:We've tried that too and it hasn't worked. I understand Neotarf won't be penalized for this, that part I admit. I do think that if they are genuine in their crusade they will see that what they said is imminently offensive according to GLAAD. [[User:Hell in a Bucket|Hell in a Bucket]] ([[User talk:Hell in a Bucket#top|talk]]) 23:38, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
:We've tried that too and it hasn't worked. I understand Neotarf won't be penalized for this, that part I admit. I do think that if they are genuine in their crusade they will see that what they said is imminently offensive according to GLAAD. [[User:Hell in a Bucket|Hell in a Bucket]] ([[User talk:Hell in a Bucket#top|talk]]) 23:38, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
::Additionally I sent a private email asking for advise and solutions. I sent this to [[User:Newyorkbrad]] and was ignored so I took it to a place where people can comment.
"I'm curious to know how this isn't a useful question. I've been and have continued to be accused of mysogny and things that are demeaning to other editors and it's no where near as insulting as telling someone who is transgender they are only claiming to be a woman. If Tarc is being admonished for offensive behavior for similar comments that seems to be a double-standard. Seriously I mean this legitimately to understand where I am wrong, I'm not trying to hang myself but simply letting people paint an incorrect picture of me makes me feel like I should defend myself because someone else is doing the hanging and in a half-cocked manner. I would appreciate any advice how to extricate myself from this shit, I've disengaged with the others but these accusation about me are extremely personal and in ways that are offensive because my flaws aside I don't discriminate against woman and any of the other groups mentioned. I am only asking here because honestly I really can't deal with the whole choir that clouds what is said and how and could use a calm response." [[User:Hell in a Bucket|Hell in a Bucket]] ([[User talk:Hell in a Bucket#top|talk]]) 23:47, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
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ANI and AE
HIB, Sandstein says your AE request is incomprehensible, and I agree. If you want to complain about all the stuff you described on ANI, maybe you should write some version of your ANI section on AE? This section. Not just this post by Neotarf that you linked to, because that doesn't say much about what your issue is unless the reader has happened to see the ANI section. Mind you, I don't personally think you have much of a case for either ANI or AE. Nobody's going to take the Tutelary thing seriously, IMO. That said, I do understand how annoying the repeated complaints about your username must be. Neotarf, you should stop dragging that around the boards, it's over. Bishonen | talk 11:35, 26 September 2014 (UTC).[reply]
User:Bishonen, I thought it was over too but it's not over [[1]]? I also corrected it so it was less confusing if you see this edit [[2]] .Hell in a Bucket (talk) 11:44, 26 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
HIB, I've seen [3]. I wasn't telling you it's over, sorry if that was unclear. I was asking Neotarf to back off because the issue of your username is over; it has already been repeatedly discussed and it doesn't look like the community has a problem with it. (If ever there was a real issue with it; I think it's trumped-up, myself. Neotarf, please drop it unless you're prepared to complain that the scary username Bishzilla does something bad to the dinosaur part of your brain.) Bishonen | talk 11:57, 26 September 2014 (UTC).[reply]
I thought maybe if I just kept their name out of my mouth they would do the same, thanks Bishonen. I'll let you guys look at my amended filing at AE and let things go from there but I won't be dragging it anywhere else 8) Hell in a Bucket (talk) 12:04, 26 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
H-E-Double hockey sticksOh hi Bishonen, I see I'm late to the party; I've been off collecting diffs for the arbs. Six hours it took me, including snacks. Now, this swearing business would never have come up if this Mr. Bucket person had kept to editing Pokemon articles, but as you can see he has been tearing through Jimbo's talk page, and a few other places as well. I suppose in Sweden you don't take this business seriously, but where I come from it's fanskap. We usually refer to The Hot Place as ["H-E-Double toothpicks"]--in the north they say "double hockey sticks". Anyhow, the clerks closed down that page already, so at this point it's up to ArbCom. But I see everyone has now run off to yet another forum. You can bet that's not how I'm gonna be spending MY weekend. Skål. —Neotarf (talk) 15:06, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Neotarf: Just drop the stick and stop flogging a dead horse. If your beliefs or whatever don't allow you to write HELL then don't, copy and paste instead, the few times there's actually any need for you to enter HiaB's username, as opposed to going looking for a reason to do it. Because this is just silly. Thomas.W talk 15:21, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
(talk page stalker)"Gods-Expedition" means "freight office" in Norwegian Just claim that it's a reference to either Hell, Michigan, or Hell, Norway, which are both small enough to fit in a bucket. Thomas.W talk 10:47, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Suggestion
Re your recent comment on Wales's talk page -- I suggest ignoring Neotarf re User:NE_Ent/Unilateral_interaction_ban. It's the simplest way to go. No one with any wiki-sense believes anything on a dispute resolute board that's not backed by a diff. Additionally, Wikipedia just doesn't do justice (see WP:NOJUSTICE) so trying to get Neotarf in hot water for a single misphrasing isn't going to fly.
Might I also suggest a reply to anyone complaining about your username? Simply say, "The community has endorsed my username, if you have an issue with you're welcome to file a request at WP:RFCN." NE Ent 23:27, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
We've tried that too and it hasn't worked. I understand Neotarf won't be penalized for this, that part I admit. I do think that if they are genuine in their crusade they will see that what they said is imminently offensive according to GLAAD. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 23:38, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Additionally I sent a private email asking for advise and solutions. I sent this to User:Newyorkbrad and was ignored so I took it to a place where people can comment.
"I'm curious to know how this isn't a useful question. I've been and have continued to be accused of mysogny and things that are demeaning to other editors and it's no where near as insulting as telling someone who is transgender they are only claiming to be a woman. If Tarc is being admonished for offensive behavior for similar comments that seems to be a double-standard. Seriously I mean this legitimately to understand where I am wrong, I'm not trying to hang myself but simply letting people paint an incorrect picture of me makes me feel like I should defend myself because someone else is doing the hanging and in a half-cocked manner. I would appreciate any advice how to extricate myself from this shit, I've disengaged with the others but these accusation about me are extremely personal and in ways that are offensive because my flaws aside I don't discriminate against woman and any of the other groups mentioned. I am only asking here because honestly I really can't deal with the whole choir that clouds what is said and how and could use a calm response." Hell in a Bucket (talk) 23:47, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]