polite, biting the newbies is not polite, etc. After a few months in Wikipedia, the public identity we create through our edits emerges, and we are then held accountable for our actions. Read WP:WRW#Wikipedia_keeps_an_Akashic_record. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 20:36, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
- Jossi, yes, thank you for pointing these things out. I would argue that I do exhibit, at times, some of those characteristics, and not others. I would also point out that you yourself exhibit many of these characteristics at times, and at times not. It takes two to edit war, however I am working on myself not to do this in the future. However, it is always SO much easier to deal with people if they are polite on talk pages, and virtually impossible to deal with them when they are not. Thank you for acknowledging that we all make mistakes and can give ourselves and others opportunity to learn from them. Smee 20:42, 23 May 2007 (UTC).
Thank you for being objective !
Concerning your good faith when you said that you would grant me unblock etc, I appreciate that very much. It's just that things are more complicated than they seem. I agree that Wikipedia is not and should not be a battleground between different ethnic groups, but unfortunately Duja's ban was guided by his prejudice against Bosniaks, most likely because I run blog which counter-attacks Srebrenica genocide denial. Duja is offended by my right to free speech, but I am not giving it up. Srebrenica Genocide Blog will continue to publish material which counter attacks claims of Srebrenica genocide deniers. You have acted in good faith and I do thank you. I do have every intention to stay away from conflicts; hopefully Duja and other Serbs do the same. It's time for peace. Bosniak 05:07, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
Stephan Sinding pages, thanks.
sorry for that long letter since you werent even the one who undid the last message. i didnt even notice the Click here to ask your question about editing Wikipedia on the New contributors' help page. if your the one who got intouch with User:Ziji to take down the back pict frame on the Stephan Sinding pages, thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.175.95.66 (talk • contribs)
I see you quickly reverted yourself, but any way I can prevent my removal of a large amount of inappropriate content being interpreted as a bad edit in the future? Thanks! Katr67 23:30, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
- That was a mistake on my part, I though it was vandalism. No worries. Maybe a better edit summary such as "removing unsuitable content added by anon XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX" will be helpful. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 00:28, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
How do I ask for protection on (a) page(s)?
How do i ask for protection on a page?
Please reply on my talk page
Thanks
Thanks for taking the time and effort to provide a 3rd opinion on Talk:Shakti mantras. TheRingess (talk) 20:28, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
My RfA
Hi Jossi. I'd like to thank you for your support of my RfA. It was closed at surprising 75/0/0, so I'm an admin now. MaxSem 22:43, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
Vandalism?
Since when has it been the policy of wikipedia to classify "relevancy and truth" as vandalism? (76.1.35.153 02:38, 26 May 2007 (UTC))
- I'm gona jump in on this one and take a guess... that your contribution wasn't sourced? Lsi john 02:40, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
Peacent's Rfa
Hello, Jossi. Thank you very much for your kind support in my recent Rfa, it succeeded! I feel thrilled and hope to live up to your expectations. If you see me doing anything inappropriate, please do tell me. Thanks once again. ~ Best regards, PeaceNT 04:58, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
- Sure... Hope to see you around spreading good.... ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 14:30, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
- Thank you for the advice! Take care :) PeaceNT 17:45, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
Luis Posada Carriles
Why did you tell me to see this article? It mentions and displays the declassified documents and provides links to Bosch, George H.W. Bush, Jeb Bush, and George Bush. Pistolpierre 04:19, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
Request for Mediation
Luis Posada Carriles
I was asking why there is nothing about Posada under the George W. Bush article. George W. Bush is protecting a known terrorist and violating his own Patriot Act and "Bush Doctrine" because he knows that his Dad paid him to blow up the jet in 1976. George W. Bush and George H.W. Bush are terrorists. The recently declassified FBI documents show the link between the CIA and Posada and the Cubana jet bombing. The whole world knows George H.W. Bush was the head of the CIA in 1976. Pistolpierre 04:54, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
Question
Have you banned anyone lately? Someone took out your page. --Whsitchy 04:59, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
- Yeah, more than once. Someone's got a grudge. Banpei 05:00, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
Nick Baker RFC summary
I wonder if you could have a look at this and give me your comments [4]. Thank you. Sparkzilla 15:30, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
As you are already an admin, this is just to verify technical acumen. The usual questions asked are: 1) Do you know how to check if a proxy is open, including scanning for possibly open ports and actually connecting via the proxy? 2) What method(s) have you used / do you use to check open proxies? 3) What experience do you have in the way of checking open proxies (i.e., have you worked as an IT or server admin, do you use open proxies yourself, etc.)? Even if you are confident of your technical competence, it is still good to answer them as they can clarify your own understanding and there might be particular advice that I could give based on the responses. —Centrx→talk • 20:49, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
- I use several tools to check for proxies, including TOR check online tools, nslookup, whois, as well as other tools from VisualWare. I am familiar with some of the most common proxy systems such as TOR and JAP. As always, I would welcome to learn of new tools and processes. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 21:58, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
- The other tool, the most effective tool is a portscan. You can use the online nmap provided my Amidaniel by contacting him for a username and password, or you can get nmap from http://insecure.org/nmap/ If you are at a university, business, or otherwise behind a firewall that might block ports, this may not be effective. Also, the Completewhois tool linked from the Wikiproject page is useful when judiciously interpreted for quickly detecting that a computer is an open proxy, though it does not catch many and if not read carefully will show false positives; for example, there will be red results, perhaps as many as three, if the IP being checked is a dynamic IP, but that is only because that is designed for checking against spam, and dynamic IP addresses generally should not be acting as mail servers so any such IP would likely be a spam server, but that is irrelevant for checking against open proxies because all dynamic IP addresses are then flagged by the Completewhois. —Centrx→talk • 02:48, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
Developments on List of people from Ridgefield, Connecticut
I assume that after blocking edits at this article you've been monitoring it, but I'd like to point out what's been going on there:
- I attempted to engage User:69.118.129.76 (hereafter "69") in a discussion on the talk page to see if we could come to a consensus, but despite an overlong discussion, we got nowhere. You might want to note the quality of his "argument".
- I broadened the discussion by inviting people who had edited the page and the Ridgefield, Connecticut page to also comment and conducted a straw poll to see where we stand. (I looked over WP:Canvass to make sure I was acting within the bounds of those rules, and I'm sure I am).
- The result of the straw poll has been that a number of editors agree on keeping that section and four "editors", including 69, have supported deletion (one other editor supported deletion and I changed that editor's mind).
- The four editors supporting deletion are all anonymous accounts and, besides 69, they are all single-purpose accounts. I have filed a complaint at Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets against "69" and the rest (see the complaint page Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/69.118.129.76). The talk pages of all four Wikipedia accounts have been formally notified of the complaint.
I don't know what to do next. Any suggestions? Noroton 02:30, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
SHA-1
User:Hairchrm/sha1 - Hairchrm 02:54, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
Anti-Vandalism Tool
Hi Jossi,
Please take a look at this diff [5]; and also please note that this user has not had any edits to the article or to the talk page recently. --Aminz 21:24, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
Notice
- This is a notice regarding WP:COI, at Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard. Smee 04:08, 30 May 2007 (UTC).
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Image:Datamatrix.png listed for deletion
An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, Image:Datamatrix.png, has been listed at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Sherool (talk) 09:08, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
thanks
thanks for voting on my Rfa, didn't work out though --Munkee madness 20:57, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
Hello
Hello, I think you over looked this report by accident: [6].Azerbaijani 21:59, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
Anti-Armenianism
I understand and I apologize for my behavior. However, it's obvious that Scannie came to Wikipedia to harass other users (in particular Armenians). To us, for one to say that there is no Armenian Genocide is like someone telling a Jew that there was no Holocaust. Kindest regards, Aivazovsky 00:09, 1 June 2007 (UTC)