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If the city is ''not'' the primary topic of [[Nagano]], then the solution would be to start a RM to move [[Nagano (disambiguation)]] to [[Nagano]]. Having the primary title redirect to the disambiguation page is contrary to the naming conventions (see [[WP:Malplaced disambiguation pages]]). Also, the fact that there is an RM (on a different page) in progress ''but not yet completed'' seems to me an argument ''against'' a change in the target at this time. --[[User:R'n'B|R'n'B]] ([[User talk:R'n'B|call me]] Russ) 01:49, 26 July 2018 (UTC) |
If the city is ''not'' the primary topic of [[Nagano]], then the solution would be to start a RM to move [[Nagano (disambiguation)]] to [[Nagano]]. Having the primary title redirect to the disambiguation page is contrary to the naming conventions (see [[WP:Malplaced disambiguation pages]]). Also, the fact that there is an RM (on a different page) in progress ''but not yet completed'' seems to me an argument ''against'' a change in the target at this time. --[[User:R'n'B|R'n'B]] ([[User talk:R'n'B|call me]] Russ) 01:49, 26 July 2018 (UTC) |
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:{{re|R'n'B}} Isn't having a primary title redirect to a disambiguated title ''also'' contrary to naming conventions, though? It would seem to me that this would be an [[WP:IAR|IAR]] situation pending a proper solution to the problem, and if it's really that important not to have a base title link to a disambig page, then it should probably be redirected to [[Nagano Prefecture]] since that one has 5/6 the page views despite the artificial inflation the city page gets from the redirect[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nagano,_Nagano&action=info][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nagano_Prefecture&action=info][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nagano&action=info] and any current attention the city article might be getting as a result of the ongoing RM; this is supported by the fact that on ja.wiki [[:ja:長野|the base title]] has always been a disambig page and the prefecture article gets four times the page views.[https://ja.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E9%95%B7%E9%87%8E%E7%9C%8C&action=info][https://ja.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E9%95%B7%E9%87%8E%E5%B8%82&action=info] [[User:Hijiri88|Hijiri 88]] (<small>[[User talk:Hijiri88|聖]][[Special:Contributions/Hijiri88|やや]]</small>) 02:17, 26 July 2018 (UTC) |
:{{re|R'n'B}} Isn't having a primary title redirect to a disambiguated title ''also'' contrary to naming conventions, though? It would seem to me that this would be an [[WP:IAR|IAR]] situation pending a proper solution to the problem, and if it's really that important not to have a base title link to a disambig page, then it should probably be redirected to [[Nagano Prefecture]] since that one has 5/6 the page views despite the artificial inflation the city page gets from the redirect[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nagano,_Nagano&action=info][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nagano_Prefecture&action=info][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nagano&action=info] and any current attention the city article might be getting as a result of the ongoing RM; this is supported by the fact that on ja.wiki [[:ja:長野|the base title]] has always been a disambig page and the prefecture article gets four times the page views.[https://ja.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E9%95%B7%E9%87%8E%E7%9C%8C&action=info][https://ja.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E9%95%B7%E9%87%8E%E5%B8%82&action=info] [[User:Hijiri88|Hijiri 88]] (<small>[[User talk:Hijiri88|聖]][[Special:Contributions/Hijiri88|やや]]</small>) 02:17, 26 July 2018 (UTC) |
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==Deletion review for [[Education Not for Sale]]== |
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An editor has asked for a [[Wikipedia:Deletion review#Education Not for Sale|deletion review]] of [[Education Not for Sale]]. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. <!-- This originally was from the template {{subst:DRVNote|PAGE_NAME}} ~~~~ --> [[User:Tyw7|<i style="font-family:'Rock salt','Comic Sans MS'; color: Green;">Tyw7</i>]] ([[User:Tyw7/t|🗣️ Talk]] • [[User:Tyw7/Contributions|✍️ Contributions]]) Please [[Wikipedia:Notifications#Alerts|ping me if you had replied]] 09:10, 31 July 2018 (UTC) |
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Thank you for fixing my !vote
Thank you for fixing my !vote at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Na brzegu rzeki Sometimes the first few keystrokes that I enter using the 2017 wikitext editor get lost. I would also like to thank you for adding the information about the translation to English. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 04:00, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
Deletion request for List of breakfast drinks
You have participated with the editing of List of breakfast drinks Therefore, you might be interested in the deletion nomination of the article Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of breakfast drinks (2nd nomination) --Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk • ✍️ Contributions) Please ping me if you had replied 16:06, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
A kitten for you!
![](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/75/Cute_grey_kitten.jpg/150px-Cute_grey_kitten.jpg)
for improving Na brzegu rzeki and your "keep" at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Na brzegu rzeki, btw, you will become an "inclusionist", just look deeply into the kitten's eyes......
Coolabahapple (talk) 08:51, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
- @Coolabahapple: I used to call myself a "moderate inclusionist", until I realized a few months back that editors who call themselves and others "inclusionists", and others "deletionists", were by-and-large more interested in fighting than in building an encyclopedia. This reasoning is outlined in my short (or rather currently incomplete) essays User:Hijiri88/Don't call yourself or others "inclusionists" and User:Hijiri88/Don't call other editors "deletionists". My attitude toward the majority of those clumsy AFD nominations last week was basically
Yeah, they're probably notable, and yeah, our deleting them comes across as stupid Anglophones dismissing the achievements of other cultures -- something I spend most of my time on Wikipedia working to correct -- but having standalone articles that are one sentence long and merely duplicate information already found in their parent articles is just going to annoy our readers; redirect for now, and maybe build proper articles later -- heck, forcing the self-proclaimed "inclusionists" to put their money where their mouths are and build the proper articles themselves for once would be optimal
, and it really strikes me as inappropriate that one of the above self-proclaimed "inclusionists" (who almost never !votes any way but "keep", even in utterly ridiculous cases) was allowed to get away with NACcing as "speedy keep" one of the one-sentence AFDs based on a 1-1 "discussion". Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 07:07, 28 July 2018 (UTC)
- @Coolabahapple: I used to call myself a "moderate inclusionist", until I realized a few months back that editors who call themselves and others "inclusionists", and others "deletionists", were by-and-large more interested in fighting than in building an encyclopedia. This reasoning is outlined in my short (or rather currently incomplete) essays User:Hijiri88/Don't call yourself or others "inclusionists" and User:Hijiri88/Don't call other editors "deletionists". My attitude toward the majority of those clumsy AFD nominations last week was basically
Nagano
If the city is not the primary topic of Nagano, then the solution would be to start a RM to move Nagano (disambiguation) to Nagano. Having the primary title redirect to the disambiguation page is contrary to the naming conventions (see WP:Malplaced disambiguation pages). Also, the fact that there is an RM (on a different page) in progress but not yet completed seems to me an argument against a change in the target at this time. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 01:49, 26 July 2018 (UTC)
- @R'n'B: Isn't having a primary title redirect to a disambiguated title also contrary to naming conventions, though? It would seem to me that this would be an IAR situation pending a proper solution to the problem, and if it's really that important not to have a base title link to a disambig page, then it should probably be redirected to Nagano Prefecture since that one has 5/6 the page views despite the artificial inflation the city page gets from the redirect[1][2][3] and any current attention the city article might be getting as a result of the ongoing RM; this is supported by the fact that on ja.wiki the base title has always been a disambig page and the prefecture article gets four times the page views.[4][5] Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 02:17, 26 July 2018 (UTC)
Deletion review for Education Not for Sale
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Education Not for Sale. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk • ✍️ Contributions) Please ping me if you had replied 09:10, 31 July 2018 (UTC)