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Deleted Article Vicky Manhas
I had requested to Draftify the Vicky Manhas article. As I was the creator of that article. Actually I am new user, and I created the article directly. Later, Aaqib Anjum Aafī guided me, that we have to draft the article first before publishing it to main space.
As requested to move the article into draft but you had deleted the article. My lot of time and research washed away.
If possible please move it to draft. So that I can find the reliable sources and make the draft update and I will publish it only when it qualifies WP:SNG WP:GNG TheChunky (talk) 12:10, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
- @TheChunky: Sure. I've restored it at Draft:Vicky Manhas. Please be aware that as there was a strong consensus to delete at the AfD, you will need to address the concerns there before moving it back to article space. If the article is restored without substantial changes, it will probably be speedily deleted. – Joe (talk) 13:41, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
Tolu' A Akinyemi Deletion Compare and Advise
Please i created this article when i read this this this and this also see this all on the mainspace, please kindly help me understand what these subject has that the deleted article lacks, this will help me make a better decision when creating related articles in the future.--Olatunde Brain (talk) 13:22, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Olatunde. The decision to delete this article was made at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tolu' A Akinyemi so you should read the arguments there to understand why. I will say that comparing an article to others that appear similar is generally an argument to avoid in deletion discussions. Decisions on whether to create or delete an article should be based solely on whether there is enough in-depth coverage in independent, reliable sources to write one. – Joe (talk) 13:50, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
- Joe Roe I debated at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tolu' A Akinyemi because i believe there are enough in-depth coverage in independent, reliable sources cited in the article. I don't think the nominator and others who voted fact-checked my point. Here in my discussion with the nominator, i made references to this this and this.--Olatunde Brain (talk) 14:13, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Brain7days: As an administrator, my job isn't to decide whether a topic is notable myself, it's just to assess the consensus after a discussion and press the appropriate buttons. I believe there was a clear consensus at the AfD to delete Tolu' A Akinyemi. If you think I made a mistake, you can get opinions from others at deletion review. But if I can offer you some advice: as much as it sucks to have your work deleted, it happens to most of us at some point, and eventually you just have to accept that the consensus is against you and move on. – Joe (talk) 14:35, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
- Joe Roe I debated at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tolu' A Akinyemi because i believe there are enough in-depth coverage in independent, reliable sources cited in the article. I don't think the nominator and others who voted fact-checked my point. Here in my discussion with the nominator, i made references to this this and this.--Olatunde Brain (talk) 14:13, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
Please found new independent reliable sources see this this this this please this is all i could find at the moment, is it enough? It took me weeks to draft this article. It hurt me to see it deleted on that grounds. Please advise me on what to do to keep it. There are some greek and spanish sources too but wouldn't it be too much? or should i list them in the deletion review as requested by Praxidicae --Olatunde Brain (talk) 18:45, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
Deletion review for Tolu' A Akinyemi
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Tolu' A Akinyemi. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Olatunde Brain (talk) 15:03, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for your work here, but one of them is red-linked. I didn't want to remove it without asking you. Meanwhile, I'm taking this to the Wikiproject to ask for opinions as we seem to use it quite a bit. Doug Weller talk 08:25, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Doug Weller: Thanks for reminding me. I meant to create a stub for it, but on closer inspection couldn't find that many sources. Maybe a WP:TOOSOON situation as it seems quite new. I'll remove it now. – Joe (talk) 07:55, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
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Your question to me
You asked me a question at the Medicine PD talk page ([1]), and it closed before I could answer, so I'll answer here. I was concerned that you had missed something, and apparently you had. Some editors pointed out after the workshop had closed that the evidence you cited was not actually diffs or in-context quotes, but were words and phrases that were picked out of discussions by using software designed to tag words with negative connotations. As such, some of the comments might, perhaps, have been appropriate in context, rather than negative comments directed at other editors. (Had I known that before the workshop phase had closed, I would have removed my reference to that evidence from my own workshop proposals, but I only realized it after.) So I was concerned that you might have been unaware of something that you would have wanted to be aware of, and maybe should have been aware. --Tryptofish (talk) 17:33, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
- @Tryptofish: Thanks for the explanation. My interpretation of Bluerasberry's comment was that he was using sentiment analysis as a rhetorical device rather than presenting the results of one (
Here are some phrases which Colin uses in this present version which I assert would trigger robotic sentiment analysis
). Regardless, the reason I singled out that piece of evidence is because, as Bradv also commented, it's extremely difficult to point to a set of diffs when the problem is sustained incivility rather than bright-line instances of misconduct. In those cases, I'm minded to give more weight on the assessment of a sensible and respected editor like Bluerasberry than to isolated diffs. – Joe (talk) 11:44, 4 June 2020 (UTC)- Joe thanks for considering the case and @Tryptofish: thanks for discussing, and thanks for considering the challenge of how difficult it is to make judgement on civility.
- Tryptofish - I wish to answer anything anyone asks of me, but in my view, text discussion on wiki is challenging and giving less benefit. I was considering whether there could be a lighter, more casual way to discuss, if anyone was interested. We now have meta:Wikimedia Meet natively installed in the Wikimedia platform, and consequently, we could set an agenda for a live discussion, invite anyone to speak, and publish the video on wiki. I would not want this to be too complicated, but if there are 4-8 people who wanted to have a chat in public, I wondered if that might be productive and if that could be a stress free positive experience.
- I have been trying to organize more public talks which keep to an agenda through an experiment at meta:Wikimedia Café. This was my first time being a party in an ArbCom case, and even entering it, I wondered how much of this could have been resolved if people had agreed to a voice chat in advance. I think it might be interesting for ArbCom cases to start with people in a voice chat room together talking to each other somehow. Blue Rasberry (talk) 12:53, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks, both of you. Joe, if ArbCom is moving away from diff-based evidence in some situations it might be good to tell the community about it, in order to get the most useful evidence. (As for the chat idea, I have no clue whether it would work, or whether it would be yelling instead of chatting. There might also be issues around editor privacy.) --Tryptofish (talk) 21:57, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
- This is also being discussed, with some comments directed particularly at Joe, at WT:ACN#Bookkeeping. --Tryptofish (talk) 22:54, 4 June 2020 (UTC)