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You have threatened and harassed me more than a dozen times and I've found the wikipedia policy on that. You're way out of line in doing so. [[User:Jimmy McDaniels|Jimmy McDaniels]] ([[User talk:Jimmy McDaniels#top|talk]]) 19:42, 14 August 2010 (UTC) |
You have threatened and harassed me more than a dozen times and I've found the wikipedia policy on that. You're way out of line in doing so. [[User:Jimmy McDaniels|Jimmy McDaniels]] ([[User talk:Jimmy McDaniels#top|talk]]) 19:42, 14 August 2010 (UTC) |
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Now why did you self revert if you're so self righteous in your belief? |
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# (cur | prev) 19:31, 14 August 2010 Yworo (talk | contribs) (17,698 bytes) (Undid revision 378907882 by Yworo (talk) self-revert and tag for verification) (undo) [automatically accepted][[User:Jimmy McDaniels|Jimmy McDaniels]] ([[User talk:Jimmy McDaniels#top|talk]]) 19:44, 14 August 2010 (UTC) |
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Hello, I assume you were the IP editor? Please post all article related discussion on the article talk page, not my user talk page. I'm watching the article, so there's no need to duplicate your posts. Yworo (talk) 08:51, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
will do. sorry about that.Jimmy McDaniels (talk) 16:49, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
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, but you should read our guide to appealing blocks first. Fences&Windows 11:24, 11 August 2010 (UTC)The block was lifted after I had registered for an account as requested. There wasn't any block evasion on my part at all. Look into it and you will see.
I have not evaded anything and not sure why I am being blocked. I signed up for an account as asked and started editing without doing anything nefarious.Jimmy McDaniels (talk) 21:18, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
- Um, I said that you should request unblocking of your IP before creating an account. You didn't do that. As long as your IP is still blocked, you as an individual are not allowed to edit, even if you were somehow able to create an account. That's called block evasion and lengthens your block. Yworo (talk) 22:11, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
- I can see the misunderstanding. If you are blocked on any IP address and account, you need to either sit out the block or appeal it successfully before you edit again. I will unblock this account tomorrow, when the original block on your IP address would have expired. Fences&Windows 23:42, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
good idea
As I have found, the best thing to do is to allow your article to float free in the wind, attempting to write it yourself is a pointless worthless disruptive idea, just allow wikipedia policies and guidelines protect it and forget about it. Off2riorob (talk) 22:47, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
What are you talking about?Jimmy McDaniels (talk) 22:53, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
- You. Off2riorob (talk) 22:57, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
If you have something to say say it. If you have some proof of something prove it. Jimmy McDaniels (talk) 22:59, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
I have said it. I don't need to prove anything, your edit history is proof that whoever you are you have a disruptive conflict of interest in this article, we really need to stop your disruption and stop you editing it at all.Off2riorob (talk) 23:02, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
Appeal to the powers that be then. Right now, I am editing and adding material in accordance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines Jimmy McDaniels (talk) 23:06, 13 August 2010 (UTC)and if you have an issue with it discuss it.
We are the powers that be, experienced editors and contributors. You are adding poor quality promotional and conflict of interest type content in a way that is totally disruptive to the article about a living person. You are straight off a block and back at it, yawn, do you think this is going to end in your desired outcome? Off2riorob (talk) 23:11, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
the powers that be have an inherent bias and lack neutrality as demonstrated by the tag on the page. How is what I am adding any different than what you are adding except it's the opposite of negative? That's hardly promotional particularly when other articles here have similar content. Right now, you're threatening me and I am not doing anything but adding material to improve this article as the tags at the top of the page says. If you have specific objections take it to the talk page just like everyone else is supposed to do
I am not threatening you, it is your editing that is threatening your continued contributions here. I am telling you what you are doing and what I think the outcome will be. Off2riorob (talk) 23:22, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
I just reread your comments here. I see nothing that you are telling me that is helpful or constructive. Instead, you are threatening to have me blocked or block me and making blanket statements about the editing I am doing. This is open source and everyone is entitled to come in and edit and I am simply adding material that improves the article. As I said, it is my opinion that you and the experienced editors who have worked on this story are inherently biased and the tags at the top of the story underscore that. Jimmy McDaniels (talk) 23:27, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
My comments suggesting you stop editing the article because you are over involved and have a conflict of interest are the helpful bits, I have seen such as this occur multiple times in wikipedia and all the previous cases ended the same way, in the long time restriction of the disruptive editor. Off2riorob (talk) 23:41, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
As I said above, I am not doing anything damaging to this article so please stop. If I doing anything disruptive in the present tense I am sure you will let me know. And the tag says "may" have a conflict of interest. Not does. So please refrain from making definitive accusations for which you have no evidence. I've seen people edit articles by others on here with the same passion yet they apparently do not have a conflict of interest. Right now, I am working to improve this article. That's allJimmy McDaniels (talk) 00:02, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
"Like everyone else, including me, you can take it to the talk page and discuss it there"
When you make a comment like this, please start the conversation on the talk page. Please see our BRD cycle. When your edit has been reverted, especially when it has been reverted twice, it is your responsibility to initiate the discussion on the talk page. Insisting via edit comments that the other editor has to do it is considered rude. When you're the one adding the material; you are the one who starts the discussion. Yworo (talk) 00:59, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
- I really wish you would stop picking on me. As I said, I am simply trying to improve this article. Now you're policing me about what qualifies as "rudeness"? Really? The reverting of the edit was unwarranted. The editor who reverted it said the cite was made by a "nobody." I corrected it and provided the link to wikipedia that the person who made the cite was actually a "somebody." Jimmy McDaniels (talk) 05:33, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
I have read it and it looks like you're not following it. It's actually unbelievable. You don't have to like me but please stop accusing me of doing things I haven't done. I am improving this article or at least trying to. Jimmy McDaniels (talk) 17:44, 14 August 2010 (UTC)Jimmy McDaniels (talk) 17:42, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
- I've posted both on the article talk page and on your talk page. You are not discussing. You are edit warring. That's not an accusation, that's a fact. Yworo (talk) 18:27, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
Kurtz
You have to source the fact that Kurtz was referred to in Off the Record. Otherwise you cannot include it. It's irrelevant whether Kurtz was referred to in News Junkie. Yworo (talk) 18:03, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
- By the way, you've broken the three-revert rule. You've put the uncited data about Kurtz back in twice, and you've put back the info about Jill Stewart twice. That's four reverts in 24 hours. Revert anything again or put back anything you've put in before that another editor has taken out, and I'll have to report you for edit warring. Please read our policy on edit warring thoroughly. Partial reverts count as reverts, and the four reverts do not have to involve the same material, only the same article. Yworo (talk) 18:13, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
Kurtz says so in the article.Jimmy McDaniels (talk) 18:28, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
- I've read the article three times. He doesn't say anything of the sort. Yworo (talk) 18:29, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
STOP threatening me and stop taking out legitimate and appropriate material that is placed in accordance with wikipedia policies and rules. I reverted it based on statements that Jill Stewart was a "nobody." I then included the wikipedia entry link to show she was a somebody. I fixed the broken link that you removed. I am going to do you one better. I am going to report you for harassment. Jimmy McDaniels (talk) 18:34, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
- Go ahead. But read WP:BOOMARANG first. I've not done anything wrong. You keep putting in unsourced material, repeatedly. The three-revert rule doesn't take into account the reasons for your reverts at all. It's a simple numeric limit. Yworo (talk) 18:37, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
You have engaged in edit warring. And you have reverted my entries more than three times. And you have threatened and harassed me. So yes, I will be reporting you because you seem to be very angry and dislike the fact that someone is trying to improve this articleJimmy McDaniels (talk) 18:43, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
"You keep putting in unsourced material..." That is a flat out lie! I have linked to everything I put in. I did not link to the Kurtz assertion because it is already in the story. Stop making things up. And stop harassing meJimmy McDaniels (talk) 18:44, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
- I have not reverted you more than 3 times in 24 hours. The Jill Stewart material was reverted by other editors. You've reverted four or maybe five times in the last 24 hours. And you are completely ignoring the fact that Kurtz doesn't say anything about being mentioned in Off the Record. In fact, he doesn't even say he read it, only that he read a press release and possibly other promotional materials. Please quote the portion of the article you are referring to. Nowhere does Kurtz make any mention of being referred to by Leopold. Yworo (talk) 18:46, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
I will not engage with you anymore because of your constant harassing. I would like a neutral party to deal with this. The edit history shows you have reverted my additions more than three times in 24 hours. Stop harassing me, please. Jimmy McDaniels (talk) 18:56, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
- So you won't supply a quote showing that the article says something you claim it says. What a joke. Clearly you know full well it's not supported by your citation and you are just trying to game the system. Consider yourself reported for breaking 3RR. Yworo (talk) 19:01, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
Jimmy McDaniels (talk) 19:03, 14 August 2010 (UTC) You have just hit four times where you reverted my work. Most recently a minute ago and this below. If you have an issue with Kurtz you can include "citation needed" but you decided to remove it. The "look inside" feature on amazon.com shows Kurtz was criticized and I have been working to find other material to support that as well. Now it is you who are engaging in edit warring. And you have refused to stop. Jimmy McDaniels (talk) 19:03, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
- (cur | prev) 07:13, 14 August 2010 Yworo (talk | contribs) (17,079 bytes) (→California Energy Crisis: neither link in this "reference" works, remove) (undo) [automatically accepted]
- (cur | prev) 07:05, 14 August 2010 Yworo (talk | contribs) (17,581 bytes) (→Career: quote the report rather than inaccurately summarize it) (undo) [automatically accepted]
- (cur | prev) 06:49, 14 August 2010 Yworo (talk | contribs) (17,383 bytes) (→Career: this bit is unsourced) (undo) [automatically accepted]
- Number 2 is not a revert. It's an addition.
- Also, an unbroken series of edits counts as one edit. Read the policy. Yworo (talk) 19:04, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
- And where's the quotation from the Kurtz article that supports your addition. Where? Yworo (talk) 19:05, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
Fine, that makes three instead of four in the course of 24 hours. Yet when I fixed the link you accused me of putting material back in that was removed. I simply fixed the link. And that counts as OK too.
I have reported you already based on the fact that you've been harassing me and threatening me and engaging in edit warring and not following your own advice. You're too emotionally involved in this article and should not be editing it. I'm happy to be removed from editing it as long as you are as well. Jimmy McDaniels (talk) 19:08, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
I think your behavior here underscores your emotional involvement. You appear to be becoming unhinged. As I said, I looked at "look inside" on Amazon.com and saw the Kurtz criticism (which anyone can do) and now am working to find a good source that discusses that. And Off the Record is listed on Amazon too. So don't you dare accuse me of trying to game the system. You really should take a deep breath. Jimmy McDaniels (talk) 19:11, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
- You never said that. Show me the diff. You said Kurtz admitted it in his own article. He didn't. And the book News Junkie was published after the Kurtz article, so it's irrelevant as an implied reason for Kurtz's criticism. If anything, it's retaliation by Leopold. So go tell it to the judge. Your number of reverts in the past 24 hours is actually 6. Yworo (talk) 19:20, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
Have told it to the judge. And again, Kurtz's article came out before Leopold's book was published so how can it be retaliation? That doesn't add up genius. And my reverts were all warranted, with the debatable exception for one.Jimmy McDaniels (talk) 19:37, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
You have threatened and harassed me more than a dozen times and I've found the wikipedia policy on that. You're way out of line in doing so. Jimmy McDaniels (talk) 19:42, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
Now why did you self revert if you're so self righteous in your belief?
- (cur | prev) 19:31, 14 August 2010 Yworo (talk | contribs) (17,698 bytes) (Undid revision 378907882 by Yworo (talk) self-revert and tag for verification) (undo) [automatically accepted]Jimmy McDaniels (talk) 19:44, 14 August 2010 (UTC)