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[[Image:Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar.png|100px|frame|right|For giving an excellent reply where others may have just tried to get away from the question, I award ''Gnfnrf'' this Kindness Barnstar. -<span>[[User:Prodego|<font color="darkgreen">''Prodego''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:Prodego|<font color="darkgreen">talk</font>]]</sup></span>]] |
[[Image:Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar.png|100px|frame|right|For giving an excellent reply where others may have just tried to get away from the question, I award ''Gnfnrf'' this Kindness Barnstar. -<span>[[User:Prodego|<font color="darkgreen">''Prodego''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:Prodego|<font color="darkgreen">talk</font>]]</sup></span>]] |
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Hello Gnfnrf, I am contacting you because I am in need of help and you have helped me previously. I'm fairly new to Wikipedia. |
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Hello Gnfnrf, I am contacting you because I am in need of help and you have helped me previously. I'm fairly new to Wikipedia. I noticed some reverted edits by user 69.239.112.1 to the [[Kyle Justin]] article performed by another moderator. This 69.239.112.1user has edited the article several times, performing destructive edits. I believe these edits are covered under the vandalism policy as they are repeated and unnecessary. She has edited the article more than a few times, deleting necessary information, claiming it as redundant, when it is not. The information she has deleted is either not referenced elsewhere in the article or is necessary to repeat in order to properly lay out a time-line of events. I created this article for a musician I am fond of and myself and several others have contributed edits and citations. I believe we have cited the article well. I am looking for help to prevent further vandalism by this article, as she has performed these same edits about 5 times. The user 69.239.112.1 is actually a woman named [[Jessicka Fodera]] of the band [[Scarling]] (both have Wiki articles) who is a former bandmate in [[Scarling]] of [[Kyle Justin]]'s. I know this because it is the same IP that she uses on an old band's message board that I moderated on. She also only edits her own pages if you see her contributions. I believe she has also has attempted to vandalize other articles. I believe she is removing information out of spite and for her own motives, not to make Wikipedia or the article better. I am seeking help in preventing further vandalism. I sought help from another user named writingmodification but I don't believe they are an administrator. Any help, advice, or recommendations are greatly appreciated. Thanks ahead of time. I am perturbed and perplexed. -Matt, M. W. Eilers 03:30, 27 November 2008 (UTC) <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Godblessyrblackheart|Godblessyrblackheart]] ([[User talk:Godblessyrblackheart|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Godblessyrblackheart|contribs]]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:First, I'd just like to say that I'm impressed with how much you've done with the Kyle Justin article thus far. I'll admit, when I first encountered it, I thought it was never going to reasonably meet Wikipedia article standards, which is why I redirected it. You've demonstrated that I was wrong, and I commend you. On to your current situation, now. I agree with your assessment of the edits in question; while there is some repetition, that is OK on Wikipedia. In fact, everything in the lead section of an article should be repeated, in greater detail, later in the article. |
:First, I'd just like to say that I'm impressed with how much you've done with the Kyle Justin article thus far. I'll admit, when I first encountered it, I thought it was never going to reasonably meet Wikipedia article standards, which is why I redirected it. You've demonstrated that I was wrong, and I commend you. On to your current situation, now. I agree with your assessment of the edits in question; while there is some repetition, that is OK on Wikipedia. In fact, everything in the lead section of an article should be repeated, in greater detail, later in the article. |
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:However, it appears to me that your fundamental difference with this user is a content dispute. That is to say, I don't see any reason not to [[WP:AGF|assume good faith]] and believe that they are making edits that they believe make the article better. Just because someone is wrong does not mean that they are a vandal. |
:However, it appears to me that your fundamental difference with this user is a content dispute. That is to say, I don't see any reason not to [[WP:AGF|assume good faith]] and believe that they are making edits that they believe make the article better. Just because someone is wrong does not mean that they are a vandal. |
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Thanks for your editorial help on the Texas Ranger Phil Ryan article. 76.187.17.173 03:14, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
A couple of IPs have been vandalising that article all day. Want to keep an eye on it? --iriseyestalk 20:23, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
TTEthernet
Hello Gnfnrf,
I put the TTEthernet article online again - but I completely rewrote it and I think now it is really as it has to be to be conform with the wikipedia rules. I am looking forward to your feedback and thank you for your help with giving me advices. --Gnalk (talk) 11:34, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
The music Man
Hello Gnfnrf, you created an article The music Man, but I think the article already exists at Santouri (film), someone has nominated your article for deletion, but I've updated Music Man to include a link to Santouri. I think that all the points you made are in the article. I hope that all makes sense, If I've got that wrong and it is a different film, please write me a note here or on my talk page. ℑonathan ℂardy(talk) 12:53, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
AfD nomination of Four Wise Monkeys
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An article that you have been involved in editing, Four Wise Monkeys, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Four Wise Monkeys. Thank you. Do you want to opt out of receiving this notice? Movingboxes (talk) 13:45, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
Speedy deletion
Hi, you've just marked a page for CSD, good! Can you tackle new pages via Special:Newpages and then mark them as having been "patrolled" that why the rest of us working the list don't bother with the one's you've done. The best way, I find, is to open the new page up via Special:Newpages and then mark it as having been patrolled then go into the new page and then tag it. Thanks fr33kman (talk) 04:42, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
- I've tried the whole 'patrolled' thing, and it just doesn't work for me. Too many times I see patrolled pages where either the original patroller's solution (prod, csd, whatever) is subsequently removed. So, my theory (on CSDs, anyway) is that I shouldn't tag them patrolled. That way, if the tag is removed, another NP patroller might look at it and retag the page. I do mark patrolled pages I see on newpages that I expect will stay in the encyclopedia. Cheers. gnfnrf (talk) 04:47, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
I also posted this message on another user's page.
I see your position, and understand your reasons. I'm really not a bad user, and I literally spent alomost all of Labor Day Constructing that article. It's just kind of depressing that that old building had no significance in the eyes of the world. It sure ment a lot for me. I read the notability guidelines, yes, and I can guarentee the existence of both that book and the newspaper article. If you would like, I can scan the church's constitution (assuming that most churches don't have one) and the newspaper article in question if it can save that article. It's 6:40 AM here on the Eastern Seaboard, and I may be able to obtain that article by sundown on September 3rd (Eastern Standard Time). I'll scan it, quote it, whatever it takes, I just want one of my contributions to survive more than seven days... just once.
My apologies for annoying you. I really am not a vandal, but I never have been that good of a contributer as far as content, since I always have been terrible at citing them. I guess I'll just stick to existing articles. I do believe, though that my contributions in that article fell upon the "Be Bold" policy, and I did my research alright, most definitely.
TurtleShroom! :) †Jesus Loves You and Died for you!† 10:49, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
P.S.: The fact that you stated that you trusted my citation on that book, that meant a lot to me. Thank you, sir. Have a great day.
P.S. 2.0: Unfortnately, that newspaper article ran in the 1950s, so it may be hard to track down.
Repost articale as is. Siting "Neutral point of view"
I am siting wikipedia's Neutral Point of view rule to have this articale Unknown Creature, The (2005 Movie) be reposted as is siting that those comments supporting it be deleted where in violation of wikipedia's Neutral point of view. Articale for deletion. The comments also sounded to favor the bigger man over the smaller man, and had no clear idea on how far $200.00 can go when your just shooting on VHS and already have the equipment on hand. The money was used to buy tapes, pay for automated sound mixing(to provide Dolby Digital 5.1)and DVD athoring software that coasts alot plus blank DVD and DVD cases bought wholesale that put the project overbudget.
I'm sure you will get it now. Robert (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 10:18, 11 September 2008 (UTC).
- While I nominated the article in question for deletion, I did not actually delete it, and I have no way of restoring it. To do so, you would first want to talk to the deleting admin, User_talk:Seicer. If that fails, then you would need to take your case to deletion review at WP:DRV. gnfnrf (talk) 12:28, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
- Or he could just, you know, stop wasting everyone's time. ^_^ JuJube (talk) 03:33, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
- Or maybe you've taken the time and have the patience to help make this editor more constructive. We need to increase your activity/experience level, but I was wondering if you had any plans to make this a blue link. Dlohcierekim 20:37, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
- Or he could just, you know, stop wasting everyone's time. ^_^ JuJube (talk) 03:33, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
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For taking the time and having the people skills and patience to help explain to a new user how Wikipedia works and hopefully deescalate the situation Dlohcierekim 20:29, 12 September 2008 (UTC) |
I won't change my mind.
Get it straight dude, if you say that the administration are the editors then you should just log out right now and never log back in again. They say on the page for my exile from wikipedia is that you need two people to present evidence. You got a few, but those others that still have a problem with me, and trying to get rid of me now are faced with another problem that I bet they wheren't expecting; and that is in my responce I in-criminate myself just to make a point, and that point is that I am willing to admit that I made a mistake. If you guys are the administration then I suggest you hand.
Did you delete my articale about my movie because it was never in theaters or that I never went to film school; or if it was just poorly written? Poor writing is a skill I don't have, just poor critisium coming from every which way. Cause face it, you and I got clowns on the left of us and jokers on our rights and where suck in the middle.
I can tell that your own my side but you still have to enforse the rules, and that puts you in a tight spot. Roberttheman2008 (talk) 21:04, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
- I've explained my reasoning for the deletion nomination several times, not the least of which is in the AfD itself. To clarify one last time, the article was not about a notable subject (WP:N, was not verifiable (WP:V)through reliable sources (WP:RS), and it seemed likely that no reliable sources could be found to verify it. The quality of the writing was not a factor in my nomination decision, because deletion is intended for articles that cannot be fixed, and bad writing can be fixed. As an aside, I too have participated in the making of an independent film, which you can see the website of here [1]. The film is real and finished, and you can buy copies. However, I know that this film will likely never warrant a Wikipedia article, due to the policies I cited above. As for who's side I'm on, I think that the policies I've mentioned are good for the encyclopedia, and that is why I help enforce them. I don't want to be against anyone who contributes to the encyclopedia in good faith, but I don't want the project to suffer because of contributions that don't help. gnfnrf (talk) 21:20, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
You hipicrite! I had valid information on that page. Just as valid as the information you just showed me on yours, same exact stuff. The cast, the plot, where to buy a DVD, an offical website; all of it!!! Roberttheman2008 (talk) 22:16, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
- You missed the point. Really Decadent Guys doesn't have an article on Wikipedia. Likely, it never will. Even though (just like The Unknown Creature) it's a real film, that is out on DVD and you can buy, it just isn't notable enough for Wikipedia. My film (or, to be more accurate, my friends film) is on its own webpage, and yours can be too. But mine isn't on Wikipedia, and neither should yours be, because Wikipedia is not a webhost, (WP:NOTWEBHOST)). gnfnrf (talk) 22:27, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
opper fiber
I would hope that if you are going around trying to delete entries that are clearly commercial, you should look into Sharpie markers, 3M, McDonalds, Boeing, Post-it and virtually every other million ACTUAL product entries that are in violation of advertising a product. this entry has more historical significance in its alpha stage than the actual microfiber wiki entry itself. Your mark for deletion is inappropriate and unacceptable. Integrity suggests you review every product you wear on your body or use daily and I bet you will find it on here. This entry does not have 10% of what those entries boast in commercialization and advertising value. It is a wrongful tag. accept it, be accountable and please remove. Repotox (talk) 22:29, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
Foster Cass
Can you check out his page and tell me what you think concerning the notability of him? Kevin Rutherford (talk) 01:52, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
- It looks like it was deleted before you left the message. I'll retackle the creation tomorrow. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 21:35, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
Re: Mummy 1770
Thanks for that. Change to CSD to nonsense, talking on article talk page. PoinDexta1 | Talk to Me | 00:42, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
Thank you! I hate it when CSD:A7 is misused. CSD:G12 was the right way to go. Nice work! — X S G 04:05, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
Steve Samuelian
It seems like joshcc is trying to turn the page into a promo piece for California Consulting. Your guidance would be appreciated.Flackthehack2008 (talk) 02:36, 4 October 2008 (UTC) I am concerned about the Steve Samuelian page. Joshcc appears to only edit Steve Samuelian and the earlier work on the site was practically a promo site for california consulting. Your guidance would be appreciated.Flackthehack2008 (talk) 16:24, 24 October 2008 (UTC) Please keep an eye on the Samuelian page. Their are users trying to turn into a promo piece!!!Flackthehack2008 (talk) 23:44, 27 October 2008 (UTC) The Steve Samuelian page needs attention again. Thanks.Flackthehack2008 (talk) 18:41, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
DARK WOODS
JUST DID AN INTERVIEW WITH THE CAST MEMBERS OF DARK WOODS. IT IS NOT PUBLISHED YET, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THIS FILM DEALS WITH CANCER AND DEMENTIA OF A WOMAN, EVEN THE ALZHEIMER ASSOCIATEN IS INVOLVED IN THIS PROJECT. A REALLY MOVEING STORY.
I POSTED ONE LINK MORE ON THE DARK WOODS SITE, BUT I WOULDN'T REMOVE AN INDIE FILM WHO DEALS WITH SUCH A SERIOUS THEME.
BEST, ROBERTO —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.169.18.201 (talk) 10:30, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
Hey, I saw your response on the AfD for A Bullet in the Arse. Like you I originally thought it was going to be a delete but I saw a number of sources which changed my mind for the most part. Take a look if you'd like and see if anything I found changes your mind too. --Banime (talk) 16:22, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
Hello. I am quite new on Wikipedia and I saw your comment on my article about the royal swedish navy youth band. It has now been cathegorized and motivated and I hope that you will find it decent for this website! Regards, (Theophonium (talk) 08:57, 20 October 2008 (UTC))
good catch
good catch on the hoax at Carrera Vilcas. Ling.Nut (talk—WP:3IAR) 13:10, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
Deletion of Betsy Fagin
Hi, I have not had internet access for most of the month so have just discovered the deletion of the Betsy Fagin article. I believe that the current generation of New York poets should be represented by articles. Can you tell me how the article on Anselm Berrigan (one of Fagin's contemporaries), for example, meets the notability guidelines while the one I started on Fagin did not? Lillipeg (talk) 19:43, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
terraskin
My article was removed due to violations. I was wondering what exactly I can do to remake the page so that it fits the guidelines. I am in no way interested in promoting any business. I just want to add the facts about this product, that may very well be the future of packaging and paper. Was there key things that were in the article that need to be removed? Was it the entire article? Should I try to be more brief? Explain more? Any help in guiding me in the right direction would be great. If there are users who specialize in creating pages, can I send them the information? Thanks ahead of time for your understanding. Bobbyksehgal (talk) 18:58, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your help.
Bobbyksehgal (talk) 21:10, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
RE: Soft Charisma
1. The COI guidelines clearly state that it's strongly discouraged to not COI edit, however, they state that you should follow the neutral point of view policy. I have done this with the article.
2. As for notability, that's probably correct. Anyway, I'd rather not be notable by Wikipedia's 'standards'. This middle ground is a much more suitable environment.
--Sc0ttkclark (talk) 22:36, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
About The Glocester Sea Serpent and misunder standings
Frist of im sorry about the missunder standing and second of i didnt have as much information as the other artical because i started it yester day and I was saving it so i wouldn't lose the information.
§C.JD 22:13, 23 November 2008 (UTC)--C.JD 22:20, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
Mrs. Spencer
Good call on the redirect for Mrs. Spencer - knowing nothing about The Simpsons, I didn't spot the link! Unusual? Quite TalkQu 21:31, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
Kyle Justin
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Hello Gnfnrf, I am contacting you because I am in need of help and you have helped me previously. I'm fairly new to Wikipedia. (one comment removed here Chzz ► 20:49, 27 March 2009 (UTC))
- First, I'd just like to say that I'm impressed with how much you've done with the Kyle Justin article thus far. I'll admit, when I first encountered it, I thought it was never going to reasonably meet Wikipedia article standards, which is why I redirected it. You've demonstrated that I was wrong, and I commend you. On to your current situation, now. I agree with your assessment of the edits in question; while there is some repetition, that is OK on Wikipedia. In fact, everything in the lead section of an article should be repeated, in greater detail, later in the article.
- However, it appears to me that your fundamental difference with this user is a content dispute. That is to say, I don't see any reason not to assume good faith and believe that they are making edits that they believe make the article better. Just because someone is wrong does not mean that they are a vandal.
- So, what do I recommend you do? Try to engage the user in a discussion about why you think the article should be the way it is. I would use either the IP's talkpage at User_talk:69.239.112.1 or the article talkpage. Leave a polite and detailed note, explaining why you think the article should read the way it does, citing article style guides as appropriate (WP:BETTER is a good place to start for those). If your changes are reverted after you've posted this, refer to it in the edit summary the next time you re-revert (and watch out for the three revert rule.
- If this doesn't work, then you can try some of Wikipedia's dispute resolution tools, like a third opinion or a request for comment. Of course, if the other user becomes more obviously disruptive, then you have other channels open to you.
- Lastly, I'd just like to point out that I am not an administrator; I'm just another editor like you. Nearly everything on Wikipedia can be, and is, accomplished by regular editors. Administrators are just regular editors with a few extra technical tools to accomplish a few tasks that ordinary editors can't (like user blocks and article deletion).
- I hope this has helped you. I understand that dealing with another editor who seems to be worsening articles is frustrating, but remember, Wikipedia consensus is a powerful force that can be very effective at keeping good edits and purging bad edits, if you let it work. gnfnrf (talk) 06:28, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
- When I left the talkback tag, I noticed that it looks like you've gotten some other editors involved, who may be treating this a little more like vandalism and a little less like a content dispute. That may be a better way to go, but I'd still try to assume good faith and open a discussion about the edits, even if only because it can show later that you really tried to do things by consensus. gnfnrf (talk) 06:32, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
Norman McGuire
Hello, I am Ginger Simmons, agent for Norman McGuire. I am adding Mr. McGuire's information to Wikepedia and it looks like the system is trying to delete the information. Mr. McGuire is an up and coming actor who has had 3 very big roles this year. He has worked on two shows with one Emmy Award "Breaking Bad" and the other a Emmy Nomination "Friday Night Lights". Mr. McGuire is also being cast on several other TV Shows in the next few months. If you look at his information you can see his information in acurate. His IMDB page will verify his information: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3179896/resume
Mr. McGuire has also been cast as one of the principal actors on the film "Cottonmouth Creek" with notable actor Billy Bob Thorton.
Please keep the information on the site as the fan base increases there will be a listing. As of now it is an embarrassment to have the "This article is being considered for deletion in accordance with Wikipedia's deletion policy" come up on the search.
Thank you, Ginger Simmons Manager - Norman McGuire Twin Light Films —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mcguiresys (talk • contribs) 05:39, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
- Hi. While I nominated the Norman McGuire article for deletion, you should state your reasons for keeping the article at the deletion discussion page here Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Norman_McGuire, where a consensus on whether to keep the article will be reached within the next 5 days. However, there are some specific things I'd like to address.
- First, please read WP:COI, specifically, the section on "promotional article production on behalf of clients". Wikipedia articles should be written from a neutral point of view. As the subject's agent, it is nearly impossible for you to do this (as it would be for anyone in your situation).
- Second, please look at Wikipedia's guidelines for the notability of actors at WP:ENTERTAINER. I do not see how Norman McGuire's credits, as listed on his resume, meet this standard. The IMDB, being built from user submissions, is not generally considered a reliable source on Wikipedia, and certainly doesn't demonstrate notability. In this case, it's even worse, because Norman McGuire has no credits in the IMDB database. The only thing he has is an uploaded resume, which has not been even been fact checked to the extent the credits database has.
- Please understand, I have nothing against Norman McGuire. But unlike sites such as the IMDB, Wikipedia does not try, or indeed wish, to include all actors. Wikipedia only includes notable actors. Norman McGuire is not yet a notable actor, and should not have an article on Wikipedia. gnfnrf (talk) 06:12, 6 December 2008 (UTC)