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An article you recently created, [[Draft:Lothar Abel|Lothar Abel]], is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more in-depth coverage about the subject itself, with citations from [[WP:RS|reliable]], [[WP:IS|independent sources]] in order to show it meets [[WP:GNG]]. It should have at least three. And please remember that interviews, as primary sources, do not count towards GNG.<small>([[WP:42|?]])</small> Information that can't be referenced should be removed ([[WP:V|verifiability]] is of [[WP:5|central importance]] on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to [[Wikipedia:Draftspace|draftspace]] (with a prefix of "<code>Draft:</code>" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's [[WP:GNG|general notability guideline]] and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page.[[User:onel5969|'''<span style="color:#536895;">Onel</span><span style="color:#ffb300;">5969</span>''']] <sup>[[User talk:Onel5969|<i style="color:blue">TT me</i>]]</sup> 14:43, 7 January 2023 (UTC) |
An article you recently created, [[Draft:Lothar Abel|Lothar Abel]], is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more in-depth coverage about the subject itself, with citations from [[WP:RS|reliable]], [[WP:IS|independent sources]] in order to show it meets [[WP:GNG]]. It should have at least three. And please remember that interviews, as primary sources, do not count towards GNG.<small>([[WP:42|?]])</small> Information that can't be referenced should be removed ([[WP:V|verifiability]] is of [[WP:5|central importance]] on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to [[Wikipedia:Draftspace|draftspace]] (with a prefix of "<code>Draft:</code>" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's [[WP:GNG|general notability guideline]] and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page.[[User:onel5969|'''<span style="color:#536895;">Onel</span><span style="color:#ffb300;">5969</span>''']] <sup>[[User talk:Onel5969|<i style="color:blue">TT me</i>]]</sup> 14:43, 7 January 2023 (UTC) |
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: {{re|Onel5969}} I thought he qualified on artist grounds that many of his gardens remain as important national monuments today, and also possibly on influence/author grounds on account of his publications still being widely available more than 120 years after their publication (which suggests lasting impact in his field), and the Musée d'Orsay considering him a sufficiently important figure to be in their database, but I understand entirely that he's probably pretty insignificant so I've added a speedy deletion tag. [[User:Elemimele|Elemimele]] ([[User talk:Elemimele#top|talk]]) 15:07, 7 January 2023 (UTC) |
: {{re|Onel5969}} I thought he qualified on artist grounds that many of his gardens remain as important national monuments today, and also possibly on influence/author grounds on account of his publications still being widely available more than 120 years after their publication (which suggests lasting impact in his field), and the Musée d'Orsay considering him a sufficiently important figure to be in their database, but I understand entirely that he's probably pretty insignificant so I've added a speedy deletion tag. [[User:Elemimele|Elemimele]] ([[User talk:Elemimele#top|talk]]) 15:07, 7 January 2023 (UTC) |
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==Would You please cast your opinions in those deletion discussions as well?== |
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Both of these articles are well sourced, but faces the wrath of some wikipedians because they want a reference for every single song for almost 1000+ songs which is very unfair. Would you please support those rich articles? |
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/List_of_Malayalam_songs_recorded_by_P._Susheela |
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/List_of_Malayalam_songs_recorded_by_K._J._Yesudas |
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/List_of_Malayalam_songs_recorded_by_S._Janaki |
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[[User:Abbasulu|Abbasulu]] ([[User talk:Abbasulu|talk]]) 14:54, 16 January 2023 (UTC) |
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== A barnstar for you! == |
== A barnstar for you! == |
Revision as of 18:48, 16 January 2023
Don't let one bad conversation get you down.
We need more editors like you. Thanks for all you've done, and I hope you'll change your mind and decide to stay. Jacona (talk) 15:01, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
- I echo Jacona above, and I'll also add that you aren't obligated to keep contributing to the AfD if you don't want to (it is a lot, to say the least); you're welcome to unwatchlist it and find another bit of encyclopedia to edit. —Danre98(talk^contribs) 15:55, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you, both; it's not just one bad conversation, it's more that I've been questioning my faith in the WP project over the last months, and this has tipped the balance. I am increasingly convinced that there are very few areas of human knowledge that are untainted by human opinion and doubt. Wikipedia, by writing in an encyclopaedic style and hiding the authorship of its articles, is (unwillingly) representing material as far more trustworthy than it is, presenting the individual opinions of those who've written articles as though they were globally true facts. This contrasts with good secondary sources, which are attached honestly to the authors who write them. It's unfortunate that most of our readers believe what they read, without reading any of the sources we cite, which rather undermines the whole concept of having sources. We are encouraging laziness.
- I'm increasingly convinced that the correct way to further human knowledge isn't a free encyclopaedia, it's (1) open access publishing, and (2) the plethora of websites set up by experts under their own names, pages hosted on their university sites, and suchlike. The second category is a weird one, because we at Wikipedia do not trust or use this material. In my view it's often safer to the reader than we are, because it's obviously the product of one traceable person whose expertise can be checked, rather than the product of a hidden person who is claiming expertise that cannot be checked. And it's often written in a far more accessible style (I have a long-running dislike of WP maths pages!).
- All in all, I think most of our readers would be better served if they spent more time on Google and less on Wikipedia.
- I'm going to take an extended Wikibreak and have a think! But thank you for your kindness.
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Doric Loon (talk) 12:35, 29 August 2022 (UTC)@Doric Loon: thank you so much for accepting Altenau palace, doing all the tidying, and putting the redirect in place for Schloss Altenau. I really appreciate it. Elemimele (talk) 14:57, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
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Inreresting discussion over at the Teahouse about the US News list. Your comment made me more confident in mine; I'm still fairly new and not always certain... Thanks! David10244 (talk) 14:13, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
Phil De Luna
I've done my best with a rewrite. Hope this helps. Thanks for the long post on the guideline. I will try to get around to a response, time permitting. Greenbound (talk) 04:16, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
Lothar Abel moved to draftspace
An article you recently created, Lothar Abel, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more in-depth coverage about the subject itself, with citations from reliable, independent sources in order to show it meets WP:GNG. It should have at least three. And please remember that interviews, as primary sources, do not count towards GNG.(?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:
" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page.Onel5969 TT me 14:43, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Onel5969: I thought he qualified on artist grounds that many of his gardens remain as important national monuments today, and also possibly on influence/author grounds on account of his publications still being widely available more than 120 years after their publication (which suggests lasting impact in his field), and the Musée d'Orsay considering him a sufficiently important figure to be in their database, but I understand entirely that he's probably pretty insignificant so I've added a speedy deletion tag. Elemimele (talk) 15:07, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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recently at the tea house. ✌️ It's Keya (talk) 07:27, 8 January 2023 (UTC) |