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== You have violated parole - again == |
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Giovanni I'd like to point out that you've clearly broken your parole (again). With [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=State_terrorism_and_the_United_States&diff=195508509&oldid=195379042 this edit] on 3 March you reverted the addition of text, even if it was short, and the tags as you have done previously. You then followed that up with [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=State_terrorism_and_the_United_States&diff=195616860&oldid=195570148 another edit] within a mere 24 hours that again removed text (a lot more) and you classed yourself as a reversion. |
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I'm not going to report you, but I really think you need to stop trying to dance around the restrictions put on you. Just don't remove/heavily alter text unless everyone agrees on it. Make the suggestion on the talk page and let someone else do it, which they will if it's a good idea. [[User:John Smith's|John Smith's]] ([[User talk:John Smith's|talk]]) 20:53, 4 March 2008 (UTC) |
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:The first was not a revert of text unless you count the tag issue, but the last time it was ruled that the tag does not count as such. Also, per our agreement there is no reporting, and I would say that includes reporting it to me. :) Only the second was a revert.[[User:Giovanni33|Giovanni33]] ([[User talk:Giovanni33#top|talk]]) 22:11, 4 March 2008 (UTC) |
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::We did not agree to not report each other - I checked BigT's page and I'm quite sure I said "not agreed" because I wasn't happy with a total restriction, which was what you wanted. If I did agree to something please show the diff so I can see what I wrote. [[User:John Smith's|John Smith's]] ([[User talk:John Smith's|talk]]) 21:53, 5 March 2008 (UTC) |
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:::Maybe I'm mistaken or maybe it was still undecided, although I thought it was.[[User:Giovanni33|Giovanni33]] ([[User talk:Giovanni33#top|talk]]) 21:54, 5 March 2008 (UTC) |
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::::The only thing we agreed on was not to edit the Jung Chang and Mao: Unknown Story pages without the other's consent (except for minor changes, which Hong would revert if either objected) and to keep away from three articles each, or so. [[User:John Smith's|John Smith's]] ([[User talk:John Smith's|talk]]) 22:50, 5 March 2008 (UTC) |
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Chang/Halliday reviews
Hey Giovanni, I'd be happy to send you the reviews of the book I found. Your Wiki e-mail is not enabled but mine is, so do you want to just send me an e-mail and that I'll write back at whatever address you prefer? I have to send them as attachments.--Bigtimepeace | talk | contribs 19:28, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, sure. Thanks!Giovanni33 19:47, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
New Job?
If anything, I'd have access to WP headquarters around the block:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/10/10/BU69SNMQ2.DTL&tsp=1
Yes, I might actually apply, if they have any openings. I'd even be willing to take a pay cut.heheGiovanni33 21:59, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
Please join the ongoing dispute in the Christianity by country article, it is important for us to hear new opinions and to resolve the dispute. Andreyx109 10:53, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
The above-linked arbitration case has closed. John Smith's and you are subject to identical editing restrictions for one year. You are both limited to one revert per page per week (excepting obvious vandalism), and are required to discuss any content reversions on the page's talk page. Should either of you exceed this limit or fail to discuss a content reversion, you may be blocked. For the Arbitration Committee, Picaroon (t) 20:19, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
Need to shorten your conversations
I just looked over your Arbcom ruling where you were fortunatly not banned, and I have got to say, you really need to cut down on how much you write. I often go back reading my edits and delete the nonessential stuff. If you edit more viciously your comments, more people will listen to you. After one paragraph, people lose interest (I have the same problem of writing to much too BTW). Travb (talk) 15:46, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
Plus, please archive your talk page. Thanks. Travb (talk) 15:47, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, you are right. They are prodigious and flowerly plants that could use a lot of trimming, but this humble gardener prefers to let them grow wild. I hope not too many have gotten lost in the weeds as they venture through. hehe If someone knows how to archive my talk page, I'd be grateful.Giovanni33 16:40, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
- Archiving is easy, you simply create a new page User talk:Giovanni33/Archive 66 (for example). Then cut and paste the above to the new User talk:Giovanni33/Archive 66. But off course, the numbers should be sequental (in order).
- I added the {{archive-nav|11}} at the top of all three of your pages. (the number that you put in the template is the number of the archive.
- When you are ready to make an archive, you can go to archive 3, then click on the red link to create archive 4.
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Interesting new site:
http://radar.oreilly.com/archives/2007/10/wikipediavision.html Giovanni33 01:13, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Violation of revert limitation
You have violated the restriction placed on you at Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Giovanni33-John Smith's#Giovanni33 restricted. This revert was your first, and this was your second; as they were within a week, it violated the conditions. Please undo your latest revert as soon as possible, and I'll leave this as a warning; if it happens again, you will most likely be blocked in accordance with the enforcement mechanism. Thanks, Picaroon (t) 01:02, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
- Hi Gio, I left a note on Picaroon's page about this asking for leniency toward both you and John (who also technically violated his ArbCom conditions) but agree that you should revert yourself if you are still online. I think we're really close to a consensus on this and we can hammer out the last issues on the talk page. I can make any necessary changes so neither you or John have to violate your rv restrictions.--Bigtimepeace | talk | contribs 01:21, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I'd gladly self revert but it may be impractical now since there have been other edits since my last edit. Thanks for the warning. I think John Smith needs an equal warning since he did the same thing, before I did, and he seems to be under the impression and doing partial reverts, if he combines them with making other changes doesnt count as a revert.Giovanni33 18:54, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
- It's not impractical - you can revert to the earlier version after I made my edit. I'm sure Picaroon wouldn't mind that for the moment as a sign of good faith from you. Also you reverted more than just the once when you restored the content on Dr Gao and Kaz Ross here - please don't imply I am somehow the cause of this. The warning is not optional. Either you should revert back or you may get blocked - you can't say "thanks for the warning now let's pretend I never broke my revert parole". John Smith's 20:55, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
- If I revert back I'm undoing several other edits from other editors in the process. Hence it not practicable. Lets just focus on the content on the talk page and come to some measure of consensus on the issues. I'm willing to compromise as I've stated there already. Also, by your logic you'd have to self revert your changes after I did, since you violated the terms by 2 reversions within a week.Giovanni33 21:12, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
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Thanks for participating in my request for adminship, which ended with 56 supports, one oppose, and one neutral. I hope to accomplish beyond what is expected of me and work to help those that lent me their trust. east.718 at 02:36, 11/4/2007 |
A note
Hey Giovanni, just wanted to let you know that I'm taking a (hopefully) lengthy wikibreak and therefore a break from our discussion at the Mao: The Unknown Story article, among other things. I think the main issues there are fairly well resolved at this point and hope that you agree. In spite of everything I think we made some good improvements to the article, which is obviously cool.
You're a smart editor with a lot to contribute at Wikipedia--maybe just avoid the wiki-drama for awhile, i.e. work on some less controversial shit! I don't want to see you get in trouble after your ArbCom case so my advice (for whatever it's worth) is to keep your head down/take the 1RR thing to heart. You don't need to revert frequently (or even at all) in order to make your presence felt, believe me. I'll be generally off-wiki for awhile but I'm sure I'll see you around here eventually, peace!--Bigtimepeace | talk | contribs 11:05, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks, Bigtimepeace. I agree with you we did make major needed improvements. Thanks for all your help. I'm actually on a bit of a wikibreak right now myself. And, I'll be camping this weekend.Giovanni33 21:40, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
Jung Chang
I would appreciate a reponse to the points I raised here - thank you. John Smith's (talk) 11:01, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
Giovanni if you stop your weekly revert then no one needs to be warned. It would help if you state clearly on the talk page how many people make a consensus, or whether we all need to agree on something to be that. John Smith's (talk) 07:33, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
Anonymous44/No.91
I liked your addition to User:Anonymous44#NPA, you made a good summary of his technique. Jbowler (talk) 21:06, 25 December 2007 (UTC) John Bowler
- This was a misundertanding, the guy meant to post this to User:GabrielF. :) Have a nice day, anyway! --Anonymous44 (talk) 21:45, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
Nope, I meant your, Giovanni33's, comment, although I admit it is unclear from Anonymous44's talk page whether you were directing it at GabrielF or Anonymous44. It just seemed to fit Anonymous44's actions so well. 74.32.171.56 (talk) 09:27, 27 December 2007 (UTC) John Bowler
RfC on Jung Chang
I have opened one up to gain further comments on the matter under dispute on the talk page. I hope you will take part rather than revert on Monday. John Smith's (talk) 23:23, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Interesting article on Wikipedia
A friend brought this to my attention. Its an interesting article, to say the least: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/12/04/wikipedia_secret_mailing/Giovanni33 (talk) 09:35, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
The gifts of the Holiday Season
Thought I'd share this story. So, when asked by family and friends what I want for Xmas (Christ Myth), and/or my birthday which is very close by, I simply said, "make a donation to a worthy charity in my name!" Low and behold, someone thinks Wikipedia to be that worthy charity of choice! Oh, of course, they all know I am a proud Wikipedian, but most do not approve of my being a wikiholic. These enablers!
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Giovanni33 (talk) 23:50, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
24 hour block
For "fail[ing] to discuss a content reversion" at New antisemitism, you have been blocked for 24 hours in line with the ArbCom decision at Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Giovanni33-John Smith's. I discussed this block at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Block of Giovanni for ArbCom enforcement. When your block expires, you are welcome to contribute productively, but remember to adhere to the restrictions given by the ArbCom. – Quadell (talk) (random) 22:09, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
- Opps, I just used the edit summary to state my reasons, since there was no discussion about the change. Who reported me to the enforcement board anyway? A simple note to me would have sufficed for me to discuss this on the talk page. Ironically, now I cant discuss it, until after my block expires.Giovanni33 (talk) 23:54, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
My Rfa
My effort to regain adminship was unsuccessful, and I'll do what I can to ensure your opinion of my suitability for adminship improves. Thank you for taking some time out of your day to voice your opinion.--MONGO 05:00, 28 January 2008 (UTC) Thanks, Mongo. I look forward to a positive, productive, cooperative year with you as a fellow wikipedian--and many more years to come!Giovanni33 (talk) 05:11, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
Condensing comments
Hi. You gotta learn to better condense comments. Much better. Too often I noticed you advancing a point with tenfold the words needed to put it across. And the result, on Wikipedia, is that few people bother reading the entire thing closely. Regards, El_C 10:58, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks, and that is true.Giovanni33 (talk)
- Anytime. So, for noticeboards, the ideal report is: sentence-or-two, diff; sentence-or-two, diff; etc. El_C 11:02, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Past conflicts
Hello Giovanni, I have been most impressed with the level-headed manner in which you have been able to continue to interact with Raggz, and I hope that you are able to step back from your previous conflict with John Smith (although it appears to have been a very contentious relationship) to continue to focus your comments on the talk:allegations of state terrorism commited by the US page to specifics about the content of the article in question and do not feed the trolls by delving into past conflicts. This may be a very difficult thing that I am asking because John appears to know how to press your buttons, but I hope that you are able to step above his actions. TheRedPenOfDoom (talk) 12:22, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, you are right, of course. I'll take the high road and refuse to take the bait. :)Giovanni33 (talk) 21:13, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Thanks
Hi Giovanni, thanks for the barnstar and kind note on my talk page. I'm not really interested in adminship at this time (I need to be contributing here less, not more, unfortunately) but appreciate the complement. Maybe some day but not anytime soon I think. I also wanted to let you know that I noticed John Smith's filed a report about you at the Arbitration Enforcement Board for 1RR violation. He neglected to notify you (though I would not necessarily read anything into that) so I figured I'd drop you a note. I'm also going to leave a comment over there.--Bigtimepeace | talk | contribs 23:23, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks, I had no idea. But I went there and left a note in my defense, too (and edit conflicted with your note). Its unfortunate that JohnSmiths finds it worth his time to constantly try to get me in some kind of trouble, esp. over something as meaningless as this that does nothing but further bad will. Very petty.Giovanni33 (talk) 23:57, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
- I left a note with John on his talk page as well. You might be blocked because I think that can be construed as technically a violation, but it was quite silly to report it days after the fact. I would enjoin you though to be very careful with your reverting. For example that second edit really was not that important and easily could have waited a couple more days, or you could have discussed it on talk and someone else might have taken up your cause (maybe you did - I don't even remember). Because you have a pretty bad track record on 3RR and are under an ArbCom restriction, admins are probably not going to look kindly on any editing that even brushes up against the 1RR border. That doesn't mean John should have reported you, however it is your responsibility to scrupulously avoid reverting more than once a week so there is no basis for a report in the first place.
- I really think you and John need to just try to avoid each other completely and not try to get one another in trouble at all (you reported John to ANI a few days ago which was definitely ill-advised I think since nothing good could have come of it and it basically just resulted in John reporting you to an admin and then both of you being warned by said admin). Regardless of the specifics of whatever is going on now or in the future, any time this dispute gets brought up on ANI or to admins or whatever both of you end up looking bad (I know the details of your past dispute and even I don't really care about the specifics this time around - instead one just gets a general impression of being annoyed). I'm wondering if it would be possible for the two of you to come to some sort of agreement where you permanently disengage from one another. Work on different articles, or overlap on some articles but don't interact with one another, etc. If you would be interested in something like that maybe myself or some other third party could try to help broker an informal agreement that would avoid taking this thing back to ArbCom. Let me know what you think and then maybe I can ask John about it and see how he feels.--Bigtimepeace | talk | contribs 00:11, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
- I agree, and I would certainly support such a sensible proposition, which I would think would come naturally by simply exercising common sense judgment, i.e. you not follow around an editor you constantly bicker with, but do the very opposite, avoid, and disengage. That is why I had such a problem with JohnSmith showing up on the Allegations page only to start the usual bickering (whatever his intentions were, this choice was poor judgment). I asked him several times why he was doing that and he just continued to ignore that point, and argue. If something can be put in placed formally that codified this commons sense practice, I'd be all for it. Thanks.Giovanni33 (talk) 00:24, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
- I'm going to work something up on my talk page and maybe we can discuss it there.--Bigtimepeace | talk | contribs 00:29, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
- I've started something on my talk page and am inviting you and John over there to discuss further. Let's see what happens.--Bigtimepeace | talk | contribs 00:48, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
- I'm going to work something up on my talk page and maybe we can discuss it there.--Bigtimepeace | talk | contribs 00:29, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
Yah -- word on the barnstar. It's my first, and much appreciated. I've never gone in for the "awards and councils" thing (neither in real-life nor here), so honestly i'm not sure what to do with it -- post it on my user page? I think that's probably what i'll do, and it brings a smile to me, now, seeing that i have one to match the forty- or fifty-odd posted on other user-pages. Thanks again -- Stone put to sky (talk) 08:17, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
Negotiatin'
Hi Gio, I did not edit yesterday but I've continued the discussion with a new thread on my talk page so take a look when you get a chance.--Bigtimepeace | talk | contribs 21:42, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
Wikistalking
Read Wikipedia:Harassment. If you continue to wikistalk me, this will be reported.Ultramarine (talk) 10:43, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Big Quote
Regarding your first quote from Jimbo Wales about every person on the planet etc. it is well to remember that the majority of people on Earth have never made a telephone call. SmokeyTheCat •TALK• 13:43, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
- True, and yes, we should keep in mind the upside down nature of the world economic arrangements, which cry out for revolution.Giovanni33 (talk) 03:52, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
Your recent edits
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