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“Hiiraan remains one of the most reliable news sites in the Somali media landscape. Hiiraan is regularly citied in academia, books and international media. Hiiraan website also hosts advertisements for international bodies, government agencies and NGOs” You two seem like two secessionists who aren’t content that Khatumo has exited the Somaliland agreement. I’ve now contacted an administrator who an expert in Somalia affairs all of your edits will also be reverted because of this bias you display. [[User:Cayn Historian|Cayn Historian]] ([[User talk:Cayn Historian|talk]]) 10:26, 18 November 2021 (UTC) |
“Hiiraan remains one of the most reliable news sites in the Somali media landscape. Hiiraan is regularly citied in academia, books and international media. Hiiraan website also hosts advertisements for international bodies, government agencies and NGOs” You two seem like two secessionists who aren’t content that Khatumo has exited the Somaliland agreement. I’ve now contacted an administrator who an expert in Somalia affairs all of your edits will also be reverted because of this bias you display. [[User:Cayn Historian|Cayn Historian]] ([[User talk:Cayn Historian|talk]]) 10:26, 18 November 2021 (UTC) |
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:{{ping|Cayn Historian}} In Wikipedia discussions, it is not allowed to attack an individual's political or social position by assigning, such as "secessionists". See [[WP:NPA]].--[[User:Freetrashbox|Freetrashbox]] ([[User talk:Freetrashbox|talk]]) 11:35, 18 November 2021 (UTC) |
:{{ping|Cayn Historian}} In Wikipedia discussions, it is not allowed to attack an individual's political or social position by assigning, such as "secessionists". See [[WP:NPA]].--[[User:Freetrashbox|Freetrashbox]] ([[User talk:Freetrashbox|talk]]) 11:35, 18 November 2021 (UTC) |
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In Wikipedia it is also not good to avoid facts referring to Hiiraan as a tabloid when it is used in academic papers. I’ve escalated this matter to an administrator as you guys have reverted this several times. [[User:Cayn Historian|Cayn Historian]] ([[User talk:Cayn Historian|talk]]) 23:54, 18 November 2021 (UTC) |
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False edit summaries
Hello. Earlier today you made two edits, in which your edit summaries were highly misleading. This edit was described as "Fixed typo", when you actually removed sourced information about the lack of voter registration. In this edit you claimed you had "Removed uncited sentences", yet one of the sentences you removed had a citation. In both cases the information you removed was somewhat negative towards the referendum. Please be aware that editors are expected to upload a neutral point of view when editing. Thanks, Number 57 15:16, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
@Number 57: Hi, thank you for your feedback. I will be more clear with future edit summaries. Jacob300 (talk) 16:59, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
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Please explain how this is a hoax? The single citation there states it exists. ALso what about this is a hoax? Praxidicae (talk) 21:31, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Praxidicae, thank you for your message. I incorrectly tagged the pages for a "speedy deletion" instead of a "proposed deletion" since they lack significant coverage in sources. Jacob300 (talk) 21:55, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
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@Diannaa: Hi, thank you for your feedback and for letting me know about this practice. I will ensure to take this on in my future contributions. Jacob300 (talk) 19:00, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
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Could you make an SVG file of please? Al-Burcaawi (talk) 21:14, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
Warning vandal users
I appreciate that you are reverting vandal edits. However could you please warn the vandalising users on their talk page? I think you would find Wikipedia:Template messages/User talk namespace useful regarding this.Kajjul (talk) 11:17, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
Hi @Kajjul:, thank you for letting me know. I appreciate the assistance. Many thanks Jacob300 (talk) 16:25, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
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Hi @Chipmunkdavis:, thank you for your message. I will certainly take this on for future reversion reasonings. Many thanks Jacob300 (talk) 17:17, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
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Fixed. Many thanks. Jacob300 (talk) 08:37, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
Map ✍🏽
Hello @Jacob300: Sorry for the inconvenience. I know perfectly that you are busy but I want to ask you for a small request.
Could you draw for me a map of Somaliland ethnic group?
MAP LIKE THIS!
https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Somalia_ethnic_grps_2002.jpg#mw-jump-to-license
I want to make a page on a component about the people of Somaliland
I hope you respond to me 🙏🏽 Thank you very much 👏🏽 Siirski (talk) 15:30, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
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March 2021
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Dabaqabad (talk) 14:21, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
April 2021
Hi it appears that you recently started to revert sourced content from the Badhan article. You are also vandalising [1],[2] I’m just here to say you can always discuss before you revert, user shirshore is actually having a hard time building this encyclopaedia because you constantly keep reverting his edits and call it a stable version. You keep on claiming that every edit Dabaqabad does is perfect and I think that this should stop. If you disagree with something please discuss, Cheers: Rashicy (talk) 10:14, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
- Hi @Rashicy:, thank you for your message.
- I have reverted the Badhan article to that of Yamaguchi先生. Large swathes of the article were unsourced. Please see my entry on the talk page of the article in question.This does not equate to vandalism, please feel free to reintroduce material to the article with sources.
- Also can you please point out where my vandalism of Said Abdullahi Dani? I reverted an edit which claimed that person the article is about died in Israel. Evidently, vandalism and untrue.
- Finally, please point out where I have reverted Shirshore's edits without a reason? I would also be keen to know how you are also aware of this editor "having a hard time building this encyclopaedia".
Hey Jacob you asked how you are giving this user a hard time to build an encyclopaedia the user keeps on begging and is pleading for you to stop. Now the Abdullahi Sanj page never said he was born in Israel, in fact it said that he was born in Zanzibar a place not to far from Mogadishu or as I call it Xamar. You keep on reverting other users edits and restore it to Dabaqad’s version. In your edit summary you note that your fixing it up. I hope you can hear where I’m coming from thanks: Rashicy (talk) 22:45, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
- Hi @Rashicy:, thank you for your message.
- In regards to my edit on Said Abdullahi Dani, please reference where I vandalised. There is no basis to your claim. Furthermore, please show where I reverted Shirshore at all on this article.
- Additionally, how are you aware of Shirshore "having a hard time building this encyclopaedia"? He has not posted on my talkpage nor on any of the talk pages of the articles you have mentioned.
Hi @Jacob300: Thanks for responding. You claim you did not vandalise the Said Cabdullahi Dani article however you removed content and replaced it with original info, yiu even didn’t leave a hold reason on your edit summary. You continue to follow Shirshore on the Badhan article this user pleads for you to stop reverting his edits and from what I’m seeing this user is struggling to build this encyclopaedia because of you.[3] Cheers: Rashicy (talk) 10:06, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
- Hi @Rashicy:,
- Please show where I vandalised Said Abdullahi Dani. You are making bold unsubstantiated claims.
- Also, I have responded to your comment on the Badhan article above. It's in bad faith to suggest I am following around Shirshore to undo his edits and you have provided zero evidence for this. You are also yet to answer my question of how you know this user is "struggling to build this encyclopaedia". It is strange to see you speak on behalf of another user.
Hi I have came to answer you question, this user is inferring that he has a hard time by pleading for you to stop and from MY perspective you keep on ignoring him thanks: Rashicy (talk) 00:33, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
- Hi @Rashicy:,
- Again, please show where Shirshore has "inferred" that he has having hard time because of myself. Also, where he has "pleaded" for me to stop (and exactly what this is referring to).
[4] here this is where Shirshire is really getting annoyed at you if you read his Edit summary you would know that this user is actually getting tired and annoyed, you provided no reason and reverted all of his edits, this user was actually trying to improve the page. Thanks: Rashicy (talk) 22:42, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
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I just want say thank you for defending SL articles. Siirski (talk) 19:21, 15 April 2021 (UTC) |
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Hi @Shirshore:,
As you aware, there is a currently an undergoing discussion to reach a consensus on the infoboxes of disputed towns in Eastern Somaliland. I have reverted the pages where a consensus is yet to be reached as explained in my edit summaries.
Many thanks Jacob300 (talk) 17:12, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
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Reliable source?
Please tell me about this editing. According to the "About Us" section, https://www.somalilandfirst.com/ is just a "movement that comprises members of Somaliland citizens and Somaliland intellectuals within the Republic of Somaliland and the diaspora" and I was not sure what kind of organization it was. What is the basis for your belief that this literature is "reliable"? --Freetrashbox (talk) 12:38, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
Hi @Freetrashbox:,
Thank you for your message. I have replaced the source you have tagged and forgot to remove this when replaced. I was not suggesting that this was a reliable source.
Thanks for pointing this out.
Regards Jacob300 (talk) 16:00, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
Sources are reliable
Hiiran is a reliable source a one of the most famous Somali news websites why did you remove the source ? And revert it. If you carry on reverting I will just contact a Wikipedia administrator to fix this permanently. Cayn Historian (talk) 22:34, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
Hi @Cayn Historian:,
Thank you for your message. "Hiiran" seems to be a tabloid news site at best, and is unlikely to meet WP:Reliability requirements. Please feel free to re-add content with a reliable source cited.
Many thanks Jacob300 (talk) 15:09, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
Hiiran has interviewed presidents and prime ministers of Somalia and is not a tabloid. Who made you the reliability checker and decide what is reliable or not ? It’s definitely reliable and it’s also the most viewed Somali newspaper/site. If you carry on revoking my edits I’ll just have to contact an administrator. Cayn Historian (talk) 16:01, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
“Hiiraan remains one of the most reliable news sites in the Somali media landscape. Hiiraan is regularly citied in academia, books and international media. Hiiraan website also hosts advertisements for international bodies, government agencies and NGOs” Hiiran online is one of the most reputable Somali news websites. If you carry on reverting my edits I’ll have an administrator fix this permanently. Going through your edit history you seem to be someone from Somaliland just focus on that instead of changing what doesn’t concern you. Khatumo has left the Somaliland agreement and is an part of Somalia. If you carry on reverting this edit I’ll have no choice but to contact an administrator. Cayn Historian (talk) 16:13, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
Hi @Cayn Historian:,
As mentioned previously, Hiiraan is akin to a tabloid site and is not a reliable source. I have added an unreliable source tag to your addition on the page. You are more than welcome to replace this citation with a reliable and verified source.
Many thanks Jacob300 (talk) 18:08, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
- According to Tabloid (newspaper format), tabloids' articles are "sensational crime stories, astrology, celebrity gossip and television," but I couldn't find any of those articles. Why do you consider Hiiran to be a tabloid?--Freetrashbox (talk) 10:51, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
Just thought to put my two cents into this since I recently reverted the Khaatumo article:
@Cayn Historian: did not cite a reliable source that supported what he put in. The article that he cited [5] is based on this tweet [6] which is unverified (and quite frankly I very much doubt that Twitter account is the official Khaatumo Twitter account to begin with). I also couldn't find any reliable source to back this either, with other news sites (especially Somali ones) being mute on this.
I do not know about whether Hiiraan is in fact a tabloid site or not, but the fact that it seems to be the only news site to report this (even tabloid sites that are pro-Khatuumo like Khaatumonews24 has not reported on this supposed "exit" from the Aynabo agreement [7]) seems fishy.
It is important to cite reliable sources to whatever content that you add, and unless you can convince the editors present here that there is in fact a reliable source reporting on this the best course of action would be to uphold the stable version of the article.
Many thanks, Dabaqabad (talk) 22:01, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
- @Dabaqabad: The Hiiraan article does not seem to mention the source of the information. Can you prove that this article was written based on a tweet[6]?--Freetrashbox (talk) 10:56, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
- @Freetrashbox: As I explained earlier no other source has reported on this supposed exit from the Aynabo agreement. The press release in that article is directly taken from this tweet made by an account purporting to be the official account of the Khaatumo "government" ([8]) and after. The smoking gun is Hiiraan Online's official Twitter account tweeting the article itself ([9]), further strengthening the notion that the article is based on that tweet. Dabaqabad (talk) 18:08, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
- @Dabaqabad: Why does the fact that Hiiraan has a twitter account prove that Hiiraan quoted the "official Khaatumo Twitter account"?--Freetrashbox (talk) 20:11, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
- @Freetrashbox: As I explained earlier no other source has reported on this supposed exit from the Aynabo agreement. The press release in that article is directly taken from this tweet made by an account purporting to be the official account of the Khaatumo "government" ([8]) and after. The smoking gun is Hiiraan Online's official Twitter account tweeting the article itself ([9]), further strengthening the notion that the article is based on that tweet. Dabaqabad (talk) 18:08, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
Hiiraan is the most reliable Somali news site this is not a discussion or a debate. As said previously if you continue to revert the changes made will contact an administrator to fix this permanently and I have also began reviewing everything you edit. Cayn Historian (talk) 10:12, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
The Acting President of Khaatumo spoke about the exit of Khaatumo from Somaliland agreement and many Khaatumo websites. Hiiraan is an impartial Somali news website and used as academic evidence for papers by researchers around the world. Cayn Historian (talk) 10:16, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
“Hiiraan remains one of the most reliable news sites in the Somali media landscape. Hiiraan is regularly citied in academia, books and international media. Hiiraan website also hosts advertisements for international bodies, government agencies and NGOs” You two seem like two secessionists who aren’t content that Khatumo has exited the Somaliland agreement. I’ve now contacted an administrator who an expert in Somalia affairs all of your edits will also be reverted because of this bias you display. Cayn Historian (talk) 10:26, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
- @Cayn Historian: In Wikipedia discussions, it is not allowed to attack an individual's political or social position by assigning, such as "secessionists". See WP:NPA.--Freetrashbox (talk) 11:35, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
In Wikipedia it is also not good to avoid facts referring to Hiiraan as a tabloid when it is used in academic papers. I’ve escalated this matter to an administrator as you guys have reverted this several times. Cayn Historian (talk) 23:54, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
Your summary
I saw your edit. I can't understand what you considered "unsourced" and what you considered "duplication," so please tell me.--Freetrashbox (talk) 20:32, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
The method of modifying an article is different between "unsourced" and "duplication." Please indicate which part is "unsourced." If there is no presentation, I will reinstate the original description.--Freetrashbox (talk) 10:59, 17 November 2021 (UTC)