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Msnicki and I certified it. Please restore. <small>[[User talk:NE Ent|NE Ent]]</small> 01:35, 21 October 2014 (UTC) |
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: Hang on, I was just coming to explain to you in detail why I deleted it. And no, it was not properly certified because your diffs of alleged attempt at dispute resolution were from 2012. You can't point back two years and start an RFC now. Msnicki's diffs were from 2014 and did not appear to be the same dispute. If you want to have an RFC/U you need to make sure you follow the [[Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/User_conduct#Minimum_requirements|minimum requirements]]. I have more thoughts on the matter and would be happy to discuss this with you, and if necessary, recover any deleted content which you don't have a copy of in case you want to try again. [[User:Jehochman|Jehochman]] <sup>[[User talk:Jehochman|Talk]]</sup> 01:41, 21 October 2014 (UTC) |
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A thing I forgot to say
Hello Jehochman. I noticed a recent edit from you and remembered something I once meant to tell you, but had not. You may remember a related discussion on Jimbo's TP where I entered the discussion: light on background and facts. I spoke to you with the negative sentiments of bias alone. All the while, as I opined, my conscious nagged at me, and conflicted my thoughts. I knew I had seen your user name many times, and I was pretty sure I was always favorably impressed.
Within a month to six weeks after we interacted on Jimbo's TP, I saw your involvement in a few "marquee discussions". Without equivocation, you are a "first class" administrator; one that I fully support. I am glad that you handled the ridicule of our discussion with such courage, and calm strength. Regarding the day on Jimbo's page, when I spoke to you with both knees jerking, I apologize, and stand corrected. Sincerely—John Cline (talk) 08:05, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you for the kind words. I'll admit that had I forgotten about that conversation, but please don't feel sorry, there's nothing wrong with disagreeing. Jehochman Talk 16:19, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you Jehochman. My apology is not for disagreeing, it is for being disagreeable. Cheers.—John Cline (talk) 22:24, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
Case Opened: Banning Policy
You recently offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Banning Policy. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Banning Policy/Evidence. Please add your evidence by September 16, 2014, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Banning Policy/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. For the Arbitration Committee, Seddon talk 12:28, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
Concerning Talk:Evolution
Please be aware that the boilerplates at the top of Talk:Evolution clearly state that the talkpage is for discussions about improving the article only, and under no circumstances are editors to be permitted to misuse and abuse the talkpage as a soapbox or a forum thread from which to demand that the article be rewritten into religiously inspired anti-science propaganda, as per WP:SOAPBOX and WP:NOTAFORUM. It's blatantly obvious that User Frank M Martin was not editing in good faith as, in his original screed and only edit, he was using an Appeal to the Majority fallacy to claim that evolution is false because more people allegedly believe in Creationism than in evolution.--Mr Fink (talk) 16:00, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
- This might be true, but a heavy handed response will encourage more Battles. Jehochman Talk 17:58, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
- Leaving nonsense like that on the talk page will only encourage more creationist trolling. We have other articles about creationist views on evolution but this article is purely about the science. Never feed the trolls.Charles (talk) 18:37, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
- A gentle approach is commendable, but, unfortunately, I've found the opposite approach more effective: these particular editors, both the misguided and the Saboteurs For Jesus, are determined to use Wikipedia talkpages as a platform to both browbeat other editors into agreeing with them as well as to disseminate anti-science propaganda. I've found out firsthand that such editors are immune to subtle hints, and take all attempts at gentleness as an open invitation to continue their unconstructive editing. The most effective way to prevent talkpages from being misused as an ideological battleground is to delete such threads the moment they pop up, otherwise, these editors will never get the hint.--Mr Fink (talk) 18:43, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
- Just because they are trying to have an ideological battle does not mean you should join the battle because you are right. No, you should reject battle tactics. Leave their stupid comments in place and the replies. I don't like that you support the removal of my comment. Are you suggesting that I'm a troll? Jehochman Talk 19:10, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
- Nobody has suggested you are a troll.Charles (talk) 20:44, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
- Charles was saying "Don't feed the trolls." Furthermore, leaving the creationist and anti-science trolls' comments and the replies in place only encourages other editors to further ignore the boilerplate warnings that clearly state how the talkpages are for discussing improvements to the articles, and are not for forum threads and soapboxes, what with no consequences, and all.--Mr Fink (talk) 04:19, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
- Nobody has suggested you are a troll.Charles (talk) 20:44, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
- Just because they are trying to have an ideological battle does not mean you should join the battle because you are right. No, you should reject battle tactics. Leave their stupid comments in place and the replies. I don't like that you support the removal of my comment. Are you suggesting that I'm a troll? Jehochman Talk 19:10, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
User:Sprinkler Court
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
You did the correct move on User:Sprinkler Court. Read this article from Buzfeed about him: GOP Opposition Research Firm Is Editing Democratic Politicians’ Wikipedia Pages. -- Alexf(talk) 21:44, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
- Good call on that, although their reaction that their edits are not disruptive should produce some interesting results down the road. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 19:52, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
- Apparently he or the firm he works for is going to appeal his block. The firm's executive director said, "We've consulted long-time Wikipedia editors, don't believe the blocking will stand, and are going to appeal." GOP firm plans appeal after researcher is blocked by Wikipedia Jinkinson talk to me 23:43, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
- "I have never been paid to make any edits to any pages. America Rising, the firm that I work for, is not paid by its clients to make edits to Wikipedia. It's not part of our job description. I am just genuinely interested in politics and current events." He's just a curious citizen, yet the executive directory of his advocacy firm is going to appeal his block after consulting "long-time Wikipedia editors". Second Quantization (talk) 14:52, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
Case opened
You recently offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Landmark Worldwide. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Landmark Worldwide/Evidence. Please add your evidence by October 30, 2014, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Landmark Worldwide/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. For the Arbitration Committee, S Philbrick(Talk) 01:52, 16 October 2014 (UTC)--S Philbrick(Talk) 01:52, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
Rfcu
Msnicki and I certified it. Please restore. NE Ent 01:35, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
- Hang on, I was just coming to explain to you in detail why I deleted it. And no, it was not properly certified because your diffs of alleged attempt at dispute resolution were from 2012. You can't point back two years and start an RFC now. Msnicki's diffs were from 2014 and did not appear to be the same dispute. If you want to have an RFC/U you need to make sure you follow the minimum requirements. I have more thoughts on the matter and would be happy to discuss this with you, and if necessary, recover any deleted content which you don't have a copy of in case you want to try again. Jehochman Talk 01:41, 21 October 2014 (UTC)