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::: Make suggestions, here or in the nomination. I was told that I was a week late already, so couldn't think for too long ;) --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 13:15, 5 October 2019 (UTC) |
::: Make suggestions, here or in the nomination. I was told that I was a week late already, so couldn't think for too long ;) --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 13:15, 5 October 2019 (UTC) |
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DYK for Carsten Koch (musician)
On 1 January 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Carsten Koch (musician), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Carsten Koch conducted all Beethoven symphonies at the historic Unionskirche, and shared Bach's Christmas Oratorio there in an ecumenical project (performance pictured)? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Carsten Koch (musician). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Carsten Koch (musician)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
— Maile (talk) 00:01, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
Bach cantata notation
thanks for correcting me on my edit to the new year cantata article, however now seems that https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bach-Werke-Verzeichnis (and other articles of works with both notations) needs a clarification on that same point. 94.253.248.92 (talk) 09:33, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
- Go ahead, do it, wherever you read that the traditional BWV numbers are of the past. I am busy, so can't help, sorry. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:35, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
- Herz und Mund und Tat und Leben, BWV 147a - when I see it in articles I watch I correct it. Today, I have several more urgent things to do ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:59, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
2019
...Als festlich hoher Gruß, dem Morgen zugebracht! Many thanks and very best wishes to you too. I am still stuck in the 16th and 17th centuries. The Belcea played the Cantabile from op. 130 wonderfully at the Wigmore Hall and I haven't quite shaken off the reverie yet. Why should I want to? Eebahgum (talk) 21:41, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
- Indeed ;) - Monteverdi for us next, - come 1 September, you'll like it! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:44, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
Thanks and congratulations
Dear Gerda
Thank you for your New Year greeting, and how appropriate to have Die Zeit, die Tag und Jahre macht as the featured article. Your contributions here are priceless.
best wishes, --Michael Goodyear ✐ ✉ 22:46, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you, so are yours, regarding Hannah Arendt. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:49, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
DYK for Raymond Arritt
PanydThe muffin is not subtle 00:01, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you for the good news, Panyd, and good to see your name again. I wanted this hook for 1 January, including its good resolutions, but then wasn't sad about having our music pictured instead. Not too late for resolutions, New Year or not. DYK that he probably kept me on Wikipedia, by the line - which brought him to my attention - that I added to my editnotice, in fond memory? Happy New Year! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:11, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for the link. Happy New Year to you too.Thoughtfortheday (talk) 15:45, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
- Arritt had a great beard and a wonderful smile. I'm sure I would have liked him. Finetooth (talk) 18:24, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
- So am I. I forgot to mention that he wrote the ultimate guide to arbitration, - if only I had known that ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:33, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you for the Happy New Years card! Felt good to get stuck in on DYK again and I loved the quote! PanydThe muffin is not subtle 10:31, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
- So am I. I forgot to mention that he wrote the ultimate guide to arbitration, - if only I had known that ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:33, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
Schicchi
I didn't know other Wikipedias were not trusted sources since I've seen references for using translated materials. More interesting to me is the difference between the two Schicchi images: same costume, but one is sly and sleek, the other cheerfully spry and clownish. Thank you anyway. Cheers! Shir-El too 20:40, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
PS as you love music, suggest you look up "BIRD SONG OPERA" - and have a Good Year! Shir-El too 20:43, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
- Shir-El too, translating is fine, but it needs references. Translate an article without coverting them to inline citations, and you get into trouble, - just ask LouisAlain. The police is more after new articles than established ones, but Gianni Schicchi is a featured article = highest quality class. The Italian Wikipedia should have an independent source that can be used, instead of citing only that Wikipedia. And if not, you can hopefully find one ;) - Thank you for the bird song opera! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:41, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
- Adding: the topic "infobox" is hot, - I won't know why. I try to stay away, and recommend to avoid discussions. You will hear the same things again and again. My thoughts were written in 2013: help those who don't read English so well, are vision-impaired, need a certain information fast, - it doesn't hurt. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:31, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
Hello
Hi Gerda. It's me really, alt account, don't ask! Whilst trying and slightly-failing to take a break I have done one good thing on-wiki – please see a lovely new photo of Emanuel Hurwitz that I just added a day or two back. Well when I say new
, I mean yes obviously Manny died 12+ years ago so new to the article! But I do feel it's nice to have. It's not even a good photo technically but I do like what it captures. Thanks for the messages – I have emailed you in Real Life or what I like to think of as somewhat related thereto. Cheers DBaK-photo (talk) 21:37, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for sharing. Reminds me of my earliest days on Wikipedia, when I filled the red link for a friend whose father was a member of the Melos Ensemble, and then created some more about other members, receiving nice comments from their relatives (the violist and an oboist). Hurwitz, however, had an article already, so I didn't touch that much. Today I'm expanding a hymn, and what do I read in one of promising sources? My older version of the article ;) - It's in honour of my dad for whose funeral we sang it, as for weddings in the family. He died some 15 January, DYK? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:53, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
DYK for Fallt mit Danken, fallt mit Loben, BWV 248 IV
On 23 January 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Fallt mit Danken, fallt mit Loben, BWV 248 IV, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Fallt mit Danken, fallt mit Loben (Fall with thanks, fall with praise), Part IV of Bach's Christmas Oratorio for New Year's Day 1735, celebrates the naming of Jesus? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Fallt mit Danken, fallt mit Loben, BWV 248 IV. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Fallt mit Danken, fallt mit Loben, BWV 248 IV), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
PanydThe muffin is not subtle 00:01, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
DYK for Werner Bardenhewer
On 30 January 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Werner Bardenhewer, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that a clinic in Mopti, Mali, is named after Werner Bardenhewer, born 90 years ago today, who was for decades priest of St. Bonifatius, Wiesbaden, and then founded a charity group? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Werner Bardenhewer. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Werner Bardenhewer), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
PanydThe muffin is not subtle 00:02, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
Günter Krämer
Bravo for your interventions on this one but don't put yourself in harms way. There are some happy triggers around here. I'm sorry to cause you so many troubles. LouisAlain (talk) 21:04, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
- That last one wasn't caused by you, but someone who didn't look for a moment at the content, only at "no reference". You could do me a favour: when you see an article with all these details a loving fan thinks are neccessary, summarize brutally, and only what can be sourced, for a first step. Ute Vinzing was the first example, and Krämer will not be the last. - I've been through the hell of arbitration enforcement, nothing can frighten me any more. Did you know that Martin just sat his last block out, so did Joe with his last ban, - only I will not understand what good it should do to block and ban content editors. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:29, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
- It has a whiff of Überwachen und Strafen in it. LouisAlain (talk) 04:55, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
- ... and the problem is that it's people who should be equal and colleages who do it. When missing any references, instead of writing a note, they could simply find and add one. Too practical? Less feeling of superiority? "Baking a cake is an act of love" - adding a ref the same. Do it often! (I mean everybody reading this, please.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:40, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
200 DYK nominations
The 200 DYK Nomination Medal | ||
It is my pleasure to recognize the more than 200 articles you have nominated for DYK. These, and your own articles, have helped to build Wikipedia's music pages into a formidable resource. Keep up the great work! Yoninah (talk) 00:08, 20 February 2019 (UTC) |
- Thank you! Collaboration is the secret for success here, and I am happy that more of my 2019 topics were done with others, such as opera singers with LouisAlain, and the psalms with you, among many others. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:24, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
- A well deserved award. I am among those who find your well written DYK articles on music interesting and informative. I see you've also recently helped to bring three articles to GA and one to FA. Precious work indeed. And your enthusiasm never seems to wane.--Ipigott (talk) 10:41, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you! I have several GA noms open, - if anybody looking wants to review ;) - My enthusiasm for music is great, and so many pieces not covered, - no end in sight. Today's plan: The Deer's Cry (Pärt). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:49, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
- A well deserved award. I am among those who find your well written DYK articles on music interesting and informative. I see you've also recently helped to bring three articles to GA and one to FA. Precious work indeed. And your enthusiasm never seems to wane.--Ipigott (talk) 10:41, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
Lasting Impact
Gerda, I was reminded tonight of your giving me a Precious and it remains perhaps the nicest and most meaningful thing someone has done for me on Wikipedia. I have my Wiki friends who are great and who I get support an encouragement from but to have a "stranger" take the time to really look into me as an editor and capture the good I try to do here meant, and means a lot. I know I thanked you at the time but wanted you to also be thanked for the last impact. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 02:57, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
- Barkeep49, thank you for taking the time to come here and say that, blushing ;) - "encouragement" is among my favourite words --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:21, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
- Eddie, I suggest PrimeHunter for tomorrow - 10 y. I'd like to use this anchor, to archive the long thread above. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:17, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
- Gerda Arendt, sure-- i can probably do it if you like... Eddie891 Talk Work 23:19, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
- I like ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:22, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
- perhaps MrLinkinPark333 soon Eddie891 Talk Work 00:39, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
- for women writers user:Victuallers ( 1770 pages, many about women) Eddie891 Talk Work 00:43, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
- V first, thought he had it long ago, my mistake. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:46, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
- for women writers user:Victuallers ( 1770 pages, many about women) Eddie891 Talk Work 00:43, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
- perhaps MrLinkinPark333 soon Eddie891 Talk Work 00:39, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
- I like ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:22, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
- Gerda Arendt, sure-- i can probably do it if you like... Eddie891 Talk Work 23:19, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
Jacques Loussier
Ach, I hadn't realised Jacques Loussier has recently died (I saw a comment you left elsewhere). I had the pleasure of attending a concert by the Jacques Loussier Trio at the Sheldonian in Oxford many years ago. I note our Wikipedia article says "The group was commercially successful but less popular with critics and jazz purists" - how I hate critics and purists! Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 11:43, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
- I heard the first trio, and the second twice, last time with the Dave Brubeck quartet on one stage, - quite a night! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:41, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
- Wow, yes, that would have been special! It was the second trio I heard - I would have liked to have seen the first. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 11:54, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
DYK for Jörg Streli
On 23 March 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Jörg Streli, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that architect Jörg Streli and his two colleagues designed the Sankt-Margarethen-Kapelle (pictured) in Tyrol, which rises like a tower on a circular floor? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Jörg Streli. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Jörg Streli), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
— Amakuru (talk) 00:01, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
Thank you
Thank you so much, Gerda, for helping push Did you know nominations/Cynthia García Coll to the finish line. I really appreciate the help. 28bytes (talk) 15:37, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
- You are most welcome! Overdue, like the 3 chansons which were supposed to appear on Ravel's birthday, 7 March. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:41, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
- 28bytes, nice to have here on the Main page togerther with my Angels (below)! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:55, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
"Was ist der Tod-- ein Übergang zur Ruh'!"
Now: Ruth-Margret Pütz.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmCl6VptCs0&t=6655s
HandsomeMrToad (talk) 04:54, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
- Changing plans again, hear her voice now! - Und dann an deiner Seite ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:11, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
A surreal barnstar for you!
The Surreal Barnstar | ||
Gerda Arendt, this barnstar is for those who add "special flavor" to the community, and I have no doubt you are one who exemplifies this trait. Thank you for your precious awards, and your hard work at their yearly anniversaries. Not to mention your DYKs and other article improvements. This is merely a little appreciation. starship.paint ~ KO 10:19, 17 April 2019 (UTC) |
That is lovely, thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:21, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
- You're welcome, Gerda. How's it going for you recently? :) starship.paint ~ KO 10:25, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
- Look above, most intense week of the year, and a funeral to come. On Wikipedia: Many GA-noms waiting for a review, a discussion about "interesting to the general reader" on WP:DYK, another one there about trying to get a kitsch (for me at least) image, coming with a little article to which it has no connection, to the Main page for Easter, a deletion request for an image showing the one to be buried because art is hanging on the walls in the room, translated articles by a friend sent to draft because they don't follow our referencing guidelines yet, not to speak about the topic I try hard to avoid ;) - But on the positive side: good collaborations, nice DYKs, and even a GA - about an Advent song, - patience is really helpful. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:38, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
- Wow all really that seems like a lot. Congrats and well done on the GA, and full support for your upcoming work Gerda! :) starship.paint ~ KO 11:09, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
- And how about you? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:12, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
- Look above, most intense week of the year, and a funeral to come. On Wikipedia: Many GA-noms waiting for a review, a discussion about "interesting to the general reader" on WP:DYK, another one there about trying to get a kitsch (for me at least) image, coming with a little article to which it has no connection, to the Main page for Easter, a deletion request for an image showing the one to be buried because art is hanging on the walls in the room, translated articles by a friend sent to draft because they don't follow our referencing guidelines yet, not to speak about the topic I try hard to avoid ;) - But on the positive side: good collaborations, nice DYKs, and even a GA - about an Advent song, - patience is really helpful. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:38, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
200,000
Now that's a milestone! Jmar67 (talk) 12:45, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
- I wouldn't have noticed, thank you ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:35, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
- Gerda Arendt, very cool! --valereee (talk) 16:40, 25 April 2019 (UTC)
DYK for Psalm 70
On 6 May 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Psalm 70, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Monteverdi set the beginning of Psalm 70, traditionally opening vespers (pictured), in his Vespro della Beata Vergine as a brilliant "call to attention"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Psalm 70. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Psalm 70), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
— Amakuru (talk) 00:01, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
Thanks!
Thanks Gerda! You are too kind. Gosh - I was younger and perhaps slightly less D, B and K then ... tsk. With all good wishes DBaK (talk) 21:18, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
- I though of you today. Went to an exhibition vernissage, there was also music, and they played - can you guess? - this. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:32, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
DS Alert
This is a standard message to notify contributors about an administrative ruling in effect. It does not imply that there are any issues with your contributions to date.
You have shown interest in discussions about infoboxes and to edits adding, deleting, collapsing, or removing verifiable information from infoboxes. Due to past disruption in this topic area, a more stringent set of rules called discretionary sanctions is in effect. Any administrator may impose sanctions on editors who do not strictly follow Wikipedia's policies, or the page-specific restrictions, when making edits related to the topic.
For additional information, please see the guidance on discretionary sanctions and the Arbitration Committee's decision here. If you have any questions, or any doubts regarding what edits are appropriate, you are welcome to discuss them with me or any other editor.
Template:Z33 The boilerplate is necessary because you haven't had a notificaton since March 2018. However, it's a matter of public record that you have been sanctioned several times over the subject of infoboxes and have had difficulty letting go. I'm not leaving this message here because I want to stir the pot or cause rancour - not at all - in fact I've been mulling over whether to drop this here pretty much since yesterday evening. However, I think I'm now at the point where I don't nip this in the bud, one of you or Cassianto (who FWIW has already been Arbcom sanctioned and hence does not need an alert) is going to end up on a Dramaboard somewhere with all sorts of yelling and shouting. I'll repeat what I said on my talk yesterday, "Gerda is here to improve the encyclopedia and it shows with the numerous DYKs that turn up on the main page. I release she does inadvertently irritate people, but - heck - so do I." Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 16:07, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
- Kafka is never far when infoboxes are debated ;) - lol --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:22, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
A kitten for you!
I present you with the great honour of... a kitten!
El_C 17:30, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
- Love it ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:23, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
Another kitten for you!
And another one from me.
Voceditenore (talk) 19:47, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you, Voce, lovely! Just returning from Rodelinda, with Lucy Crowe and Andreas Scholl singing that unearthly duet, - and happy I don't have to fill red links, but took care of their articles long ago, the latter with help from Eric Corbett, - that long ago. Other: Katharina Magiera, Martin Mitterutzner, Jakub Józef Orliński and Božidar Smiljanić (bass-baritone), Andrea Marcon conducting, staged (for Madrid, Lyon, Frankfurt, Amsterdam next) Claus Guth. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:34, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
- ps: kitten-givers, would you donate one to Fylbecatulous, as her daughter requested? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:15, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
- Done. I hope her daughter likes it, even though I did stray away from domestic kitties. El_C 17:57, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
- adorable! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:03, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
- Done. I hope her daughter likes it, even though I did stray away from domestic kitties. El_C 17:57, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
- Ritchie, Cassianto, how about you passing a cat to her? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:22, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
- If you mean real cats, my last one (that sits on my talk page) died six years ago. I wrote Pink cat with Fylbecatulous in mind, I can't believe she's no longer with us. :-( Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 23:13, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
- Ritchie, I mean a cat on her talk, as Begoon understood. Thank you for the Pink cat! - Did you see Kieth Engen? Created by LouisAlain, improved by me (the normal team work), but also be Grimes2, Kablammo and Voce. - that's how I love editing! Always listen to Voce, DYK? Especially when she says Yay! - Hook suggestion wanted. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:34, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
- Well, I was truly shocked and saddened. en.wiki isn't the only place I knew her - she was a deeply thoughtful and genuine character with a kind and occasionally, pleasantly cutting sense of humour. I'll miss her. -- Begoon 05:53, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
- Ritchie, I mean a cat on her talk, as Begoon understood. Thank you for the Pink cat! - Did you see Kieth Engen? Created by LouisAlain, improved by me (the normal team work), but also be Grimes2, Kablammo and Voce. - that's how I love editing! Always listen to Voce, DYK? Especially when she says Yay! - Hook suggestion wanted. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:34, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
- If you mean real cats, my last one (that sits on my talk page) died six years ago. I wrote Pink cat with Fylbecatulous in mind, I can't believe she's no longer with us. :-( Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 23:13, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
- Gerda, if you need a hook for Engen, I've added more material which could work. Apart from his pop career as "Stan Oliver", there's how his height got him his first job at the Bavarian State Opera. Voceditenore (talk) 13:45, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for the offer! Let's do it this way: I make a proposal, and you add ALTs. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:57, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
- In real life, I knew a young man who after school in Germany went to see the world, which took the unusually tall slim person to a beach in China, where a film producer saw him and offered him a role as an American soldier in a movie, which was delayed because of political controversy, so the young man got to know the producer's daughter better, - he wrote home that he needed papers to get married. 2 children. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:01, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for the offer! Let's do it this way: I make a proposal, and you add ALTs. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:57, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
- I read that and thought of Simon Bates' "Our Tune". Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:13, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
- I prefer "our tune" much to the DS which I'll stubbornly not archive until the year ends. DYK that all I did in the field in 2019 was one comment in a RfC? The misunderstanding with Cassianto (resolved) wasn't even about the dreaded topic, but my thank-you click for an edit that seemed unrelated, at least to me. I offered help with his DYK in good faith, and couldn't help remembering this (but would not have mentioned it in the DYK process had it happened). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:30, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
- My litmus test to how well I'm going to get on with an editor is to check their last 100 mainspace contributions, paying attention to edit summaries and how far back they go. Somebody with manual edit summaries, doing large additions, that goes back about 48 hours is great. Somebody with none, and mainspace edits going back a year; probably somebody I'm going to have "discussions" with. And for reference, mine (29 May) yours (1 June), Cassianto (9 May) and The Duke of Nonsense (4 September 2018). Spot the odd one out. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:14, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
- I don't have to, I hope. - #1: I try to get along with every editor. (Admittedly not all try the same with me. One requested me to never thank them by click, for example.) #2: When I thank it's for one edit (only), not an attitude, nor an editor's behaviour in general. #3: I sometimes wish I could retract a thank-you-click, but - like edit summaries - they stay. This was one of them, even before "abuse" and "stir shit" appeared on my talk, and a friend who questioned that was lectured about assumptions on someone's education. - I don't stir shit, period. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:25, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
- Trying to get along illustrated: in 2013, in the middle of ARBINFOBOX, I had a nice discussion on an article talk page with the two major users "on the other side" of that case, and still wonder why the arbs didn't say: fine, we see that you can manage to get along, go in peace. Why? Warum? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:00, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
- My litmus test to how well I'm going to get on with an editor is to check their last 100 mainspace contributions, paying attention to edit summaries and how far back they go. Somebody with manual edit summaries, doing large additions, that goes back about 48 hours is great. Somebody with none, and mainspace edits going back a year; probably somebody I'm going to have "discussions" with. And for reference, mine (29 May) yours (1 June), Cassianto (9 May) and The Duke of Nonsense (4 September 2018). Spot the odd one out. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:14, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
- I prefer "our tune" much to the DS which I'll stubbornly not archive until the year ends. DYK that all I did in the field in 2019 was one comment in a RfC? The misunderstanding with Cassianto (resolved) wasn't even about the dreaded topic, but my thank-you click for an edit that seemed unrelated, at least to me. I offered help with his DYK in good faith, and couldn't help remembering this (but would not have mentioned it in the DYK process had it happened). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:30, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
- I read that and thought of Simon Bates' "Our Tune". Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:13, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
Just popping in to say...
Hi Gerda! I hope you're well. I wanted to let you know that I'm feeling much, much better these days. Your continued support did not go unnoticed. I really can't thank you enough. x nagualdesign 20:06, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
- that's great news, - after too many I had to pass Die Fliege in just the last few weeks! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:37, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
- ... and today --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:17, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
TFA
Franz Kafka (3 July 1883 – 3 June 1924) was a German-speaking Bohemian Jewish novelist and short-story writer, widely regarded as one of the major figures of 20th-century literature.
His work, which fuses elements of realism and the fantastic, typically features isolated protagonists facing what are now called "Kafkaesque" circumstances: bizarre or surrealistic predicaments complicated by incomprehensible bureaucracy. He explores themes of alienation, existential anxiety, guilt, and absurdity.
His best-known works include Die Verwandlung, Der Process, and Das Schloss.
Few of Kafka's works were published during his lifetime, and those that were received little public attention. In his will, he instructed his friend Max Brod to destroy his unfinished works, including three of his novels, but Brod ignored these instructions.
Kafka's work has influenced a vast range of writers, critics, artists, and philosophers during the 20th and 21st centuries. (3 July 2019)
Vandalism lottery?
Franz Kafka and the The Trial so far today! El_C 17:43, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
- Every TFA is a trial in terms of vandalism, it was comparatively mild (also compared to what I remember from the first round in 2013) until I left home for a lovely evening in a winery. Thank you, El_C and all who helped. Lovely balloons, hope PumpkinSky will see them, - the article was his idea. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:44, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
kakaesque
No running away from this typo! [1] Much of the discussion on Wikipedia is indeed kakaesque. Jehochman Talk 11:18, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
- yes, I agree, dada also comes to mind - I linked to the discussion, btw, on my user page and for Snow Rise who tried to help four years ago, but moar patience is needed ;) - "hope is precious ..." --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:40, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Teamwork Barnstar | |
Dear Gerda,
Thank you very much working on my article, which is now accepted as a B-CLASS!! (I thought it will be rejected, this is why i add emphasis) Because if you weren't there, the article would have nearly no chance, to thank you i award you this barnstar! Enivak (talk) 09:52, 20 July 2019 (UTC) |
Thank you, lovely, both the class and the barnstar. When you have a new project please just list it on your user page which I watch. - Please read today's DYK (Did you know ...?) Rolf Riehm, a composer whom I met last year (and then postponed writing the article to match his birthday, and then a dear frien LouisAlain began, and we were on time nominating, but the process took too long ...). - You will meet the DYK process because I'm going to nominate your sonata also, naturally ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:07, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
ITN recognition for Brigitte Kronauer
On 26 July 2019, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Brigitte Kronauer, which you nominated and updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page.
Mjroots (talk) 07:32, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
Kronauer, Hamm, Bach
Belated but heartfelt thanks for helping make two sublime Sprachkünstler*innen appear on the main page. I will miss them both.
Recently I read about this unusual exhibition. I wondered whether you were aware of it (the answer is probably yes). I live 500km away from Eisenach, but you might be closer ... Anyway, just felt like dropping a message and a thank-you for all the hard work you put in improving the encyclopaedia. ---Sluzzelin talk 23:23, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you, feel understood! Look at the top, take some flowers, build more bridges, - celebrating the centenary of a great person. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:44, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
- Sluzzelin, that exhibition looks interesting, thank you. Also some 100 km away, - where we sing Immortal Bach ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:32, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
Woohooo
- Thank you for the news, Mjs1991, happy - wundersam - feeling just a bit much older ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:34, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
Template:Did you know nominations/Curzon Street Baroque
Gerda, if you are happy the is GTG, please confirm there. It's looking a bit messy at the moment, & may be unclear to promoters. Thanks! Also, happy birthday! Johnbod (talk) 16:07, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
Invitation to join the Ten Year Society
Dear Gerda Arendt,
I'd like to extend a cordial invitation to you to join the Ten Year Society, an informal group for editors who've been participating in the Wikipedia project for ten years or more.
Best regards, Chris Troutman (talk) 16:50, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you, accepted. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:23, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
Happy tenth anniversary!
The Tireless Contributor Barnstar | ||
Congratulations on your ten years as an editor, and thank you for your hard and precious work all over the place! Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:22, 3 August 2019 (UTC) |
Trees
My aspens dear, whose airy cages quelled,
Quelled or quenched in leaves the leaping sun,
All felled, felled, are all felled;
Of a fresh and following folded rank
Not spared, not one
That dandled a sandalled
Shadow that swam or sank
On meadow and river and wind-wandering weed-winding bank.
O if we but knew what we do
When we delve or hew –
Hack and rack the growing green!
Since country is so tender
To touch, her being so slender,
That, like this sleek and seeing ball
But a prick will make no eye at all,
Where we, even where we mean
To mend her we end her,
When we hew or delve:
After-comers cannot guess the beauty been.
Ten or twelve, only ten or twelve
Strokes of havoc unselve
The sweet especial scene,
Rural scene, a rural scene,
Sweet especial rural scene.
- Thank you, tree lover, and sending a tree pic I love in reply. More trees under "blushing". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:45, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
- understand, precious, - Ave Maria, - her big feast 15 August, working hard on the vespers, with some success, see below, - thank you Rambling Man. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:10, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
- re: [exits to the sound of sirens]: Did you know that I wrote Sirens – Images of Desire and of Destruction. Consider it dedicated to you ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:43, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you, Gerda. How perfectly appropriate! I would give it a listen but, alas, my ears are plugged with beeswax. —Odysseus Don't tell Fram!
WikiProject Climate change
Greetings Gerda! In case you were not aware, some eds have recently tried recharing the old climate change task force, and are converting it to standalone WikiProject. If that interests you, please join us at WP:WikiProject Climate change. We're still in the nuts and bolts start up phase, figuring out how best to harness categories and templates etc. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 12:11, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you for the invitation, I'll watch and see what I can do. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:13, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
Smiles
I absolutely LOVE that fly gif. (Die Fliege) I was surprised when I found it was you who used it. (I forget where now, Drmies, Floq, or Richie I think). I actually smacked my screen thinking it was real. Then ...... I REALLY laughed. Thanks for the smiles - have a great day Gerda. — Ched : ? — 11:27, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
- It's by nagualdesign who then also left us but made a note further up about feeling better. Thank you for adding our friend who died, - how could I miss that. Die Fliege is a short version for the flaming image on the page you once started, with a poem by Poeticbent (letting go of the past) wo then also left us. Feel free applying Die Fliege to the pages of those missed and alive. - I am busy writing a FAC ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:41, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
- Fantastic - well, best of luck with that. :-) — Ched : ? — 12:05, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
- Look around. The FAC is marked by the green GA symbol on top, look for "introduction" to listen in a bit, - the concert with Simon Rattle will be available for free viewing 2 days from mow (I sat right behind one of the cameras), and did you see Raymond's Rules? Matching "Smiles". I like your sig popping up ;) - Did you know that I am in the process of writing the saga of our case, bit by bit, and just remembered Dreadstar leaving forever? - Happy days! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:48, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
- Fantastic - well, best of luck with that. :-) — Ched : ? — 12:05, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
A portal barnstar for you!
The Portal Barnstar | ||
The Portal Barnstar is awarded to Wikipedians who have made significant contributions to topic portals. I had no idea that you have been manually updating and changing entries at Portal:Germany/Did you know on such a regular, long ongoing basis. Seriously, you've been doing this every month for years, and this is greatly appreciated. Your dedication to keeping the Portal:Germany up-to-date with new entries is very commendable. North America1000 01:11, 17 August 2019 (UTC) |
- Seriously, I am glad about the recognition! The gnome icon is my only top icon, and it feels good when gnomish work is recognized, - thank you! I also keep the archives of project Opera, btw. That's a great project, everybody, in case you don't know. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:38, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
- Well, again, it is appreciated. I have edited a great deal of portal content through the years, and lately I've picked up. One reason is that the creation of many automated portals wound up having people substitute some of that automation in existing portals in ways that broke them, such as removing the content on the main portal page transcluded from various subpages, etc. Another issue is the deletion of many portals that were not automated. I understand why many of these older portals are being deleted, but I feel that some, such as the Germany portal, have merit, and a place on Wikipedia. North America1000 06:58, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
- I agree. I hated when the automatism picked 1/8 of DYK for Germany related to Hitler, every day. Some things are better manually ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:27, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
- Well, again, it is appreciated. I have edited a great deal of portal content through the years, and lately I've picked up. One reason is that the creation of many automated portals wound up having people substitute some of that automation in existing portals in ways that broke them, such as removing the content on the main portal page transcluded from various subpages, etc. Another issue is the deletion of many portals that were not automated. I understand why many of these older portals are being deleted, but I feel that some, such as the Germany portal, have merit, and a place on Wikipedia. North America1000 06:58, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
- Well, I'm not sure what else to say. Ha ha, actually... Keep up the good work, there and elsewhere. Of course, I've seen you around all over the place, particularly at WP:DYKNOM when I was more active there a while back. For the Germany portal, your work there alone keeping DYK content fresh is way above and beyond what most do. Let me know if you'd like to collaborate on portals, music articles, other content, etc. You've been a great contributor for so long, I feel that you've embodied what Wikipedia should be about. North America1000 11:25, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you. I have a peer review open, for a start to collaboration ;) - look for the little green GA symbol on top of the page. - This thread deserves to go to "blushing", also there ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:31, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
- Well, I'm not sure what else to say. Ha ha, actually... Keep up the good work, there and elsewhere. Of course, I've seen you around all over the place, particularly at WP:DYKNOM when I was more active there a while back. For the Germany portal, your work there alone keeping DYK content fresh is way above and beyond what most do. Let me know if you'd like to collaborate on portals, music articles, other content, etc. You've been a great contributor for so long, I feel that you've embodied what Wikipedia should be about. North America1000 11:25, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
DYK for Hans-Georg Münzberg
On 26 August 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Hans-Georg Münzberg, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Hans-Georg Münzberg continued to work on the development of the Snecma Atar engine in France despite being a professor at the Technical University of Berlin? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Hans-Georg Münzberg. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Hans-Georg Münzberg), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
— Maile (talk) 12:01, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
Can improvisational music be played at a most logical state?
Hi Gerda: I'd like to take up a few minutes of your time. This is also a bit in-depth, but bear with me. Check out this space jam from the Dead, Autzen Stadium, Eugene, Oregon, 6-23-90. Particularly, check out the part from 4:10 to around 6:00, and a bit thereafter.
Note the rather slow, laid back, staid tempo being used, a controlled tempo within the context of syncopation and improvisation. Also, there's a framework to the music, and the song is obviously not wholly free-form, yet there's plenty of improvisation in it. The dynamics are mostly staid, although there are some crescendos here and there within the jam/song, as well as subtle tempo changes that diverge, and then go back, to the overall tempo in this version of the song played.
Now, specifically within the context of that jam from 4:10 to 6:00, check out the part from around 5:30 to 5:38, building tension, ellipsing with a high note by Garcia. The most important part is the release after the buildup of the tension, at the musical segue specifically from 5:38 to 5:50, for several reasons. It is rather sublime, like it's absolutely logical, and is the most logical manner that this could have been played notewise by Garcia as well as by the rest of the band at the time, as though if it could only be played that way at that time, because anything else would be less logical, this being despite the fact that overall, the jam is rather improvisational in nature. Essentially, pure logic. Also note the tempo increasing here as well, within the context of the shifting song.
Specifically, regarding that 12-second segue from 5:38 to 5:50, how can this be described in musical terms? Is this an example of exacting logic being used on-the-spot within the context of improvisational music? Could this 12-second portion of the song have potentially been played in a more logical manner. It doesn't seem so. The counterpoint seems spot-on from all angles, including Garcia counterpointing himself, as well as the band counterpointing each-other as well as counterpointing Garcia counterpointing himself. Weir (the rhythm guitarist) and Lesh (bass player) are also counterpointing themselves while counterpointing each-other and the rest of the band (keys, drummers), counterpointing the overall direction the jam is going in, as well as also counterpointing Garcia's lead, all simultaneously. Great stuff.
This is a curiousity, because people don't talk about these things much, and I'm well aware the you have a strong background in music.
Can improvisational music be played from a musical logic that cannot be improved upon? The idea is that there is a most logical way of playing, even in improvisational music, in terms of note choice, syncopation, dynamics, counterpoint and tempo, and anything else is essentially less logical.
So, am I onto something? If so, what's it all about? Conversely, I could be entirely wrong. Maybe it's just me.
Since you're an accomplished music editor and are also involved in music, I am interested in your ideas about these ideas. Searching for the sound, North America1000 13:01, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
- I'm busy until September 5. Looks interesting. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:55, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
- North America: I had no time to listen yet, and Monteverdi's music is still present in my head ;) - I had time to read, and am not surprised, - improvisation is based a lot on "logical" development in sequences and counterpoint, - a friend who is a great improviser explained that if you make a mistake in a theme, you best expand on that new theme ;) - It's a miracle to me, and the more so when a group does it! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:02, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for the reply. You're the most educated regarding music I've come across on Wikipedia, so I bothered you specifically. Give the small portion a listen at your leisure. Of course, I went off on a most minute tangent in my post above, but hey, why not? Guess I'll go listen to some free jazz now. North America1000 09:35, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
- I hope I'll get their, it sounds really interesting! - Going to listen to Rossini's Otello. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:41, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
- All you really have to listen to is the 12-second segue from 5:38 to 5:50. This overall version of the song itself is not particularly my favorite, but check out that 12-second segue. North America1000 11:28, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
- Yes. But, instead, al day yesterday (at least that is how it felt) I frantically tried to improve Clara Schumann for today's bicentenary, falling asleep before doing what I wanted to. This morning I noticed that my friend LouisAlain is somehow in the Fram mess, - I'd need peace of mind and don't give up hope that I'll get there! There's a lot of real life going on all wekkend, then travel ... - patience please. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:36, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
- No problemo. Patience is a virtue! North America1000 10:44, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
- Your response regarding improv in general is enough. I already get it anyway! Archive at will. North America1000 17:50, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
- Order ~ Chaos → Chaos ~ Order → Outro ~ fin. North America1000 17:58, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
- Yes. But, instead, al day yesterday (at least that is how it felt) I frantically tried to improve Clara Schumann for today's bicentenary, falling asleep before doing what I wanted to. This morning I noticed that my friend LouisAlain is somehow in the Fram mess, - I'd need peace of mind and don't give up hope that I'll get there! There's a lot of real life going on all wekkend, then travel ... - patience please. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:36, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
- All you really have to listen to is the 12-second segue from 5:38 to 5:50. This overall version of the song itself is not particularly my favorite, but check out that 12-second segue. North America1000 11:28, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
- I hope I'll get their, it sounds really interesting! - Going to listen to Rossini's Otello. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:41, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for the reply. You're the most educated regarding music I've come across on Wikipedia, so I bothered you specifically. Give the small portion a listen at your leisure. Of course, I went off on a most minute tangent in my post above, but hey, why not? Guess I'll go listen to some free jazz now. North America1000 09:35, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
DYK for Sirenen
On 3 September 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Sirenen, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that in his opera Sirenen – Bilder des Begehrens und des Vernichtens, Rolf Riehm included instruments such as archaic wood planks, a musical saw, an accordion, and a piano? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Sirenen. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Sirenen), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:05, 3 September 2019 (UTC)
DYK for Ich steh vor dir mit leeren Händen, Herr
On 7 September 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Ich steh vor dir mit leeren Händen, Herr, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the melody of the Christian hymn "Ich steh vor dir mit leeren Händen, Herr" is written without bar lines, reflecting the singer's insecurity and questions? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ich steh vor dir mit leeren Händen, Herr. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Ich steh vor dir mit leeren Händen, Herr), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Fallt mit Danken, fallt mit Loben, BWV 248 IV
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Fallt mit Danken, fallt mit Loben, BWV 248 IV you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Lingzhi2 -- Lingzhi2 (talk) 06:42, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you, Lingzhi, for taking that one up, and the next, another of "my" articles with the key-word "peace". Just today, I received a note on the talk of a related image, which is also my "image for 2019", in the infobox on my user page and for my inages, theme "thanks". The note is fit for my "blushing" section: "This image, with all its faces, rejoicing in song, touched my heart. --Gwillhickers "
- "peace" could be the theme for 2020 ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:35, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
- Sounds like a good theme. Let's pray for world peace while we're at it. Cheers. ♦ Lingzhi2 (talk) 13:42, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, and for peace in what is regarded "wars" here. I have reading for you when you finished reviewing, let's call it a reward. Don't want to distract you right now ;) - Both articles were written a while ago, so I will need to refresh my memory. Today's job: make a great woman presentable for her bicentenary tomorrow. I managed to reduce calling her by just her first name, and simplifying some sentences. Would love more focus on what she did than the negative things she said about the works of others, sigh. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:49, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
- Sounds like a good theme. Let's pray for world peace while we're at it. Cheers. ♦ Lingzhi2 (talk) 13:42, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
Not to worry. If you're persistent, all roads lead to 'Rome'. See you there. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 05:11, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
- I am persistent ;) - My first barnstar was for resilience. We went to Rome, see Chor von St. Bonifatius, happy faces in praise singing in concert at San Paolo dentro le Mura, in mass at the Cathedral, and during the papal reception on St. Peter's Square where we were permitted to stand up for 45 seconds and sing, - Bach ;) (the ending of Sicut locutus est, 5-part fugue) - For the 'Rome' of peace, I have a vision of 2020 ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:26, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
self-congratulation of the crassest kind
I hereby pat myself on the back. If you look at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Good_articles/GAN_Backlog_Drives/September_2019, it offers seven different barnstars as rewards, in ascending order according to difficulty/achievement. The three highest awards were all created by none other than yours truly. So now I am killing myself to try to get up to 20 reviews (impossible for me, I think, because I take too much time on each) in order to be given a barnstar that I actually created many years ago. ♦ Lingzhi2 (talk) 16:37, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
- Lingzhi, I congratulate you to the GA reviews you do, simple and grateful! Among the 10 rules I can't recommend highly enough, "don't compare" is one. (Look below the smile above, in you cas you missed them.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:09, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
- Lingzhi, I think we need Recitative and aria, as a basic concept of much of sung classical music, sacred and secular. for example - Some of it is already in Aria, perhaps a redirect might be a starting point. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:13, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
aria and recitative
...so, are you gonna write Aria and recitative? Perhaps in your userspace, and move it into mainspace later? Tks ♦ Lingzhi2 (talk) 06:29, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
- I'm off to travel for the week. So, yes, if nobody else does. You could ask project opera, where it comes from. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:47, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
- Recitative comes first ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:48, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
- Started here; it's gonna take a long time. ♦ Lingzhi2 (talk) 13:41, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
- Fine, thank you. Just arrived, but will explore now. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:55, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
- Started here; it's gonna take a long time. ♦ Lingzhi2 (talk) 13:41, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
September 2019
Please do not remove maintenance templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Psalm 100, without resolving the problem that the template refers to, or giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your removal of this template does not appear constructive, and has been reverted. Thank you. Elizium23 (talk) 21:18, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
- That is not a maintenance template but a disgrace. If you really believe that Hebrew Bible text and its translation need protection, remove silently. What you do:
- is not acceptable. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:24, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
- Elizium23: Explaining further: you see a problem that I don't see. My edit summary explained that, I believe. You did the same to Psalms 1, 23, 51 and 42, so far. We have threads on your talk page and Yoninah. I assume in good faith that you see a problem, but the way you go about it is not helpful to readers. Please think about it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:41, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
- I am observing the prescribed procedures for copyright violation claims. "Silently removing them" is a disservice to the copyright holders and the editors on Wikipedia who work with articles. Please do not remove maintenance templates until the issues are resolved. "Tag bombing" is defined as "unjustified". I have explained my rationale for adding the tags. Elizium23 (talk) 21:47, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
- If I had translated a text which is 3000 years old I'd be happy to see it on Wikipedia. You have not yet said what you'd do instead. Translate it yourself? Request permission from the copyright holder? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:52, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
- You keep claiming the Hebrew text is thousands of years old. I suppose you are not familiar with developments such as Masoretic Text, Chapters and verses of the Bible, etc. Yoninah said the text is from the Tanakh. Great, which edition? I am confident that there are Hebrew transcriptions that are public-domain, much like there are English translations that are public-domain. But you can't have your cake and eat it too: any plain, Modern English translation that you may prefer is likely to be copyrighted. Ask any Bible translator who can tell you it gets very interesting to produce a new translation; you need to make sure that you haven't infringed another one, even by accident! Elizium23 (talk) 21:58, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
- Enjoy your superiority, but what can we do to protect our readers from the tags? How can we discuss the text of a psalm when we have to send a reader to an external link? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:04, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
- Apparently it boils down to the KJV being public domain and the other translations not. That completely ignores the Jewish version and POV. Yoninah (talk) 22:25, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
- We need to find a way. Psalm settings mentioned on the Main page, today ;) - "Make a joyful noise unto the Lord, all ye lands." --Gerda Arendt (talk) 04:35, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
- Apparently it boils down to the KJV being public domain and the other translations not. That completely ignores the Jewish version and POV. Yoninah (talk) 22:25, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
- Enjoy your superiority, but what can we do to protect our readers from the tags? How can we discuss the text of a psalm when we have to send a reader to an external link? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:04, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
- You keep claiming the Hebrew text is thousands of years old. I suppose you are not familiar with developments such as Masoretic Text, Chapters and verses of the Bible, etc. Yoninah said the text is from the Tanakh. Great, which edition? I am confident that there are Hebrew transcriptions that are public-domain, much like there are English translations that are public-domain. But you can't have your cake and eat it too: any plain, Modern English translation that you may prefer is likely to be copyrighted. Ask any Bible translator who can tell you it gets very interesting to produce a new translation; you need to make sure that you haven't infringed another one, even by accident! Elizium23 (talk) 21:58, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
- If I had translated a text which is 3000 years old I'd be happy to see it on Wikipedia. You have not yet said what you'd do instead. Translate it yourself? Request permission from the copyright holder? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:52, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
- I am observing the prescribed procedures for copyright violation claims. "Silently removing them" is a disservice to the copyright holders and the editors on Wikipedia who work with articles. Please do not remove maintenance templates until the issues are resolved. "Tag bombing" is defined as "unjustified". I have explained my rationale for adding the tags. Elizium23 (talk) 21:47, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
Bible translations in the public domain
Hi Gerda. I saw that you were in a conversation about translation use. In case this is useful, the following bible translations are in the public domain: American Standard Version (ASV) Darby Translation (DARBY) Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA) King James Version (KJV) World English Bible (WEB) Young's Literal Translation (YLT) Reina-Valera Antigua (RVA) Biblia Sacra Vulgata (VULGATE)
The American Standard Version is the one typically used in Academic Seminaries for theological journal publications.
For a Jewish translation in the public domain, the Jewish Publication Society's Hebrew Bible from 1917 is in the public domain.
As for User:Yoninah translating the text, that would be original scholarly work as Biblical translation is not using languages currently being spoken, and being interpreted in a time and place and culture no longer in existence. If it's her own original translations, that's amazing, but not verifiable by wikipedia's standards for WP:No Original Research. Biblical translation requires skilled analysis, I know I went to seminary and studied Biblical Greek and Hebrew myself. Translation in this context is research and not just mere translation. Thanks for your good work on the Psalms.4meter4 (talk) 01:38, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
- I read that thread, and went -- pfffft. Just seems like copyright paranoia to me. The translation at issue may be copyright; fine, we can use a different one, e.g. the one 4meter4 suggests. As of those revisions in the history, honestly, I just don't get how people get so pantytwisted over that -- it's not the current version, it's not harming the source, and removing the revisions from all the other Psalms would be a rather large job. But I'm sure lots of people disagree with me; oh well. Antandrus (talk) 02:54, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you, both, I feel much better reading your comments, - ready for another vacation day with joyful noise (organ concert at noon and hopefully symphony concert planned). Eric (Corbett) told me "chin up", which I have taken to heart, and the top image illustrates the attitude well ;) - Also: Ray's Rules (look for his smile and click on "don't get too upset over this". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:45, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
- Yes Antndrus, it may be a big job to clean this all up, but let's consider the alternative: admins and editors become lax on copyright issues, and eventually an infringement is large enough for the WMF to be hit with a significant DMCA takedown notice, and then an infringement lawsuit. The overriding reason that we take copyright seriously here is because it's a legal liability. The same reason we take BLPs seriously. The other reason we take a dim view of copyrighted content is that Wikipedia is fundamentally about freely-licensed content. We live and breathe CC-BY-SA here. Free content enjoys pride of place on the project, and it is rightly deserved. We are doing all we can to advance the cause of Creative Commons and other free licensing. I have been an advocate of Free and Open-Source Software for almost 30 years. There is no longer a good justification for stifling innovation and sharing with restrictions on proprietary content and "intellectual property". Free content is an idea whose time has come, and so let's use PD Bible translations (until someone makes a CC-BY-SA translation!) because free content is good for everyone. Elizium23 (talk) 06:11, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you, both, I feel much better reading your comments, - ready for another vacation day with joyful noise (organ concert at noon and hopefully symphony concert planned). Eric (Corbett) told me "chin up", which I have taken to heart, and the top image illustrates the attitude well ;) - Also: Ray's Rules (look for his smile and click on "don't get too upset over this". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:45, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
- The copyright violations were in old revisions. You defaced the current, copyright-violation-free version with a hideous tag, that applied to nothing a passing reader would actually see. That's the problem. That's called "copyright paranoia". Look, I'm glad you are trying to help, but listen to me lecture you right back -- I've been an admin here longer than you have been an editor and this is a classic case of overreacting. Antandrus (talk) 13:48, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
- Antandrus, on my way out (again) to listen to Blomstedt (failwell concert): click on "don't get too upset over this" --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:53, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
- I miss Raymond. He was one of my best friends here. -- Have a good time today -- will do the same. :) Antandrus (talk) 14:14, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
- I miss Br'er Rabbit, to whom he said it (when he was banned because he wanted it). He was one of my best friend here. - Yes, a good time with the serene conductor obviously enjoying Haydn 104 and Brahms 2, without baton. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:24, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
- I miss Raymond. He was one of my best friends here. -- Have a good time today -- will do the same. :) Antandrus (talk) 14:14, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
- Antandrus, on my way out (again) to listen to Blomstedt (failwell concert): click on "don't get too upset over this" --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:53, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
- Just a further note to everyone, bible copyrights are often less strict than other published resources. For example, the NIV translation allows a fair use rationale as follows: "may be quoted in any form (written, visual, electronic or audio), up to and inclusive of five hundred (500) verses without the express written permission of the publisher, providing the verses quoted do not amount to a complete book of the Bible nor do the verses quoted account for twenty-five percent (25%) or more of the total text of the work in which they are quoted." The Complete Jewish Bible allows up to 500 words of quoted material as long as a specific attribution is given: [2]. As long as you are following these guidelines from the publisher and are clearly providing attribution as requested by the publisher, I don't see why you couldn't use scripture quotes to a certain extent from more contemporary translations. Copyright policy on wikipedia isn't my specialty, so others may feel free to chime in. Best.4meter4 (talk) 15:44, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you, 4meter4. But Gerda and I are undertaking a long-term project of updating all the psalms pages, which would entail a lot more than 500 verses. Psalm 119 alone has 176 verses. Yoninah (talk) 18:54, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
- Yoninah, I think what might work is having the full Hebrew and 1927 translation, and explaining alternatives using the other (or others) in just bits where needed. I just returned from a great concert, and haven't looked what else happened in the meantime, and am not even in the mood to look ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:24, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you, 4meter4. But Gerda and I are undertaking a long-term project of updating all the psalms pages, which would entail a lot more than 500 verses. Psalm 119 alone has 176 verses. Yoninah (talk) 18:54, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
- Just a further note to everyone, bible copyrights are often less strict than other published resources. For example, the NIV translation allows a fair use rationale as follows: "may be quoted in any form (written, visual, electronic or audio), up to and inclusive of five hundred (500) verses without the express written permission of the publisher, providing the verses quoted do not amount to a complete book of the Bible nor do the verses quoted account for twenty-five percent (25%) or more of the total text of the work in which they are quoted." The Complete Jewish Bible allows up to 500 words of quoted material as long as a specific attribution is given: [2]. As long as you are following these guidelines from the publisher and are clearly providing attribution as requested by the publisher, I don't see why you couldn't use scripture quotes to a certain extent from more contemporary translations. Copyright policy on wikipedia isn't my specialty, so others may feel free to chime in. Best.4meter4 (talk) 15:44, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
- Yoninah, from my interpretation, each wikipedia article would be it's own separate use, and you could use up to 500 verses per article (as long as it does not exceed 24% of the article's text). If it's 500 verses only wikipedia wide, that's another matter. You could always contact the publisher and see what they say. Best.4meter4 (talk) 20:03, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
- That is a moot point: Gerda and Yoninah do not wish to use "Christian sources" for Bible translations, they want a Jewish translation. Also, Wikipedia has stricter non-free content criteria than the publishers of the NIV allow. Simply quoting non-free text verbatim in toto (and they want full-text of all 150 Psalms) is far, far more than our policy will allow. Elizium23 (talk) 20:11, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
- Precision please (even if I'm not in the mood for the whole topic, and am biting my tongue not to respond to some of your comments): Yoninah wants a Jewish translation, and I (Christian) support that wish, to fight systematic bias, in this case for Christian while the psalms were originally Jewish. What in my comment in this thread, "explaining alternatives ... in just bits where needed" (bolding added now), was unclear? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:21, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
- User:Elizium23, I provided both Christian and Jewish resources for them to consider. Guess you missed that. Thank you for clarifying the policy towards non-free content criteria. Best.4meter4 (talk) 20:57, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
- Precision please (even if I'm not in the mood for the whole topic, and am biting my tongue not to respond to some of your comments): Yoninah wants a Jewish translation, and I (Christian) support that wish, to fight systematic bias, in this case for Christian while the psalms were originally Jewish. What in my comment in this thread, "explaining alternatives ... in just bits where needed" (bolding added now), was unclear? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:21, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
- That is a moot point: Gerda and Yoninah do not wish to use "Christian sources" for Bible translations, they want a Jewish translation. Also, Wikipedia has stricter non-free content criteria than the publishers of the NIV allow. Simply quoting non-free text verbatim in toto (and they want full-text of all 150 Psalms) is far, far more than our policy will allow. Elizium23 (talk) 20:11, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
- Yoninah, from my interpretation, each wikipedia article would be it's own separate use, and you could use up to 500 verses per article (as long as it does not exceed 24% of the article's text). If it's 500 verses only wikipedia wide, that's another matter. You could always contact the publisher and see what they say. Best.4meter4 (talk) 20:03, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
(more in archive)
Help with translations of psalms from Hebrew wanted!
Please help if you know a decent translation of a psalm directly from Hebrew to English which is NOT under copyright. Psalms 84, 23, 42, 51 and more to come. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:02, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
E♭
"Abendlich strahlt der Sonne Auge; in prächtiger Gluth prangt glänzend die Burg."
It's not quite the same thing, but my great-grandfather sang Gunther with Richter in the first Ring in English at Covent Garden in 1908. Is Valkyrie next on your list ?
I really popped by to ask if you could have a quick look at my drafts of British Symphony Orchestra and British Symphony Orchestra discography and let me what you think, especially the discography. There's even links to some Bach cantatas... MinorProphet (talk) 22:18, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
- MinorProphet, perfect timing, the sound is still with me, Der Ring in Minden! Wotan will also be Gunther, and Loge also Siegmund, and Siegfried twice, and all good and with lyric and comic elements, - he left the stage like a jester! Calling Wehwalt to the scene, because he might be interested. - I'll look at the articles, but not right now. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:47, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
DYK for Vespro della Beata Vergine
On 27 September 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Vespro della Beata Vergine, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that in September 1610, Monteverdi dedicated to Pope Paul V his Vespro della Beata Vergine, a complex vespers composition which included the style of the emerging opera? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Vespro della Beata Vergine. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Vespro della Beata Vergine), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
valereee (talk) 00:01, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
May interest you
Hi Gerda, based on your past interest in some of my editing projects, I thought you might be interested to know that I've nominated Charles H. Stonestreet, a Georgetown president, for FAC. If you're at all interested in leaving comments, I'd appreciate them. Ergo Sum 17:01, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you, and I am interested, but will be away for most of the time until 6 October, look for Minden above. - If you have spare time, I have a peer review open ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:43, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
Hi Gerda - I've made an edit to this article, and left a message on the Talk page requesting help for creating two refs to newspapers, and deleting a bad one. If you don't know how to do this, maybe you know someone else who does. All I do nowadays is read articles that I'm interested in, or occasionally make minor corrections that don't require refs; my brain has stopped working, and the last thing I want to do is learn how to do this myself. Many thanks for any help, and my very best wishes to you. Milkunderwood (talk) 23:50, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
- Milkunderwood, thank you for coming over, and sad to hear about your brain. Ideally, what someone would have to do is look for the citation style in that article, and make a proper reference in that style. If you think you are not the one, you could either hope someone sees this, or just put the urls betwen opening and closing a ref in the article, or say the same thing on project classical music. I am happily away for my first Ring! [3] --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:55, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you. No, I'm sorry; I've always been confused about this kind of ref cite even when I was still compos mentis. I hope your Ring will be wonderful. Milkunderwood (talk) 23:25, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
- Actually, although I said on that Strickland talk page that the Washington Times ref should be removed, it needs to remain, because it apparently contains information that neither NYTimes nor the Tennessean provide. But it does need a proper link, which it doesn't presently have. Milkunderwood (talk) 23:54, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you. No, I'm sorry; I've always been confused about this kind of ref cite even when I was still compos mentis. I hope your Ring will be wonderful. Milkunderwood (talk) 23:25, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
ITN recognition for Jessye Norman
On 2 October 2019, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Jessye Norman, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page.
SpencerT•C 03:21, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you. I am so grateful for her singing. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:39, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Clara Schumann
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Clara Schumann you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Reaper Eternal -- Reaper Eternal (talk) 15:20, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
Potential merger
Hey, I was thinking of merging The Music of Francis Poulenc with List of compositions by Francis Poulenc and as you're the articles main composer I thought I'd get your opinion. As I see it there's no need for a composer with a relatively small body of work to have two pages devoted to his compositions. It's not like with Mozart where his catalogue is so large it needs to be split. Both pages are fairly small so when combined they wouldn't be enormous. Also The Music of Francis Poulenc's page views are only a fraction of the composition list page so the (in my mind) much better laid out page is going unseen.
Look forward to hearing your thoughts, Hochithecreator (talk) 18:08, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
- Well, how would you do it. If you plan to merge the plain list to the sortable one, you'd have to ask the others ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:31, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
- I'd keep the prose introduction from The Music of Francis Poulenc and then have "Compositions by Genre" and "Compositions by FP No." as they appear on the respective pages. As neither article has a talk page I'm not sure how I would ask the others. Hochithecreator (talk) 20:24, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
- To have compositions by genre and by number is exactly why the sortable list exists. Compare Reger and Sibelius. I find it more elegant and less redundant to have each piece listed only once, but be able to sort by different criteria (title, year of composition ...). You can find contributors in the article history, - the bulk was added by Kleinzach. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:35, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
Gerda, your German language skills would be useful at this AFD. I know its not your content area, but I thought you might be willing to help with an informed opinion. I have no opinion myself. Best.4meter4 (talk) 20:37, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
- I replied already ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:47, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
Brahms
Hi Gerda - the 'music' section of this article is poor and needs completely rewriting, so you needn't bother too much about it. I've only dealt with the Life in my rewrite so far.--Smerus (talk) 16:22, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
- I agree, thanks for the warning. I'm done for the moment. The latest gem was "Brahms's point of view looked both backward and forward". Let's look forward ;) - Siegfried (first on stage ever) was great yesterday, forward to Götterdämmerung (seen before as pictured)! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:26, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
Brahms edit-warring by Smerus
I see you found a way around some of the Brahms' vs Brahms's problems by simply changing it to "his". I thought of that myself, but I didn't want to go making controversial changes while it was being discussed on the talk page and we hadn't reached consensus yet. That's what I tried to tell Smerus, but he insisted on edit-warring and is now on the edge of violating 3RR. One more change by him and I'm taking it to ANI. His politicking posts in the talk page thread along the lines of "I'm right so what I say goes" are disruptive and not conducive to constructive intelligent dialog.
He even lied about it and tried to turn it around on me, but I never made the edits, he did, without discussing it on the talk page instead. He even had a meatpuppet post there for him, LindsayH. I followed the procedures and notified him on his talk page and in my revert edit summaries.
I'm not going to complain about your edits, even though the talk discussion is still ongoing and we haven't reached consensus. We don't reach consensus just by claiming we have because that shuts out the conversation, a sort of deplatforming. Smerus' shouting me down is not going to work either. I'm trying to have a constructive dialog, but several people have just loudly insisted "It's in the rules, so we're done" when in fact the rules say otherwise. Chuckstreet (talk) 17:10, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
- I didn't pay much attention to the article, but now looked and found it in poor shape. I told you already to take it easier. I almost never go by teh rulez so forgive me for not being helpful about that part. In articles I wrote and care about, there won't be any Brahms' - with or without "s". Example Vier ernste Gesänge. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:18, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
- Chuckstreet, so, for a change, I looked at MOS:POSS, - very simple by that: "If a name already ends in s or z and would be difficult to pronounce if 's were added to the end, consider rearranging the phrase to avoid the difficulty" - that's what I tried without reading. If not rephrased, it ought to be "Brahms's" per the MoS, with the only exception "for Brahms' sake". Please look. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:32, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
- Chuckstreet, I urge you to tell me here what you see at the section linked above, which is from the Manual of Style. What you quote is some article on apostrophe which seems NOT RELEVANT at all. (Sorry for shouting.) Seems a big misunderstanding, with a lot of noise. I think a little apology might be in order, or what do I read wrong? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:32, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
Thank You!!
Aw, shucks, it was nothin'. :) WQUlrich (talk) 20:10, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
- Der Mann ohne Eigenschaften ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:15, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
Sorry
This was a accidental misclick.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 23:55, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
- understand, happens to all of us --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:47, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
DYK Empress
Hey Gerda, you are the DYK Empress. There's no rush, but over time would you be willing to do me a favor? May I try to write five or more DYK blurbs, and ask you to look at them? Yes! ♦ Lingzhi2 (talk) 10:26, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
- Anytime, just with patience for the reply please, - pilgrimage will end tomorrow with Götterdämmerung, iconic image, DYK? I wish DYK had room for blurbs, - 200 chars are really too little. What would I say about Jessye Norman in one line? Will have to take her to FA, I'm afraid. GAN open, - I didn't write the article, though, many did, 4meter4 most of it. Nice stats anyway. Long live her memory, - I feel so blessed to have heard her in recital! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:46, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
- Oh I just now saw your Bengal Famine DYK. Not sure it's entirely accurate... it would be more accurate to say that after any mention of the word "famine" or discussion thereof was banned from newspapers, the Statesman printed photos instead. And not only did the wider world not know about the famine until those photos, many in Idia itself did not really know!... And... it is possible to have more than one DYK for the same article? I was asking for your help writing DYKs for Bengal famine of 1943. I wanted to nominate a DYK so I would be eligible for WP:TRIPLE CROWN... ♦ Lingzhi2 (talk) 12:23, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
- Make suggestions, here or in the nomination. I was told that I was a week late already, so couldn't think for too long ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:15, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
- I put a suggestion on the talk page of the dyk template ♦ Lingzhi2 (talk) 15:00, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
- I moved it to be ALT1. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:49, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
- I put a suggestion on the talk page of the dyk template ♦ Lingzhi2 (talk) 15:00, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
- Make suggestions, here or in the nomination. I was told that I was a week late already, so couldn't think for too long ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:15, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
- Oh I just now saw your Bengal Famine DYK. Not sure it's entirely accurate... it would be more accurate to say that after any mention of the word "famine" or discussion thereof was banned from newspapers, the Statesman printed photos instead. And not only did the wider world not know about the famine until those photos, many in Idia itself did not really know!... And... it is possible to have more than one DYK for the same article? I was asking for your help writing DYKs for Bengal famine of 1943. I wanted to nominate a DYK so I would be eligible for WP:TRIPLE CROWN... ♦ Lingzhi2 (talk) 12:23, 5 October 2019 (UTC)