Granateple (talk | contribs) reply |
|||
Line 110: | Line 110: | ||
:I can say sorry first, if you like. I think you should say sorry to user:olive too. [[User:Granateple|Granateple]] ([[User talk:Granateple#top|talk]]) 04:27, 1 February 2012 (UTC) |
:I can say sorry first, if you like. I think you should say sorry to user:olive too. [[User:Granateple|Granateple]] ([[User talk:Granateple#top|talk]]) 04:27, 1 February 2012 (UTC) |
||
::Your conduct has been mentioned at [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement]] where a request that you be warned under existing sanctions has been made. [[User:Fifelfoo|Fifelfoo]] ([[User talk:Fifelfoo|talk]]) 04:58, 1 February 2012 (UTC) |
Revision as of 04:58, 1 February 2012
Welcome...
Hello, Granateple, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like this place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:
- Introduction
- The five pillars of Wikipedia
- How to edit a page
- Help
- How to write a great article
- Manual of Style
Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}}
on your talk page and ask your question there. Again, welcome! Edison (talk) 17:16, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
Edison (talk) 17:16, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
I remove the "See also"" link you added to Pomegranate, since that article is already wikilinked in the text above. Edison (talk) 17:19, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
Strawberry plant defense mechanism
Hi, the article that you added to Garden strawberry called "The Strawberry Plant Defense Mechanism: A Molecular Review" seems to me to be better suited to the Fragaria page. The article lists F. vesca as well as the garden strawberry. Nadiatalent (talk) 19:50, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
December 2011
Please do not add commentary or your own personal analysis to Wikipedia articles. Doing so violates Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy and breaches the formal tone expected in an encyclopedia. Thank you.
Additionally, please take a look at WP:FURTHER. --Ronz (talk) 16:35, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
If you haven't found them already, The Missing Manual and this essay for newcomers are extremely helpful introductions to Wikipedia.
Finally, looking through your edits, it appears you've spent a great deal of time searching for potential references. That's extremely helpful work, but they should either be incorporated into the body of the article as references, or noted on the article talk pages so other editors could work on incorporating them. --Ronz (talk) 21:08, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you for dropping by.
- I have a different opinion than you.
- As shown by the discussion on the Cranberry Talkpage for December 2011. Granateple (talk) 21:43, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to violate Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy by adding commentary and your personal analysis into articles, you may be blocked from editing. --Ronz (talk) 17:51, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
- Since you've decided to keep editing as you've been and abandon the discussion, I'm going ahead and removing any contributions from you that appear to be WP:SOAP. --Ronz (talk) 17:55, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you for dropping by again.
- On December 15, 2011, you removed my contributions to these articles: Pomegranate juice, Purple mangosteen, Fruit, Health effects of chocolate, Raspberry, Garden strawberry and Cranberry.
- On December 22, 2011, you removed my contributions to these articles: Lactobacillus casei, Lactic acid bacteria, Phyllanthus urinaria, Blueberry, Wolfberry, Fruit and Pomegranate.
- You have written on your talkpage (Dec. 22, 2011) that I “ignore other editors”.
- Actually, it is only you and the User:Zefr that remove my contributions, and this both of you have done since I first became a Wikipedian.
- My main arguments can be found on the Pomegranate talk page (Nov. – Dec. 2011, discussion with User:Zefr) and on the Cranberry talk page (Dec. 2011, discussion with the User:Ronz).
- On the Pomegranate talk page, my arguments are met with silence.
- After discussion with you on the Cranberry talk page, my arguments are met with “disruptive editing”, “adding commentary and your personal analysis into articles”, I am “soapboxing” (Revision history of Pomegranate), I am even “here to promote the allegations of health benefits of fruits and fruit juices” (your talkpage, December 22, 2011), and I may finally “be blocked from editing”.
- I have found an interesting case from last year (October, 2010), where one particular user was proposed banned for 24h.
- I wish you all the best. Merry Christmas! Granateple (talk) 17:32, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
- Seems you are not interested in discussing the matter further. That's fine, just don't expect to sway consensus in this manner in the slightest.
- Going down the path of focusing on editors is disruptive to this encyclopedia. Best to stay clear of it. --Ronz (talk) 21:51, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you for your visit. It was so close to Christmas Eve that I thought you were Santa Claus.
- Please respond to the arguments on the articles talk pages. Granateple (talk) 23:21, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
- Centralized discussion at Talk:Cranberry#Moved_from_article:_Review_articles_on_possible_health_benefits. --Ronz (talk) 03:05, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
I prefer to keep conversations online, except in rare circumstances. if there's something you'd like to discuss, we can do so here. --Ludwigs2 22:44, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
- Hi Ludwigs2, as you can see (above), there is a slight disagreement between us (User:Ronz) on some Wikipedia pages. I think it is fair to say that we have some sort of factual dispute? I would very much appreciate your opinion on this matter. Granateple (talk) 19:12, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
- Note that canvassing for help in this manner looks like just further evidence that you're treating this as a personal battle.
- WP:DR gives a good overview on the many avenues to proceed. Because many editors have already weighed in, I'm not sure what would be the best next step. Maybe WP:EAR to get general advice on how to proceed? --Ronz (talk) 22:18, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
- Ludwigs2: I am very sorry, but I must ask you not to give your opinion. I contacted you because I have seen that you have had a dispute with the User:Ronz last year, and I simply didn’t know about the behavioral guideline: “Canvassing” (WP:CANVAS), so here the User:Ronz is correct. But I also contacted you because I find your reasoning very good. Granateple (talk) 00:55, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
- Ronz: A centralized discussion on the Cranberry talkpage is ok for me, but this is only obvious for us and not as such (for the reader of a particular article talkpage), unless you refer to this centralized discussion on each of the articles talk pages. And I have asked an administrator (User:PhilKnight) for advice on how to proceed regarding our disagreement. Granateple (talk) 23:29, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
ANI
No, I'm sorry. I don't . That was a very strange experience from beginning to end, having the NB closed based on things which didn't happen, accusations of tag teaming with someone I've never edited with before, battleground behaviour, then attacks on AN/I. It was a very nasty situation. I assume Fifelfoo is a reputable editor so I don't know how he could have made those kinds of mistakes. I guess my thought on AN/I is that it was easier to ignore it, and let it archive than to deal with it. I'm sorry you got dragged into this. I thought you made some good and thoughtful points on the RS/NB. I hope this experience won't sour your involvement on other NBs . They can use editors who look deeply and thoughtfully into the issues, in my opinion.(olive (talk) 04:08, 30 January 2012 (UTC))
You may wish to amend two of your recent contributions
You may very strongly wish to delete this phrase " developed a cabal of his own " from two of your recent edits, as it is a personal attack. Fifelfoo (talk) 01:16, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
- I hope you will keep calm, Fifelfoo.
- I hope you have understood by now that I didn’t know user:olive. I was led to the discussion by another user, who dropped some lines on talk:WikiProject Medicine.
- A user have suggested that I can contact ArbCom, and I will think about it a couple of days. Your visit on my talkpage now, makes this more likely.
- I have a question for you. From time to time I do a lot of mistakes etc, and I learn from them and grow. It is part of being a human being, and very normal. If your closure was not quite optimal, can’t you just say so, and both of us will be happy, and life can go on? No one requires from you that everything you do must be correct. You are a busy man and deals with much. Not everything have to be perfect, and thanks God for that. We are neither gods nor machines, but human beings. I do a lot of mistakes, and I hope you do it as well.
- Maybe it was not optimal of me to say that you developed a cabal of your own, I will say sorry to you, if you can say sorry to me. Granateple (talk) 03:57, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
- I can say sorry first, if you like. I think you should say sorry to user:olive too. Granateple (talk) 04:27, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
- Your conduct has been mentioned at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement where a request that you be warned under existing sanctions has been made. Fifelfoo (talk) 04:58, 1 February 2012 (UTC)