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As I [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Calvin_Gibbs&diff=386608266&oldid=382671245 wrote here], you are entitled to challenge the fair use rationale on [[:File:Calvin Gibbs, from his high school yearbook, via the Washington Post.jpg]]. But I added that I thought [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Calvin_Gibbs&diff=385919409&oldid=385900550 simply excising] the image was inappropriate. I further think your characterization of the image as a copyvio was inappropriate. |
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I restored the image. |
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Please advise me if you choose to use the wikipedia's established procedures to challenge the image. |
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Please advise me if you think you can direct my attention to the wikidocument you alluded to earlier, that backs up your assertion that fair use images |
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Please be advised that I [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Skier_Dude&diff=prev&oldid=386611161 left a note] that referred to your actions on [[User talk:Skier Dude]]. [[User:Geo Swan|Geo Swan]] ([[User talk:Geo Swan|talk]]) 21:00, 23 September 2010 (UTC) |
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I have removed it again, please don't replace it, is is a non fee image in a BLP when go getting one is totally an option. Please be aware that disputed images in BLP should better be removed while the issue is resolved. [[User:Off2riorob|Off2riorob]] ([[User talk:Off2riorob|talk]]) 21:05, 23 September 2010 (UTC) |
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[[Wikipedia:Non free content]] is a good start and this is a bit more specific [[Wikipedia:NFC#UUI]] - Please be aware that commenting here and there and me not replying is a likely sign that I have not seen the post, I recommend if you want to discuss anything with me, please contact me on my talkpage to guarantee I see it, regards. [[User:Off2riorob|Off2riorob]] ([[User talk:Off2riorob|talk]]) 21:24, 23 September 2010 (UTC) |
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Yes templates do include categories. However the guideline very specifically recommends against doing this for article entries. The problem that bring this to light is when editors add the category to pages that don't belong in the category. So the fix is to removed the category entry from the template and then in cases where the articles don't include the category already, to include it so we don't lose the link to the category. Also there are many cases with the templates are over categorizing by adding articles to extra categories that are already covered by other categories already listed in the article. So in the end, it is probably not wise to use templates to add categories for articles except is well planned specific cases. Vegaswikian (talk) 17:43, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
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User space drafts
You might stop with removing these templates. They are necessary specially in cases of highly controversial topics like Guantanamo. IQinn (talk) 08:37, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
- On July 26 I advised you that I raised this issue, and was informed that {{userspace draft}} were redundant, when the userspace page already had a __NOINDEX__ on it.
- You removed that good faith message, and several other good faith messages, apparently without even reading them. Please understand that you cannot continue to behave unaccountably, as if your opinions are the only ones that matter. Geo Swan (talk) 08:00, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
- WRT {{userspace draft}} -- it is shocking that you erase good faith messages from your talk page. It is shocking that, when you had the discussion at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical) drawn to your attention, you STILL didn't bother reading that discussion with sufficient care to properly understand it.
- Listen, you have a lot of energy, and you could be a much more effective contributor, if only you owned up to your imperfect command of English. You get into conflicts all the time, with all kinds of contributors, where the main cause of the conflict is your imperfect command of English.
- This is an instance where you are creating a lot of unpleasant, unnecessary drama, and where, if you read the definitive answer, then clearly your imperfect command of English failed you once again.
- I shouldn't have to do this, but I excerpted the key passage.
- ...{{userspace draft}} ... provides a visual note in addition to noindexing; if you don't care about the box, then yes, its redundant.
- I urge you to regard this as a cautionary incident. I urge you to recognize you need to be more humble, and accept how often your command of English fails you. Geo Swan (talk) 09:20, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
- It is shocking that you write uncivil posts full of false allegations. I did read all these messages and discussions. I do remove messages from my talk page that are done or uncivil. Your uncivil accusations here are just shocking.
- I confirm i read and fully understand these discussions i am fluent in at least six languages including English. Your accusations are uncivil, wrong and disruptive.
- You are misinterpreting the discussion and the result of the discussion at the Village pump and you are quoting here out of context. Be careful with that.
- We need both templates here as your numerous biased user space drafts concern highly controversial topics. Better save than sorry. The noindex tag is no guarantee that nobody arrives at these drafts. IQinn (talk) 10:08, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
- I urge you to regard this as a cautionary incident. I urge you to recognize you need to be more humble, and accept how often your command of English fails you. Geo Swan (talk) 09:20, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
File copyright problem with File:Ashley-kirilow.jpg
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BLP1E
If you would like to argue for the elimination of BLP1E then the appropriate place to do so would be the talk page of WP:BLP or at the Village Pump. However, it's still currently a valid policy. Burpelson AFB (talk) 23:32, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for your opinion on where it is worth raising my concerns over blp1e.
- In my opinion you have a responsibility to explain why you claim Kirilow is a blp1e. Geo Swan (talk) 02:30, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
- It's obvious if you've read the policy. Also, see the now-concluded AfD discussion for the BIO. According to the same policy, there's no reason you couldn't add this story to the Facebook article (or a related sub-article), or to an article about Social Media scams. It just doesn't deserve its own article as a BLP. Burpelson AFB (talk) 23:09, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
Riad (al-Qaeda host)
Could you please explain. Thank you. IQinn (talk) 08:23, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
Orphaned non-free image File:Ashley-kirilow.jpg
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Civil conversations
I am a bit surprised and confused on your way of communications. You replying to a bunch of discussions on your talk page. Including false allegations against me but only minutes later you are archiving these discussion without giving me the opportunity to reply or to answer your questions. Really i do not think that this is an appropriate way to solve disputes. How shall we proceed now? IQinn (talk) 14:27, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
- I archive the discussions on my talk page. You, on the other hand, erase good faith comments good faith contributors leave on your talk page, describing those good faith contributor's efforts as "trolls" or "harrassment".
- Are you now genuinely interested in resolving disputes?
- If you are genuinely interested in resolving disputes I have some general suggestions for you:
- I suggest you immediately curtail your routine escalation to stating or implying those who have questions or concerns over your edits or comments are acting in bad faith.
- I suggest you have to accept that your edits are just as subject to review as mine are, as Jimbo Wales's contributions are, or those of any other contributor. It does not matter whether questions and concerns I pose about your edits in article space concern edits to material originally contributed by someone else, or whether my concerns are about edits you made to material I originally contributed, so long as my concerns are civil, and substantive, you have an obligation to try to offer with a civil and substantive response.
- I suggest you should show you are willing to own up and acknowledge when you made mistakes. You are not infallible. No one is.
- I have recently returned to my concern that you have an imperfect command of English, and that this imperfect command of English is a problem for you, a problem for the project as a whole, and a problem for good faith contributors who work on the same articles as you do. I do not do this to be offensive. In spite of the countless personal attacks you have leveled against me I have continued to do my best to understand when you may be expressing real concerns.
- I honestly believe that it is very much in your interest to understand the trail of hurt feelings you leave. It is not just me. You insult and attack all kinds of contributors, including contributors you are interacting with for the first time. The administrator who closed the {{afd}} you kept open for a record-breaking 56 days? You were way out of line to imply abuse of authority on his part.
- I honestly believe that your activities on the wikipedia would be more pleasant, for you, if you had a more realistic assessment of your ability to understand when you are being attacked. Your record shows you routinely address contributors who pose civil questions or concerns over your activities, as if you were counter-attacking them, and were responding in kind to an initial attack. I have probably read more of your comments than any other wikipedian. I now believe that in almost all the cases where you addressed other contributors as if you had been attacked you had not been attacked. I now honestly believe that you, however, really do think you are being attacked. If you honestly think you are under constant attack here, wouldn't your experience here be more pleasant if you realized you were not under constant attack?
- I should point out to you, however, wikipolicy does not encourage us to "respond in kind" to personal attacks. Even on those occasions when an uninvolved third party confirms for you that you were the target of a personal attack, you are not supposed to respond in kind.
- Now, if there are specific concerns that you wanted to address, that I have archived -- please feel free to bring them up again, provided you can do so in a civil, specific and policy-based manner. Geo Swan (talk) 15:33, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
- That's wrong i have never erased good faith comments good faith contributors leave on my talk page. Though i delete comments that are done, that come are made by "trolls" or are simply "uncivil". That's is perfectly fine with our policies and they all can be found in the history.
- As said i am fluent in six languages including English and there is no lack of understanding that claim is ridiculous.
- Your trail of baseless accusations and incivility in this post are endless and it would be a waste of time to reply to all of them. I think you are one of the most controversial editors on Wikipedia and you have fought with dozens of editors over the years most of them simply left because it is just no fun to work with somebody who shows strong signs of ownership. So you wrote most of the 1000 articles in the Guantanamo section entirely yourself over years. I guess you simply got used to think there is only your POV. I still hope you can change and show greater efforts to accept that other people change and revamp article that you once started. Please work towards consensus in content issues i think than these articles could have a chance improve. Thanks for the offer. Yes i will start new discussions here about topics that are still open. I have already started one. Cheers! IQinn (talk) 16:04, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
Personal attacks
You continue to accuse me that my User name would be used by multiple individual. This is false i confirm again your allegation is absolute wrong and you do not provide any valid diffs for your allegations. I would like to ask you to provide me here with concrete examples based on real diffs that would support your allegations. Allegations without providing credible evidence are personal attacks. So diffs please. Thank you. IQinn (talk) 14:40, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
Map of Samuel herans expedition
Hi, I just saw you are a map maker. Could you make a map of Samuel Hearnes expedition? This is an image which shows his route:
Best regards --Carl Steinbeißer (talk) 18:31, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry, I have been an amateur mapmaker. I used a free online mapmaking tool. The site that hosted that tool for the last 6 years or so stopped hosting it about two months ago. And, until I learn to use a new tool, I won't be making any maps.
- There are some other contributors who made some much better maps than mine. But I think there maps were more work for them. Some of my maps only took me a few minutes, because the tool did all the work. You might find that they will give you some good map-making advice though.
Thank you. A german map maker already helped me. Best. --Carl Steinbeißer (talk) 08:22, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
Your message on my talk page
Thank you. IQinn (talk) 14:00, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Your message on my talk page
Thank you. IQinn (talk) 00:10, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
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Talkback
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Notes vs drafts
I have left a message for the templator, in it I deprecate this particular use of {{Userspace draft}}. I also say "There might be value in finding or creating a {{Userspace notes}} template, or in Geo using a group notice on his pages, but now that is drawn to his attention, I suggest you leave it to him. "
Rgds, Rich Farmbrough, 17:24, 15 September 2010 (UTC).
- Template:Editnotices/Group/User:Geo Swan will appear at the top of all your user pages (and Template:Editnotices/Group/User talk:Geo Swan for your user talk pages) - that is what I meant by "a group notice". I would keep that short and succinct and link to the text you just created, for more detail something like "These user pages may contain working notes and historical material not suitable for article space, and do not purport to encyclopedic values. For more detail see..." Rich Farmbrough, 18:42, 15 September 2010 (UTC).
- I also created the notes template:
- Rich Farmbrough, 18:42, 15 September 2010 (UTC).
- Thanks. I was not familiar with this feature. When I tried to edit that page it said I was not authorized to do so. I think I have figured out what I would like, for starters anyhow. Can you suggest what I need to do to get access to edit the page? Or, if it simpler, could you put the following in there?
- You are editing rough notes, in user-space, not a wikipedia article. It has not been subjected to the same scrutiny, or written to the same standards as an actual wikipedia article. See User:Geo Swan/An introduction to the notes on subpages under User:Geo Swan for more details.
Please be careful
In reply to your recent message on my talk page. You carelessly uploaded an image of a person and added it to the article Calvin Gibbs. The person in the image was not Calvin Gibbs and i removed it. Please be more careful in the future and please do not blame other for your mistakes. Controversial edit? That is laughable. IQinn (talk) 23:15, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
Possibly unfree File:Adam Winfield, charged with premeditated murder at FOB Ramrod, Kandahar.jpg
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copyright
Wikipedia takes copyright policy very seriously. Please take care, we do not need to have a picture in our articles, non free images in a BLP are pretty much a no no, also take care with claims of PD, pretty pictures are nice but we need strong clear free to use media or it is more trouble than it is worth, adding of files that belong to people can diminish that pictures value immensely, please take care with copyright. Off2riorob (talk) 14:51, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
- As I wrote on the recent discussion, I am going to assume you were in a hurry, and you failed to notice that the Washington Post explicitly credited the US Army.
- I think I already take copyright seriously, thank you.
- I am going to take the liberty of disagreeing with you on several points.
- In my opinion relevant images, add to the value of our articles. If you think you can explain why they do not, I'd be very interested in reading that explanation.
- WRT your assertion that fair use images in biographies "pretty much a no no" -- are you able o cite a wikidocument that backs up this view?
- WRT "more trouble than it is worth"? I found this portion of your note unclear.
- I am going to close with a request. Could you consider avoiding the use of dismissive terms like "pretty pictures"? We are supposed to have real discussions, civil, collegial discussions, where we really consider the possibility that we are wrong, and our correspondents are correct, or are making valid points. I suggest that the use of dismissive terms like "pretty pictures" can give the unfortunate appearance that you have a closed mind, and are not really prepared to consider that one's correspondent can offer valid counter-points. Geo Swan (talk) 22:04, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
Orphaned non-free image File:Calvin Gibbs, from his high school yearbook, via the Washington Post.jpg
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fyi
As I wrote here, you are entitled to challenge the fair use rationale on File:Calvin Gibbs, from his high school yearbook, via the Washington Post.jpg. But I added that I thought simply excising the image was inappropriate. I further think your characterization of the image as a copyvio was inappropriate.
I restored the image.
Please advise me if you choose to use the wikipedia's established procedures to challenge the image.
Please advise me if you think you can direct my attention to the wikidocument you alluded to earlier, that backs up your assertion that fair use images could not be used in articles on individuals.
Please be advised that I left a note that referred to your actions on User talk:Skier Dude. Geo Swan (talk) 21:00, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
I have removed it again, please don't replace it, is is a non fee image in a BLP when go getting one is totally an option. Please be aware that disputed images in BLP should better be removed while the issue is resolved. Off2riorob (talk) 21:05, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Non free content is a good start and this is a bit more specific Wikipedia:NFC#UUI - Please be aware that commenting here and there and me not replying is a likely sign that I have not seen the post, I recommend if you want to discuss anything with me, please contact me on my talkpage to guarantee I see it, regards. Off2riorob (talk) 21:24, 23 September 2010 (UTC)