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--[[User:NeilN|<b style="color:navy">Neil<span style="color:red">N</span></b>]] <sup>[[User talk:NeilN|<i style="color:blue">talk to me</i>]]</sup> 02:43, 13 April 2018 (UTC) |
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:{{ping|NeilN}} Are you going to wait for my rebuttal before making a move like this? [[User:EtienneDolet|Étienne Dolet]] ([[User talk:EtienneDolet#top|talk]]) 02:42, 13 April 2018 (UTC) |
:{{ping|NeilN}} Are you going to wait for my rebuttal before making a move like this? [[User:EtienneDolet|Étienne Dolet]] ([[User talk:EtienneDolet#top|talk]]) 02:42, 13 April 2018 (UTC) |
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If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, you may be blocked from editing. Akocsg (talk) 01:25, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
See talk page of the article Turkey. Akocsg (talk) 01:25, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
Your AA2 Violations
Hi EtienneDolet, I am here just to warn you about the fact that you violated WP:AA2 in several articles ([1], [2], [3], [4] after your final warning here (I was warned as well). I am not looking for further confrontations and willing to cooperate in Khanasor Expedition and other pages. Consider this as a friendly reminder and please refrain from disruptive editing. Regards --Abbatai 09:53, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
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I can't tell you what you ask.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:06, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
- @Bbb23: Okay, simplified it in another e-mail. Étienne Dolet (talk) 18:28, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
Armenian Genocide to good article
I know we disagreed on the recent RFC about the Armenian genocide, but I still want to thank you for remaining civil and respecting the process. I think we share the goal of getting the article thought GA review and I look forward to collaborating with you in the future. BillHPike (talk, contribs) 22:03, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
- @Billhpike: If nominating GA is what you're going to do, then I suggest to look into the last GA nomination. Frankly, I was highly disheartened by the fact that it was nominated by a user who did not do one bit to help resolve the issues raised by the GA reviewer. I stepped and tried my best to fix the problems and was nearing the finish line when I had to go on a very long break. As you can see by that GA nomination, the article is pretty much in GA shape already. The lead was the only obstacle from gaining that status. It had to be elongated or something. You can ask Jclemens (don't want to ping him just yet) if he's willing to look into it again. He's an excellent editor and one who already knows the article pretty well. As for me, I'm almost maxed out of energy trying to maintain the article and picking up everybody else's slack. I am willing to help out only if you're leading the charge. To be more specific, I can help you if you need some help regarding sources and point to some really important consensus discussions we've had over the 10 somewhat years that I've been editing the article. Étienne Dolet (talk) 00:59, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
Anatolia
Yes, Muş is in Anatolia - Anatolia means the Asian part of Turkey. That is why hundreds of reliable sources use it [5]. You can look this up in a dictionary, it's not controversial. I am considering posting this to the WP:FRINGE noticeboard if it keeps coming up, especially on article talk pages. You are insisting on a historical meaning, that is not widely in use, just because you prefer it. The majority of WP:RS call it Anatolia. If you wrote this in a blog, I might be interested in reading it, but ranting about it in unrelated discussions and telling editors they have been misled by Turkish state-sponsored propaganda
is not conducive to collaboratively improving an article. Seraphim System (talk) 08:16, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
- Why are you moving goal posts? Whoever said anything about Muş anyways? Étienne Dolet (talk) 08:22, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
- Moving goal posts? What does arguing about Armenia have to do with improving the particular sentence that was the topic of discussion which is
In the latter half of the 11th century, the Seljuk Turks began penetrating into medieval Armenia and the eastern regions of Anatolia. In 1071, the Seljuks defeated the Byzantines at the Battle of Manzikert, starting the Turkification process in the area; the Turkish language and Islam were introduced to Armenia and Anatolia, gradually spreading throughout the region. The slow transition from a predominantly Christian and Greek-speaking Anatolia to a predominantly Muslim and Turkish-speaking one was underway.
- you can't insist that Anatolia means someting other than what the source means by it, which is why the reliable sources that are cited need to verify the text, especially on a difficult historical topic like this with such a challenging histiography, where different sources use the words in different meanings. The first issue is posting the correct sources, and then there can be a discussion. It also helps to find some sources that are accessible if material is being challenged, for the purposes of having a coherent discussion.Seraphim System (talk) 08:32, 10 February 2018 (UTC)- You raised the issue of Armenia, not me. So I responded by saying Armenia is not in Anatolia. None of the sources you point show that Armenia is in Anatolia because quite frankly, there are no such sources. So please just WP:DROPIT already. Étienne Dolet (talk) 18:27, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
- I really want you to understand what this dispute is about so I will try to explain one more time: there are sources that I posted that discuss the Armenians role at Manzikert and during the Seljuk period. Armenians are not part of the nationalist Turkish literature - but these texts have had a lasting influence in the field. Fortunately in 2018 we have sources to support updating, or at least qualifying, so I am trying to understand why you don't want to update - is it because Armenia is not in Anatolia? Here is another source [6] - consensus discussions aren't just a tally of editors unsourced opinions, you do have to be willing to have civil discussion about sources, not insist that the majority of sources support your POV (without posting them). Are you willing to do that? - discuss just the sources and not your own POV in future discussions? Here is another source [7] The sourcing for this is overwhelming and very high quality. I will give you some time to think about it before opening a discussion on talk but I think it would help if you could just stick to discussing the sources. Seraphim System (talk) 12:14, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
- You raised the issue of Armenia, not me. So I responded by saying Armenia is not in Anatolia. None of the sources you point show that Armenia is in Anatolia because quite frankly, there are no such sources. So please just WP:DROPIT already. Étienne Dolet (talk) 18:27, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
- Moving goal posts? What does arguing about Armenia have to do with improving the particular sentence that was the topic of discussion which is
Barnstar
I forgot to reply regarding this and sorry about that. Just wanted to say thank you for the barnstar! :)
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Re: Atamian
He was a French citizen at his death, so I assume their copyright laws apply. As of 7/30/2017 he had been dead for 70 years so, his works became public domain on 1/1/2018. Happy gallery! WQUlrich (talk) 20:06, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Barnstar of Diligence | |
NPOV is possible if we all work for it!!! GPRamirez5 (talk) 12:42, 24 March 2018 (UTC) |
Precious three years!
Three years! |
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--NeilN talk to me 02:43, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
- @NeilN: Are you going to wait for my rebuttal before making a move like this? Étienne Dolet (talk) 02:42, 13 April 2018 (UTC)