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:Double Wow. I just realized they put a Katie Hopkins quote on their user page. Spiking a user page with a quote from a european white supremacist is... not something that paints a good picture? [[User:IHateAccounts|IHateAccounts]] ([[User talk:IHateAccounts|talk]]) 04:14, 18 November 2020 (UTC) |
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Patriot Front
With regard to edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Patriot_Front&oldid=985806318, I was trying to capture the part of the Buzzfeed article that identifies tension/potential conflict between Patriot Front and other extremist groups. The point wasn't really about Patriot Front's position on BLM, but I thought that context was necessary in order to quote the relevant part of the article about the Boogaloo Boys and The Proud Boys. I didn't think it was misleading, but I think I understand your point. Is there a different way I make the entry?
Best, Jastighe (talk) 21:26, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
I'd like to craft an entry that cites the part of the article that discusses tension between Patriot Front and extremist groups. This time, I'll just leave out the BLM reference.
Jastighe (talk) 18:20, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
- The part of your edit mentioning the Proud Boys seems fine, it was mostly the comment about how they feel about boogaloo boys that was misleading. Sorry for the delay in replying—I think someone else left a message on my talk page after yours and I missed your original message. GorillaWarfare (talk) 02:23, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
Trolls talking about a "cofounder of wikipedia"
It looks like Larry Sanger is trying to direct them to Talk:Hunter Biden from his twitter page:
- https://twitter.com/lsanger/status/1322014326740426752
- https://twitter.com/lsanger/status/1322008938871742464
In fact, his whole twitter feed the past couple days is 90% or more falsehoods about this topic. I am not sure what sort of warning is appropriate for this but I think it is relevant. IHateAccounts (talk) 02:17, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
- @IHateAccounts: Huh. You wouldn't know he'd done that, looking at Talk:Hunter Biden. I suppose the semi-protection has helped with any potential brigading that would've resulted from it, though the tweets don't seem to have gotten a ton of engagement. GorillaWarfare (talk) 02:42, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
- I asked him on Twitter why he had gone over to the dark side and I was promptly blocked. Liz Read! Talk! 03:05, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
- (edit conflict)I noticed it because I tried to look up what https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Theschulman was ranting about at Talk:Proud Boys and it turned out to be the same person I saw https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Tvaughan1 ranting about last week. That led me to the cesspit that is Sanger's twitter, where Sanger is now making baseless claims that "the laptop" contained illegal material involving minors. I think this should be cause for serious concern for some time. https://twitter.com/lsanger/status/1320174215576903680 IHateAccounts (talk) 03:18, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
- @Liz: Yeah, I've been blocked for a while now too...
- @IHateAccounts: Larry's comments about Wikipedia's "bias against conservatives" and all that has certainly given ammo to those pushing a conservative/right-wing POV, though since none of it is based in policy it doesn't really get them very far. I would certainly say his behavior is concerning, probably especially to some who are close to him (I certainly never was) but there's not much to be done about it on-wiki if that's what you mean. GorillaWarfare (talk) 16:28, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
- @GorillaWarfare: I was wondering if there is a note that can be left on the top of the talk page, or included in the FAQ, acknowledging that a bad actor offsite has been directing people to that page. IHateAccounts (talk) 16:36, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
- @IHateAccounts: Ohh, got it. Probably not worth doing—if his comments were gaining major traction, maybe, but there are tweets from random people about the Hunter Biden Wikipedia page that have gained way more attention than his (and such tweets are common about any given controversial page, and not something we usually warn about on talk pages). If he was actively encouraging participation in an RfC on the page, {{notaballot}} could be useful. GorillaWarfare (talk) 16:54, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
- @GorillaWarfare: I was wondering if there is a note that can be left on the top of the talk page, or included in the FAQ, acknowledging that a bad actor offsite has been directing people to that page. IHateAccounts (talk) 16:36, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
- (edit conflict)I noticed it because I tried to look up what https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Theschulman was ranting about at Talk:Proud Boys and it turned out to be the same person I saw https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Tvaughan1 ranting about last week. That led me to the cesspit that is Sanger's twitter, where Sanger is now making baseless claims that "the laptop" contained illegal material involving minors. I think this should be cause for serious concern for some time. https://twitter.com/lsanger/status/1320174215576903680 IHateAccounts (talk) 03:18, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
- I asked him on Twitter why he had gone over to the dark side and I was promptly blocked. Liz Read! Talk! 03:05, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
Why was J vandalized 12 hours after you protected it?
Just curious how this can happen: 12 hours after you configured pending changes settings for J (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) because of persistent vandalism, it was vandalized again by a new IP user (who has consequently been blocked for an odd time). Please feel free to reply by e-mail if you don't want to discuss this here. ◅ Sebastian 03:20, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
On second thought; I may just be misunderstanding the history. Maybe the changes were still pending, and it's just not displayed as such in the history. ◅ Sebastian 03:24, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
- @SebastianHelm: Yep, if you click in to the diff, you'll see it was only ever a pending revision. When someone rolls back a pending change that was never accepted, it doesn't really look that different in the page history and so can be confusing at a glance. GorillaWarfare (talk) 16:29, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks! ◅ Sebastian 22:03, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
Section I just removed from Talk:Joe Biden
Hello @GorillaWarfare:, @JzG:, I just removed a section from Talk:Joe Biden that I think clearly went WAY beyond the bounds of WP:BLP policy after starting from a WP:NOTFORUM violating rant anyways. Here is the relevant edit that I think went way beyond. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AJoe_Biden&type=revision&diff=986323494&oldid=986289444 IHateAccounts (talk) I will leave it to those more experienced than I am if this ought to be actioned or taken to one of the places like Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents or something else. IHateAccounts (talk) 04:25, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
- Kind of a baffling comment, not really sure what the "CCP prostitutes" thing was about. Not sure it really needs further action, though. GorillaWarfare (talk) 16:32, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
- CCP is the Chinese Communist Party. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 17:12, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
- I know that (and they wikilinked it). GorillaWarfare (talk) 17:52, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
- Calling people "CCP prostitutes" is a common smear in the right-wing echo chamber when they want to accuse someone of being connected to China. I've seen it often with people accusing the World Health Organization of things using that language thanks to Trump. IHateAccounts (talk) 16:19, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
- Are you sure? I thought "CCP prostitutes" was the conspiracy theory that the CCP send prostitutes to embarrass and shame their enemies. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 16:23, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Emir of Wikipedia: Did you read the removal? The text involved was Tickle Me's wording "the former quality press is losing any credibility among non-Democrats, as CCP prostitutes aren't popular, ratings and sales are plummeting", accusing any non-extreme-right-wing outlets of being "CCP Prostitutes". This is a common slur that right-wing individuals use, and I have seen numerous COVID-19 pandemic denialists using the same slur to attack the World Health Organization following Trump's attacks on the WHO this summer. IHateAccounts (talk) 17:05, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
- I did not mean in this case specifically. I have never seen say the phrase "CCP Prostitutes" been used in the way you are describing before, so either I am lucky enough to avoid those circles and/or it is not as common as you think. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 17:07, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
- Emir of Wikipedia, For what it's worth, my experiences match yours. SQLQuery me! 18:18, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
- I did not mean in this case specifically. I have never seen say the phrase "CCP Prostitutes" been used in the way you are describing before, so either I am lucky enough to avoid those circles and/or it is not as common as you think. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 17:07, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Emir of Wikipedia: Did you read the removal? The text involved was Tickle Me's wording "the former quality press is losing any credibility among non-Democrats, as CCP prostitutes aren't popular, ratings and sales are plummeting", accusing any non-extreme-right-wing outlets of being "CCP Prostitutes". This is a common slur that right-wing individuals use, and I have seen numerous COVID-19 pandemic denialists using the same slur to attack the World Health Organization following Trump's attacks on the WHO this summer. IHateAccounts (talk) 17:05, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
- Are you sure? I thought "CCP prostitutes" was the conspiracy theory that the CCP send prostitutes to embarrass and shame their enemies. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 16:23, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
- Calling people "CCP prostitutes" is a common smear in the right-wing echo chamber when they want to accuse someone of being connected to China. I've seen it often with people accusing the World Health Organization of things using that language thanks to Trump. IHateAccounts (talk) 16:19, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
- I know that (and they wikilinked it). GorillaWarfare (talk) 17:52, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
- CCP is the Chinese Communist Party. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 17:12, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – November 2020
News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2020).
Interface administrator changes
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- Community sanctions now authorize administrators to place under indefinite semiprotection
any article on a beauty pageant, or biography of a person known as a beauty pageant contestant, which has been edited by a sockpuppet account or logged-out sockpuppet
, to be logged at WP:GS/PAGEANT.
- Community sanctions now authorize administrators to place under indefinite semiprotection
- Sysops will once again be able to view the deleted history of JS/CSS pages; this was restricted to interface administrators when that group was introduced.
- Twinkle's block module now includes the ability to note the specific case when applying a discretionary sanctions block and/or template.
- Sysops will be able to use Special:CreateLocalAccount to create a local account for a global user that is prevented from auto-creation locally (such as by a filter or range block). Administrators that are not sure if such a creation is appropriate should contact a checkuser.
- The 2020 Arbitration Committee Elections process has begun. Eligible editors will be able to nominate themselves as candidates from November 8 through November 17. The voting period will run from November 23 through December 6.
- The Anti-harassment RfC has concluded with a summary of the feedback provided.
- A reminder that
standard discretionary sanctions are authorized for all edits about, and all pages related to post-1932 politics of the United States and closely related people.
(American Politics 2 Arbitration case).
- A reminder that
FYI
Vox/Recode coverage of Wikipedia Liz Read! Talk! 03:35, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
- I saw! I thought she did a pretty good job. GorillaWarfare (talk) 03:38, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
- I just found out about Wikipedia:Press coverage 2020 and there must be a half dozen articles about Wikipedia and tomorrow's election. Some of it is really wrong, like stating that every editor who has a page on their Watchlist will get an email message every time the page is edited. It makes it sound more vigilant than it is. I'm sure the main articles will have lots of eyes on them though. I was more concerned about surreptitious editing in the months leading up to the election than I am about tomorrow which is such a high profile day. We've had four years to get ready for this. Liz Read! Talk! 03:46, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
- Yeah, the reporters have been busy this past week or two. It's hard to write about Wikipedia, given it's all really hard for "outsiders" to understand well, and so you tend to see a lot of mistakes like the watchlist one you mention. A few reporters have been on the "Wikipedia beat" for a while now, though, and have gotten pretty good. I think the potential for m/disinformation is still high through the election, but I agree with you generally. If I were trying to influence an election I'd probably to introduce misleading info much before people were voting, and especially with all the early voting this year, that time has mostly passed. GorillaWarfare (talk) 03:48, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
- Congratulations on even more coverage. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 19:55, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
- I just found out about Wikipedia:Press coverage 2020 and there must be a half dozen articles about Wikipedia and tomorrow's election. Some of it is really wrong, like stating that every editor who has a page on their Watchlist will get an email message every time the page is edited. It makes it sound more vigilant than it is. I'm sure the main articles will have lots of eyes on them though. I was more concerned about surreptitious editing in the months leading up to the election than I am about tomorrow which is such a high profile day. We've had four years to get ready for this. Liz Read! Talk! 03:46, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
I just wanted to chip in and say I also thought the article was pretty good, and I believe a little more public-facing transparency is probably salutary for this place. So in short, both kudos and thanks to you. Cheers. Dumuzid (talk) 07:54, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
Draft:Islamic_renaissance_front
I'd made the initial edits for this page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Islamic_renaissance_front and that will be it for now. Is it possible to have it as a normal page and not draft? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nageeb Gounjaria (talk • contribs) 07:07, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Nageeb Gounjaria: I moved that page to the draftspace because I saw that you had just created it and so were probably still working on it. However I did so as an alternative to deleting the page, which is what many administrators would have done. It quite readily fits two of the speedy deletion criteria: G11 (unambiguous advertising or promotion) and A7 (no indication of importance). I didn't see it at the time, but it also apparently could have been deleted per G12 (unambiguous copyright infringement), which I see Sphilbrick noticed and addressed. It is completely lacking in independent, reliable sources. Until those issues are addressed, it will not be moved to the main articlespace. I would recommend reading Help:Your first article, improving the page accordingly, and then adding {{subst:submit}} at the top of the page when you think it is ready. That will add it to a queue of articles to be reviewed by experienced Wikipedia editors, who can either move it to the main articlespace if it is ready, or provide feedback on what else needs to be addressed. GorillaWarfare (talk) 17:34, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
PUMA
Hey sorry I'm new to wikipedia and have no idea how to edit/have conversations. Hopefully this is the right spot.
Can I ask why you reverted changes on the 'PUMA' disambiguation page which included the phrase 'Party Unity My Ass'?
While the organization is officially known as 'People United Means Action', the term is backronym for the much more commonly used 'Party Unity My Ass' (as shown on the page for 'People United Means Action'. I think this is relevant to include because the unofficial name is much more common in political discourse. For example, People United Means Action only has 2100 google hits ( https://www.google.com/search?q="People+United+Means+Action ), while Party Unity My Ass has 350,000 google hits ( https://www.google.com/search?q="party+unity+my+ass" ). There are numerous articles which use that term, including ones from VOX, The Guardian, Washington Post, and New York Times. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.135.34.38 (talk) 19:42, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
- I reverted it because it appeared to me to be vandalism, as it was unsourced and appeared derogatory. While it does appear the statement could be sourced, a slangy name for the committee is not something that ought to be included in a disambiguation page, which is meant to just briefly identify each entry so that people can go to the main page to learn more. If you wish, it could potentially be added (with sourcing this time) to People United Means Action, maybe in the "Criticism" section. GorillaWarfare (talk) 20:12, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
- I'm still a little confused. It's on the People United Means Action page already, and the name was the *original* name for the group which became People United when it was formally incorporated. Quote from the article: "The PUMA acronym as originally coined stood for "Party Unity My Ass", but the PAC was registered as "People United Means Action," a backronym". Given the sheer ubiquity of this term (again, more common and older than 'People United Means Action'), what would make it qualify for inclusion on the disambiguation page?
- As for sourcing, it appears nothing else is sourced on the disambiguation page? What are the standards for including alternative names? I ask because I was trying to find the group and was surprised there was no 'Party Unity My Ass' wikipedia page, not realizing that the much more notable term (I am using google hits as a metric for notability, but is there some better way to establish it?) was excluded.
- I'm not trying to be rude, just confused and new to wikipedia. Sorry if this seems confrontational at all. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.135.34.38 (talk) 20:36, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
- Apologies, that misunderstanding was on me. I tried searching the page for 'party unity' but I must've typoed it because it didn't show up when I first searched, but you're correct that it's in there. Given that, I think it's ok to re-add to the disambig page, and I can do so myself. GorillaWarfare (talk) 21:25, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
- I'm not trying to be rude, just confused and new to wikipedia. Sorry if this seems confrontational at all. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.135.34.38 (talk) 20:36, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
Revert on ANI
Hola - you reverted my edit to my text on ANI, but that link didn't work, while the one on the version I last edited did! Any reason? Sorry, saw your next click belatedly! Cheers Alexandermcnabb (talk) 04:51, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
- Yeah, sorry about that! My computer is getting up there in years and slowing down a bit, and sometimes it loads the page slowly such that when I go to click a link, more of the page loads and I end up misclicking. I have a script that's supposed to ask for confirmation when I click rollback from my watchlist, but I think because the issue is due to slow loading, sometimes the script hasn't loaded either and it goes through. Apologies for the confusion! GorillaWarfare (talk) 16:59, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
Today's Wikipedian 10 years ago
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--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:45, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
- How time flies! GorillaWarfare (talk) 17:00, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
Fox News reliability
Hi GorillaWarfare,
I think this is another blow to Fox News's credibility, if they have any left. https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/06/media/fox-news-election-projection-plan/index.html
I also think it's time for a Reliable Sources discussion regarding Fox's diminishing factual reliability, but I don't know the best way to go about filing it or how much information I need to gather and how it should be formatted. Could you offer some advice? IHateAccounts (talk) 16:47, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
- @IHateAccounts: I think your best bet would be to model it after the previous RfC, Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 303#RfC: Fox News. The layout of the RfC should neutrally lay out the various options, which you may be able to actually reuse almost completely from that RfC. Because the previous RfC was only three months ago, I would also strongly suggest briefly laying out why you think circumstances have changed substantially since then such that a new RfC is justified; otherwise it is liable to be flooded with comments that we shouldn't waste time revisiting an RfC so soon. You might consider drafting the RfC in a user subpage somewhere and then getting some outside input -- maybe from the people who drafted the original RfC. The last Fox News RfC was quite high-engagement, and I would expect the same to be true of any future one, so making sure the RfC is extremely well-constructed before kicking off conversation is worth the time and effort. You might consider seeing if any of the previous drafters, or other experienced Wikipedians, wish to team up with you on creating the next one. GorillaWarfare (talk) 17:10, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
- IHateAccounts, if I may follow up on GW, I would not do it now, or not yet, and not based on just this article (I'm not saying you don't have more evidence). I have no doubt that in the aftermath of this election there will be a slew of research on this. Academic publishing is a slow affair, but it may well be that editorial boards of publications like the Columbia Journalism Review will come out with statements; such articles will come quicker than studies that go through the regular editorial process. In general, for such discussions (that will become very loaded very quickly) the more academic, peer-reviewed sources you can find, the better it is. But maybe I'm telling you something you already know--in which case, my apologies. Drmies (talk) 17:14, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
@Drmies: This came up today and it is similar in analysis. https://www.cnn.com/videos/business/2020/11/10/fox-new-hypocrisy-election-results-stelter-newday-vpx.cnn/video/playlists/stories-worth-watching/ I am very open to the idea of establishing a drafting page somewhere as GorillaWarfare suggested and I would love to have some help in collecting the sources and formatting it. IHateAccounts (talk) 01:09, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
Sockpuppetry
Hey I just wanted to let you know that the user 'Dr.Swag Lord, Ph.d' is likely a sockpuppet of user 'PackMecEng.' On the article talk page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Karen_Bass they have been commenting with these two accounts within minutes of each other in an attempt to manufacture a false consensus. This user has already been accused of using multiple accounts before, especially given that this newish account seems to be a longtime user. Thanks! Dosafrog (talk) 01:21, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Dosafrog: If you believe they are sockpuppets, you should file a report at WP:SPI. I filed an arbitration enforcement report with respect to Dr.Swag Lord, Ph.d a few weeks ago and so it would be improper for me to get involved in an admin capacity with respect to that user. I should say that simply commenting on the same side of an argument in quick succession as a different account is probably not sufficient evidence for SPI, though—that kind of thing happens often when two users are active at the same time and share the same opinion, and is not itself a sign of sockpuppetry. GorillaWarfare (talk) 01:38, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
- @GorillaWarfare: Hello. After this user issued a vile, personal attack against me [1], they seem to have stalked my entire edit history. They have proceeded to edit war with me [2],[3], and they have falsely claimed to have consensus [4]. They have inserted contentious edits that are actively being discussed on an RfC [5]. Furthermore, they have removed large chunks of sourced material, without first discussing it on the talk page: [6], [7]. And now, they are baselessly accusing me of being a sock (btw, feel free to check, if you want). All of these edits occurred after their block was lifted. Is there any merit to file an WP:ANI report against them? Or, is there some remedy for WP:Harassment? I appreciate the advice. Dr.Swag Lord, Ph.d (talk) 03:04, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Dr.Swag Lord, Ph.d: If you need admin intervention, ANI would be the place to go. Like I said, I'm not going to get involved administratively with respect to you for obvious reasons, on any side of a dispute in which you're involved (and while I appreciate you saying it'd be okay, it's still something I'm going to steer clear of). ANI is full of uninvolved admins who'll be able to help resolve any dispute, though. GorillaWarfare (talk) 03:16, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you for the advice. Dr.Swag Lord, Ph.d (talk) 03:19, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
@Dosafrog: I did some google searching and found out that Wikipedia has some tools at Wikipedia:Tools/User_interaction_investigations to compare. I am not experienced enough to say anything other than their closest timing is on Karen Bass, then Charlie Kirk (activist), and then Talk:Donald Trump. I am concerned about Swag Lord's attempting to push material that seems to be WP:UNDUE and crossing a line into WP:BLP-violating accusations of Karen Bass being a scientologist, especially as Swag Lord had to be warned by Muboshgu and yet accuses you of having "removed large chunks of sourced material, without first discussing it on the talk page" without acknowledging that their insertion of the material was improper. Part of my concern is that at least on Swag Lord's part this is looking dangerously close to the sort of behavior that I first saw them exhibit when they were edit-warring trying to insert the WP:Deadname of a minor into an article. IHateAccounts (talk) 04:21, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
Urgent RFP request
I see that you are actively at RfPP right now. Could you take a look at my request for a few hours full protection of Donald Trump? Thanks. -- MelanieN (talk) 17:57, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
- @MelanieN: Yep, I actually just implemented it while you were leaving this message. Do you have a good suggestion for a clean revision to revert to? GorillaWarfare (talk) 18:00, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
- We worked that out at the talk page. An issue that occurred to me: It’s important that there not be any unprotected lapse between the full protection and the previous EC protection. So we should restore EC before the full expires. I see that the full protection expires after 12 hours. You installed it about 10 a.m. my time (pacific) which means it will expire about 10 p.m. my time. Will you be able to convert it back to EC before that, or do you want me to, or do you want to extend the full protection to a more convenient expiration time for you? -- MelanieN (talk) 22:34, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
- Good call-out. I'll try converting it back a little later tonight and see how that goes—if disruption resumes I'll extend the full protection to sometime during my waking hours tomorrow and then revisit it then. GorillaWarfare (talk) 22:53, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
- We worked that out at the talk page. An issue that occurred to me: It’s important that there not be any unprotected lapse between the full protection and the previous EC protection. So we should restore EC before the full expires. I see that the full protection expires after 12 hours. You installed it about 10 a.m. my time (pacific) which means it will expire about 10 p.m. my time. Will you be able to convert it back to EC before that, or do you want me to, or do you want to extend the full protection to a more convenient expiration time for you? -- MelanieN (talk) 22:34, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
EZTV
As you can see, the section is sourced to TorrentFreak, as are many other parts of the article, so apparently that's considered a "reliable source". To say that it is unsourced, is simply a bald-faced lie. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.252.235.213 (talk) 18:01, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
Parler RfC format
I *think* this is the format for the vite you're going for, let me know if it isn't and I messed things up. Artw (talk) 23:41, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
- Yep! I was figuring people would just bold their choice of Options 1–4 like that. GorillaWarfare (talk) 23:49, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
Hi GorillaWarfare. I didn't mean to use rollback on your edit, sorry. I just checked; there is a Wikipedia article for the person specified in the edit you reverted. I've added it. Thanks. Silikonz (💬│🖋) 04:10, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
- Oh, good catch, thanks! No worries about the rollback, I do that by accident too sometimes. GorillaWarfare (talk) 04:14, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
Hi GorillaWarfare. Regarding Boyce-Sneed_feud, the original reports said it was eight dead but at some point it was changed to seven in the main article while leaving the 8 in the infobox. The reason for this is the Sneed meme from the Simpsons when the character Sneed talks about soil pH levels (7 to 8 max). So people started to edit the article to make it unclear if it was 7 or 8 dead. You can check the edit history. Thank you.
Always impressed
I've no idea how you do it, but I'm constantly amazed at how productive an editor and janitor sysop you are while also productively serving on ArbCom and getting more than your fair share slung your way. I really appreciate all you do for the project, thank you! ~ Amory (u • t • c) 11:49, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
- +1 —valereee (talk) 14:56, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks, that's very kind of you. It helps a bit that we've had a fairly quiet few months on the ArbCom. GorillaWarfare (talk) 15:53, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
Comment from 2603:9001:808:84F5:3134:8829:FD10:970C
Your article on Donald Trump left out many glaring weaknesses of Trump for witch much evidence exists. He should be clearly identified as a science denier and the one person who has done The most to interfere with progress on climate change. You left out the part where was it 35 prominent psychiatrists Declared him mentally unfit as a president. He also made many many comments evidencing his racist tendencies not to mention putting the children in jail in cages and keeping them from their families. Your article on Trump does not include any truth about the fact that he had no compassion or evidence of compassion for the less fortunate, for people of color, for immigrants. You say that to make a change in your article about Donald Trump you would need evidence : what about the evidence that he stopped the best scientist and medical professionals from leading our country to a healthier experience of the Covid virus. Many believe him to be responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths.Your article should make it clear that he was not a president for the people. There’s a lot of other stuff...open your eyes correct your reporting. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:9001:808:84F5:3134:8829:FD10:970C (talk) 14:43, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
- Any suggestions for changes to the article should be made at Talk:Donald Trump, along with reliable sourcing supporting the changes. GorillaWarfare (talk) 15:53, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
Fredrick Brennan lead theorizing Watkins as QAnon
Brennan has theorized that Watkins controls the account ... this bothers me, on both WP:WEIGHT and WP:BLP grounds. For weight, is it really one of the most important things about Brennan that he has theorized something about someone else? Surely not, unless that someone else is of a truly massive notability, which Watkins is not; Watkins has a barely longer article than Brennan does. For BLP, should we really write about, again, a not-tremendously-notable living person, in the lead of another person's article, that someone thinks they are the cause of a highly controversial (to put it mildly) conspiracy theory? It's like putting that someone thinks you're Bigfoot. I'd think we need to remove that last sentence from the lead. --GRuban (talk) 22:19, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
- Much of the (recent, at least) coverage of Brennan has been because of his research into the identity of Q, which is why I put it in the lead. The fact that, among Q journalists, "some of them think it's likely, everyone agrees it's more than plausible" ([8]) is what made me comfortable doing it. Do you still disagree it should be included? GorillaWarfare (talk) 22:25, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
- "Likely, plausible" isn't the bar that we need to meet for BLP, it's more like truthiness. How about we replace it in the lead with the proven, that he proved QMap was owned by Watkins? --GRuban (talk) 00:05, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
- I've adjusted the lead per your concerns. (Sorry for the capitalization issue with your username). GorillaWarfare (talk) 00:08, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
- "Likely, plausible" isn't the bar that we need to meet for BLP, it's more like truthiness. How about we replace it in the lead with the proven, that he proved QMap was owned by Watkins? --GRuban (talk) 00:05, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
Bus stop
Ok honestly, I think Bus stop is deliberately feigning ignorance to try to frustrate other commenters and provoke angry responses. They can't be THAT blind to the reasons that conservatives have gotten themselves banned from Twitter over the years, nor the same stuff that those conservatives are now posting on Parler that is getting covered in reliable sources. :( IHateAccounts (talk) 22:50, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
- It would seem there's some amount of WP:IDHT given they continue to repeat the WP:OTHERSTUFF Twitter argument. GorillaWarfare (talk) 22:52, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
- I get the same feeling around them that I have about that Jroehl account, and Emir and Swag Lord. I'm not sure why other than it seems to be behavior particular to a clique, half the time they haven't read the policies (or think the policies should read differently if not downright oppositely) and half the time it looks like they never read the sources. IHateAccounts (talk) 23:18, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
- Some of Jroehl's behavior I think can be attributed to unfamiliarity—though the account has been registered since 2009 they have just under 300 edits, only 57 of which were this year. Bus Stop, on the other hand, has 43,000+ edits and advanced userrights, and really ought to have a solid understanding of our policies and guidelines. GorillaWarfare (talk) 23:27, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
- @GorillaWarfare: Ok, Bus Stop is getting very frustrating. I just had to point out that they made a claim based on a Jerusalem Post article which was specifically debunked in the text of the article, at Talk:Parler, and they're yet again ranting about Twitter on the Parler talk page, even to the point of restoring a very obvious WP:NOTFORUM section to rant about it and just re-hash things that people already answered in the RFC section. They've been going at a level I think is hitting WP:BLUDGEON issues along with WP:IDIDNTHEARTHAT constant repetitions of stuff. IHateAccounts (talk) 15:40, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
- Agreed. I hope whichever poor soul closes the RfC is able to wade through it all and see it for what it is. GorillaWarfare (talk) 18:39, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
- It's still happening. I need a drink. .... I should probably not edit Wikipedia while drinking, correct? IHateAccounts (talk) 23:38, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
- What could possibly go wrong? GorillaWarfare (talk) 23:41, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
- I could get angry? I could wind up deciding the disruption has gone on long enough and completely fuck up a filing somewhere? IHateAccounts (talk) 23:48, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
- I could spill it on my keyboard and ruin my laptop? IHateAccounts (talk) 23:48, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
- What could possibly go wrong? GorillaWarfare (talk) 23:41, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
- It's still happening. I need a drink. .... I should probably not edit Wikipedia while drinking, correct? IHateAccounts (talk) 23:38, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
- Agreed. I hope whichever poor soul closes the RfC is able to wade through it all and see it for what it is. GorillaWarfare (talk) 18:39, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
- @GorillaWarfare: Ok, Bus Stop is getting very frustrating. I just had to point out that they made a claim based on a Jerusalem Post article which was specifically debunked in the text of the article, at Talk:Parler, and they're yet again ranting about Twitter on the Parler talk page, even to the point of restoring a very obvious WP:NOTFORUM section to rant about it and just re-hash things that people already answered in the RFC section. They've been going at a level I think is hitting WP:BLUDGEON issues along with WP:IDIDNTHEARTHAT constant repetitions of stuff. IHateAccounts (talk) 15:40, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
- Some of Jroehl's behavior I think can be attributed to unfamiliarity—though the account has been registered since 2009 they have just under 300 edits, only 57 of which were this year. Bus Stop, on the other hand, has 43,000+ edits and advanced userrights, and really ought to have a solid understanding of our policies and guidelines. GorillaWarfare (talk) 23:27, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
- I get the same feeling around them that I have about that Jroehl account, and Emir and Swag Lord. I'm not sure why other than it seems to be behavior particular to a clique, half the time they haven't read the policies (or think the policies should read differently if not downright oppositely) and half the time it looks like they never read the sources. IHateAccounts (talk) 23:18, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
Offically: WOW. IHateAccounts (talk) 01:39, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
- Double Wow. I just realized they put a Katie Hopkins quote on their user page. Spiking a user page with a quote from a european white supremacist is... not something that paints a good picture? IHateAccounts (talk) 04:14, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
sorry
I found your message on my talk page sorry for what I did Atharv Khamkar (talk) 04:40, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
Parler
It appears that "Geremy.Hebert" who previously edited in December 2019, prior to becoming a very staunch removalist on the Parler article, intends to repeatedly remove the content that is under RFC. I have restored it twice but I won't do it again since that would be getting close to the 3RR rule. I think they are getting disruptive, especially since the consensus on the RFC seems to be to retain the content. IHateAccounts (talk) 01:28, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
- I see that. I will open an ANEW report if they continue. GorillaWarfare (talk) 01:28, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
- @IHateAccounts: See WP:ANEW#User:Geremy.Hebert reported by User:GorillaWarfare (Result: ). GorillaWarfare (talk) 01:34, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
- I know you said the page is getting more attention from news coverage but looking at their comments, is it POSSIBLE that Geremy.Hebert and Jroehl are connected? IHateAccounts (talk) 01:53, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
- I would be pretty surprised if they were. GorillaWarfare (talk) 01:55, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
- I know you said the page is getting more attention from news coverage but looking at their comments, is it POSSIBLE that Geremy.Hebert and Jroehl are connected? IHateAccounts (talk) 01:53, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
- @IHateAccounts: See WP:ANEW#User:Geremy.Hebert reported by User:GorillaWarfare (Result: ). GorillaWarfare (talk) 01:34, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
At this point there's got to be someone sending them here from Parler with the same talking points. The sheer repetition amount of "but what about the twitter page" is ridiculous. IHateAccounts (talk) 21:42, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
- Could be. Not much to do about it either way. GorillaWarfare (talk) 22:04, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
Comment by 71.203.10.104
8chan - followed the link to 8chan looking to research qanon conspiracy theory. Link contained Child Pornography. Wikipedia essentially becoming a search engine for Child pornography. Iremoved the links to 8Chan, described doing so in talk, and reported child pornography link. I Believe Wikipedia have a legal obligation to follow up on this issue. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.203.10.104 (talk) 01:17, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- For anything involving legal concerns, please contact the Wikimedia Foundation. GorillaWarfare (talk) 01:22, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
talkt
Why did you remove my reminder to not comment on users??Slatersteven (talk) 18:15, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Slatersteven: Ack, sorry! I've been having an issue with slowness on my computer causing me to misclick rollback links (see here where I explained it in more detail). Usually I notice when it happens and revert immediately but I clearly didn't in this case. Apologies. GorillaWarfare (talk) 18:17, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
damning description of Gab.
Hey, hope this finds you well. I just wanted to send a quick message asking why the description of the Gab social network is so damning. I've been there a lot and none of what you have wrote of it to be so "right wing" . I have however found it enlightening to actually have real dialog there without censorship. is it possible to change what is wrote to accurately describe the site without bias? thanks, from donation giver. 107.190.70.207 (talk) 07:27, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
- Please see any of the discussions at Talk:Gab (social network). The short answer is that Wikipedia articles reflect what is said in reliable, independent sources. GorillaWarfare (talk) 12:12, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
A Duck For You!
The Jackalope 10 award | |
For being cool Jackalope 10 16:49, 15 November 2020 (UTC) |
Bob's Burgers (season 11)
Why did you undo the edit when the episode was airing? Stop vandalizing edits with your rollback ability. 04:13, 16 November 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:470:1f2d:c:78ef:4af3:28d2:17f7 (talk) 04:13, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
- I reverted a change that removed a reference. Please either leave references in place, or if they are improper/no longer available, replace them with a new one. GorillaWarfare (talk) 04:23, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
Magali Roques deletion
I am opening an arbitration request for your deletion of Magali Elise Roques. --Melchior2006 (talk) 07:40, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
- Wiki editors told me to get in touch with you first, before I submit the case to Deletion review. The article about Roques made no attack on her. It did, however, document the fact that several of her publications have been retracted by the editors of scholarly journals because of plagiarism. These are facts that are worthy of documentation, and they are not injuring anyone. --Melchior2006 (talk) 08:51, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
- In my opinion, the situation, while infuriating and unjust, would warrant a WP page only if the scholar herself was already notable or if the incident became a much bigger and broader (and notable) issue beyond the scholar herself (e.g., if it reveals mismanagement and corruption of the employer CNRS, of the journal, or the field as a whole). As it stands, Roques is too junior to qualify for Academic Notability and the coverage of the incident is not significant enough to satisfy General Notability. At the moment, creating such a page risks resulting in a pseudobio, especially if the supportors of Roques continue to edit her page into an academic biography. FlybellFly (talk) 11:14, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
- To note, this case has been removed as premature Dreamy Jazz talk to me | my contributions 15:07, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Melchior2006: I stand by the deletion–she doesn't appear to meet WP:NPROF or the WP:GNG, and the purpose of the biography appeared to be to focus on accusations of plagiarism. It was a WP:COATRACK. If you want to take it to WP:DRV that's fine, but arbitration wasn't the spot for it. GorillaWarfare (talk) 16:46, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
- According to WP:Notability (academics) she fulfills
- 2. The person has received a highly prestigious academic award or honor at a national or international level.
She was given a stipend at the Maison_française_d'Oxford in 2011, one at the Université de Bretagne Occidentale (2011–2012), held a Canada Research Chair for the Theory of Knowledge (2013–2014), was part of the Excellence Cluster Topoi in Berlin (2014–2015), in Genf and Neuenburg 2016, was a fellow at the Helsinki Collegium for Advanced Studies (2017–2018), and held a post-doc in the Philosophy Department (2017-2019). In 2017 she was awarded the Prix Jeunes Chercheurs by La Fondation des Treilles.
What else does a woman have to do to be considered "notable"? I suppose if she was an e-sports player or a porn star this would not be debated. --WiseWoman (talk) 18:08, 16 November 2020 (UTC)- For some reason I do not think she would be thanking those who are trying to get her article restored right now. --GRuban (talk) 18:21, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
- If you would like to bring it to DRV, be my guest. But I assure you my motivation in deleting the article was preventing a largely negative WP:COATRACK on a BLP; I don't appreciate the absurd insinuation I was somehow displaying bias against women in my deletion. GorillaWarfare (talk) 19:07, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for your input; I am going to bring it to DRV. The very fact that such a "successful" young scholar has had her work retracted so often makes her notable in itself. You don't find many plagiarism cases of this magnitude. That justifies the article. --Melchior2006 (talk) 19:13, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
- I look forward to seeing what DRV has to say. GorillaWarfare (talk) 19:15, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
- OK, here it is .... Melchior2006 (talk) 19:28, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks, I've left a note there and added it to my watchlist in case anyone has any questions. GorillaWarfare (talk) 19:58, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
- OK, here it is .... Melchior2006 (talk) 19:28, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
- I look forward to seeing what DRV has to say. GorillaWarfare (talk) 19:15, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for your input; I am going to bring it to DRV. The very fact that such a "successful" young scholar has had her work retracted so often makes her notable in itself. You don't find many plagiarism cases of this magnitude. That justifies the article. --Melchior2006 (talk) 19:13, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
- 2. The person has received a highly prestigious academic award or honor at a national or international level.
- According to WP:Notability (academics) she fulfills
Deletion review for Magali Elise Roques
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Magali Elise Roques. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Melchior2006 (talk) 19:28, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
Please unprotect WP:LTA/INTSF
Anons should be able to edit the page, I just found out that VPN usage in this case is involved. 173.56.224.210 (talk) 15:10, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
- Can you explain why you need to edit the page? GorillaWarfare (talk) 16:45, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
- This user is using a VPN, FreePN. They're using the same IPs as me. 173.56.224.210 (talk) 16:52, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
- Okay, but that doesn't explain why you need to edit the LTA page. GorillaWarfare (talk) 16:55, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
- I need to edit the page to make people aware of their behaviour. 173.56.224.210 (talk) 16:57, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
- Open proxy concerns can be reported at Wikipedia:WikiProject on open proxies. GorillaWarfare (talk) 17:01, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
- This user is forging my signature. View the page history. 173.56.224.210 (talk) 17:02, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
- Open proxy concerns can be reported at Wikipedia:WikiProject on open proxies. GorillaWarfare (talk) 17:01, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
- I need to edit the page to make people aware of their behaviour. 173.56.224.210 (talk) 16:57, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
- Okay, but that doesn't explain why you need to edit the LTA page. GorillaWarfare (talk) 16:55, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
- This user is using a VPN, FreePN. They're using the same IPs as me. 173.56.224.210 (talk) 16:52, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
Protecting the Plot Against the President
Hello, could you please protect the article The Plot Against The President to require autoconfirmed users? There's now been several vandalism attempts. Is there another place this should be requested? Thanks Lord Pharazon (talk) 00:57, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
- Yes, you can request page protection at WP:RFPP. Personally I'm not seeing sufficient recent disruptive activity to justify protection, but no objection to you trying your luck with a different admin at RFPP if you like. GorillaWarfare (talk) 01:00, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
Geremy.Hebert
Hi GorillaWarfare,
it looks like a bot removed the block notices at https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Geremy.Hebert&action=history, is that normal? IHateAccounts (talk) 03:27, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
- Yeah, I don't know if (or what) the archive bots check to determine if talk page messages should be archived, other than just their age. But it's only declined unblock notices that are not allowed to be removed (per WP:UP#CMT) so I think it's fine. If they appeal the block, it'll be easy enough for the reviewing admin to fish the block notice and related discussion out of the archive or page history. GorillaWarfare (talk) 03:30, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
Message from 172.58.30.212
You recently reverted an edit of mine on the anti-racism page. I think on your part and a couple of other editors it was a misunderstanding but to the originators of the content I edited it was and is not. The photo at the top of the anti-racism page is blatant propaganda. You can easily tell by looking at the histories of some of the editors. The poster of the photo was also banned for trolling. In addition, the description of the photo on Wikipedia Commons is inaccurate and makes it look like it wasn’t really posted by an Israeli or posted by one with an ulterior motive because no one in the photo would likely be described as white. They are from the same background that in most of the west would be described as a person of color - or at least in the current discourse and parlance that the Anti-Racism movement exists in. I got part of the it removed so it is not that bad in the caption but the intent behind and effect of the propaganda still exists due to the source of the photo. Further, letting people spread hate on a site that is allegedly about equality (which most of it is I think but this photo is not posted by the well intentioned) is not a good policy because essentially it is like telling the KKK “well you guys can control your page...as long as your only reasonably antagonistic to others rather than blatantly”. Honestly, a section on racist/anti-Semitic behavior in this new movement should be added to the page. I personally would prefer the page to be deleted and salted and then let the people that are allowed to edit the “Anti-Racism” section on the “Racism” page instead. Or lock the English Anti-Racism page and allow the Racism page approved editors on the page. Also, I would like to note that this is somewhat what already happened on the French page. Further, absolutely none of my edits were inappropriate in any way and were unequivocally constructive. In fact, the photo I tried to put in its place is EXTREMELY REPRESENTATIVE of anti-racism as it is not just a photo of a crowd but a symbol of the movement/theory. The (not you) knowing reverts to put the propaganda back up are vandalism. This is all recently an issue on the anti-racism page and should be taken care of sooner rather than later. Just because you have a lot of vandalism by a group of editors that claim vandalism on behalf of others to create a power play for editing does not make a legitimate edit vandalism - it’s quite the opposite. Wikipedia is used by scores of impressionable college aged people and to inundate them with this type of hatred/suspicion of an ethnic group is not appropriate. Wikipedia isn’t just for the editors to share a message but also for readers to gain valuable and accurate information. Not propaganda. To allow a subtle underhanded propagandist message on Wikipedia like this one is in a way supporting the message - especially when the intention of the message has been brought to the attention of the editors and in spite of legitimate edits to remove it, it (Wikipedia and/or it’s team/editors) fail to take action. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.58.30.212 (talk) 15:13, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
- @172.58.30.212: Such discussions should be held at Talk:Anti-racism, as Aquillion has already mentioned to you via edit summary. I reverted your edit because it removed the image with no edit summary at all, which appeared to just be vandalism -- this is why edit summaries are important. I have no real insight into whether or not the image is appropriate, but it appears other editors thing it is -- that's why you should engage them at the article talk. GorillaWarfare (talk) 15:42, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
I get maybe not wanting to be involved at this point but you did my edit as a member of an arbitration committee- representing Wikipedia on some level at least. I’ll try the talk page but the edit summary is explained over and over again on other edits too. And this is not opinion under any circumstances. I reject ANY NOTION that removing what is Anti-Semitic propaganda to be vandalism (in fact many would find it highly offensive). The other editors can see how much it is being taken off and the justification for it. I did put a description plenty of times. They are choosing propaganda over edits- that was my point when I said one group of high energy editors for their propaganda does not make what they are doing not that. Just because everyone holds an anti-Semitic view and says “oh it’s fine and normal” doesn’t take away that it is anti-Semitic. You understand that literally over 20 million people were killed about 80 years ago and it started specifically with this type of material being disseminated. Specifically, I don’t really have that large of family because of it so if you think this is just a “whining complaint”, it’s not going away. Please contact who you need to to get the photo off while I keep working on it. Any argument that someone will make to justify this photo remaining will be absolute trash. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.58.30.212 (talk) 16:18, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
- I am researching it as we speak. It would be particularly useful if you could explain specifically what the image is representing and what the issue is -- I can't read the text on the sign and the image description is not particularly informative. I am looking on Commons to see if there is a more clearly-appropriate image than that one to use for now while discussion unfolds on the talk page. GorillaWarfare (talk) 16:21, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
- I have temporarily replaced the image, and created a section for you to explain your concerns: Talk:Anti-racism#Image GorillaWarfare (talk) 16:35, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Admin's Barnstar | |
For clearing out the backlog at WP:RFPP practically single handed. Amazing work! MelanieN (talk) 23:46, 17 November 2020 (UTC) |
- +1 :) Jr8825 • Talk 00:36, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
- Sure thing! GorillaWarfare (talk) 01:10, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
Regarding Fox News...
This came up today. https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/17/media/fox-news-newsmax-ratings/index.html IHateAccounts (talk) 00:19, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
- How the turntables... GorillaWarfare (talk) 01:10, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
Edit Warring
I brought it up here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Edit_warring Yousef Raz (talk) 03:10, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Yousef Raz: Your report was quite malformed. I've fixed it for you, but there's a lot you still need to fill out: Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring#User:Therequiembellishere reported by User:Yousef Raz (Result: ) GorillaWarfare (talk) 03:25, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for your help.Yousef Raz (talk) 04:11, 18 November 2020 (UTC)