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:I paid no attention to "tangential"; I paid attention to [[bipolar affective disorder]]. --[[User:Jpgordon|jpgordon]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Jpgordon|::==( o )]]</small></sup> 03:12, 22 October 2009 (UTC) |
:I paid no attention to "tangential"; I paid attention to [[bipolar affective disorder]]. --[[User:Jpgordon|jpgordon]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Jpgordon|::==( o )]]</small></sup> 03:12, 22 October 2009 (UTC) |
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That's your short-coming, then. [[User:Hxseek|Hxseek]] ([[User talk:Hxseek#top|talk]]) 03:34, 22 October 2009 (UTC) |
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New Source?
For Ancient Macedonians article here an interesting book, hope it is useful [1]. Regards Aigest (talk) 12:41, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
Searching further I think Woodard 2008 is more than respectable and acceptable source for Ancient Macedonian Language. Also as far as I remember Katicic 1976 put it apart from Greek, based on a thorough study of what remained from that language especially the voiced aspirates rule (/bh/ etc) differ it greatly from ancient Greek which since time of Linear turned them in ph etc. Basic language rules (and this one is a basic one), should be the same in the language family otherwise we can speak of different languages see woodard 2008 for a summary [2] I proposed to use it in Ancient Macedonian articles. What do you think? Aigest (talk) 06:17, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
Ancient Macedonian Language
It's a pity while up to now the article looks more like a vocabulary than a language article. I think we should split the article, the Ancient Macedonian vocabulary should have an article itself what do you think? Aigest (talk) 11:19, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
Balto-slavic protolanguage
File:Balto-Slavic_lng.png This image is nice, but of little information: there is no date range (or archeaological range) attached to it. Time is a very useful 4th dimension to any 2D/3D imagery! Could you find the specific dates from when till when this map was valid for the human populations? Thanks in advance. Kazkaskazkasako (talk) 15:32, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
let's talk about it...
Hi Hxseek, could you please take discussion on Kosovo to the related talk page? Along with reverting my edit, you also reinstated some quite controversial statements without providing references, yours, Brutal Deluxe (talk) 23:44, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
Macedonian nationalism
Hi Hxseek! I am interested in your opinion about this article. Probably you can improve it as an neutral editor. Regards! Jingby (talk) 07:38, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
Response
- Ok:
- Why change Montenegrin: Duklja; Serbian Cyrillic to Croatians: Duklja; Croatian Cyrillic when 1) Croatians is incorrect, it's the language we are talking about, it's bad linking and 2) Croatian Cyrillic is a dead language, why link it when it redirects to Bosnian Cyrillic?
- Why did you unlink Zeta?
- Why delete this?[1]
- When was Budva a Croatian capital?
- Why did you change Serb into Croatian when it obviously contradicts this source?[2]
There's too many issues with your edits to go through now, I don't have time, but basically they smack to me as POV edits, you better stop and discuss before you carry on.Brutal Deluxe (talk) 00:37, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
Cruciani R1b
No, not that I know of. It was a paper that was going to be presented at a conference, and these things tend to take time. I am wondering if we'll see it this year.--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 05:40, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
Kaczanowski, Kozłowski
Here is what the book says on p. 281:
In the territories of eastern Europe we observe the occurrence of cultures characterized by a lower, in relation to the previously mentioned ones (Przeworsk, Wielbark etc. - Orczar), degree of economic development. It manifests itself in the passing (expiration) of the cultural traditions of the pre-Roman period and in very limited assimilation of new impulses, permeating from the territory of the Roman state. Among such units is the Zarubintsy culture in its late (early Roman period) phase and the groups that originated from the Zarubintsy base...
Orczar (talk) 01:38, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
Buko I've got in Polish, didn't know there was an English edition
Orczar (talk) 02:10, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
Very interesting article
Browsing I found this very interesting article here [3] Hope it's viewable to you. Aigest (talk) 14:17, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
Im back
Hi Hxseek. Well I can see it got really heated in some articles, in the meantime. There's almost the same story at Talk:Illyrians as it was a half yr ago. LOL
You've asked me for refs for Pannonian Croatia. you gave me a good account of the border history of the Frankish -Bulgar wars in pannonia earlier. I can't find it. Where the hell we were discussing about it? Anyway, refs are probably one or more of these:
Rudolf Horvat, Povijest Hrvatske I. (od najstarijeg doba do g. 1657.), Zagreb 1924.
Nada Klaić, Povijest Hrvata u ranom srednjem vijeku, Zagreb 1975.
Eduard Peričić, Hrvatski kraljevi (Zlatno doba hrvatske povijesti), Zadar 2000. Zenanarh (talk) 09:52, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
Depends what kind of fun you're looking for. Dubrovnik is beautiful, but also the most boring city in Dalmatia. Zenanarh (talk) 10:36, 25 September 2009 (UTC) But Hvar is definitely good place for partying. If you like electronic music, go to the island of Pag, Zrće beach, it's a new "Ibiza" - 24hrs per day, all summer; or visit Petrčane near Zadar, there are series of festivals during all summer, beginning with "Garden festival", usually all English club scene moves there by summer. Zenanarh (talk) 10:59, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
Genetic researches on Illyrians? Are you sure it was about Illyrians? I can only remember I've told you about researches on Old-Croatian necropolises... Can you find where have I mention it, maybe my brain turns on when I see it... Zenanarh (talk) 07:48, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
It's not about Old-Croatian 8th century Nin/Ždrijac site where there are anthropologic similarities to some old Slavic population of Poland. It's about 2 other Old Croatian 8th century sites, one is near Benkovac in Zadar hinterland, another is Mravinci near Split. Here remains are related to autochtonuous Paleo population. That's what I've informed you: 75% Paleo, 25% Neolithic, no early Medieval newcomers. A year or 2 ago multidisciplinary researches were started there and by estimations it was supposed to be finished in 5 years. In the meantime only some reports are coming but I think there's still no any paper officially. I'll check. Zenanarh (talk) 09:31, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
- No, I don't have it. There's not only a paper. There's a whole book (one at least) about that locality. But if you say what you want precisely, I can dig out reference or citation indirectly from other scientific books. I guess you want ref that some anthropological remains were by craniometry related to a certain locality in Poland? Zenanarh (talk) 13:40, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
OK I'll manage something in a few days, I must find it first. However, keep in mind that Nin/Ždrijac is just one site where anthropo-remains were related to the people who possibly came from the north. In the same time there are 2 other sites (of the same Old Cro culture) where anthropo-remains were related to the indigenious population. So only Nin/Ždrijac is useless to draw some general relations between northern migrators and Old Cro culture. Old Cro culture was completely autochtonuous materially, while population was obviously predominantly indigenious but probably Slavized by a small number of newcomers. These newcomers obviously came as soldiers and mercenaries (Goths in 6th, Avar/Sclavens in 7th century) and not like numerous peoples.
I know about Turkic theory, more precisely it is proto-Bulgarian theory of Croatian origins. But noone takes it seriously here, it's based on only one personal name (Khurvat - a leader of proto-Bulgarians) and nothing else. It's considered as a kind of joke. Zenanarh (talk) 09:57, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
Check this [4]. Full text in English is available attached to a link at the page. Zenanarh (talk) 13:38, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
Interesting, R1a1, but hard to believe that it spread from "cold" Europe to "warm" Asia in the age when the most of movements were towards Europe...
I want to join map makers society here, I've installed Inkscape, must read tutorial first, but I'm interested where do you take svg blank maps from. I like especially this background map
but I can't find the empty one. Am I missing something? Zenanarh (talk) 08:52, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
I was too busy, haven't touch inkscape yet. Soon I'll be more online, we can finish Illyrian maps, I want to make some more detailed maps related to the Liburnians, Dalmatae etc. Zenanarh (talk) 08:15, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
Your Violation of the 3RR
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform several reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. When in dispute with another editor you should first try to discuss controversial changes to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. Should that prove unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. Please stop the disruption, otherwise you may be blocked from editing. Cosmos416 (talk) 06:21, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
(2) Wrong. If you look through the article's "History Page" you can seen that your trying to mislead everyone here, and you've changed your position, which is still Original Researched base.
One Last Time, You have Violated the 3RR in the 24 hour period (which I will let Admins aware of). PROVIDE A DIRECT PASSAGE OR CITATION VERIFYING YOUR CLAIMS. VERIFICATION.
You changed your position from saying that:
(1) "No. Those papers showed that Semino, etc proposed that R1a arose in E.E. They did not make a direct critique on Kivisild's"
-- Then why even state it even if it has no direct relevance? As in no link. Why? Because you are trying to correlate a (2000) and (2002) paper, with findings from a (2003) paper, with no direct relationship. You said it all in your OWN words and actions.
(2) " I have re-worded the sentence to reflect such, whilst still highlighting the obviousl flaw in Kvisilid's paper"
-- So YOU reworded the sentence to fit your OWN position(s)? YOU are making interpretations and positioning them as scholarly edits with direct linkages (you said it yourself: "I have re-worded the sentence ... highlighting the obviousl flaw in Kvisilid's paper")... That's Called Original Research!!!!
Caught you line by line. Cosmos416 06:21, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
3RR Violation:
- (cur) (prev) 23:14, 10 October 2009 Hxseek (talk | contribs) (89,847 bytes) (Undid revision 319130842 by Cosmos416 (talk)) (undo)
- (cur) (prev) 23:11, 10 October 2009 Cosmos416 (talk | contribs) m (89,902 bytes) (Again Citation is NEEDED... 2 STUDIES ARE OLDER THAN YOUR CLAIM - DUBIOUS and UNRELIABLE - Wiki: Original Research) (undo)
- (cur) (prev) 07:03, 10 October 2009 Hxseek (talk | contribs) (89,847 bytes) (→South Asian Origin Theories) (undo)
- (cur) (prev) 06:58, 10 October 2009 Hxseek (talk | contribs) (89,866 bytes) (there) (undo)
- (cur) (prev) 05:07, 10 October 2009 Cosmos416 (talk | contribs) (89,902 bytes) (→South Asian Origin Theories: Citation is NEEDED... 2 STUDIES ARE OLDER THAN YOUR CLAIM - DUBIOUS and UNRELIABLE - WikiL OR) (undo)
- (cur) (prev) 04:39, 10 October 2009 Hxseek (talk | contribs) m (89,847 bytes) (→South Asian Origin Theories: refs) (undo)
- (cur) (prev) 04:34, 10 October 2009 Hxseek (talk | contribs) (89,781 bytes) (It's already sourced in above references) (undo)
Kosovo History
Stop disruptive edits
Read the history of dardania before you go there and change articles or at least open a discussion before you change articles.-- LONTECH Talk 15:27, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
Now you accept that Kingdom existed. and in the name of Kosovo - present day Kosovo you remove the Kingdom as minor change if you remove it again i'll report you.-- LONTECH Talk 06:50, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
go to google books and type - dardanian kingdom there you can find not some books but hundreds books about this kingdom.
Your nationalism went to far this time-- LONTECH Talk 07:39, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
you have been reported here [here].-- LONTECH Talk 08:50, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
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- This is a reminder of the 1RR probation on that article. Further reverts will results in blocks. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 13:20, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
- Oh, and enough with the personal attacks.--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 13:23, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
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October 2009
{{unblock|Your reason here}}
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Vulcan's block is unjustified. My statement on the relevant TP was descriptive of the nature of a user's edits, not a direct WP:PA per se. The link to B.A.D. was to clarify what 'tangentiality' is for those who are not familiar with the term. So Vulcan has mis-understood the context of the sentence, and therefore his block is on a flase premise
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No, it is not. "You are a jerk" and "You are acting like a jerk" have exactly the same impact, insofar as they degrade dialogue and are damaging to community. Characterizing other editors is fraught with the peril of blockage. --jpgordon::==( o ) 23:50, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
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- I paid no attention to "tangential"; I paid attention to bipolar affective disorder. --jpgordon::==( o ) 03:12, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
That's your short-coming, then. Hxseek (talk) 03:34, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
- ^ The corresponding demonym appearing in De administrando imperio is Διοκλητιανοί "Diocletians"
- ^ Fine Jr. Page 53