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I am new and in need of some help
I have created my first article, it is on Mary Styles Harris, and I am feeling a little confused. There are some problems with my references and I can't figure out how to link my article to others. I would appreciate any help you can give me. Thank you Jaymes10
- It looks like someone else (The ever-helpful Ariel Gold) helped you out already :). To link you articles to others, "Wikilink" the name of the article you want linked to using two of these "[[" on each side of the name. For example, [[Water]] links to water. --Haemo 02:58, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the help
Thanks for banning that user. You might be interested in this. Apparantly he wants to help you out. -- Scorpion0422 03:49, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
- I'm well aware, but he's not banned, only blocked. I don't know what's going on here, beyond you getting harassed by these guys, but I think it would be best if you just ignored it. --Haemo 03:51, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
- It's a long story, DefianceofTheGood (talk · contribs), who I am fairly certain is a sock of NomeKing (talk · contribs) has been trying to add speculation to the page Husbands and Knives [1] [2] saying that a store in the episode is based on the real life Meltdown Comics & Collectibles. His source is the stores blog, which claims the episodes writer is a regular there. Either way, the user didn't appreciate being reverted and has since made multiple threatening posts in which he claimed he would "identify" me, so I gave him a fake name. I was going to register at the forum and reply, but I figured I shouldn't feed the fire. -- Scorpion0422 03:55, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
- DefianceofTheGood (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) -- It might be a good idea to remove user's harassing comments from user's talk page User talk:DefianceofTheGood, and protect talk page. Or simply blank the talk page save for the blocked indef notice. Thanks, Cirt 03:58, 2 December 2007 (UTC).
- Well, we'll see. I'm not really sure what's going on here, so I'd like to at least give him a chance to explain the situation if he needs to. --Haemo 04:00, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
- Okay. Cirt 13:42, 2 December 2007 (UTC).
Regarding the name of Drew's employee
I'm fine with the rewording of the paragraph about Grills, except about the part about not needing her name; the name has been reported in reliable news media, and she was clearly involved in the incident. Why do you feel that the name is not that important? WhisperToMe (talk) 23:02, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
- It's at best peripherally involved. As our guidelines indicated, we should "first, do no harm" when we write about real people. The subject in question here was an 18 year-old girl who was goaded into participating in something by an adult, and her employer, with no reasonable knowledge about what the ultimate outcome would be. The event in question was not even criminal — it seems perverse to bring a relatively unknown child to attention in an article about the suicide, because she was loosely involved in the situation, with extenuating circumstances. Let's not ruin this girl's life over this — keep the article focused on the main subjects. --Haemo (talk) 00:06, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Continued on the talk page - and, (EDIT:)If she was 18 at the time of the incident, please refer to her as a "woman," as 18 is considered legal adulthood in all aspects except alcohol in the USA :) EDIT: Grills was 18 at the time of the incident. Also the prosecuting attorney believes that she had a major role. WhisperToMe (talk) 00:36, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Virk case
You said: "The press disclosed the names, originally in the Virk case — how do you think they would feel if they were indelibly associated with the murder on a Top 3 website"
I'm curious about this - did the media later retract their names? How many of them were proven innocent in trials? How many of them were not charged?
If the media did not retract the names (i.e. if it did not stop publishing the names), I don't see how not publishing the names will prevent additional exposure. Also, how many media sources published the names? I cannot add them as I would rather wait for consensus and I do not know where to look (in terms of reliable sources, anyway) WhisperToMe (talk) 01:16, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
- Only two of the children were charged, both as adults. The rest of the children who engaged in the "swarming" were not charged — the media never "retracted" their names, but honored the requests of the Virk family and the police not to drag out the crime into the public eye. --Haemo (talk) 01:21, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Thank you!
Thank you for granting my wish. I used to be a powerful genie, but this new-aged stuff has me so confused, and stuck in my bottle. Thanks again! - Jeeny (talk) 23:57, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
hello..?
Is this thing on? :o) Thanks for the comment on my page... or whatever page that is that you left that comment on. I can barely figure out anything on this website, so hopefully this is where I'm supposed to reply. Anyway... thanks for the feedback. See you around. WATYF (talk) 22:15, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
- You're in the right place. You seem to be getting the hang on it :) --Haemo 00:00, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Tzvi Hersh Weinreb
Thanks for the tag cleanup on Tzvi Hersh Weinreb, I figured since I was the one who speedy'd it and then changed it to a prod, I shouldn't refactor another user's comments. Mbisanz (talk) 03:49, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
- No worries. That's a case to ignore all rules. No one objects to more time. --Haemo (talk) 03:51, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
- I'm gonna WP:AGF, but I and the author disagree on the notability of this person. He's now gone and removed the PROD with a summary ("You may remove this message if you improve the article or otherwise object to its deletion for any reason." OK then, ill improve this when I have time). Should've gone with my first instinct and left it a CSD. Look forward to seeing this on AfD in a couple of days. Mbisanz (talk) 15:36, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
User: Thirdman
I don't get it, not trying to be rude here, but are you saying that all the articles that Thirdman wrote are good articles that gives information to a reader? it won't even fit into a stub class, because all it has is a single sentence saying that it is somewhere in New Yorkshire. That will most certaintly not give a lot of info to the reader about the village. At least add a picture, geography and maybe a bit of history to it. Fattyjwoods (talk) 03:58, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
- That's an issue for cleanup, not deletion. Villages may, or may not, be inherently notable — I'm not going to speak to that concern. However, a simple stub articles stating X is a village in Y is not "empty", nor does WP:CSD#A7 apply to towns. --Haemo (talk) 04:01, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
Well, what's going to happen now? Is it going to sit there as a one sentenced encyclopadedia article? It dosent look like Thirdman is going to add much to it. Maybe turn it into a 2 sentenced encyclopadedia article.Fattyjwoods (talk) 04:05, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, that's exactly what it's going to do — until someone else comes along and expands it. --Haemo (talk) 05:28, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
You declined to speedy the above article writing that you couldn't find any copy vio. The first three paragraphs are copied word for word from here starting at "a 20-year veteran..." Can you please look again? Thanks. KnightLago (talk) 03:59, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
- Sorry; I was looking at the body of the text. I've trimmed the copyvio material; I think the rest is okay. --Haemo (talk) 04:02, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
help writing to meet wiki criteria
we were hoping to get your help to write our article because as it was posted it did not seem to meet the wiki criteria for publication and was speedily deleted - the entry in question, the baan dek montessori, was posted on december 8, 2007 - we are at a loss to see how our entry failed to meet the requirements when we read a similar article, such as this one - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clark_Montessori - our purpose is not to advertise, it is to relate the historical facts of this school - looking forward to your response - all the best —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dreamduke (talk • contribs) 17:43, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
- You need to assert notability as defined under the guidelines linked. You should also ensure that you cite reliable sources to back up the statements of notability. Because the article in question was speedily deleted, there is no prejudice to recreation, so go for it~ --Haemo (talk) 20:15, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
Mr. G
What's Mr. G's beef with you?[3] Or should I be reading that as a compliment? Rklawton (talk) 02:12, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
deleted article
Hi Haemo, I would like a copy of the talk page of the deleted article Evolutionary theories on the origin of religion. rgds Muntuwandi (talk) 15:45, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
- I've posted it here for you. --Haemo (talk) 00:42, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
Permission
Hi Haemo, I was wondering if I can add your comment made at WT:SLR here and add it to here. Thanks Watchdogb (talk) 20:11, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
Broken sigature
Hi Haemo! I've answered on my talk page, but I noticed that you have only partially signed your post - was that intentional or an accident? If the later, would you mind fixing it? Thanks! --Stephan Schulz (talk) 08:51, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
RE: Opposing conspiracy theories
Oh, I didn't think of that until now.
I'd imagine most people will understand the meaning considering the other heading is "Supporting conspiracy theories", but then again maybe not. I just thought "debunking" wasn't NPOV. The conspiracy theorists think they are the ones "debunking" the official theory.
--RucasHost (talk) 09:19, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
- Why not "Criticism of conspiracy theories"? I think that conveys the same meaning, without being non-neutral and doesn't run the risk of being confusing. --Haemo (talk) 09:23, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
Response to your comment
Hi Haemo,
I have added a reply to your comment on Talk:Snuff_Pop_Inc.
Thanks MadsOlsen —Preceding unsigned comment added by MadsOlsen (talk • contribs) 21:56, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
Hi Haemo
I just responded. Are you able to see whenever I answer or will I have to return here every time? :-)MadsOlsen (talk) 22:15, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
- Don't worry, I have watchlisted the article, and will keep an eye on it. --Haemo (talk) 22:19, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
Hi hemo
I saw that you were adopting right now, can you adopt me please?
What kind of things are you interested in? Hopefully if you adopt me, we will at least have some common ground to edit with? Thank you
Pollypenhouse (talk) 13:55, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
- Right now, I mostly write articles about British Columbia, and keep tabs on my watchlist. For instance, I'm currently working on this article, but have run into a brick wall filling out the rest. --Haemo (talk) 22:01, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
Re: the delete thing
Heh, it was a total blond moment. :P I was speedying RockAzn and Twinkle got carried away when removing backlinks. It's all fixed now. Sorry for any confusion :D --slakr\ talk / 22:48, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
- It's okay; I was just wondering. I'm a little blond too, sometimes. --Haemo (talk) 22:50, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
David Ferring
Df is a well known fantasy author. Check out 'Konrad', 'Shadowbreed' & 'Warblade' in Amozon n stuff. HE IS AN AUTHOR OF NOTE so the article should stand.
- You need to cite reliable sources asserting why he's notable in the article to ensure that it is not deleted. Merry Christmas! --Haemo (talk) 03:42, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
Matan Uziel - Value
Hello. I was wondering why this value was deleted. There are similar values to this like "Kevin Rose" or "Gurbaksh Chahal" for example, so why it was deleted?
thanks, steve —Preceding unsigned comment added by Whadv21 (talk • contribs) 18:23, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
- The article did not assert notability and was deleted under WP:CSD#A7. --Haemo (talk) 18:45, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
Did you see these values - "Kevin Rose" or "Gurbaksh Chahal" .
This is the same!
I feel it is not fair to delete something which is the same. There is nothing about advertising the group.
Can you please recover it?
Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Whadv21 (talk • contribs) 19:30, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
- The article was not deleted for advertising. It was deleted for not asserting notability. The fact that other articles exist does not validate the inclusion of articles which fail our standards. However, since this article was merely speedily deleted, there is no prejudice to recreation. If you would like a copy of the deleted article, I can provide one. However, I cannot undelete it in its current form. --Haemo (talk) 20:21, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
Ok. Can you please provide me with the wrong sentences or how can I improve the value so that it will be approval?
Thanks again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Whadv21 (talk • contribs) 20:26, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
- The article needs to assert notability in order for it not to be deleted. I have userified it, for you. You can find it here. --Haemo (talk) 20:33, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
Thanks alot. Much appreciated.
But I'm not sure about the notability - what does it mean?
Thanks,
S. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Whadv21 (talk • contribs) 20:37, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
- If you read our notability guidelines, you can see that notability is defined as follows:
“ | A topic is presumed to be notable if it has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject.
A topic for which this criterion is deemed to have been met by consensus, is usually worthy of notice, and satisfies one of the criteria for a stand-alone article in the encyclopedia. Verifiable facts and content not supported by multiple independent sources may be appropriate for inclusion within another article. |
” |
Will you make a favour to me and fix this value so that I could learn for the next times?
I'm willing to write alot of articles, it depending on how much you can help me to do that on the right way.
Thanks again. Much appreciated.
S. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Whadv21 (talk • contribs) 21:20, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
- I would love to, but I don't know anything about the subject, so I could not properly write about it in a meaningful way. My usual method of determining these things, Google News brings up no hits. If you would like an example, I wrote the articles on Sweatshop Union, Leslie Satcher, and Harold Keke which demonstrates what notability is, and how to assert it even for subjects who are not "famous". --Haemo (talk) 21:25, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
Ok Thanks. I will use those materials. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Whadv21 (talk • contribs) 21:39, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
Hi!
I just read WP:Tutorial and have learned some a lot of things about Wikipedia! Like how to use a talk page. I think I'm doing it right... I don't know... Thanks for your help! Blurple (talk) 22:25, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
- You are doing it correctly. Merry Christmas, and enjoy your time here. --Haemo (talk) 22:26, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
Hi
I saw your edits on one page and noticed how in your replies to discussions, your name has the '(talk)' bit behind it after you sign it... how do u do this? (soz bout this, im nu) Wikikoolkid (talk) 22:16, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
- Yours does too :) It's the new Wikipedia's default signature, I believe. --Haemo (talk) 22:18, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
- oh yeah silly me hehe. *blushes* lolz... so... how do some people have like personalised signatures? sorry to ask so many questions... :S Wikikoolkid (talk) 22:22, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks a lot Haemo... im kinda nu to this whole thing so i just had truble undrstanding sum of it :S
I guess ill just have to learn things from my mistakes hehe
oh and one lassssssst thing... I promise lol! how do you get the link in html to see anothr users contributions... u know... like how the thing to get to someones talk page is 'user talk:.....whatever'... so what is 'contributions'?
Wikikoolkid([[User:Wikikoolkid|User]])([[User talk:Wikikoolkid|Talk]]) (talk) 22:37, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
Fetus
Hi there. I noticed that you protected the Fetus article. Not sure why you did that. You froze the article two hours after it was reverted by OrangeMarlin. No one sought to undo what OrangeMarlin did. No one has ever reverted OrangeMarlin at that article, as far as I know. What's up?Ferrylodge (talk) 07:06, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
- It's pretty clear that this edit war won't be settled overnight — I'd prefer to ensure that any shenanigans (which I might add, for the record, believe were pretty provocative against you, personally) not escalate the situation. I don't have any opinion about the subject, and generally agree with most of the points you've made on the talk page — but, I hope you can see my point here. Anyways, it's only until there's a clear consensus, or a week — I reckon you could have this settled in a day or two with some luck. --Haemo (talk) 07:12, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
- Okay, I'll give it a try. Please note that I will now be accused of having gotten the article frozen, and the freezing will be used as grounds for banning me from the article. So, I may need to get back to you when that happens. Thanks for your genuine interest in the matter.Ferrylodge (talk) 07:18, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
- Well, it was protected on the version you disagreed with, so that should mitigate any such concerns. If anyone, however unreasonably, brings up the subject as a reason to ban you from the article, then you can just tell them that my reasoning was not based on your actions alone. Indeed, if it had not escalated by previously involved parties making it their business, I would never consider protection at all. Your presence alone, and a minor edit war (frankly, totally non-disruptive in my opinion), is not any reason to ban you from anything. --Haemo (talk) 07:30, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
- Okay, I'll give it a try. Please note that I will now be accused of having gotten the article frozen, and the freezing will be used as grounds for banning me from the article. So, I may need to get back to you when that happens. Thanks for your genuine interest in the matter.Ferrylodge (talk) 07:18, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
- Okay, thanks. :-)Ferrylodge (talk) 07:34, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
- ^ Including but not limited to newspapers, books and e-books, magazines, television and radio documentaries, reports by government agencies, scientific journals, etc. In the absence of multiple sources, it must be possible to verify that the source reflects a neutral point of view, is credible and provides sufficient detail for a comprehensive article.