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Sorry, I'm going to have to re-block. He's a sockpuppet of Zephram Stark. [[User:Jayjg|Jayjg ]]<sup><small><font color="DarkGreen">[[User_talk:Jayjg|(talk)]]</font></small></sup> 20:57, 2 May 2006 (UTC) |
Sorry, I'm going to have to re-block. He's a sockpuppet of Zephram Stark. [[User:Jayjg|Jayjg ]]<sup><small><font color="DarkGreen">[[User_talk:Jayjg|(talk)]]</font></small></sup> 20:57, 2 May 2006 (UTC) |
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:I would be interested to see the proof, please. Thanks.—[[User:Ezhiki|Ëzhiki (ërinacëus amurënsis)]] • ([[User talk:Ezhiki|yo?]]); 21:02, 2 May 2006 (UTC) |
:I would be interested to see the proof, please. Thanks.—[[User:Ezhiki|Ëzhiki (ërinacëus amurënsis)]] • ([[User talk:Ezhiki|yo?]]); 21:02, 2 May 2006 (UTC) |
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::Based on a number of pieces of evidence, including CheckUser. By the way, he doesn't really speak Russian; he's using Babelfish to translate for him. That's why he made up that crazy story about promising never to speak Russian any more. [[User:Jayjg|Jayjg ]]<sup><small><font color="DarkGreen">[[User_talk:Jayjg|(talk)]]</font></small></sup> 21:03, 2 May 2006 (UTC) |
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Old oblasts
I thought you might like this:[1]. And this [2]. Don't worry it is the site that needs permission not you actually quite a lot of pre-1973 stuff there. --Kuban Cossack 21:53, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
- Well, the first one has no references, but it can be useful for re-checking. As for the second—whoa, thanks! It's the next best thing to this! I only wish I had enough time and skill to process these maps into something usable by Wikipedia. I now have one less reason to procrastinate with the Russian historical divisions project :)21:59, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
.ogg formatting
Hello Ezhiki! Would you have any objections if I restylized the .ogg formatting on the Kaliningrad Oblast towns to the following (using Pravdinsk as an example)?
- Pravdinsk (Russian: ; until 1946 German: ; Lithuanian: Romuva; Polish: Frydląd) is a town in Kaliningrad Oblast...
It removes the lengthy "pronunciation" while still having links to Help and Info. Olessi 19:17, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
- Well, help and info links do not concern me as much as the loss of the lang-ru template. Perhaps we could abbreviate the word "pronunciation" or replace it with something shorter? The only reason why I even bothered to reformat the intro in the first place was to retain both lang-ru and the audio. Your new version looks and reads better, there is no doubt about that, but it loses {{lang-ru}}. I see that as an unacceptable loss. I'll try to tweak the intro a bit more to combine the best of both versions, but I can't promise I'll be successful. Do you have any ideas as to how both templates can be retained without making the intro look ugly? If all else fails, perhaps it would be better to make a small infobox just for audio. It's just a wild idea, though.—Ëzhiki (ërinacëus amurënsis) • (yo?); 19:25, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
I'm confused by your preference for the lang-ru template. It is my understanding that the lang templates exist to make things a tad easier for contributors to type; there's no visual difference in the actual article. Aside from consistency with using {{lang-lt}} for Romuva and {{lang-pl}} for Frydląd, what is the advantage of using {{lang-ru}}?
Here are some of the various formatting styles I have seen used:
- German: [my preference]
- German: Marienburg ( )
- German: Marienburg
The middle choice (currently used at Pravdinsk) looks ok if it is the only "alternative" name listed, but when multiple names are listed "pronunciation" and the extra parentheses clutter everything up. I don't have any experience with coding templates myself, so I'm not sure how to design a better template. It seems to me that improving the article's visual flow would be more important than maintaining internal consistency that only editors would see, not readers. Olessi 19:46, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
- I am sorry, I didn't realize you were not aware of the {{lang-ru}} template's details; I should have explained. You are right that there is no visual difference. The template, however, also adds metadata, marking the text as written in the Russian language (by means of the HTML span tags), which, among other things, is important for indexing the text by the search engines. See template talk:lang-ru and template talk:lang-uk for more information on that. I realize, of course, that having audio is more important than having metadata, but since the two templates are not mutually exclusive, I'd rather that we find a way of combining them somehow.—Ëzhiki (ërinacëus amurënsis) • (yo?); 20:00, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
- Interesting stuff to learn about the template. Is that something specific to the Russian template or is it used in other language templates as well? I first became aware of the proposed formatting when User:David Kernow added it to Prussia. I don't know if he would have any solutions, but would you mind if I invited him to look at the formatting and see if he has any ideas? Olessi 20:44, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
- Of course I wouldn't! The more the merrier.—Ëzhiki (ërinacëus amurënsis) • (yo?); 20:58, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
- Interesting stuff to learn about the template. Is that something specific to the Russian template or is it used in other language templates as well? I first became aware of the proposed formatting when User:David Kernow added it to Prussia. I don't know if he would have any solutions, but would you mind if I invited him to look at the formatting and see if he has any ideas? Olessi 20:44, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
Hi Ëzhiki, Olessi: Great to see you're already well into sorting out what occurred to me when I came by the Prussia article (also Sambia, maybe one other... need to check contribution history), i.e. combining the language and pronunciation links. My next thought is whether a combined template is possible, one that produces the "German: " kind of format and carries the metadata Ëzhiki mentions above. What do you think? Regards, David Kernow 01:30, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Hi, David, thanks for joining in. I kind of produced a quick fix in the past (see, for example, Pionersky, Kaliningrad Oblast), but as Olessi rightfully noted, it looks ugly. I tried tinkering with lang-ru/audio combination, and was unable to produce anything better. Perhaps, the solution would be to create a new set of template, something like {{audio-ru}}, which would produce the desired input and retain the metadata?—Ëzhiki (ërinacëus amurënsis) • (yo?); 18:07, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- That would be useful; are there any template-makers-for-hire available? Olessi 22:45, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
- Perhaps, but since I don't know any, I'll try to make one myself this week. Just let me know if David's version above looks OK, or if you want it to look differently (if so, please provide an example I can work with). Thanks!—Ëzhiki (ërinacëus amurënsis) • (yo?); 01:00, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
- That would be useful; are there any template-makers-for-hire available? Olessi 22:45, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
OK, I drafted the {{Audio-ru}} template, which is for Russian only. To use it, type:
{{Audio-ru|Правдинск|RU-Pravdinsk.ogg}}
which produces:
Russian:
To make a similar template for any other language, just copy the template source to an appropriate place and replace of instances of "Russian" with the name of the language you need (e.g., "German"), and all instances of "ru" with that language's code (e.g., "de"). Hope this helps.—Ëzhiki (ërinacëus amurënsis) • (yo?); 15:35, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
Great work, Ëzhiki! I have already made Template:Audio-de, Template:Audio-pl, and Template:Audio-uk. Olessi 19:34, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
- Seconded here. This seems to work well and is an improvement over the previous fudges; nice one! Fancy a shot, guys, at (perhaps) the ultimate template, which removes the need for separate templates for each language? Well...
- How about a template such as {{Audio-lang|xx|word/phrase|audiofile}} where xx is the two-letter language identifier causing the correct
[[''X'' language|''X'']]
or[[''X''ian]]
and html tags to be substituted? I can only think of using something like#if
(about which I currently know little) to select the correct language... which ultimately might make the template unwieldy (too many languages) – but perhaps you (or someone you know) might know a much neater solution... Thanks for your work, David Kernow 22:05, 25 April 2006 (UTC)- You are welcome. As for the universal template, that's actually what my original intent was this morning. Almost immediately I ran into some problems (like I said before, I'm not very strong on templates, especially nested and with conditional operators) and then tons of work walked up to my desk in real life, so I didn't have much time left for anything more than individual language-specific templates. Also, last time I checked templates with conditional ops were strongly discouraged; I'd recommend contacting Netoholic for current status update—he used to be very active in hunting those templates down and shooting them on sight. In any case you'll need to find someone more skillful than me to make such a template a reality—there were some perks I have no idea how to approach.—Ëzhiki (ërinacëus amurënsis) • (yo?); 22:19, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
- I'm not surprised templates with conditionals are to be avoided; they probably add far too much processing time for what they deliver. There'll probably only be so many {{Audio-xx}} needed anyway and once the major examples have been created (as Russian, German, Polish, etc already have been) the flood will subside. Might be useful to noinclude this in each. Best wishes, David Kernow 23:57, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
- You are welcome. As for the universal template, that's actually what my original intent was this morning. Almost immediately I ran into some problems (like I said before, I'm not very strong on templates, especially nested and with conditional operators) and then tons of work walked up to my desk in real life, so I didn't have much time left for anything more than individual language-specific templates. Also, last time I checked templates with conditional ops were strongly discouraged; I'd recommend contacting Netoholic for current status update—he used to be very active in hunting those templates down and shooting them on sight. In any case you'll need to find someone more skillful than me to make such a template a reality—there were some perks I have no idea how to approach.—Ëzhiki (ërinacëus amurënsis) • (yo?); 22:19, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
where are you?
Category:Wikipedians by number of edits Toby / Tobias Conradi (Talk) 00:37, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Yeah, I saw that cat, but I will not list myself there as I'm trying to get a hold of my (already bad) editcountitis. If you are interested in my edit count, it's around 12K; that info is on my userpage. Why are you interested? P.S. Toby??!!—Ëzhiki (ërinacëus amurënsis) • (yo?); 18:07, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- it is WP:POINT if Tobias calls Tobias Toby. Toby just wanted to let you know that the cat exists. He thinks adding you to the cat would not encourage edit countities. Especially if you have the data on your user page anyway. Tobias whishes you a nice week. Tobias Conradi (Talk) 01:14, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
Awesome :) Renata 03:40, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
Thanks!—Ëzhiki (ërinacëus amurënsis) • (yo?); 11:51, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
Easter greetings
- I don't celebrate Easter, but thanks for the gesture! Happy Easter to you too.—Ëzhiki (ërinacëus amurënsis) • (yo?); 14:45, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
Deleted bios
You deleted my bios on Moskovskyy Pyasatel. The people are real and are notable as they are prime ministers or leaders of the village.Abc85 11:07, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
- Would you cut it out, please? The joke is getting stale, not to mention your bio-articles did not meet Wikipedia's notability criteria. If you insist on inclusion, please provide references which would allow us to see that these people are notable. Same goes for other "пясатель"-related materials you wrote.—Ëzhiki (ërinacëus amurënsis) • (yo?); 11:57, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
- This was not at all intended to be a joke, neither vandalism. The village has a leader elected every two years and a prime minister appointed by the leader. It has two main affiliations: liberal and conservative. Currently, the librals are at power. Lots of famous people live in the village. (e.g. Thompson.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Abc85 (talk • contribs) .
- Please provide primary references, preferrably from reliable sources. According to Wikipedia's policies, it is your responsibility to prove that the information you are adding is true. Thank you.—Ëzhiki (ërinacëus amurënsis) • (yo?); 14:40, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
- This was not at all intended to be a joke, neither vandalism. The village has a leader elected every two years and a prime minister appointed by the leader. It has two main affiliations: liberal and conservative. Currently, the librals are at power. Lots of famous people live in the village. (e.g. Thompson.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Abc85 (talk • contribs) .
Райцентр
Привет! Или я ошибаюсь, или же.. в википедии нет статьи про такое понятие как Райцентр. --Untifler 15:37, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
- Привет! Нет, не ошибаешься. Могу порадовать тем, что этот термин находится в моём to-do, сразу после статьи под рабочим названием "Статус города в Российской Федерации". Задержка только с тем, что необходимо сначала закончить серию про "Administrative divisions of xxx", потому что и критерии статуса города, и критерии райцентра определяются субъектами Федерации независимо друг от друга, т.е. определений райцентра будет 88, по числу субъектов (определения, правда, могут совпадать). Примитивный стаб нарисовать, конечно, можно в любое время, но ценность такого стаба мне представляется сомнительной. А ты к чему хотел это определение прикрутить?—Ëzhiki (ërinacëus amurënsis) • (yo?); 15:44, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
- Как обычно началось всё издалека. Просто кто-то в статье про нагайбаков назвал населённый пункт Париж, который вроде как проходит как село, the biggest city in the district. Ну, видимо жителям стран, где в городах живет и по 100, и по 300 человек было впринципе не понятно, как деревя может быть центром чего-либо... ну подумал как более корректно. Вспомнил, что у нас, в Татарстане словом райцентр (а не село!) жители промеж себя называют очень большие села (по 10000 жителей), которые являются центром района. Если же центром района является посёлок - то его так и называют посёлок. В ощем-то справедливо, т.к. жизнь в райцентровых сёлах сильно отличается от жизни маленьких деревень, это даже не совсем сельская местность... Во многих райцентрах у нас хрущевки стоят... Ну так вот. пролучается какая-то неофициальная категория. А в стабе про нее может быть можно привести статистику по численности населения райцентров всреднем по России? например, какой населённый пункт обычно становится райценром... о том что все органы власи, здравоохранения и т.д. обычно сосредоточены в нем.... --Untifler 09:10, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
- Категория, вообще, вполне "официальная". Важен ведь статус административного центра, а не то, как населённый пункт называют местные жители и село ли это, посёлок или город. Есть районы, у районов есть районные центры — ничего затруднительного. Что касается конкретного определения статуса райцентра, то он различен в разных субъектах Федерации. Статистику по населению собрать очень легко — это всё доступно в результатах переписи 2002 г. В общем, когда-нибудь я за это возьмусь, но вряд ли скоро, так что если есть желание начать самостоятельно, то у меня возражений нет. Единственное, что не хотелось бы, чтобы такая статья была только про специфику Татарстана — тему можно развернуть гораздо шире.—Ëzhiki (ërinacëus amurënsis) • (yo?); 14:00, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
- Как обычно началось всё издалека. Просто кто-то в статье про нагайбаков назвал населённый пункт Париж, который вроде как проходит как село, the biggest city in the district. Ну, видимо жителям стран, где в городах живет и по 100, и по 300 человек было впринципе не понятно, как деревя может быть центром чего-либо... ну подумал как более корректно. Вспомнил, что у нас, в Татарстане словом райцентр (а не село!) жители промеж себя называют очень большие села (по 10000 жителей), которые являются центром района. Если же центром района является посёлок - то его так и называют посёлок. В ощем-то справедливо, т.к. жизнь в райцентровых сёлах сильно отличается от жизни маленьких деревень, это даже не совсем сельская местность... Во многих райцентрах у нас хрущевки стоят... Ну так вот. пролучается какая-то неофициальная категория. А в стабе про нее может быть можно привести статистику по численности населения райцентров всреднем по России? например, какой населённый пункт обычно становится райценром... о том что все органы власи, здравоохранения и т.д. обычно сосредоточены в нем.... --Untifler 09:10, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
Why you don't upload it to commons? It will be very usefull and in other language chapters... Sory for my broken enlish. --Morpheios Melas 06:12, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
- I am not a member of this commons, but you have my permission to upload any of my pictures to this commons with a GFDL license. I am the photographer and I say you can. --Kaspersky Trust 15:45, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
- Creating an account on Commons is just as simple as creating it here in Wikipedia. All you need is a username and password; you can add your email, but that's optional. It is, of course, up to you to decide, but you may very well find later that a Commons account is beneficial to you, even if you access it very infrequently. As for uploading pictures, it's always better when a photographer uploads and tags them himself—it saves a bit of time for others as there is one less step to verify. If you still positively do not want your own account there, then, of course, we'll be glad to upload the photo for you. Thanks much for releasing the rights for it. Cheers!—Ëzhiki (ërinacëus amurënsis) • (yo?); 15:54, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
- This commons is a place I choose not to be a part of because of a general distrust involving the managers. You are welcome to copy any or all of my pictures there with a GFDL license, but I will not be a party to it. --Kaspersky Trust 16:15, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
- I understand. Thanks for getting back with me. I'll upload the image.—Ëzhiki (ërinacëus amurënsis) • (yo?); 16:16, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
- This commons is a place I choose not to be a part of because of a general distrust involving the managers. You are welcome to copy any or all of my pictures there with a GFDL license, but I will not be a party to it. --Kaspersky Trust 16:15, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
- Creating an account on Commons is just as simple as creating it here in Wikipedia. All you need is a username and password; you can add your email, but that's optional. It is, of course, up to you to decide, but you may very well find later that a Commons account is beneficial to you, even if you access it very infrequently. As for uploading pictures, it's always better when a photographer uploads and tags them himself—it saves a bit of time for others as there is one less step to verify. If you still positively do not want your own account there, then, of course, we'll be glad to upload the photo for you. Thanks much for releasing the rights for it. Cheers!—Ëzhiki (ërinacëus amurënsis) • (yo?); 15:54, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
Oleg of Chernigov
I think AndriyK just got himself a sock [3]. --Kuban Cossack 16:57, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
- Wrong again. This is my account. You wanted me to open an account. So here it is.
- Well makes little difference. You get an account and the first thing you do is...repeat AndriyKs biggest crime of page moves. Поздравляю. --Kuban Cossack 18:26, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
- Ezhiki, you gave Kuban a credit unbloking him for uncivility. But let me bring to your attention that he is continuing his practice of insulting others blaming them for "open facism", little brains, etc, etc. It cannot be tolerated. KPbIC 18:15, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
- And Rydel is a racist, if one reads his blog or his website then anyone with any civil logic will see this (and if they don't then their amount of brain cells is under question). So I take NO shame in using either of those words. --Kuban Cossack 18:29, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
- You should if only for a reason of maintaining positive wiki-spirit.—Ëzhiki (ërinacëus amurënsis) • (yo?); 21:48, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
- And Rydel is a racist, if one reads his blog or his website then anyone with any civil logic will see this (and if they don't then their amount of brain cells is under question). So I take NO shame in using either of those words. --Kuban Cossack 18:29, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
I don't much believe in blocks for incivility and normally do not block people for that. I also don't quite understand why Kuban Cossack's behavior is such a big deal for you, KPbIC; you weren't even targeted. Apart from instant momentary gratification, incivility provides no benefits. In general, if someone is uncivil, it only shows that person cannot exersise proper self-control and is probably an oafish boor in real life. It is so much easier to make a case against such people and to not take their claims and opinions seriously—they unsuspectingly hand you all the weapons. In future, if you feel someone's incivility is out of control, please report such a person at WP:AN/I, or file an RfM/RfC/RfAr instead of soliciting random admins personally. I have no desire whatsoever to host petty bickering on my talk page—I have an encyclopedia to work on.—Ëzhiki (ërinacëus amurënsis) • (yo?); 21:48, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
- Ëzhiki, to clarify a few moments, first, I was editing under my IP(134.84.etc) for the last few months, and recently opened this account. Second, exactly as you are suggesting, once I reported Kuban kazak's insults to WP:AN/I, and he was banned. Third, you unblocked him [4] and that was the reason I brough the update on Kuban's behaviour to your attention . I wonder, if you were called "дебил", "козел" и "дурень" by Kuban kazak or anyone else, would it affect your view on blocks for incivility or not. Finally, as Kuban wrote right above he takes "NO shame in using either of those words". Given such Kuban's permanent attitude, which indicates the lack of improvement I think it's a mistake for the community to tolerate it further. Best, KPbIC 06:40, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
- Lets just get the facts straight. K.K. has been at times uncivil. He has been reprimanded for that and not once, including by myself (also not once) even though none of his insults were directed towards me, ever. He has been blocked for that too and I had no objection until he was blocked for the old offence by Miborovsky for the second time after the original punishment block expired. Only because getting blocked twice for the same offense is unfair, I interfered at the time and so did Ezhiki, I beleive.
- Ëzhiki, to clarify a few moments, first, I was editing under my IP(134.84.etc) for the last few months, and recently opened this account. Second, exactly as you are suggesting, once I reported Kuban kazak's insults to WP:AN/I, and he was banned. Third, you unblocked him [4] and that was the reason I brough the update on Kuban's behaviour to your attention . I wonder, if you were called "дебил", "козел" и "дурень" by Kuban kazak or anyone else, would it affect your view on blocks for incivility or not. Finally, as Kuban wrote right above he takes "NO shame in using either of those words". Given such Kuban's permanent attitude, which indicates the lack of improvement I think it's a mistake for the community to tolerate it further. Best, KPbIC 06:40, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
- 134, please leave moderation of Kazak to myself and Ezhiki, not because you are not allowed to tell him to be civil, but because the distribution of duties, I propose has a better chance to work. May I suggest, that you, in turn, handle the incivility of user:Ukrained, user:AlexPU and user:AndriyK. I have a feeling that such a distribution of duties would better help achieve the common good. In no way my proposal prevents you from filing an RfC and/or ArbCom and/or WP:ANI against anyone as you see fit. Besides, I see AndriyK in trouble now. He was explicitely prohibited from moving pages like he just did. "AndriyK is prohibited from moving pages, or changing the content of articles which relate to Ukrainian names, especially those of historical interest."... "Should AndriyK move any page or change the content of any article to conform with his preferred usage before an agreement is reached as to a naming convention concerning historical Russian names and places he may be briefly blocked, up to a week in the case of repeat offenses. After 5 blocks the maximum block shall be increased to one year." Please don't help him moving pages. Besides, Oleg I of Cherni..whatever is just a nonsense name. --Irpen 07:54, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
- Dear Irpen, please do not misinform the community. Read carefully the decission of ArbCom: "AndriyK is prohibited from moving pages, or changing the content of articles which relate to Ukrainian names". How the Roman numeral "I" is related to Ukrainian names? I added "I" to the title of the article: "Oleg of Chernihiv" -> "Oleg I of Chernihiv" in complete conformance with Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(names_and_titles)#Monarchical_titles. The reason is explained in the comment of the move. --AndriyK 08:12, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
- Irpen, let's give it a try.
- Commenting AndriyK's page move, in the end all he did was adding "I" to the name of the article. Actually, Kuban kazak's page move on the same article today was controversial; AndriyJ's page move was not. Also, you called "Oleg I of Chernihiv" as a nonsense, but in fact this is what the name convention prescribes (as it follows from the wlink provided by AndriyK, which I checked). "Edward I of England" and "Henry I of France" are given there as examples. Again, in the end, it looks like AndriyK has better knowledge on the subject. Do you want to penalize him for just that? As a community we better use his knowledge. Your reminder for him on ArbCom decision here and on article talk page was sufficient enough. KPbIC 11:01, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
Wow, the whole shebang is here! Anyway, even though it's a bit late as the discussion developed beyond this point, I'd like to add that just like Irpen noted, I did not unblock Kuban Cossack because I thought his behavior was not in violation of WP:CIV. I unblocked him because he was blocked twice for the same offense, and because the amount of time that passed between Cossack's last contribution and his block effectively rendered the block useless. As a reminder—uncivility blocks are mainly used to get a party cool down during a particulary heated debate. This is not a punishment, but rather a time-out tool. Of course, a time-out six hours after the incident is pretty much meaningless.
To answer KPbIC's other question—no, I was never called any of those words by Kuban Cossack or any other editor, but I can assure you that if I had been, I would have just reminded the offender about the civility guidelines and shrugged that off. I really don't care what other editors think of me personally, and I certainly would not block (or request a block of) anyone who would call me an idiot or anything along those lines. I realize that others may not take personal insults as lightly as I do, though. Hopefully I was able to explain my attitude, but feel free to let me know if you have further questions.—Ëzhiki (ërinacëus amurënsis) • (yo?); 14:28, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
Question
Hi there, Ezhiki! I noticed that in your articles about administrative divisions of oblasts the tables say "сельские населённые пункты без населения". Are these ghost towns? Why does it sound so weird "населённый пункт без населения"? I'm sure this is an official формулировка, but could you clarify this for me, since you're so into it? This is just my curiosity :). Thanx and keep up the good work! KNewman 07:42, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
- No, these are not ghost towns, not officially, anyway. This particular term (with this exact weird wording) comes from the 2002 Census results. As you probably know, all Russian federal subjects maintain some form of a registry that lists all administrative divisions and settlements. These registries are used for many purposes, Census being one of them. One of the Census questions is about the individual's primary residence. Those residences are mapped to the inhabited localities from the federal subjects' registries. Sometimes, it turns out that no one claimed residence in some of the settlements which are listed in those registries. This may be for various reasons—perhaps people in such settlements evaded Census on purpose or missed it accidentally (think of a khutor of five people, all of whom went hunting to taiga during the Census week :)), perhaps the Census methods had been flawed, or it might have been as simple as a data entry error, or perhaps the settlement was indeed abandonded or died out. In any case, there were some settlements that were listed as active in the registries (so, officially they were not ghost towns), but no one claimed primary residence there. Theoretically, these cases are investigated, and, if there indeed is no population, the settlements are abolished and removed from the registry, at which time one can categorize them as ghost towns. In practice, well, you know... it's Russia. Hope this answers your question.—Ëzhiki (ërinacëus amurënsis) • (yo?); 14:44, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks a lot! This was very informative. Will be waiting for the next oblast of yours :). KNewman 16:47, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
Privet, Ēzhik, I noticed you made an edit to Bratva. What do you say we merge it to Russian Mafia? - CrazyRussian talk/contribs/email 19:52, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
- Hi there. The topic does not fascinate me a bit, but a merger seems logical (if you want me to vote somewhere regarding this, just point me to the right place). The only reason I edited this article was a chain reaction caused by creation of Solntsevo disambiguation page.—Ëzhiki (ërinacëus amurënsis) • (yo?); 19:56, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
Rat, yozhik
Actually it is Bonny who you have to thank, that is the inspiration: [5]. I thought it was too well done not to forget it... --Kuban Cossack 22:48, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
- Didn't know that. Bonny is funny on occasion, really.—Ëzhiki (ërinacëus amurënsis) • (yo?); 04:37, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
Our friend's POV
- CCed to a small number of users
The Wilno Uprising nasty conflict needs more attention, if you please. Also, check talks and edit Histories of Lviv and Battle of the Lower Dnieper. This may take time though.
I would like to request some attention at Russian, Ukrainian, Polish and Baltic portals, re Vilnius issue but for now, I am requesting the attention of several editors who've could quickly inderstand what the problem is. --Irpen 02:45, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
KGB
I have joined Commons, as you suggested, and I have uploaded more pictures of Vladivostok. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Kaspersky_%D0%94%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B5
Also, I did a gamma correction on this picture: File:Vladivostok station.jpg
Please inform, is Wikipedia supposed to be transparent, or is it normal to be forced to resolve disputes by email? I would like to know why I am blocked, but nobody will tell me. For two weeks, I have been asking the simple question, "How have I offended?" Nobody will give me an answer. pgk keeps deleting my {{unblock}} request, telling me to contact the person who blocked me by email. As someone who has lived in Communist Russia, this suggestion sounds to me like meeting the KGB in private to ask why I have been targeted. Can't we do things out in the open? --Kaspersky Trust 22:18, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
- Great pictures, thanks!
- Regarding your blocks—it all looks like a huge misunderstanding to me. You were blocked by Jayjg on April 25 as he suspected you were a sockpuppet of Zephram Stark. He unblocked you two minutes later, probably realizing that there was really no proof that you were a sockpuppet. Unfortunately, it looks that you had been logged in and editing during those two minutes, so your IP was blocked by the system as well (it's called "autoblock").
- I have just removed a few autoblocks tied to your username; please try editing one more time (anywhere but your talk page, which is protected). If you still cannot, please email me using the "E-mail this user" link on my userpage. By the way, the only reason it was suggested that you email your blocker was because it was the only legit way for you as a blocked user to contact anyone. It certainly does not mean you were supposed to negotiate under the table—Wikipedia is supposed to be transparent.
- Anyway, I left messages to both Pgk and Jayjg, asking to re-check your block history and remove any autoblocks I might have missed (hopefully, I have not). I am willing to take full responsibility for you as I believe you are just a victim of a misunderstanding. Please be assured that this is just an unfortunate incident; Wikipedians are generally very welcoming and willing to help.—Ëzhiki (ërinacëus amurënsis) • (yo?); 02:13, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
- Thank you so much for taking the time to have me reinstated. I am convinced that without you, I would have never been unblocked. I wonder how many other people are in this position, but do not have a guardian angel like you to help them. --Kaspersky Trust 15:59, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
- You are welcome. I am hardly an angel, but was happy to help out. Please be assured that what happened to you was by no means normal—it's just a series of unfortunate events. Newcomers are always welcome to Wikipedia and are provided assistance when needed. I hope this whole experience did not tar your perception of Wikipedia as a whole. Feel free to let me know if you need anything or have questions—I'll be glad to help. Happy editing!—Ëzhiki (ërinacëus amurënsis) • (yo?); 17:45, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
- Thank you so much for taking the time to have me reinstated. I am convinced that without you, I would have never been unblocked. I wonder how many other people are in this position, but do not have a guardian angel like you to help them. --Kaspersky Trust 15:59, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
Kaspersky Trust
Thanks for the information. I'm now somewhat confused, since I always look at the block log to check the situation when looking at unblock requests (e.g. history of blocks, are they currently blocked etc.), So I can't see how I missed the unblock. I'll make my own apologies. If you want to check for autoblocks you can take a look at http://tools.wikimedia.de/~pgk/autoblock.php which is slightly easier to search on but only updates every few minutes. Any autoblock in the last 24 hours could still be in effect. --pgk(talk) 08:39, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
- I notice you also only removed the proection tag, but not the protection itself. That is done now. --pgk(talk) 08:44, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
- Hi Ezhiki, Thanks for unblocking Kaspersky Trust. You have just shown me that there is another good admin on Wiki. in peace and harmony, Maggiethewolfstar 17:04, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
- You are welcome and thanks.—Ëzhiki (ërinacëus amurënsis) • (yo?); 17:45, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
- Hi Ezhiki, Thanks for unblocking Kaspersky Trust. You have just shown me that there is another good admin on Wiki. in peace and harmony, Maggiethewolfstar 17:04, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, I'm going to have to re-block. He's a sockpuppet of Zephram Stark. Jayjg (talk) 20:57, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
- I would be interested to see the proof, please. Thanks.—Ëzhiki (ërinacëus amurënsis) • (yo?); 21:02, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
ru:Муниципальная реформа в России(2006)
Interesting article - ru:Википедия:Проект:Муниципальные образования.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ochkarik (talk • contribs) .
- Thanks. I'll take a look.—Ëzhiki (ërinacëus amurënsis) • (yo?); 12:03, 2 May 2006 (UTC)