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Now that consensus has been reached at [[Spock]], I feel it necessary to point out in light of comments like this [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Spock&diff=prev&oldid=431530515] that Wikipedia is not a [[WP:BATTLE|battleground]]. There are no winners or losers here, only editors trying to work together. Your approach with me was instantly and unnecessarily combative. When I offered you praise and [[WP:TEA]] you accused me of "passive aggressive trolling." I was not; I was attempting to reset the discussion to a more civil tone. I strongly suggest that you read [[WP:BATTLE]] thoroughly and take it to heart that Wikipedia is a group effort and do your best in the future to [[WP:AGF|assume good faith]] with other editors before becoming combative with them and turning your position into a competition. Now you can blow me off, you can come back with more non-productive behavior, or you can just ignore this message and miss it for the sincere suggestion that it is. Despite what you may believe I am happy to see such zeal in an editor, but it's important to temper that zeal with the policies that define Wikipedia's success and to remember the subject on which you are arguing. I'm glad you are an editor here and (again) I look forward to working with you in the future. [[User:Erikeltic|<span style="color:#337533"><B>Erikeltic</B>]]</span> <sup><span style="font-style:italic">([[User_talk:Erikeltic|<span style="color:#337533">Talk]]</span>)</span></sup> 17:17, 31 May 2011 (UTC) |
Now that consensus has been reached at [[Spock]], I feel it necessary to point out in light of comments like this [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Spock&diff=prev&oldid=431530515] that Wikipedia is not a [[WP:BATTLE|battleground]]. There are no winners or losers here, only editors trying to work together. Your approach with me was instantly and unnecessarily combative. When I offered you praise and [[WP:TEA]] you accused me of "passive aggressive trolling." I was not; I was attempting to reset the discussion to a more civil tone. I strongly suggest that you read [[WP:BATTLE]] thoroughly and take it to heart that Wikipedia is a group effort and do your best in the future to [[WP:AGF|assume good faith]] with other editors before becoming combative with them and turning your position into a competition. Now you can blow me off, you can come back with more non-productive behavior, or you can just ignore this message and miss it for the sincere suggestion that it is. Despite what you may believe I am happy to see such zeal in an editor, but it's important to temper that zeal with the policies that define Wikipedia's success and to remember the subject on which you are arguing. I'm glad you are an editor here and (again) I look forward to working with you in the future. [[User:Erikeltic|<span style="color:#337533"><B>Erikeltic</B>]]</span> <sup><span style="font-style:italic">([[User_talk:Erikeltic|<span style="color:#337533">Talk]]</span>)</span></sup> 17:17, 31 May 2011 (UTC) |
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:You suggested that my "... approach with [you] was instantly and unnecessarily combative." [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jake_Fuersturm&diff=0&oldid=431491848] I would suggest that [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Spock&curid=53571&diff=431407217&oldid=431398121 this reversion] (and the associated edit summary) you posted ''after'' I'd already attempted to engage you in the [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AErikeltic&action=historysubmit&diff=431392919&oldid=429375245 Discussion] segment of [[WP:BRD]] didn't help. -- [[User:Jake Fuersturm|Jake Fuersturm]] ([[User talk:Jake Fuersturm|talk]]) 17:28, 31 May 2011 (UTC) |
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::Your ''very first'' post about the "Spock principle" was about the impending edit war; you were clearly already ready for just such a thing to take place. I hope in the future you won't be. If you choose to ignore my sincere advice, that is your prerogative. The discussion is over for me and I refuse to participate in any more finger pointing or needless escalations of a [[WP:STICK|dead issue]]. [[User:Erikeltic|<span style="color:#337533"><B>Erikeltic</B>]]</span> <sup><span style="font-style:italic">([[User_talk:Erikeltic|<span style="color:#337533">Talk]]</span>)</span></sup> |
Revision as of 17:35, 31 May 2011
Going inactive. I've spent far too much time here over the past while, and the process has become, quite simply, frustrating. Therefore I've decided to take a break from Wikipedia. I may pop up on occasion for a visit. Take care! (If you need to get hold of me for some reason, just send me an email). -- Jake Fuersturm
Ack, sorry, my mistake on the second point, you're quite right. With that said, it's not in my opinion clearly meeting the NFCC either. I'd be happy to restore it and list it at XFD so that we can get a firm decision one way or the other, if you're agreeable to that. Again, sorry for getting the deletion wrong. Lankiveil (speak to me) 07:05, 29 May 2011 (UTC).
- Not to mention that Spock is very much "alive"! :)
- That's cool - I'd appreciate it going through whatever channels/processes it would have normally been subjected to - there was actually a fairly lengthy discussion in progress on the file's talk page, but seeing as how the only two participants were the uploader (i.e. me) and the deletion nominator, I'm thinking we probably need some third parties involved to get a proper consensus going.
- Thanks! -- Jake Fuersturm (talk) 07:14, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
Possibly unfree File:Star Trek-Jacob Kogan-Child Spock.jpg
A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Star Trek-Jacob Kogan-Child Spock.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files because its copyright status is unclear or disputed. If the file's copyright status cannot be verified, it may be deleted. You may find more information on the file description page. You are welcome to add comments to its entry at the discussion if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. --Lankiveil (speak to me) 07:34, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
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Now that consensus has been reached at Spock, I feel it necessary to point out in light of comments like this [1] that Wikipedia is not a battleground. There are no winners or losers here, only editors trying to work together. Your approach with me was instantly and unnecessarily combative. When I offered you praise and WP:TEA you accused me of "passive aggressive trolling." I was not; I was attempting to reset the discussion to a more civil tone. I strongly suggest that you read WP:BATTLE thoroughly and take it to heart that Wikipedia is a group effort and do your best in the future to assume good faith with other editors before becoming combative with them and turning your position into a competition. Now you can blow me off, you can come back with more non-productive behavior, or you can just ignore this message and miss it for the sincere suggestion that it is. Despite what you may believe I am happy to see such zeal in an editor, but it's important to temper that zeal with the policies that define Wikipedia's success and to remember the subject on which you are arguing. I'm glad you are an editor here and (again) I look forward to working with you in the future. Erikeltic (Talk) 17:17, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
- You suggested that my "... approach with [you] was instantly and unnecessarily combative." [2] I would suggest that this reversion (and the associated edit summary) you posted after I'd already attempted to engage you in the Discussion segment of WP:BRD didn't help. -- Jake Fuersturm (talk) 17:28, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
- Your very first post about the "Spock principle" was about the impending edit war; you were clearly already ready for just such a thing to take place. I hope in the future you won't be. If you choose to ignore my sincere advice, that is your prerogative. The discussion is over for me and I refuse to participate in any more finger pointing or needless escalations of a dead issue. Erikeltic (Talk)