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Cheers. [[User:François Robere|François Robere]] ([[User talk:François Robere|talk]]) 11:21, 7 July 2021 (UTC) |
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:[[User:François Robere|François Robere]], I guess I should emphasize that I'm definitely not taking requests right now that are gonna depress me! Regards, [[User:El_C|El_C]] 12:07, 7 July 2021 (UTC) |
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If you have the capacity to tremble with indignation every time that an injustice is committed in the world, then we are comrades. – Che.
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For you
El C, contrary to your edit summary- I noticed you were gone, and missed seeing you on recent changes. You are one of my favourite editors. This is for you. Regards, dvdrw 04:34, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
- Yay! Many chipthanks for the kind words. Greatly appreciated. Best, El_C 06:49, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
Well I noticed and missed you! (Official circular here). Novickas (talk) 12:40, 30 September 2008 (UTC) Thought of you while uploading this picture [1]... for all of your work. Novickas (talk) 17:35, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
- Many thanks! El_C 11:27, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
- I'm sort of in a hole and am having difficulties submerging. Speaking of holes/that chippie, I got to do some visiting in its burro recently...
- You look really good in your purple hat! Bishonen | talk 00:19, 4 November 2008 (UTC).
- Free hat! Today, while cheekadeepetting, this lady who saw us from a far, came over and said: "Can I tell you something...? You're an angel of God."(!) To which I of course replied: "All hail Atheismo!" [nah, I said: "thank you, maddam, that's very kind of you" — what else could I say?] I took an especially neat cheekadeepetting photograph today: it remained visible between my thumb and index as it flew away, giving the illusion it was bee-sized! What an unexpected, and sweet, effect! El_C 02:48, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
Wow, Capitano, where do you get a large enough sweater for a person with that hand? Bishonen | talk 20:18, 5 November 2008 (UTC).
- And then there's Skunky! El_C 14:00, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
Oooo. Purdy!
Combine obvious love of animals with photography results in photographic win! — Coren (talk) 15:09, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks! Great to learn that peoples (plural!) like! Chickadee says hi! El_C 14:00, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
Seasons Greetings
- Hello. Thanks, SqueakBox 23:14, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
Thx, everyone! Happy 2009! El_C 12:55, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
Happy Groundhog Day
Happy day! Jehochman Talk 19:52, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
Chippies
El C, I've been meaning to ask for ages. What is the link between revolutionary socialism and chimpunks? Did I miss that bit in Animal Farm? Is it something to do with resting the means of damn making from beavers? --Joopercoopers (talk) 11:39, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
- No link; but are you referring to Groundhog? (see left) There is a Groundhog-Chippie connection, which I was trying to further cultivate (see right). El_C 11:48, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
"Love is in the air ....dooooo .....dooo.dooo ......doooo ......dooo.doooo ." --Joopercoopers (talk) 11:55, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
Well, I'm envious. You get to pet ALL the fuzzeh creatures! — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 01:40, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
Book?
Let me know when it is out, and you will up your sales by one. :-) KillerChihuahua?!? 09:22, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
1. Four Facets of existence: 1. Matter 2. Energy 3. Space 4. Time
2. Four Dimensions: 1. 1D 2. 2D 3. 3D 4. 4D (temporal)
3. Four Fundamental interactions: 1. Strong 2. EM 3. Weak 4. Gravity
4. Four States of matter: 1. Solid 2. Liquid 3. Gas 4. Plasma
El_C 07:19, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
Rev-dels
Just for information at the moment: are you able to do revision deletions? Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 19:47, 16 May 2019 (UTC)
- Affirmative. El_C 20:46, 16 May 2019 (UTC)
- OK, thanks. There are a couple of admins I usually contact when I see something that needs to deleted, but unfortunately they let real life interfere with their admin duties. You are online a lot at the same times I am, so it's good to have another person to contact if needed. I generally only ask personally if it's both serious and urgent. - BilCat (talk) 02:29, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, by all means. If I'm around, please don't hesitate. El_C 02:30, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
Romania
I can live with your highly arbitrary closing summary of the RfC on the Talk page, so I do not want to persuade you to change it. However, you closed other on-going debates as well. Could you open the other debates? Thank you. Borsoka (talk) 05:57, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
- Ah, the thanks I get! El_C 05:58, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
And all I got was a ^^^
- Talk:And Then There Were None#RfC: And Then There Were None and racial language
- Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Politics#Request for comments on the 'political position' parameter of the political party infobox
- Talk:Romania#RfC
- Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#RfC: HispanTV
- Wikipedia talk:Requests for adminship#Is RfX a vote, or a consensus discussion? (RfC)
- Talk:Civil Rights Act of 1968#Merger of Fair Housing Act and Indian Civil Rights Act of 1968 into this article
- Talk:WikiLeaks#RFC: Murder Of Seth Rich content dispute
- Talk:Athens News#Request for comment
- Talk:SNC-Lavalin affair#RfC: LavScam
- Talk:Christchurch mosque shootings#RfC: Change "white supremacist" to "white nationalist"
El_C 06:06, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
Precious anniversary
Three years! |
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--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:11, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
- Nice. Thanks, Gerda! El_C 08:24, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you. Good day, see? Take music and flowers to your liking ;) - It's great to see your name so often on my watchlist. One area where I often wait for admin action - not now - is WP:ITNN, where we nominate for recent deaths to be shown on th Main page, and often the time between an article found [Ready] and then is [Posted] seems [too] long to still call it recent. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:32, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
- Ah, good ol' ITNC —where I got no credit for being the first to have Posted the Corona virus outbreak, but upon (admittedly, perhaps somewhat prematurely) doing the same for the Kirk Douglas RD got a what-the-fuck-barbeque— it's a magical place! El_C 11:28, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
- I see, sorry for touching some wound ;) - Same for me: last year, I nominated a great pianist for RD, after I first had create an article which took time, and then carried away to also make it decent, - and by then her death was so long ago that she wasn't mentioned at all. The more woman, and the more foreign, that danger seems imminent, and if I may bother you in case I seee it coming again, that would be great. At present, it's a man, listed 20 Feb (although who knows if that was the day?), and nobody even commented yet, so nothing to be concerned about right now. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:27, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
- Hey, by all means, if you feel Peter Dreher is [Ready], let me know so I could do the honours. El_C 12:53, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
- I nominated him, so am not the most independent to judge ;) - and I'm already busy with the next, a woman, but mostly not foreign. - I really think we have some unintended bias there: the most prominent figures (white U.S. males) get speedy attention, and appear soon at the top position, while the female foreigners - often reported late to start with - take so long to even be noticed that they get only a place towards the end, finally, - as long as we go by date of death and not "in at the top". Result: those who are promminent already get preferred showing, more in front, and longer. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:04, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
- Indeed, countering systemic bias is a treacherous mistress — though in the case of Kirk Douglas, I have to admit my own affinity for his admirable work countering the Hollywood blacklist... Anyway, +Peter Dreher to RD. El_C 13:16, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
- I nominated him, so am not the most independent to judge ;) - and I'm already busy with the next, a woman, but mostly not foreign. - I really think we have some unintended bias there: the most prominent figures (white U.S. males) get speedy attention, and appear soon at the top position, while the female foreigners - often reported late to start with - take so long to even be noticed that they get only a place towards the end, finally, - as long as we go by date of death and not "in at the top". Result: those who are promminent already get preferred showing, more in front, and longer. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:04, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
- Hey, by all means, if you feel Peter Dreher is [Ready], let me know so I could do the honours. El_C 12:53, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
- I see, sorry for touching some wound ;) - Same for me: last year, I nominated a great pianist for RD, after I first had create an article which took time, and then carried away to also make it decent, - and by then her death was so long ago that she wasn't mentioned at all. The more woman, and the more foreign, that danger seems imminent, and if I may bother you in case I seee it coming again, that would be great. At present, it's a man, listed 20 Feb (although who knows if that was the day?), and nobody even commented yet, so nothing to be concerned about right now. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:27, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
- Ah, good ol' ITNC —where I got no credit for being the first to have Posted the Corona virus outbreak, but upon (admittedly, perhaps somewhat prematurely) doing the same for the Kirk Douglas RD got a what-the-fuck-barbeque— it's a magical place! El_C 11:28, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you. Good day, see? Take music and flowers to your liking ;) - It's great to see your name so often on my watchlist. One area where I often wait for admin action - not now - is WP:ITNN, where we nominate for recent deaths to be shown on th Main page, and often the time between an article found [Ready] and then is [Posted] seems [too] long to still call it recent. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:32, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
Alte Liebe |
- Thank you, love-ly! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:42, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
- I nominated the poet for ITNN. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:36, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
- At the [Ready]! El_C 14:48, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
- and posted ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:28, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
- That was quick! I helped? El_C 17:33, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
- think so ;) - today's Alte Liebe became especially meaningful after yesterday's funeral. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:21, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
- That was quick! I helped? El_C 17:33, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
- and posted ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:28, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
- At the [Ready]! El_C 14:48, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
Next foreign women RD: Odile Pierre. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:12, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
- @Gerda Arendt: sorry for the belated response — I overlooked your last message. Apologies for not being able to assist with that one. Please don't hesitate to list more. I'll try to be more cognizant of this thread next time, I promise. El_C 03:28, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
Gerda's corner
To help me better remember! El_C 05:10, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
- Gerda’s corner is lovely. When I have more time in my life and can do things beyond blocking socks, I plan to spend time there getting some of the Holy Thursday hymns on the main page. Gerda, if it’s not too late to find one, let me know. The Pange Lingua is always a first choice, but if there are any others you can think of, I’m open. TonyBallioni (talk) 05:26, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
- Also, El C’s talk page is lovely, especially for his hosting my musing about music he likely doesn’t care about one iota! TonyBallioni (talk) 05:28, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
- Actually, I like all kinds of music, including of the eclectic and esoteric variaty — lately I've been Dimashing it up (special thanks goes to Jasmin Ariane!). El_C 05:32, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
- Lovely corner, thank you! Today is The day of music, two choirs singing. I'd like Beati improved - but it's in the evensong, perhaps I'll get to a few more lines. On IWD, I should also get Elinor Ross in better shape ... - but singing comes first. Listen to Beati by voces8, another article needing improvement. Singing comes first ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:41, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
- On the ITNN page, 6 Mar, Carsten Bresch. We will possibly never know when he died, but should use 6 - when the world was informed - as the day by which we go. I may be alone with that view ;) - Lovely lively colours! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:24, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
- Expect the sky to fall at ITNC — posted with Mar 0? (!). El_C 13:34, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for posting, and I added "Posted", but don't want to pass credits. DYK you know that it is as easy as clicking on the words "credit" in the nom? Nice progress on the soprano, but out for singing (alto), second round. A good source for her death would be a nice addition, anyone. this is all Spanish to me, and the English one is a blog. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:04, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
- nom done, and the credits were done by someone else - bedtime --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:19, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
- Sleep tight. El_C 23:27, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
- done also, and she's there - today's topic seem to be errors (3) in the OTD section of the Main page. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:28, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
- Amakuru took care of that! - What should I do about this decline? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:58, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
- If you're confident it's good, I would move it to main namespace nonetheless. El_C 10:07, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
- How about you? - I asked the decliner for reasoning, but got no answer. I think it might be better if it's not a personal thing between them and me, so an independent pair of eyes might help. - I don't go via AfC, nor does my friend LouisAlain, but last year many of his translations were sent to draft space, for lack of refs, just because de and fr have different ideas about referencing. I try to rescue, that's all. Then get a ridiculous template on my talk recommending the Teahouse, and still see the ridiculous decline template recommending to seek help from an experienced editor, - the things we do to voluntary contributors ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:31, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
- Done. Mainspacified. And I didn't even visit the Teahouse! El_C 13:37, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
- pacified ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:26, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for tagging me, El_C! Concerning Dimash: Oh wow, I really didn't expect that! But I'm happy you enjoy it! It's funny, it's not even a genre I usually listen to. But the first time I heard him 2 years ago, I immediately loved his music. I love his voice, his emotional interpretation; and his vocal skill, range and versatility are just enormous. And he seems to be a very nice and humble guy, which makes it even easier to like him. PS: "eclectic and esoteric variety"? Wow, that sounds interesting. Jasmin Ariane (talk) 21:55, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
- ♫ Welcome to the corner, Jasmin! Yes, I love Dimash's Sinful Passion, New Wave, SOS d'un terrien en détresse, Ogni Pietra (Olimpico), Opera 2, and more. Indeed, music-wise, I'm all over the place. Yesterday, I was listening to the Mahavishnu Orchestra, I'm listening to Charlie Byrd right now (because I love bossa nova, above all else), and I'm listening to the China Philharmonic Orchestra in the car currently. So, yeah, all over the place. Welcome, again! ♫ El_C 16:47, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for tagging me, El_C! Concerning Dimash: Oh wow, I really didn't expect that! But I'm happy you enjoy it! It's funny, it's not even a genre I usually listen to. But the first time I heard him 2 years ago, I immediately loved his music. I love his voice, his emotional interpretation; and his vocal skill, range and versatility are just enormous. And he seems to be a very nice and humble guy, which makes it even easier to like him. PS: "eclectic and esoteric variety"? Wow, that sounds interesting. Jasmin Ariane (talk) 21:55, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
- pacified ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:26, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
- Done. Mainspacified. And I didn't even visit the Teahouse! El_C 13:37, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
- How about you? - I asked the decliner for reasoning, but got no answer. I think it might be better if it's not a personal thing between them and me, so an independent pair of eyes might help. - I don't go via AfC, nor does my friend LouisAlain, but last year many of his translations were sent to draft space, for lack of refs, just because de and fr have different ideas about referencing. I try to rescue, that's all. Then get a ridiculous template on my talk recommending the Teahouse, and still see the ridiculous decline template recommending to seek help from an experienced editor, - the things we do to voluntary contributors ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:31, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
- If you're confident it's good, I would move it to main namespace nonetheless. El_C 10:07, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
- Sleep tight. El_C 23:27, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
- Actually, I like all kinds of music, including of the eclectic and esoteric variaty — lately I've been Dimashing it up (special thanks goes to Jasmin Ariane!). El_C 05:32, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
Gerda's February corner
Hellebore |
Want a drink in darkness? - Schloss Freudenberg --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:38, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- Somehow, I don't really see that concept spreading to other bars... Back to out previous conversation, somewhat, a different kind of Green: "MARJORIE TAYLOR GREENE - A Randy Rainbow Song Parody" (just released). El_C 14:51, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- I missed Mathsci for two years. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:14, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- Criss-crossing paths... El_C 15:16, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- BWV 1, concertante violin 1 --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:19, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- That's right, I remember seeing that. El_C 15:24, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- Did you ever click on Reformation on my user page, first occurence? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:02, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, I have clicked on all of the (longstanding) links on your userpage. El_C 16:08, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- I am impressed. ... and follow to what the first 2 had discussed, and used, and then one of them needed it, and probably had known that all the time? ... which was my user page lead until 2021 when I decided people hovering over my name should see a pic I took. The last time I used it was for Cassianto, 24 May 2020. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:51, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- Sure, but otherwise, your userpage isn't easy to parse, due to the fact that you actually use it. I edit mine like once a decade. El_C 18:00, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- I copied that from BarkingMoon including the top icon - a bird on the Main page today --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:07, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- Love it when the Main page gets that much colour. I noticed that article yesterday and thought: wow, those birds are almost as iridescent as Hummingbirds , which are... well, kinda the best! El_C 18:18, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- yes --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:25, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- Opa is now on the Main page, Wilhelm Knabe, who stood up for future with the striking school children when he was in his 90s, - a model, - see here. - Further down on the page, there are conversations about the current arb case request - I feel I have to stay away - in a nutshell: "... will not improve kindness, nor any article". - Yesterday, I made sure on a hike that the flowers are actually blooming ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:13, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- Yay for Green Opa! This made my day! El_C 16:24, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- Today, we have Doris Stockhausen on her 97th birthday ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:34, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
- Yay for Green Opa! This made my day! El_C 16:24, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- Opa is now on the Main page, Wilhelm Knabe, who stood up for future with the striking school children when he was in his 90s, - a model, - see here. - Further down on the page, there are conversations about the current arb case request - I feel I have to stay away - in a nutshell: "... will not improve kindness, nor any article". - Yesterday, I made sure on a hike that the flowers are actually blooming ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:13, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- yes --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:25, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- Love it when the Main page gets that much colour. I noticed that article yesterday and thought: wow, those birds are almost as iridescent as Hummingbirds , which are... well, kinda the best! El_C 18:18, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- I copied that from BarkingMoon including the top icon - a bird on the Main page today --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:07, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- Sure, but otherwise, your userpage isn't easy to parse, due to the fact that you actually use it. I edit mine like once a decade. El_C 18:00, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- I am impressed. ... and follow to what the first 2 had discussed, and used, and then one of them needed it, and probably had known that all the time? ... which was my user page lead until 2021 when I decided people hovering over my name should see a pic I took. The last time I used it was for Cassianto, 24 May 2020. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:51, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, I have clicked on all of the (longstanding) links on your userpage. El_C 16:08, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- Did you ever click on Reformation on my user page, first occurence? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:02, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- That's right, I remember seeing that. El_C 15:24, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- BWV 1, concertante violin 1 --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:19, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- Criss-crossing paths... El_C 15:16, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- I missed Mathsci for two years. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:14, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
Birds of a feather
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Bitter-sweet groove (translation unavailable on request!) |
Spiel nicht mit den Schmuddelkindern ... anticipated protest --- and listen, not to me, but the music (in the article) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:49, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
... and after the music, please listen to User talk:Nikkimaria --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:39, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- I don't understand. There's a YouTube video at the bottom of the page, but it's just some people talking in German (which I don't-Opa-understand) alongside some German folk music (not my cup of tea). Then, you link to Nikkimaria's talk page as an ill with numbers and stuff, but it still only links to their main user talk page. Quite confusing. El_C 13:48, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- entirely my fault, I thought I had the video in the article, but no, only on the talk of Martinevans123, and when I'm absent-minded, I confuse ill and diff, Nikkimaria. But hurray, I just expanded the soprano, sufficiently I hope. Need fresh air now. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:49, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- Sorry, I didn't really like that song. Didn't dislike it either. Was just kinda meh. Personally, I prefer the Israeli children songs I grew up on, like הילדה הכי יפה בגן, for example. El_C 16:08, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- Mr. Degenhardt would have been delighted! Not a song to be liked, - did you read the quote which I translated (improving on Deeple) per the talk request. Song talk about unpleasant smells, ending with a crime and a corpse swimming ... while the surviving grubby children keep singing that you better don't play with them. - Thanks for yours. Did you read my advice for M? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:33, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- I did not. Quoted where? Also, after Opa, I'm afraid to ask, but what's a "Deeple"? Yes, I saw it. Sound advise, but I'm still concerned that further cognizance will nonetheless be needed in order to avoid utter disaster in the future. El_C 16:45, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- my next mistake, DeepL - as you know everything about me you'll know that I am an infobox warrior who had to be restricted by arbcom to prevent utter disaster in the future. For 2 years I was too proud to appeal. I should have known SBHB's advice in the case, but then we might not have gotten to Beethoven ;) - RfC for Ian Fleming, and I stay away, I stay away, I don't play that game any more - please, be never afraid to ask! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:03, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- Matti Caspi laments about how many songs can even be created, but does so in a song he created (כמה שירים אפשר להמציא בכלל), so there you go. Take that, eternity! El_C 17:13, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- Gerda doesn't lament but enjoys the support by Brian, continued when others called her guilty, - always trying to mediate. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:56, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
- Tis the season for bitter-sweet...? Also, trying something (top of section — EEng uncredited mention). El_C 18:45, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
- look --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:34, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
- did you? - interesting bitter-sweet today --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:35, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
- I did in passing, but I just am not in the headspace for riddles today, I'm afraid. But I did like File:Idstein,_Unytsjerke._Oersjoch_ynterieur.jpg. Almost-but-not-quite grand; warm but-not-quite gaudy. Sorry, I haven't heard of that translator before. Did you know her, personally? El_C 23:01, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you. The church pic - as you will have seen - is in my user infobox for 2021. I don't know the singer personally, but she sang for us several times, Bach's great works (all explained if you follow the link, also (below there) that some like to receive my thanks and appreciation), and she sang recently in cantata services that I pictured (her page). On all these pictures, she is too small for "about her", and my lead is smaller "about me", of course. - I knew nothing about the translator, but she was a red link on Deaths in 2021. The bitter-sweetness is between her and her ex-husband, a novelist with an article who wrote her obit. (They had four children when they were divorced, and now he has ten.) - The delegate called me to task for the Bach cantata, so I will have to not follow spontaneous impulses for a few days, - hope no one dies whose article has to be written. In the cantata, BWV 1, I have a problem. The article was all built on one source (and all other Bach cantatas at the time also, btw) which one user denies reliability. I wanted to keep it, supporting it for all facts - only recordings, anyway - by a second source, trying to be faithful to the article history and to retain what editors did before me. He removed it. Quite generally, I have a problem with expansions which ignore what former editors achieved, see BWV 53 and Ian Fleming for recently mentioned examples. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:42, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
- Ah, just read that at: https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/feb/08/dr-vera-wulfing-leckie-obituary — I see what you mean. Right, I knew it (the church) looked familiar. Hope you're able to resolve your BWV 1 problem. I'd offer to help, but I'd probably just mess it up, anyway. El_C 16:55, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
- You will not mess anything up if you look at the old ref and tell me if it looks despicable to you, just for curiosity. The article was like this when I began "taking over". - Did you see this trying to revert a takeover? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:36, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
- It does not look "despicable" to me, but I am far from an authority. This is not an area with which I am familiar. El_C 18:08, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you, helped. I just found this (having searched for Thomanerchor) and look what is bolded, and praised. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:08, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
- It does not look "despicable" to me, but I am far from an authority. This is not an area with which I am familiar. El_C 18:08, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
- You will not mess anything up if you look at the old ref and tell me if it looks despicable to you, just for curiosity. The article was like this when I began "taking over". - Did you see this trying to revert a takeover? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:36, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
- Ah, just read that at: https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/feb/08/dr-vera-wulfing-leckie-obituary — I see what you mean. Right, I knew it (the church) looked familiar. Hope you're able to resolve your BWV 1 problem. I'd offer to help, but I'd probably just mess it up, anyway. El_C 16:55, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you. The church pic - as you will have seen - is in my user infobox for 2021. I don't know the singer personally, but she sang for us several times, Bach's great works (all explained if you follow the link, also (below there) that some like to receive my thanks and appreciation), and she sang recently in cantata services that I pictured (her page). On all these pictures, she is too small for "about her", and my lead is smaller "about me", of course. - I knew nothing about the translator, but she was a red link on Deaths in 2021. The bitter-sweetness is between her and her ex-husband, a novelist with an article who wrote her obit. (They had four children when they were divorced, and now he has ten.) - The delegate called me to task for the Bach cantata, so I will have to not follow spontaneous impulses for a few days, - hope no one dies whose article has to be written. In the cantata, BWV 1, I have a problem. The article was all built on one source (and all other Bach cantatas at the time also, btw) which one user denies reliability. I wanted to keep it, supporting it for all facts - only recordings, anyway - by a second source, trying to be faithful to the article history and to retain what editors did before me. He removed it. Quite generally, I have a problem with expansions which ignore what former editors achieved, see BWV 53 and Ian Fleming for recently mentioned examples. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:42, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
- I did in passing, but I just am not in the headspace for riddles today, I'm afraid. But I did like File:Idstein,_Unytsjerke._Oersjoch_ynterieur.jpg. Almost-but-not-quite grand; warm but-not-quite gaudy. Sorry, I haven't heard of that translator before. Did you know her, personally? El_C 23:01, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
- Tis the season for bitter-sweet...? Also, trying something (top of section — EEng uncredited mention). El_C 18:45, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
- Gerda doesn't lament but enjoys the support by Brian, continued when others called her guilty, - always trying to mediate. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:56, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
- Matti Caspi laments about how many songs can even be created, but does so in a song he created (כמה שירים אפשר להמציא בכלל), so there you go. Take that, eternity! El_C 17:13, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- my next mistake, DeepL - as you know everything about me you'll know that I am an infobox warrior who had to be restricted by arbcom to prevent utter disaster in the future. For 2 years I was too proud to appeal. I should have known SBHB's advice in the case, but then we might not have gotten to Beethoven ;) - RfC for Ian Fleming, and I stay away, I stay away, I don't play that game any more - please, be never afraid to ask! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:03, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- I did not. Quoted where? Also, after Opa, I'm afraid to ask, but what's a "Deeple"? Yes, I saw it. Sound advise, but I'm still concerned that further cognizance will nonetheless be needed in order to avoid utter disaster in the future. El_C 16:45, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- Mr. Degenhardt would have been delighted! Not a song to be liked, - did you read the quote which I translated (improving on Deeple) per the talk request. Song talk about unpleasant smells, ending with a crime and a corpse swimming ... while the surviving grubby children keep singing that you better don't play with them. - Thanks for yours. Did you read my advice for M? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:33, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- Sorry, I didn't really like that song. Didn't dislike it either. Was just kinda meh. Personally, I prefer the Israeli children songs I grew up on, like הילדה הכי יפה בגן, for example. El_C 16:08, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- entirely my fault, I thought I had the video in the article, but no, only on the talk of Martinevans123, and when I'm absent-minded, I confuse ill and diff, Nikkimaria. But hurray, I just expanded the soprano, sufficiently I hope. Need fresh air now. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:49, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
Helleborus orientalis |
happy Valentine's! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:14, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks, for you, too. Did an English translation of a song at User_talk:El_C#Us, btw, and am about to submit another ("US," itself), so check it out! El_C 16:23, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
- adding today's featured picture of February 17 - a nice match to my wild one --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:23, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- Lovely, lovely! El_C 23:24, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- adding today's featured picture of February 17 - a nice match to my wild one --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:23, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
Request to put 2021 storming of the United States Capitol under WP:1RR
@El C: @Octoberwoodland: Continuing this discussion, I'd like to request that 2021 storming of the United States Capitol be put under WP:1RR (I guess that would be Template:American politics AE?). How do I make such a request? Post to WP:AN? Or can an admin (i.e. you :-)) do that without a formal request? — Chrisahn (talk) 23:59, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
- Chrisahn, right, you ask me, here, like so. But can you show that there is a lot of protracted edit warring going on? Because I'm wary of throttling a page that sees that much activity. Not sure why you pinged Octoberwoodland here. They are not an admin, so they do not have the authority to grant your request. El_C 00:09, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
- No, there hasn't been much edit warring. Just like Octoberwoodland, I thought the page was already under 1RR, and I thought it would be useful. But if you'd rather not do it yet, that's fine with me as well. If problems do arise, I'll come back here. But I hope it won't be necessary. :-) (The ping was just because Octoberwoodland started the discussion at Alalch Emis's talk page and might want to chime in here.) — Chrisahn (talk) 00:21, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
- Just understood that moments ago (the ping). Anyway, in general, restrictions are added by need only. The general consensus among admins is to wait and see, and only if needed add 1RR. And if that isn't enough, only then move on to additional enhancements, like Consensus required (i.e. gradual escalation). Regards, El_C 00:28, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for the explanation! These processes are more fine-grained than I thought. Probably a good thing. Although I'm afraid I won't remember the difference between {{ds/editnotice}} and {{ds/talk notice}} a week from now. :-) — Chrisahn (talk) 00:54, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
- Just understood that moments ago (the ping). Anyway, in general, restrictions are added by need only. The general consensus among admins is to wait and see, and only if needed add 1RR. And if that isn't enough, only then move on to additional enhancements, like Consensus required (i.e. gradual escalation). Regards, El_C 00:28, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
- No, there hasn't been much edit warring. Just like Octoberwoodland, I thought the page was already under 1RR, and I thought it would be useful. But if you'd rather not do it yet, that's fine with me as well. If problems do arise, I'll come back here. But I hope it won't be necessary. :-) (The ping was just because Octoberwoodland started the discussion at Alalch Emis's talk page and might want to chime in here.) — Chrisahn (talk) 00:21, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
It is time I knew more about do's and don'ts applicable to infoboxes. Could you let me have the link to any WP that applies to Infoboxes as such? Qexigator (talk) 17:52, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
- Sorry, I'm far from an authority on infoboxes, Qexigator, so short of pointing you to the MOS:INFOBOX-obvious, I would just advise you to avoid WP:ARBINFOBOX2 at all cost! Regards, El_C 18:13, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
- Some users get hot about infoboxes, while for others it's the normal thing to have. Before adding an infobox to an article without one, check for warnings in edit mode, and for discussions on the talk page. Recent example Ian Fleming, nonono. Those who made the article as nice as it is today don't like it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:23, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
- Haha! See what I mean, Qexigator? *Pokes Gerda* El_C 18:25, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for the link to MOS:INFOBOX. This comfirms my experience when I have been looking at or editing other well-established articles on impottant topics: the infobox is 'to summarize (and not supplant) key facts that appear in the article (an article should remain complete with its summary infobox ignored,,,The less information it contains, the more effectively it serves that purpose, allowing readers to identify key facts at a glance,' If well done, they can be very helpful when needed.' Qexigator (talk) 18:44, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
- My favourite is Beethoven. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:05, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
- The unquestionable elegance of less is more. El_C 19:08, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
- I am so proud of that ;) - Did you know that I designed it in the workshop of Teh Case ("Actually, I believe almost every article would profit from a placement like that in history and geography.")? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:01, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
- The unquestionable elegance of less is more. El_C 19:08, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
- My favourite is Beethoven. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:05, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
Us
- User:El C/Songs from the homeland (YouTube links to individual performances are at the top of the subpage, in boldface)
"Didn't Know You'd Walk Away From Me"
"Yes, It Has No Chance, But Between Myself And I Everything Is Allowed"
Last updated: El_C 09:05, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
Gerda loves subsections!
- Thanks for sharing! Reminds me of my one and only contrib to the Hebrew Wikipedia. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:17, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
- I would have liked to add the pic to context, but can't tell ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:46, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
- Are you referring to he:קובץ:Ubud_Cremation_4.jpg, because that is one scary dragon! El_C 08:51, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
- yes ;) - that pic was taken by my much-missed friend who made the good version for Ian Fleming, and my illustration for the infobox wars (see the link to the workshop, and in my 2020 talk archive). - On the other topic, Bach, we have now another ANI, by Smerus, Nikkimaria is fighting, I shake my head and try to look away, and Mathsci is still blocked. How many more editors in good standing are going to be burnt? - I like the singers music, but the images best when I see him, not graphics. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:54, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
- Haha! All roads lead to Ian Fleming, it seems. Also, you're making me sound like the grim reaper, but I just want to pet a chipmunk! El_C 11:03, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
- "making you sound"? I just tremble with indignation - out for the day --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:07, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
- That's the second time today where I've had Che quoted back at me — looks like it's gonna be one of those days... Enjoy your outing! El_C 11:13, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
- "making you sound"? I just tremble with indignation - out for the day --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:07, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
- Haha! All roads lead to Ian Fleming, it seems. Also, you're making me sound like the grim reaper, but I just want to pet a chipmunk! El_C 11:03, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
- yes ;) - that pic was taken by my much-missed friend who made the good version for Ian Fleming, and my illustration for the infobox wars (see the link to the workshop, and in my 2020 talk archive). - On the other topic, Bach, we have now another ANI, by Smerus, Nikkimaria is fighting, I shake my head and try to look away, and Mathsci is still blocked. How many more editors in good standing are going to be burnt? - I like the singers music, but the images best when I see him, not graphics. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:54, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
- Are you referring to he:קובץ:Ubud_Cremation_4.jpg, because that is one scary dragon! El_C 08:51, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
Innisfree Garden |
- Back from sun and snow: sorry if that landed wrong. I was a bit in a rush, and reacted to "all roads lead to IF". I don't care about IF, at all, the number of my edits to his article is zero, the number of my edits to the talk page is zero. I had not thought of him in years until the ongoing RfC, and my edits will remain zero. I use his name as an example, because - with the RfC going - I can mention it, otherwise if I mentioned a name from the group someone would come and cry "canvassing".
- I thought about the animosity, and what I can trace back (because I really don't understand it), and looked at what I wrote about Ian Fleming on the page deleted as a call to battle. I made a note of the name, that it was infobox person (red background indicating that it was lost) and the above-mentioned diff of a good version from 2012 piped to the date. That's all. I had forgotten until I looked it up now that my friend had made the good version. When we lost him (later that year) I spread the image all over the Wikipedias, even Hebrew (with some help from a friend from Jerusalem). My first reaction had been to leave, but then I didn't want to do his enemies that favour ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:30, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
- Ooh, that is some lovley greenery. So nice. Also, you can CANVASS me any day, Gerda, but should probably note my propensity to call (!)voter fraud whenever things don't go my way (diff). Anyway, trying to take it easy today, with the occasional bouts of critical drinking. El_C 19:28, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
- Fine, easy today, will explain "canvass" some other day, also why I think the animosity is inherited, because the listing described really doesn't explain it, - although I can see (now) that the red background - about as red as your top image - could be seen as inflammatory. But a reason to leave Wikipedia? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:17, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
- Easier today, with progress on BWV 1. Back to the beginning, Hebrew: we miss Yoninah, terribly, and one of the many things she would have done for me is adding the text of a psalm to the article, compare Psalm 45 and Psalm 43. The text can be found at the bottom, in External links. I could probably manage but would feel safer if someone did it who could actually read it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:44, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
- Done. Oh, good, glad to hear it. Yup, I well know Yoninah for her top-tier contributions. I wouldn't count our losses yet, though. She's only been gone less than a month. Hopefully, she'll return soon. *Sending positive vibes* El_C 11:01, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
- Haha! Dangerous terrain (diff), who would have thunk it? (Seriously, I didn't.) El_C 11:07, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
- Hmm. I confess to being puzzled (diff). Anyway, pinged you to User_talk:Veverve#Psalm_43_query. Hopefully, my confusion can be assuaged. El_C 11:32, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
- did it? (I had an edit conflict there) - thank you for a new word, "assuaged" --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:37, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
- See the trouble you get me into? Now to ameliorate! El_C 11:39, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
- going out again, sun and snow, will think about amelioration when walking --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:03, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
- Obligatory Here Comes Sunshine spam! El_C 12:27, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
- refreshed: spam for spam (subject of my first article, which was supposed to be the only one, but it had this red link ...) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:36, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
- Very nice, but I still think I'm owed some Psalms-related comforting! El_C 20:38, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
- refreshed: spam for spam (subject of my first article, which was supposed to be the only one, but it had this red link ...) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:36, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
- Obligatory Here Comes Sunshine spam! El_C 12:27, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
- going out again, sun and snow, will think about amelioration when walking --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:03, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
- See the trouble you get me into? Now to ameliorate! El_C 11:39, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
- did it? (I had an edit conflict there) - thank you for a new word, "assuaged" --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:37, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
- Hmm. I confess to being puzzled (diff). Anyway, pinged you to User_talk:Veverve#Psalm_43_query. Hopefully, my confusion can be assuaged. El_C 11:32, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
- Haha! Dangerous terrain (diff), who would have thunk it? (Seriously, I didn't.) El_C 11:07, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
- Done. Oh, good, glad to hear it. Yup, I well know Yoninah for her top-tier contributions. I wouldn't count our losses yet, though. She's only been gone less than a month. Hopefully, she'll return soon. *Sending positive vibes* El_C 11:01, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
- Ooh, that is some lovley greenery. So nice. Also, you can CANVASS me any day, Gerda, but should probably note my propensity to call (!)voter fraud whenever things don't go my way (diff). Anyway, trying to take it easy today, with the occasional bouts of critical drinking. El_C 19:28, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
- "no good thing will he withhold from them that walk uprightly" --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:48, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks, I like that a lot! El_C 20:49, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
- Sadly: more work for you, in her memory. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:02, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks, I like that a lot! El_C 20:49, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
- "no good thing will he withhold from them that walk uprightly" --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:48, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
Guess what, BWV 1 and BWV 159 make progress. You mentioned AE. I was there, last 2015. It was so awful that I dropped all pride (and it felt like giving up walking uprightly - watch out for Psalm 110 there) and appealed (and even successfully so). Starlight on top of that archive ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:01, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
- I'll take some startlight — been flying too close to the sun lately, truth be told. El_C 18:34, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
- You are welcome! I made a hook, also for you.
Did you know ...
... that Universalkünstler
Arik Brauer
created paintings in Fantastic Realism,
songs in Austropop,
stage sets for the Paris Opera,
and house facades in Austria and Israel?
- One this day nine years ago, I told Voceditenore that she is a voice of opera and reason. In 2018, she said: "And, no, there haven't been infobox squabbles in ages. I personally use them all the time now for biographies and operas. There are a few diehards left, but the general attitude from both perspectives seems to have settled on live and let live." So why is it that some still can't settle on live and let live? - The next cookbook author is scheluded to appear as TFA (with a nice infobox btw, as the last), and I will keep the usual thanks to the creator for myself as insistent, but I don't understand. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:54, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
- Love the artwork of Arik Brauer — nicely done! Ah, the vicissitudes of infoboxen, its ebbs and and flow. What a peculiar thing it is. El_C 14:55, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
- No, it doesn't. It could just ebb. In 2018, it was no concern. Why is it now? Why can't we just edit the little boxes as other content: someone adds, and if someone reverts, consensus needs to be established. Instead, someone adding, or requesting, or just asking where it went, is considered a warrior. The question where it went often goes like this: when a certain group of editors expanded an article, they collapsed it (thinking that was a compromise, but making life harder for those having physical trouble to click the "show" button). That caused a little edit-war, which was "resolved" by taking it away completely, with a discussion like this on the talk following. Ever since, we have been reminded that there was this consensus not to have one, and we are supposed to believe that. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:10, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
- For sure, I am like-minded with you in that interpretation. WP:ONUS should generally be observed, like elsewhere. Indeed, there really isn't an excuse for not doing so. In theory, per WP:ARBINFOBOX2, WP:ACDS allows admins to just straight-up make it (ONUS) a requirement by adding Consensus required to intractable infobox disputes. My sense is that most admins just do not want to touch these because it usually ends up amounting to a zero-sum game, at best — myself, I don't really engage infobox disputes in an AE capacity, because the history and politics AE topic areas keep me busy enough (diff). El_C 16:19, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
- There are almost no "intractable infobox disputes", really, so DS serves no purpose. The problem is that a newcomer who has no idea of a minefield is treated as a warrior. - I love your translations. We should have more us. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:36, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
- Ah, understood. Admittedly, I do not have a firm grasp of what's happening on the infobox front. RE: translations. Many thanks! I appreciate your praise very much. Also Val's. Strange how it took me hours and hours to do the first one, an hour to do the second one, and 30 minutes to do the third one. But I think I'm now finally satisfied with the final form of all three translations, so at least I'm done with the constant tinkering (though not to jinx it!). El_C 16:57, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
- For more understanding: imagine - if you can, it takes courage - for a moment that back in 2012, the infobox had been kept as it had been for years then already. Imagine. - Certainly thanks to presentation here, Arik Brauer made it to the stats, DYK? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:48, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
- Ah, understood. Admittedly, I do not have a firm grasp of what's happening on the infobox front. RE: translations. Many thanks! I appreciate your praise very much. Also Val's. Strange how it took me hours and hours to do the first one, an hour to do the second one, and 30 minutes to do the third one. But I think I'm now finally satisfied with the final form of all three translations, so at least I'm done with the constant tinkering (though not to jinx it!). El_C 16:57, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
- There are almost no "intractable infobox disputes", really, so DS serves no purpose. The problem is that a newcomer who has no idea of a minefield is treated as a warrior. - I love your translations. We should have more us. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:36, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
- For sure, I am like-minded with you in that interpretation. WP:ONUS should generally be observed, like elsewhere. Indeed, there really isn't an excuse for not doing so. In theory, per WP:ARBINFOBOX2, WP:ACDS allows admins to just straight-up make it (ONUS) a requirement by adding Consensus required to intractable infobox disputes. My sense is that most admins just do not want to touch these because it usually ends up amounting to a zero-sum game, at best — myself, I don't really engage infobox disputes in an AE capacity, because the history and politics AE topic areas keep me busy enough (diff). El_C 16:19, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
- No, it doesn't. It could just ebb. In 2018, it was no concern. Why is it now? Why can't we just edit the little boxes as other content: someone adds, and if someone reverts, consensus needs to be established. Instead, someone adding, or requesting, or just asking where it went, is considered a warrior. The question where it went often goes like this: when a certain group of editors expanded an article, they collapsed it (thinking that was a compromise, but making life harder for those having physical trouble to click the "show" button). That caused a little edit-war, which was "resolved" by taking it away completely, with a discussion like this on the talk following. Ever since, we have been reminded that there was this consensus not to have one, and we are supposed to believe that. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:10, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
- Love the artwork of Arik Brauer — nicely done! Ah, the vicissitudes of infoboxen, its ebbs and and flow. What a peculiar thing it is. El_C 14:55, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
- One this day nine years ago, I told Voceditenore that she is a voice of opera and reason. In 2018, she said: "And, no, there haven't been infobox squabbles in ages. I personally use them all the time now for biographies and operas. There are a few diehards left, but the general attitude from both perspectives seems to have settled on live and let live." So why is it that some still can't settle on live and let live? - The next cookbook author is scheluded to appear as TFA (with a nice infobox btw, as the last), and I will keep the usual thanks to the creator for myself as insistent, but I don't understand. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:54, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
Play Bach
How do you like this? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:46, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
Enjoy the music, and make it last. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:18, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- (As) I always do, Gerda! Yours always, El_C 12:00, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- Great music offer! - What do you think of the start of Reception, - the little prince never gives up a question. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:14, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- Not usually a fan of princes, but here's one that really did music-it-up! El_C 12:17, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- Agree about Johann Ernst! The Little Prince never gives up a question, "the prince has golden hair, a lovable laugh, and will repeat questions until they are answered". How do you like the beginning of reception? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:50, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- One of my favourite books growing up... Reception looks great to me. I think he did a fine job. Top tier musicology. El_C 16:54, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- I agree, but who is "he"? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:56, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- "You know, that guy — who always wore a shirt." Oh, sorry, did you write that, with him just having merged it? It's a low attention span -day today, so brace yourself! El_C 17:04, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- Nonono, I could never write such a thing (+ I'm not a "he" as the writer is, and yes, the obvious "he" just merged it). Two ways to the answer: you follow the links in the edit summary (better the second), or you look at the new article's talk page. Unless you just guess why I come to you of all people with this question, and may guess right. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:17, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- A riddle — noo! There better not be a math and science test at the end of this! El_C 17:21, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- test? first question in this thread has one (!) link, leading to the initial entry of a new article, with two (but I said better second) links, with the second leading to where an estimated 95% of the content came from. [2] - a fine job, indeed, not my style, but fine. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:51, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- Hoping for a D-. That would be about right. El_C 17:57, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- An unblock would do. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:55, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- Gerda, for reasons which are my own, attending to this dispute, in any administrative capacity, just isn't something I wish to engage at this time. Sorry. El_C 20:42, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- Understand. Appreciation of outstanding work is better. You can tell other admins where the clue is - my lead image until 2021 came, remember? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:06, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- Of course, happy to pass on genuine positive impressions, always. Yes, I do. Breathtaking, primordial. El_C 22:26, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- "at times heavy to carry" (quoting myself still from the same page which also has the model for Precious, did you see? - the cabal of the outcast, - I told Bus stop four years ago, feel like Cassandre) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:06, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- And that's very much okay to express. Also, we can be in diametric opposition about whatever from time to time. That is also okay. El_C 23:20, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- "at times heavy to carry" (quoting myself still from the same page which also has the model for Precious, did you see? - the cabal of the outcast, - I told Bus stop four years ago, feel like Cassandre) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:06, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- Of course, happy to pass on genuine positive impressions, always. Yes, I do. Breathtaking, primordial. El_C 22:26, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- Understand. Appreciation of outstanding work is better. You can tell other admins where the clue is - my lead image until 2021 came, remember? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:06, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- Gerda, for reasons which are my own, attending to this dispute, in any administrative capacity, just isn't something I wish to engage at this time. Sorry. El_C 20:42, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- An unblock would do. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:55, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- Hoping for a D-. That would be about right. El_C 17:57, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- test? first question in this thread has one (!) link, leading to the initial entry of a new article, with two (but I said better second) links, with the second leading to where an estimated 95% of the content came from. [2] - a fine job, indeed, not my style, but fine. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:51, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- A riddle — noo! There better not be a math and science test at the end of this! El_C 17:21, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- Nonono, I could never write such a thing (+ I'm not a "he" as the writer is, and yes, the obvious "he" just merged it). Two ways to the answer: you follow the links in the edit summary (better the second), or you look at the new article's talk page. Unless you just guess why I come to you of all people with this question, and may guess right. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:17, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- "You know, that guy — who always wore a shirt." Oh, sorry, did you write that, with him just having merged it? It's a low attention span -day today, so brace yourself! El_C 17:04, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- I agree, but who is "he"? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:56, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- One of my favourite books growing up... Reception looks great to me. I think he did a fine job. Top tier musicology. El_C 16:54, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- Agree about Johann Ernst! The Little Prince never gives up a question, "the prince has golden hair, a lovable laugh, and will repeat questions until they are answered". How do you like the beginning of reception? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:50, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- Not usually a fan of princes, but here's one that really did music-it-up! El_C 12:17, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- Great music offer! - What do you think of the start of Reception, - the little prince never gives up a question. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:14, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
Cleaning up after vandals (Gerda bump)
Hi
You recently blocked Lenchmobbin (talk · contribs) for deceptive editing and poor communication, after my nomination. My quick question now is how do I most efficiently undo the damage they did? It would be a lot of work to go through all the articles and figure out what remains of their changes and what needs to be reverted, and since there are intervening edits I would have to do it all manually. Is there a quicker way with some tool or something, or do I just have to suck it up and do it the hard way? Thanks in advance for any help! Knuthove (talk) 17:02, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
- Hello. Nope, nothing that I, at least, know about can work as a timesaver for all of that painstaking work. No rest for the weary. El_C 05:55, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
- Another watering down of the wisdom of the tetragrammaton, damn it. History is all downhill. At least if we can trust Isaiah, the Big Chief's view was that there was 'no rest for the wicked'. As a rogue editor and traditionalist that's my take on working here (without offending Weary Dunlop 's memory).:)Nishidani (talk) 12:24, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
- Did I do a wicked thing or is it a Wicked problem. Or... El_C 12:38, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
- That in itself is a wicked problem question, since how you take it depends on whether the stress accent goes on the first or the second syllable of wicked. Philip Roth's novels, and a million others (John Updike) often deal with male protagonists who have a wick(ed) problem, if the stress makes that word monosyllabic. Ah, I suppose, bending my mental elbow with fond memories of student weekends, I should accommodate the matter to the wisdom of my dialect: (no rest-rooms for the shickered). Cheers, pal.Nishidani (talk) 12:46, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
- Unrelated-related, here are the books I've read most recently (in chronological order): Dayworld (Hebrew), The Simulacra (Hebrew), Nineteen Eighty-Four (Hebrew), Real Ultimate Power, The Official Ninja Book (English), The Lovers (Hebrew) ISBN 0-345-28691-X, now reading Darkness at Noon (English). If there is a method to my madness, I submit to you that it is Totally Sweet. And Smooth. El_C 12:59, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
- The only connection there is with The Simulacra, which, being written by Philip Dick . . .Seriously, after Darkness at Noon, it's worth glancing at his neglected novel, Arrival and Departure. I read it too long ago to remember much but 'Statistics don't bleed' somewhere there stuck. Cheers Nishidani (talk) 13:50, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
- Right, I've heard of it, but never gotten around to locating/reading it. Anyway, maybe we should start an Anti-Orwellian/Pro-Ninja book club? Just throwing it out there. El_C 13:56, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
- The only connection there is with The Simulacra, which, being written by Philip Dick . . .Seriously, after Darkness at Noon, it's worth glancing at his neglected novel, Arrival and Departure. I read it too long ago to remember much but 'Statistics don't bleed' somewhere there stuck. Cheers Nishidani (talk) 13:50, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
- Unrelated-related, here are the books I've read most recently (in chronological order): Dayworld (Hebrew), The Simulacra (Hebrew), Nineteen Eighty-Four (Hebrew), Real Ultimate Power, The Official Ninja Book (English), The Lovers (Hebrew) ISBN 0-345-28691-X, now reading Darkness at Noon (English). If there is a method to my madness, I submit to you that it is Totally Sweet. And Smooth. El_C 12:59, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
- That in itself is a wicked problem question, since how you take it depends on whether the stress accent goes on the first or the second syllable of wicked. Philip Roth's novels, and a million others (John Updike) often deal with male protagonists who have a wick(ed) problem, if the stress makes that word monosyllabic. Ah, I suppose, bending my mental elbow with fond memories of student weekends, I should accommodate the matter to the wisdom of my dialect: (no rest-rooms for the shickered). Cheers, pal.Nishidani (talk) 12:46, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
- Dunno. The (Orwellian) future (apart from one's mortality at the moment of writing this:)) is already here in my twisted way of viewing this otherwise splendid world, so I tend to, with fiction, only read stuff composed prior to 2000 (BCE, would be ideal, but I never learnt Sumerian). Nishidani (talk) 16:13, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
- Nishidani, if you hear that chipping sound as you sit in your ivory tower, that'd be my army of chipmunks. So, brace yourself...? El_C 18:29, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
- I only brace myself to avoid my trousers falling down to my ankles. You've stumbled on one of my early nicknames -Chip - the chosen monicker the brightest kid in our class (+162 IQ, but he wasn't good at football or cricket, poor bugger) devised for me. As long as your little chaps don't mind the toponi di campagna, snakes and hedgehogs that thrive on my property or come to share an evening meal with my cat, rest assured they'll get the royal carpet treatment, Devonshire tea if they bowl in too early to enjoy the abundant horse chestnuts here. I've long taken a leaf out of Archibald Belaney's book. Since I'm an ex-Mick and it's St.Pat's Day, for the record, his ophidophobic ostracism is something I put down as a black mark against the saintly blighter. As an act of ethnohistorical reparation, I have become the local snake rescuer, by the way, phoned to pick them up and remove them to safe bushland when they curl up near neighbours' doors. CheersNishidani (talk) 19:09, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
- Nishidani, being as cultured as an aristocat isn't gonna save you from the justice of the
mobmasses. So, when I say brace yourself, I'm chiefly talking about the chipmunks' tiny guillotines — i.e. takes a while before the choppy-choppy (Chinese racism connotations unintended!) is done! El_C 20:45, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
- Nishidani, being as cultured as an aristocat isn't gonna save you from the justice of the
- I only brace myself to avoid my trousers falling down to my ankles. You've stumbled on one of my early nicknames -Chip - the chosen monicker the brightest kid in our class (+162 IQ, but he wasn't good at football or cricket, poor bugger) devised for me. As long as your little chaps don't mind the toponi di campagna, snakes and hedgehogs that thrive on my property or come to share an evening meal with my cat, rest assured they'll get the royal carpet treatment, Devonshire tea if they bowl in too early to enjoy the abundant horse chestnuts here. I've long taken a leaf out of Archibald Belaney's book. Since I'm an ex-Mick and it's St.Pat's Day, for the record, his ophidophobic ostracism is something I put down as a black mark against the saintly blighter. As an act of ethnohistorical reparation, I have become the local snake rescuer, by the way, phoned to pick them up and remove them to safe bushland when they curl up near neighbours' doors. CheersNishidani (talk) 19:09, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
- Nishidani, if you hear that chipping sound as you sit in your ivory tower, that'd be my army of chipmunks. So, brace yourself...? El_C 18:29, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
- Death by a thousand comic cuts? But as an orientalist with a background in the martial arts, you should warn your chipmunks that I am a dab hand at 筷子剣道 with a swordsmanship only equaled by puss in boots, the real aristocat. I'm just a hardscrabble aristocrapNishidani (talk)
- Nishidani, this isn't a Kung Fu fantasy movie, with the magic and the flying. One (three) word: tiny armour columns! El_C 11:35, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
- Story: back in the old country, my cat took on a Palestine Viper on two separate occasions and triumphed both times. She was the best! El_C 20:56, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
- God's grief. Even your cat can't shrug off the lessons of Genesis? Nishidani (talk) 21:11, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
- Now I'm thinking about Yoninah (Genesis, not cat-related), again. Where is she, indeed, Gerda? El_C 11:35, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
- I broke you the sad news yesterday, next to the synagogue pic. Will write a different psalm article in her memory. On her talk or on Google, look for "Touching the World of Angels" (and "Yonina"). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:01, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
- Oh, I didn't pick up on it (obviously). No words. El_C 12:25, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
- ... so I had to write for the Signpost - today: Bach's cantata composed for today, - perhaps listen. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:46, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
- Sorry, I'm listening to it how? (No direct link.) El_C 15:34, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
- Ask MarnetteD who was listening when typing ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:15, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
- Psalm 125 please, only 5 verses! - Did you find music? DYK that it became FA yesterday? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:34, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
- No, I didn't know how to find it. It's nice, I like it. Thanks! As for Pslams, did you not see that I did 124-150 as requested (on March 23)? 125 is good to go! No, I did not know. Congrats on like, what, the millionth FA? El_C 12:04, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
- DYK how I found it: ask google for "BWV 1", as difficult as that ;) - I wonder if you'd like the faster version that appears first better. - WOW for having done all those Hebrew psalms, - no, I missed it, and didn't you see that for many, we have them already, thanks to Yoninah? I'll do one by one. - What I saw and admired - with great sadness - was the beauty of this. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:16, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
- Oh! I guess I misunderstood your request. Still, it was time well spent, so I have no redundancy regrets. What do you mean Google? There's lots of https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=BWV+1+cantana — a couple of which I've already listened to... Indeed, sad. Hopefully, he'll come back, if not soon, one day. El_C 12:29, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
- Why should he? You mentioned time well spent. Next time arbitration calls me I'll also not participate. Time not well spent. To my limited observation, always, sadly. - On that brighter side: I didn't count FAs, but none last year, and this one was hard. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:40, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
- Oh, I thought you were Giano'ing it up. Was probably confusing DYK/RD with FA, though.¯\_(ツ)_/¯ El_C 12:45, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
- Giano will get flowers for dreams. 12 FAs - I looked. Dreaming of Innisfree Garden, just to show the image, - I tried on DYK, twice. Yoninah would have accepted. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:03, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
- Oh, I thought you were Giano'ing it up. Was probably confusing DYK/RD with FA, though.¯\_(ツ)_/¯ El_C 12:45, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
- Why should he? You mentioned time well spent. Next time arbitration calls me I'll also not participate. Time not well spent. To my limited observation, always, sadly. - On that brighter side: I didn't count FAs, but none last year, and this one was hard. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:40, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
- Oh! I guess I misunderstood your request. Still, it was time well spent, so I have no redundancy regrets. What do you mean Google? There's lots of https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=BWV+1+cantana — a couple of which I've already listened to... Indeed, sad. Hopefully, he'll come back, if not soon, one day. El_C 12:29, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
- DYK how I found it: ask google for "BWV 1", as difficult as that ;) - I wonder if you'd like the faster version that appears first better. - WOW for having done all those Hebrew psalms, - no, I missed it, and didn't you see that for many, we have them already, thanks to Yoninah? I'll do one by one. - What I saw and admired - with great sadness - was the beauty of this. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:16, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
- No, I didn't know how to find it. It's nice, I like it. Thanks! As for Pslams, did you not see that I did 124-150 as requested (on March 23)? 125 is good to go! No, I did not know. Congrats on like, what, the millionth FA? El_C 12:04, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
- Sorry, I'm listening to it how? (No direct link.) El_C 15:34, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
- ... so I had to write for the Signpost - today: Bach's cantata composed for today, - perhaps listen. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:46, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
- Oh, I didn't pick up on it (obviously). No words. El_C 12:25, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
- I broke you the sad news yesterday, next to the synagogue pic. Will write a different psalm article in her memory. On her talk or on Google, look for "Touching the World of Angels" (and "Yonina"). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:01, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
- Now I'm thinking about Yoninah (Genesis, not cat-related), again. Where is she, indeed, Gerda? El_C 11:35, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
- God's grief. Even your cat can't shrug off the lessons of Genesis? Nishidani (talk) 21:11, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
- Story: back in the old country, my cat took on a Palestine Viper on two separate occasions and triumphed both times. She was the best! El_C 20:56, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
- Nishidani, this isn't a Kung Fu fantasy movie, with the magic and the flying. One (three) word: tiny armour columns! El_C 11:35, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
- Did I do a wicked thing or is it a Wicked problem. Or... El_C 12:38, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
- Another watering down of the wisdom of the tetragrammaton, damn it. History is all downhill. At least if we can trust Isaiah, the Big Chief's view was that there was 'no rest for the wicked'. As a rogue editor and traditionalist that's my take on working here (without offending Weary Dunlop 's memory).:)Nishidani (talk) 12:24, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
to get serious: ... and the first performance was on a Palm Sunday which is today, and Yoninah's obituary today with the beginning of Passover - putting some little ego-battles in perspective --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:57, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
... and today is the day I want to be praised for having been able to suppress the urge to thank for the TFA ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:33, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
- Gerda, two things before I go back into the Void to resume my slumber. First, please don't mention SchroCat on my talk page (even as a hint in whimsy) — it makes me feel uncomfortable. Secondly, I've no stamina for uphill battles right now, despite my strong feelings about certain recent and/or developing events of note. And that's that. I gotta do what's best for me, and by extension, the project — they're one and the same. El_C 15:01, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
- I didn't refer to any user, was just proud of remembering. How about a line from a psalm for praise? Psalm 69? The next to be expanded. The term "little ego-battles" (if you mean that) was coined by Antandrus in a very general way, and used in February: "You know what I like most about Wikipedia, ultimately? It gives stuff away for free. All our little ego-battles blow away in the wind. They're nothing. The articles remain." Amen. Also very generally: I was in no battle on our dear project, - any claim ty the contrary would need a reliable source (... and don't tell me that arbs are such a thing). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:14, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you for what you said on Yoninah's talk, seen only now. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:16, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
- Of course [Yoninah]. Erm, sorry, but that "pride" is Off Pudding for me [SchroCat subterfuge]. As to What Is This (show more for lyrics} — an institutional shift? An establishment-dissident re/alignment ? Strange times. Strange dreams [The Thing]. El_C 18:16, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
- ("pride"??? as if it was bad to be proud of no battles? My attempts were Motezuma (where I was called disruptive first time ever), Sparrow Mass (where I was called a warrior first time ever, for installing the consensus version weeks after an edit war of others) and Siegfried (opera). SC had nothing to do with any of it, nor was he even a party to the arbcase. Completely different cinema.) Today is the first day after beginning expansion of Psalm 69 without Hebrew text. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:06, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
- Of course [Yoninah]. Erm, sorry, but that "pride" is Off Pudding for me [SchroCat subterfuge]. As to What Is This (show more for lyrics} — an institutional shift? An establishment-dissident re/alignment ? Strange times. Strange dreams [The Thing]. El_C 18:16, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
Gerda's April corner
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You may be interested in the TFA on Easter Sunday that played a role in my life! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:28, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
- Cool. Those who have fallen live on in us, in our memories and love. Blessed Easter to you, Gerda. El_C 17:10, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you, happened! - Psalm 115 in Hebrew, please? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:44, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
- Ah, I see ;) - I read my watchlist backwards. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:49, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
- DYK that we had a beautiful Main page on 10 April? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:09, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
- On this day in 1742, He was despised was performed for the first time, and when I wrote it in 2012, I didn't only think of Jesus. Andreas Scholl sang that for us, - you are invited to a Baroque stroll. - Next: Psalm 116, please. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:29, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
- Done. Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Quality_Article_Improvement/Psalms#116. El_C 13:51, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
- Excellent! Will start today then! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:56, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
- Today: an article about music significant in my life, Bach's motet Jesu, mein Freude, with a long way from the start in 2006 to the Main page today ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:57, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
- DYKongrats! El_C 09:08, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
- Well, really? I failed a GA nom, twice, and it took the better editor to make GA possible. (Just look at that longest talk page for any Bach composition in memory.) It's my piece of defiance not only against death and fear but also arbcom, DYK? - I opened a peer review. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:31, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
- Well, I'm lost (obviously). El_C 10:00, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
- What do you find if you click on "DYK"? - And what do you find if you visit the article's talk page? - The original defiance happened here. It's short for the lyrics that begin "Defiance to the old dragon, defiance to death, and to fear on top. World, rage and leap. I stand here and sing, in safe tranquility." --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:35, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
- More like lost the thread due to inattention.¯\_(ツ)_/¯ World, rage and leap — I like that! El_C 13:44, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
- I knew that! listen! The raging is when you only hear the basses grumbling, and last word is "brummen", the sound that bears and bumble bees make, imitated by all. Great fun to do! If only we could. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:07, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
- Will do. Also:
bears and bumble bees
— intrigued. El_C 14:11, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
- Will do. Also:
- I knew that! listen! The raging is when you only hear the basses grumbling, and last word is "brummen", the sound that bears and bumble bees make, imitated by all. Great fun to do! If only we could. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:07, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
- More like lost the thread due to inattention.¯\_(ツ)_/¯ World, rage and leap — I like that! El_C 13:44, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
- What do you find if you click on "DYK"? - And what do you find if you visit the article's talk page? - The original defiance happened here. It's short for the lyrics that begin "Defiance to the old dragon, defiance to death, and to fear on top. World, rage and leap. I stand here and sing, in safe tranquility." --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:35, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
- Well, I'm lost (obviously). El_C 10:00, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
- Well, really? I failed a GA nom, twice, and it took the better editor to make GA possible. (Just look at that longest talk page for any Bach composition in memory.) It's my piece of defiance not only against death and fear but also arbcom, DYK? - I opened a peer review. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:31, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
- DYKongrats! El_C 09:08, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
- Done. Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Quality_Article_Improvement/Psalms#116. El_C 13:51, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
Could you give Hebrew to Psalm 104, please. In the news. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:04, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
- Done. Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Quality_Article_Improvement/Psalms#104. El_C 21:18, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
- Great! Almost 13k views for the Psalm yesterday, imagine. Too bad I was out all day, and only few will have seen it in more splendour, with Hebrew. Did you read there that someone found it worth studying Hebrew for 10 years to read it in the original? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:32, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
- You may have seen it already on my talk: Psalm 118 is the one for today. (Psalm 86 tomorrow) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:49, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
Fruit of you labour: memories on the Main page today, Psalm 115 thinking of Yoninah, Christa Ludwig and Milva, - voices that made the Earth a better place. Sad that the psalm hook didn't appear on Earth Day as planned, but better pictured and late than going unnoticed ;) - Will work on Psalm 68 when done with the mezzo. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:49, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
Gerda's May corner
Enjoy two ladies today, one played in an iconic film, the other sang in the premiere of a famous opera, with her husband-to-be ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:47, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
- Nice share. I'll have me some of that Franz Liszt clout! Also, I do seem to recall discussing and possibly also watching Under the Pavement Lies the Strand, but I don't remember if it was in a German history or history of feminism course (hazy memory)... El_C 09:55, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
- It's great sharing with you, actually looking - the soprano made it to the stats, imagine! even Liszt got 3k+ hits - my talk got interesting with people meeting while I was working, did you see? I switched back to the April pic, because the wild garlic is in full bloom as I saw yesterday, and chamomile didn't even begin. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:01, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hey, I look (mostly)! For sure, Chipmunk Season being upon us sure is nice. Anyway, you know what they (I) say: It Don't Mean a Thing (If It Ain't Got That Swing)! [Set up] → Doo-Wap [Punch line]. El_C 10:37, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
- Fine! Look ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:26, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
- Not looking! El_C 11:29, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
- I didn't say listen, but look ;) - Look at the talk: it has the whole sad story of the infobox wars in a nutshell (including that a friend's RfA failed because of her comments on said page), and I think - after all the trouble we've seen - we just reached the happy ending. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:35, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
- Oh, it was infobox-relatd? Boo! And Grr... El_C 10:44, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
- What in the word "happy ending" did you not understand? There seems no need to ever mention that topic again now. - I came to ask for Hebrew for Psalm 95. - Miss SlimVirgin. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:59, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
- Oh, it was infobox-relatd? Boo! And Grr... El_C 10:44, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
- I didn't say listen, but look ;) - Look at the talk: it has the whole sad story of the infobox wars in a nutshell (including that a friend's RfA failed because of her comments on said page), and I think - after all the trouble we've seen - we just reached the happy ending. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:35, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
- Not looking! El_C 11:29, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
- Fine! Look ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:26, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hey, I look (mostly)! For sure, Chipmunk Season being upon us sure is nice. Anyway, you know what they (I) say: It Don't Mean a Thing (If It Ain't Got That Swing)! [Set up] → Doo-Wap [Punch line]. El_C 10:37, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
- It's great sharing with you, actually looking - the soprano made it to the stats, imagine! even Liszt got 3k+ hits - my talk got interesting with people meeting while I was working, did you see? I switched back to the April pic, because the wild garlic is in full bloom as I saw yesterday, and chamomile didn't even begin. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:01, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
Today: Kammermusik (Hindemith), - don't miss caricature, "badboy" and the review! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:52, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
Today: Thomas Fritsch, the German voice of Diego in Ice Age. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:04, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
Today: pictured white and blue - birthday of a friend whose name was in the credits for Ice Age, if you waited a while --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:37, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
Today: the lead DYK, "useless but meaningful", or a dream-com-true pictured --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:23, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
DS 2021 Review Update
Dear El C,
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Hey
Hi El C - noticed you hadn't been around for a while. Hope all's well and you're just taking a break - God knows you deserve it. Cheers GirthSummit (blether) 17:58, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hey, GS. Thanks for checking in. Everything's okay-ish, just got a lot on my plate right now. Hope to be back soon-ish. Best, El_C 13:36, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
- El C, I know that feeling. Glad you're OK (or at least okayish!), stay safe. GirthSummit (blether) 16:36, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
Question
Hi. I was tagged here, I wondered if responding to these accusations that weren't made in any good faith whatsoever would be a violation of the topic ban. I think it would, but I wanted to make sure. In this case, should I not respond at all? I took into account that you were the enforcer on topic ban, and I thought it would be best to ask this to you. --► Sincerely: Solavirum 07:54, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
500/30?
For Stolperstein and History of the Jews in Dęblin and Irena during World War II, both have seen recent activity from likely socks. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 00:48, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
- Heads up to El C - I've applied it to Stolperstein. The other article seems already to have been protected by Ymblanter, so no action needed here. Cheers GirthSummit (blether) 16:16, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
Notice of noticeboard discussion
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. The thread is at WP:AN#Review_of_30/500_protection Thanks Girth Summit (blether) 12:48, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
Alea iacta est
Given your previous involvement in imposing some discretionary sanctions in this area, I felt only natural that I should also inform you of an open ArbCom case request. Thanks, RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 01:51, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
Update
Hope to be back (in some capacity, at least) sometime next week. Thanks, everyone, for your collective patience. In the meantime, Songspam, per usual. El_C 00:19, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
- If all goes well, will start dealing with the backlog on this talk page tomorrow. Should have picked Mercy... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ El_C 21:48, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
Remove voluntary sanction
Hi, I've just seen I've been mentionned multiple times in discussions and I think I'm detached enough now so that I'll be fine to answer by myself on the subject. I must admit I wrote once last week or so because I wanted to make a point to another editor I used to engage with back in february. I forgot about the voluntary stuff tbh. But if you'd accept to remove my voluntary sanction i'd appreciate it. Thank you very much for your help back in february, you didn't "mishandle" anything. You helped me make it end when I was in my (let's say more intense) phase and wasn't really liking how I was being treated as a conspiracy theorist. Feynstein (talk) 14:16, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
- Hello, Feynstein. Glad you're doing better and happy I was able to help. Per your request, I've lifted the sanction and have updated Wikipedia:Editing restrictions/Voluntary to reflect that. Best, El_C 14:36, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
Advice on dealing with difficult user
Dear @El C:, could you please have a look at the tone of user Alalch Emis in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Zangezur_corridor AfD and advise whether that behaviour is within the Wikipedia standards for editors' interaction? The person appears to have zero knowledge in the topic yet hard convictions based on cold-searching Google, and got agitated because I pointed out that he should not WP:OR in already highly controversial subject and suggested to self-revert then discuss his additions. If he kept it limited to tendentious editing and commented only on my actions I would somehow tolerate that, but after I pointed out that targeting the editor's personality like "you're boring" and repeatedly using inflammatory language like "you're wasting your time" and "you can keep spinning it whichever way you like" is not acceptable, he showed no insight. From his talk page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Alalch_Emis I can see he had similar problems with another article which you closed the case of. What's the right course of action, please? TIA! --Armatura (talk) 17:00, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
- Hi, Armatura. Honestly (and just at a glance), as the editor who nominated the page for deletion, for you to comment below virtually every keep !vote feels like WP:BLUDGEON behaviour. I see you've also tagged new and/or dormant accounts, which is fine. But I also see, for example, Davidgasparyan2001 (talk), whose delete !vote is their second edit, and which reads (in full):
Delete. Dear colleagues, I strongly remind that Wikipedia is not a place for political influence. Zangezur corridor doesn't exist, so this provocative article should be deleted
(diff). Why has their !vote gone unchallenged, but the ones by the SPAs !voting keep have? So, I really dislike this type of imbalance, which I find erodes the project's credibility. Anyway, while it's expected for a contentious deletion discussion to ebb and flow, I'm seeing a lot of ebbing, but not much flow. Maybe take a step back from the discussion so as to calm the waters a bit...? HTH! El_C 21:20, 8 June 2021 (UTC)- Many thanks for your neutral reply, EI_C, helpful as always. I will take your advice; you are right, I, after all, may be getting too emotional about this AfD. As for scrutinising those two discussants, one of them was already edit warring with me on Zangezur disambig page and the other one known for consulting a blocked editor suddenly 'retired', triggering the suspicion. I did not check the rest of the participants, perhaps subconsciously relying on the vigilance of the Azeri editors who are active commenting under the delete votes and would have normally highlighted suspicious pro-Armenian activity immediately. Had to check Ebb and flow article to see what you mean by that phrase :-) I believe I did not directly call names to any editor in that AfD and would like others not to call me names, that was the sole reason for asking you to have a look, not the AfD itself. Regards, --Armatura (talk) 21:52, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
semi-protect Talk:Investigations into the origin of COVID-19?
As you were the admin that applied the semi-protect to Talk:COVID-19 misinformation, what would be your thoughts on applying the same to Talk:Investigations into the origin of COVID-19? The talk page has, particularly recently, gotten significantly more IP-based cruft. Particularly with low quality accusations, sometimes indicating the article was not read by the user. An additional sampling from the last week:
- Content replacement vandalism [3]
- Unhelpful theorizing [4]
- An aggressive presumption of bad faith/shilling [5]
- Anonymous IP with "all my PhD friends" WP:OR [6]
Naturally, all of this is disruptive, and a drain on editor time to address. Would you consider protection of this talk page as falling under WP:GS/COVID19 for the same reason as the misinformation talk page protection, or is there a noticeboard you'd suggest taking this to? Thank you. Bakkster Man (talk) 13:23, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
- Well, my protection action at Talk:COVID-19 misinformation followed ToBeFree's request that I close an AN thread, a thread in which they requested WP:ECP, though I ended opting to go with semi (my closing summary). So, I would be wary of semi-protecting this COVID-19 article talk page single-handedly. My suggestion would be to raise the matter at WP:AN and make your case there. Regards, El_C 13:53, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
FYI
The local description page of the POTD image is cascade protected, so there is no need to protect it. Armbrust The Homunculus 17:21, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
- Oh. Weird, because the cascade protection option wasn't actually enabled in the protection window: example link (are you able to view it?). El_C 17:56, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
Vandalism of trans BLPs
Hello - after you handled the vandalism of trans BLPs I reported yesterday (thank you for this), two other IPs in the same subnet (147.161) that vandalized those pages vandalized the pages of two other trans women, Tifanny Abreu and Alexandra Grey. I don't know how to file a request for a rangeblock or whatever it's called, but am hoping you or another admin can help. Funcrunch (talk) 02:23, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
- Semi-protected indefinitely. Logged AE action. El_C 07:01, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks, but this edit summary explains why I asked about a rangeblock... Funcrunch (talk) 00:14, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
- Sorry, I missed that part. In answer to your question: if you research (and link to) the parameters of the range, I'll consider implementing it. Otherwise, I'm not really confident in setting up range blocks (aside from IPv6 ones) on my own, so WP:ANI might be a better fit. El_C 00:25, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks, but this edit summary explains why I asked about a rangeblock... Funcrunch (talk) 00:14, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
Hiya
Hi EI C,
This IP you blocked is back with vengeance :( OyMosby (talk) 15:51, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
Talk:List of Jeopardy! contestants
Thanks for protecting List of Jeopardy! contestants. However, the talk page is still being spammed. Could you also protect Talk:List of Jeopardy! contestants? Thanks. AldezD (talk) 20:14, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
- Blocked – for a period of one month. Range blocked. El_C 00:02, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
Hey El C, did you find what you needed? I'm new to the GS area too and am desperately hoping I haven't botched this all too much :-) All best, Go Phightins! 16:33, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
- Hi, Go Phightins! — looks good! Regards, El_C 16:35, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
Re your edit summary asking why I linked Radio Free Asia Article and GS/UYGHUR, this is because the current bout of activity on Radio Free Asia began following news about the arrest of RFA journalists reporting in Xinjiang. (The disruption was first brought up at AN/I here.) GS/UYGHUR has been set up as "broadly construed", and given the situation the Radio Free Asia article falls under that broad framework. More specifically, the article also has a "Arrests of Uyghur journalists' relatives" section, which is directly within the topic area. CMD (talk) 16:53, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
- It's a bit borderline, because the contested edits don't really touch on the Uyghur genocide. Still, taking this impetus into account, I've downgraded to WP:ECP, extended to one year. Will log. El_C 17:10, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
- I can see how it may look borderline, but I also feel if this point was brought up by an involved editor I'd consider it wikilawyering. It's a content dispute about the credibility of a news org that reports on the topic. Not that there's a need to look into it right now, but most of those involved in the current discussion (on both 'sides' too so to speak) have also recently edited the Uyghur genocide article and/or talk page. (Not a commentary on your admin actions, just further context.) CMD (talk) 17:36, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
- The point is that it neither falls under the scope of a "primary article" nor do the contested edits constitute "related content." That is what makes this hazy. El_C 17:49, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
- If I may interject, I wouldn't even claim it is borderline; to put this into contrast with Israeli-Palestinian conflict, a media building containing offices of AP news who report on the conflict has been bombed, a far more "direct relationship" to the conflict and thus the sanctions, with the article even dedicating a subsection to it. And yet, there are no sactions, no restrictions. Now compare this with an article about RFA, which also has a subsection regarding China's forced disappearance of an editor's relatives. I think it would be best to do a thing similar to ARBPIA4 (
If there is confusion about which content is considered related, the content in question may be marked in the wiki source with an invisible comment.
) and comment the subsection. Of course, I will say that as I am involved, I am biased, so I will not go around attempting to challenge your decision. - @Chipmunkdavis: Involved like yourself? And no, it is not about the "credibility of a news org that reports on the topic", WP:RSN exists for this purpose. CPCEnjoyer (talk) 18:27, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
- If the impetus for the +US propaganda bit were to stem from a broader dispute which involves the Uyghur genocide, then I do deem it as "related content" ("related context"?). Again, it's a bit hazy. As for the example of the Gaza media building bombing over at the AP article: ARBPIA "related content" could be invoked for it if there was a dispute concerning that bombing incident (and anything related), but the prevailing practice is not to impose these sort of sanctions preemptively. El_C 18:57, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
- I would not say the +US propaganda bit stemmed from a "broader dispute", it was only mentioned once during the discussion of the addition in April, but I guess I understand why that is a concern.
As for the example of the Gaza media building bombing over at the AP article: ARBPIA "related content" could be invoked for it if there was a dispute concerning that bombing incident (and anything related), but the prevailing practice is not to impose these sort of sanctions preemptively.
This makes sense, thanks for explaining. CPCEnjoyer (talk) 19:38, 12 June 2021 (UTC)- CPCEnjoyer, maybe my language wasn't precise enough. What I meant to say was that I'm willing to bend the GS with "related context," as it were, if this renewed interest in Radio Free Asia was a spillover from Uyghur genocide -related disputes. This, because the sensitivity of the subject matter is off the charts. El_C 00:23, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- Except, this "renewed interest" wasn't a spillover, it was hounding first from My very best wishes due to my edit at Talk:Azov Battalion and then Volunteer Marek because of an SPI request.
This, because the sensitivity of the subject matter is off the charts.
Agreed, though I am not sure how 30/500 will fix it, other than allow two editors, who were previously punished for off-wiki coordination, remove sourced content from the article and stonewall it by not discussing on the talk page. CPCEnjoyer (talk) 11:50, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- CPCEnjoyer, maybe my language wasn't precise enough. What I meant to say was that I'm willing to bend the GS with "related context," as it were, if this renewed interest in Radio Free Asia was a spillover from Uyghur genocide -related disputes. This, because the sensitivity of the subject matter is off the charts. El_C 00:23, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- As I have been pinged, I have not been involved with the current dispute, and am unsure what the Editor Interaction Analyser is meant to show. CMD (talk) 00:59, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- If the impetus for the +US propaganda bit were to stem from a broader dispute which involves the Uyghur genocide, then I do deem it as "related content" ("related context"?). Again, it's a bit hazy. As for the example of the Gaza media building bombing over at the AP article: ARBPIA "related content" could be invoked for it if there was a dispute concerning that bombing incident (and anything related), but the prevailing practice is not to impose these sort of sanctions preemptively. El_C 18:57, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
- If I may interject, I wouldn't even claim it is borderline; to put this into contrast with Israeli-Palestinian conflict, a media building containing offices of AP news who report on the conflict has been bombed, a far more "direct relationship" to the conflict and thus the sanctions, with the article even dedicating a subsection to it. And yet, there are no sactions, no restrictions. Now compare this with an article about RFA, which also has a subsection regarding China's forced disappearance of an editor's relatives. I think it would be best to do a thing similar to ARBPIA4 (
- The point is that it neither falls under the scope of a "primary article" nor do the contested edits constitute "related content." That is what makes this hazy. El_C 17:49, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
- I can see how it may look borderline, but I also feel if this point was brought up by an involved editor I'd consider it wikilawyering. It's a content dispute about the credibility of a news org that reports on the topic. Not that there's a need to look into it right now, but most of those involved in the current discussion (on both 'sides' too so to speak) have also recently edited the Uyghur genocide article and/or talk page. (Not a commentary on your admin actions, just further context.) CMD (talk) 17:36, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
CPCEnjoyer, a couple of things. First, no accusing other editors of hounding or off-wiki coordination without evidence in the form of diffs, please. Not on my talk page, not anywhere. That counts as an WP:ASPERSION. At any event, if that is something you wish to pursue further, you should take it to the relevant noticeboard/project page. But as someone whose 2nd edit was to revert the Radio Free Asia page (April 10 diff), my sense is that you may be risking a WP:BOOMERANG there. Up to you, though. Regardless, I'd stress that this isn't something I wish to engage, here, on my talk page. Also, toolforge'ing CMD (which I just noticed) in a manner that comes across as too terse to be useful — that is also increasingly giving me WP:DISRUPTSIGNS vibe. Overall, I'm not sure there's further utility to continuing this conversation thread on my talk page at this time. El_C 14:55, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- First of all, I never accused them off off-wiki coordination, I said they were punished for it, it's a statement of fact (see WP:EEML and the list membership). As for the hounding "allegations", here you go:[7][8]. But "exposing" them was not my point, my point is that the notion that the "renewed interest" relates to Uyghur Genocide is not very concrete and I gave you the examples & the actual reasoning behind the "renewed interest". You yourself have said that the general sanctions (and the ECP by extension) are "borderline" and "hazy", and I thought this might help clear things up. CPCEnjoyer (talk) 15:33, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- CPCEnjoyer, oh, okay, EMML. Gotcha. As for hounding: I rarely if ever accept toolforge data as (the main) evidence about that. Such evidence ought to be the form of diffs. At any event, this isn't something I'm inclined to investigate further at this time, largely due to time/stamina constraints. Same with this GS action. To that: I acknowledge your position/clarification. If you change your mind and do choose to seek wider review regarding that logged one-year ECP, I'll note that I'm waiving any GS obstacles to amending/revoking this action on my part. Any uninvolved admin should feel free to make any alterations they see fit. I need not be consulted or even notified. El_C 15:43, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you for your replies & information, and sorry this dragged on for a while. CPCEnjoyer (talk) 16:09, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- CPCEnjoyer, oh, okay, EMML. Gotcha. As for hounding: I rarely if ever accept toolforge data as (the main) evidence about that. Such evidence ought to be the form of diffs. At any event, this isn't something I'm inclined to investigate further at this time, largely due to time/stamina constraints. Same with this GS action. To that: I acknowledge your position/clarification. If you change your mind and do choose to seek wider review regarding that logged one-year ECP, I'll note that I'm waiving any GS obstacles to amending/revoking this action on my part. Any uninvolved admin should feel free to make any alterations they see fit. I need not be consulted or even notified. El_C 15:43, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
Vandalism by user
I fondly remember fondly our previous interactions and am glad to cross paths with you again, even if under somewhat unfortunate circumstances. I just reverted an edit I judged to be vandalism by User:213.175.190.165. It looks like they have a history of vandalism and that you've previously warned you. What should I do in this type of circumstance? Should I alert the involved admin, like I'm doing now, or should I try to handle the situation myself in some way? Be well and stay safe, Benevolent human (talk) 18:55, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
- Hi, Benevolent human. That
warningblock was a year ago, so it may not even be the same individual. In any case: Blocked – for a period of one week. In answer to your question, report vandalism at WP:AIV or to an admin of your choosing, either works. Glad I made a positive impression.☺ Best, El_C 19:06, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
2021 whatchamacallit at the United States Capitol
Hi El_C, since you've been a peacemaker in January / February, I thought I'd bother you again. 2021 storming of the United States Capitol has recently been moved to 2021 United States Capitol attack, but a lot of people (myself included) believe there was no consensus. The move review is still open, but now someone started a new RfC... It looks like we're moving into the same mess we had four or five months ago. As far as I can tell, some of the involved editors are relatively new to Wikipedia, and many of those participating now were not involved in the RMs back then. I think it would be good if an experienced admin could keep an eye on it. If you don't have the time or energy, that's OK. In that case, you could point me to someone/somewhere else I could post a note like this? (I hope this doesn't look like I want to stifle or control the process. I don't. I just wouldn't like to see it devolve into a non-process again.) — Chrisahn (talk) 19:17, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
- Hey, Chrisahn. Sorry, I don't really have the time/stamina atm to revisit the naming disputes over the US Capitol Insurrection article/s. In answer to your question: I'm afraid no one specific comes to mind, whereas the move review is the proper place to contest any moves. If there is also an RfC that is somehow mirroring it (or similar), maybe bring that up at AN/ANI/AE, if you feel it should be, say, suspended in the interim. Good luck! El_C 20:19, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
Wikiproject mergers
Could you please close and determine consensus for the discussion at WPTC? There are some additional related comments here. NoahTalk 22:53, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
- Noah, sorry, but as noted directly above (large text), I'm not accepting ordinary requests at this time. Maybe list it at WP:ANRFC...? El_C 23:19, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
Dark Emu and Bruce Pascoe
See [9], [10] and [11]. I guess these articles might get mnre attention now. Doug Weller talk 18:42, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
- Interesting. Strong sources. Looks like Farmers Or Hunter-Gatherers? (a red link at the time of my writing this) needs to be created — brief mention of the book at Peter Sutton (anthropologist), whereas a glance at the scholar.google.com.au entry for Keryn Walshe shows that she is also deserving of a page. Anyway, robust debate is always welcome at related talk pages to ensure the respective articles reflect current academic thinking. El_C 05:36, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
- sorry to stickybeak (now you really know I'm from Aus) but I have Sutton and Walshe's book (very impressive so far). Do you recommend creating a standalone page for it El_C Doug Weller? Noteduck (talk) 05:30, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
- Yes! But, hey, if you wanna be a Duck Influencer (WARNING! XXX-RATED!), you might have to do some unmentionable things... El_C 06:42, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
- hahaha nice. Actually, the admittedly silly moniker Noteduck comes from back in the days of Runescape (showing my age). This much more experienced player said to me "names here are getting dumber all the time, I swear people just lump two random words together. You see players with names like note-duck or whatever the hell else." And it turns out, years and years later, the name Noteduck was pretty hard to forget! Noteduck (talk) 09:40, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
- Yes! But, hey, if you wanna be a Duck Influencer (WARNING! XXX-RATED!), you might have to do some unmentionable things... El_C 06:42, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
- sorry to stickybeak (now you really know I'm from Aus) but I have Sutton and Walshe's book (very impressive so far). Do you recommend creating a standalone page for it El_C Doug Weller? Noteduck (talk) 05:30, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
Question
Dear @El C, hope you're doing well. I wanted to hear an additional opinion and thought about asking it here if you don't mind. I had a long discussion in the Zangezur corridor talk page whether these addition are appropriate or ought to included after every Aliev land claim over Armenia [1] [2] [3]. All the arguments are presented in the discussion, if you can, please take a look. I want another third opinion, and I thought since you were involved with AA topics and that you have alot of experience, asking you was my first choice. I just don't understand why after every Aliev land claim over Armenia, which he has done many times over the years [4] [5] [6] [7] [8], hinting at irredentism (I was told that presumably I can't call those claims "irredentist" if there are no sources saying that it is), there needs to be synthesized and included what seems like an apologia quote from a press conference talk. These additions after every land claim just give the false impression to the reader that Aliev *actually* has no land claims or "territorial claims" over Armenia.
I just find this inclusions of the same apologia quote so bizarre and it troubles me how my fellow editors don't see it that way, and persistently argue to keep it. We're here arguing whether a dictator's territorial claims were "clarified" by him or not from a random press conference, or why it even needs to be synthesized and included in the first place, meanwhile just recently, Azerbaijan already infiltrated parts of Armenia Lake Sev#2021 Armenia–Azerbaijan border crisis.
How are these additions to every Aliev land claim display to the reader how the situation actually is and what Azerbaijan is currently doing.
A) Aliev clearly has history of territorial claims over Armenia, directly a quote from Az president's website from 2014:
"Our development will be continued even more rapidly. Therefore, the issue of restoration of our territorial integrity will be resolved without a doubt. Let no-one have any doubts about that. At the same time, I have repeatedly talked about this and want to say again that the Azerbaijanis must return to all our historical lands in the future. And our historical lands are not limited to Nagorno-Karabakh and surrounding regions. If we look at the recent history and the statistics of the 19th century, we can see that the area populated by the Azerbaijanis was very large. The present-day Armenia is actually located on historical lands of Azerbaijan. Therefore, we will return to all our historical lands in the future. This should be known to young people and children. We must live, we live and we will continue to live with this idea."[7]
B) Not only he has claims over Armenian territory (this isn't about Karabakh btw, I'm talking about Armenia proper), but as I showed above, Aliev's already doing it, in Lake Sev most recent and prominent one.
Could you please give your thoughts about this and whether supposed "clarification" ought to be included after every Aliev land claim, when clearly, the reality is a lot more in line with what Aliev actually claims and does. And I feel like this addition by Grandmaster: "We will remember our history, but we have no territorial claims to any country, including Armenia" [1] [2] [3], is just an attempt to false balance and again, doesn't portray what the reality is to the reader.
Many thanks in advance. Regards, ZaniGiovanni (talk) 14:03, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
For the record, I was told that other third opinions can be asked, quote from Grandmaster: "I have requested a third opinion from a person who was previously involved with AA topics. Feel free to ask for more third opinions."
- Hello, ZaniGiovanni. I'm sorry, but I'm not accepting requests of that nature at this time (nor is the overall topic area one with which I'm particularly familiar). Yes, Grandmaster seeking a third opinion is fine, though hopefully, the editor being solicited doesn't display partisanship for either side. The WP:3O mechanism can help with that. Regards, El_C 15:02, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
- No worries. Best wishes, ZaniGiovanni (talk) 16:53, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
Still remember Peacetowikied?
I had to think of you when this editor came across my wikipedia experience. You blocked him in August 2020. There is an editor who seems to like the same image as Peacetowikied. The recently blocked had a rather disruptive behavior to term it super-diplomatically. Peacetowikied at least had peace in his username. Anyway, both editors are blocked indef. for now.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 19:15, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
- Maybe you could change the visibility of this edit.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 19:22, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
- Paradise Chronicle, vaguely. Sorry, but I don't think there's a need to revdel that (double-middle finger ASCII) edit from 2013. El_C 19:41, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
- Ah, ok. It also doesn't bother me. And I didn't grasp that the edit is from 2013. Best wishes and happy editing.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 19:48, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks, same to you. El_C 20:10, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
- Ah, ok. It also doesn't bother me. And I didn't grasp that the edit is from 2013. Best wishes and happy editing.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 19:48, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
- Paradise Chronicle, vaguely. Sorry, but I don't think there's a need to revdel that (double-middle finger ASCII) edit from 2013. El_C 19:41, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
COVID-19 accepted and resolved by motion
The Origins of COVID-19 case request you are a party to has been accepted under the name COVID-19 and resolved by motion with one remedy which supersedes the community authorized general sanctions with discretionary sanctions. Sanctions made under the previous community general sanctions are now discretionary sanctions and alerts made under the community GS are now DS alerts. For the Arbitration Committee, Dreamy Jazz talk to me | my contributions 23:47, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
Disruptive edits
Someone from the UK has been obsessively disrupting pages about religions (Islam in Turkey, Islam in Tunusia, Yazdanism, Alevism, Islam...)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/213.107.66.4
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/80.2.21.124
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/92.234.73.94
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/217.137.42.32
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/213.107.1.41
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/217.137.41.183
They used at least 5 different ips to revert user:KurdeEzidi on a page yesterday. I am reading & contributing on those pages recently (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/46.221.85.78) and have been noticing those disruptive ips on many pages about religions.
I suspect that they are probably this blocked ip:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/92.40.183.184
46.221.74.215 (talk) 08:03, 17 June 2021
- IP, since Bradv is the one who CU-blocked the IP whom you suspect of being the master, maybe ask them to investigate...? El_C 10:52, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
Appeal
I am appealing at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Astral_Leap_appealing --Astral Leap (talk) 09:55, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
Sunshine
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Happy first day of summer, El C!! Interstellarity (talk) 14:25, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks, Interstellarity, and same to you. El_C 14:30, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
June thanks
Thank you for protecting articles in June, with some impressions of places, flowers and music for you. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:14, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
- Cool, will check it out. Thanks for sharing! El_C 21:51, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
- Really nice. Also, the presentation (visuals) is putting Songspam to shame... El_C 05:38, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
- thank you ;) - added: missing SlimVirgin, and RMF festival opening - violin concerto and reformation --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:15, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
- Incredible. It doesn't get better than this! El_C 21:01, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
- That in memoriam made me shed a tear... El_C 21:06, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
- understand, both, going to work on Psalm 86, in memory, and another will be Psalm 30, talking about dust and death and morning light - someone else supplied the Hebrew for that one some time ago --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:10, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
- thank you ;) - added: missing SlimVirgin, and RMF festival opening - violin concerto and reformation --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:15, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
- Really nice. Also, the presentation (visuals) is putting Songspam to shame... El_C 05:38, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
Requesting reduction in protection to "Permanent semi-protected" so we can open up the page to another section of Wikipedia editors. (Added bonus is we are treating it the same as the Labour Party so it wont seem like playing favoritism!) Of course if the sockpuppetry continues, I will have no problem increasing protection permanently again! B. M. L. Peters (talk) 03:14, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
- Sure, B. M. L. Peters, I'll test the waters, though political equivalencies isn't a determining factor when it comes to protection levels. And on that note, if the protection needs to be upgraded again, I'm unlikely to leave it at just six months (more like a minimum of a year plus). El_C 05:38, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
Semi-protection at Ilhan Omar
Hi El C, you indicated in an edit summary that you wanted a reminder to restore indef semi-protection to Ilhan Omar after the one-week protection ended. Firefangledfeathers (talk) 18:20, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
- Hey, Firefangledfeathers. Done. Thanks for the reminder, I appreciate it. Regards, El_C 18:49, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
I agree with you...
....about Omar. I hinted as much when I put on the year's protection. If any further proof was needed: less than half an hour after the full protection expired - in other words while the article was very briefly unprotected - there was another BLP violation by another IP. I even wonder if that article is going to have to go to ECP, but for now I completely agree with indef semi. -- MelanieN (talk) 23:59, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
- Cool, thanks, Melanie. I'm relieved you feel this way — I can be a bit toe-steppy at times (working on it). Right, I caught the tail end of that conspiracy theory BLP vio earlier today. Yeah, ECP may well be in the cards for that page. As an aside, I'm often a bit puzzled as to why certain contentious high profile pages work well enough with semi, while others need ECP. Like, United States being fine at semi, but India needing ECP. A bit of a mystery, tbh. El_C 00:59, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
IP 81.214.82.158
81.214.82.158 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Hi El C, got another one here;
Because I reverted his edits at Xiongnu [12], which attempted to push a Turkic origin, completely ignoring the other theories, he proceeded to spam my talk page
[13] same comment here
[14] edit summary; 'no.Because of pan-Iranians like you, Wikipedia's accuracy has declined.'
can i talk u in discord or instagram? can you give it to me if you have an account
--HistoryofIran (talk) 20:38, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
- Blocked – for a period of 2 months with everything disabled. El_C 21:34, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
Just FYI - Immediately after your one week protection of Joke Singh expired, newly registered editors were back to vandalising it. I posted the page at WP:RPP. Thanks. 10mmsocket (talk) 08:28, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- Already protected by administrator Malinaccier. El_C 23:14, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
Hello. I have an old one for you. You blocked this user back in August 2020. They were advised of the standard offer the next day by another admin. See User talk:YashPratap1912#Standard offer
They have been asking for an unblock and getting ignored for some time now. They seem to have expressed an understanding as to why they were blocked and made a clear promise not to engage in the same behavior. They have also described areas that they intend to edit in. They have also gone well over 6 months without visible problematic behavior.
I have had a checkuser confirm that there is no technical evidence of evasion in the last 6 months.
Before doing anything I wanted to consult with you. My understanding is that they were blocked for misusing multiple accounts, possibly in a deletion discussion, though I am having trouble finding the discussion in question. Perhaps you remember the details?
I want to make sure there was nothing egregious like death threats or extended block evasion or anything else that would preclude the standard offer. I also want to know how you personally feel about the matter.
If they are unblocked I will be monitoring their talk page for troubles and have already informed them that they can be reblocked if there is any trouble. Thank you for your time. HighInBC Need help? Just ask. 22:52, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- Hey. No, sorry, I am unable to recollect the details there. Maybe Prax remembers, as she's the one who filed the report in question... Regards, El_C 23:14, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks, sounds good. Am a bit in transit atm, so writing in haste — I was only able to glance at the thing. El_C 23:38, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
Jalen Green protection
Hi El C, thanks for protecting Jalen Green. I noted that you only protected it until July 3. Given that it has already been protected once this year and was the target of vandalism by multiple IPs in the last few days, none of which will be over until he is actually drafted, I ask that you extend protection until after the NBA draft.--User:Namiba 13:34, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
- Sigh, obviously, I can't tell time. And I think now I've gone too far (Sept. 6). Well, gah, I'm done touching it. Obviously, I lack the competence in which to do so! El_C 13:39, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you! You may want to keep an eye on Evan Mobley as well. I found someone snuck-in draft speculation as well.--User:Namiba 14:27, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
- Heh, sure, I guess. Recommended length? El_C 14:37, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
- I recommend August 1, which is two days after the upcoming NBA draft.--User:Namiba 14:39, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
- Shit, I fucked it up again. El_C 14:41, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
- User:Billy Goober introduced a deliberate factual error into Cade Cunningham after you added the protection. Looking at their talk page, it seems that this is their MO. Could you block them?--User:Namiba 15:47, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
- Blocked indefinitely. El_C 18:10, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
- User:Billy Goober introduced a deliberate factual error into Cade Cunningham after you added the protection. Looking at their talk page, it seems that this is their MO. Could you block them?--User:Namiba 15:47, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
- Shit, I fucked it up again. El_C 14:41, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
- I recommend August 1, which is two days after the upcoming NBA draft.--User:Namiba 14:39, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
- Heh, sure, I guess. Recommended length? El_C 14:37, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you! You may want to keep an eye on Evan Mobley as well. I found someone snuck-in draft speculation as well.--User:Namiba 14:27, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
@El C: Hi, once again... This disruptive user Лобачев Владимир simply refuses to give up and wants to start a new edit warring at article Pahonia by reinserting already removed information (HIS EDIT). You gave a warning to stop such malicious activity at this article, but he clearly doesn't care. Can he be finally blocked for his malicious activity? Otherwise, he will obviously perform it again and again, and again because he doesn't care about warnings. He has also recently performed edit warring at article Moldavia (here is warning to him for 3RR rule violation). He was also warned for disruptive editing already in 2018 (warning from his talk page). Please finally stop this disruptive user who constantly provokes edit warring and violates various rules of Wikipedia. -- Pofka (talk) 14:05, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
- Hi. Sorry, but I'd rather not follow up on this single-handedly at this time. Recommend filing a report at a noticeboard of your choosing — feel free to link it for me here (I may or may not comment there, we'll see). El_C 14:11, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
- @El C: I created a report about him here: Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Edit_warring#User:Лобачев_Владимир_reported_by_User:Pofka_(Result:_). Since you encountered his disruptive activity as well, your opinion would be very welcome. -- Pofka (talk) 19:45, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
- That report would be beyond too long for WP:AN/WP:ANI (and, if it was at WP:AE's, it'd be several times its 500-word limit), not to mention WP:AN3, where reports are generally a quarter of the size (if that). Recommend you trim and condense to a very significant extent. Finally, you've left several of the report's mandatory parameters blank (maybe they're answered in the lengthy body, I dunno). In short, this is a highly problematic report. El_C 20:46, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
- @El C: Well, I wished to show how systematic his edit warring is. He only edits Russia-related topics and attacks other countries. Truly disruptive user when he attempts to edit non-Russian topics. I shortened my initial report and your opinion is certainly welcome there: Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Edit_warring#User:Лобачев_Владимир_reported_by_User:Pofka_(Result:_). -- Pofka (talk) 22:16, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
- That report would be beyond too long for WP:AN/WP:ANI (and, if it was at WP:AE's, it'd be several times its 500-word limit), not to mention WP:AN3, where reports are generally a quarter of the size (if that). Recommend you trim and condense to a very significant extent. Finally, you've left several of the report's mandatory parameters blank (maybe they're answered in the lengthy body, I dunno). In short, this is a highly problematic report. El_C 20:46, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
- @El C: I created a report about him here: Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Edit_warring#User:Лобачев_Владимир_reported_by_User:Pofka_(Result:_). Since you encountered his disruptive activity as well, your opinion would be very welcome. -- Pofka (talk) 19:45, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
Block this user
User talk:Amaan4210 he is removing sourced content continuously without explaining, you can check Pakistan article, I request you to please stop his disruptive edit and block him... Sumit (talk) 05:07, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
Hey, I'd like to you look at Fidesz, it seems like the page is under attack by a sockpuppet named SmalforaGiant, a lot of information was added without previous consensus on the talk page. I did revert their edits but some unknown user has reverted them back. I've RPPed the page just in case but again I need someone to take a look. There was also a sockpuppet investigation launched 3 days ago by Martopa here since three different IPs with same edits have been doing this on a couple of different pages. Cheers, --Vacant0 (talk) 13:32, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
- Hi. Sorry, but I'm not accepting requests of that nature at this time. Regards, El_C 13:41, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
Ma al-'Aynayn
Hi El C. could you please have a word with Marmandie? Basically, they kept adding nonsensical material to the Ma al-'Aynayn article and edit warring over it. My attempts at trying to explain to them that what they are doing is nonsensical made no difference and now they are adding irrelevant/nationalist content to the article. Thanks. M.Bitton (talk) 14:08, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
- I mean, at a glance, while it is rather poorly-written and poorly-integrated into the existing prose, I'm not sure it goes beyond a content dispute that should be resolved on the article talk page. Feel free to get a 2nd opinion, though. Regards, El_C 14:15, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
- It's WP:SYNTH (the whole thing is unsourced and unattributable). That being said, I'll think about it. Regards, M.Bitton (talk) 14:30, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
- I don't necessarily disagree, but speaking for myself (only), I think it'd probably be better to get all that on the article talk page-record, rather than have an admin force it away by fiat. Best, El_C 14:54, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
- It's WP:SYNTH (the whole thing is unsourced and unattributable). That being said, I'll think about it. Regards, M.Bitton (talk) 14:30, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
You look like a man who realizes Canada's residential schools are defunct
Wanna help with a persistent main page error? Just seven bytes to you, but "former" is a powerful word for us. And nice to hear for native Minnesotans, too, probably. InedibleHulk (talk) 21:37, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
- I dunno, maybe I'm ESL'ing up the flow of it, but my read is that "site of" could be seen to imply that, without the former. In any case, I wouldn't feel confident enough to amend it single-handedly, so it's probably best to gauge the views of other WP:ITNC participants and go from there... El_C 21:55, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
- There are no participants to gauge at Errors, just me waiting. A site is where something is, and a former site is where it was, trust me. Regardless of whether you accept this mission, it's solid English (for physical things, anyway, event sites are forever). InedibleHulk (talk) 22:12, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
- Not sure I understand. I count six other participants in the WP:ERRORS thread and many more in the ITNC one... Sorry, feeling a bit missioned-out today. El_C 22:25, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
- Three were talking about a topically related but different error, and three about a Florida condo. But no worries. Someone else will either do it or it simply won't be done. InedibleHulk (talk) 22:32, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
- Well, that got a tad bit trubulent —glad I stayed away, then— but it looks like your formula persevered. And as for me, I learned nothing! El_C 18:39, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
- Damn. I'd have guessed the roles reversed, Stephen for "former school" and Brad for "former site". But at least I didn't have to resort to correcting either of them! You made the right choice, for sure. Thanks for nothing, not even sarcastically! InedibleHulk (talk) 18:57, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
- I live to give! El_C 20:03, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
- And I'd rather die than use this browser's YouTube! But yeah, seems impressive from this side. I'll remember that video ID, and thank or criticize you for it later, whatever is appropriate. InedibleHulk (talk) 20:12, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
- I live to give! El_C 20:03, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
- Damn. I'd have guessed the roles reversed, Stephen for "former school" and Brad for "former site". But at least I didn't have to resort to correcting either of them! You made the right choice, for sure. Thanks for nothing, not even sarcastically! InedibleHulk (talk) 18:57, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
- Well, that got a tad bit trubulent —glad I stayed away, then— but it looks like your formula persevered. And as for me, I learned nothing! El_C 18:39, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
- Three were talking about a topically related but different error, and three about a Florida condo. But no worries. Someone else will either do it or it simply won't be done. InedibleHulk (talk) 22:32, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
- Not sure I understand. I count six other participants in the WP:ERRORS thread and many more in the ITNC one... Sorry, feeling a bit missioned-out today. El_C 22:25, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
- There are no participants to gauge at Errors, just me waiting. A site is where something is, and a former site is where it was, trust me. Regardless of whether you accept this mission, it's solid English (for physical things, anyway, event sites are forever). InedibleHulk (talk) 22:12, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
Dear Finland...
(←) It was fun while it lasted... now you're just randomly apologizing to Finland for reasons unknown! DanCherek (talk) 02:47, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
- And that's when I realized that I would have to use my dancing technique to win this match... El_C 03:55, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
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Michaelm
Did you not ban User:Michaelm? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Moxy (talk • contribs)
- Hmm. I guess I didn't click the sitewide button, now Done. El_C 13:32, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
British royal family
I assume you don't follow the British red tops? They're in one of their periodical feeding frenzies, for reasons I have no interest at all in trying to understand. As usual, it's basically uninformed he said/she said speculation. The Forgers' Gazette has even been running a series on new explanations for the Death of Diana, traditionally the preserve of the Daily Excrement. Narky Blert (talk) 21:00, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
- Heh, I'm more of an Independent man myself, truth be told. The funny thing about the Daily Express is that Google News indexes its nonsense to me like it's crack! Doesn't matter which English-language version (US/UK/CAN/OZ/NZ) — I never, ever visit it, yet it still doesn't leave me be. Only on the Hebrew version do I get some reprieve. One's interest in certain publications can ebb and flow. For example, when I was a kid, Davar would bore me to tears, but now I can't do without it. Some publications, though, the trees weep. El_C 21:58, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
Could ye take a look at the history please. Cheers! ——Serial 12:25, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
- Blocked – for a period of one month. Cue the usual I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today — what, it's Wed.! El_C 12:31, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
- A quick video clip for any talk page watchers unfamiliar with the phrase :-) El C that just means you have 6 days to save up your pennies. Gads I am so old I remember when a couple burger franchises would have "10 burgers for 25 cents" deals on a Tuesday :-P MarnetteD|Talk 12:37, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
- As I've grown older, I've become more of a burger snob, I'll confess that much... I still remember when Burgeranch was first introduced to me back in the homeland. Paradigm shift. El_C 12:41, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
Rojava Protection (?)
Hello, what is the exact reason of Rojava page protection update? I don't demand decrease. BerkBerk68 (talk) 21:28, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
- Hey. In answer to your query: there was, like, a dozen reverts in the span of a day or two. As I noted at RfPP (diff), I am open to downgrading in the not too distant future. Regards, El_C 09:35, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
- Okay thanks BerkBerk68 (talk) 10:34, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
Check this article
Hello, I want that you see this article once and if I or someone else has made a mistake in editing it, then correct it.(Article- Hajipur ) I want to make this article better, its an request... Thank you... ItsSkV08 (talk) 03:42, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
- Hi. Sorry, but this isn't a subject matter with which I am familiar. Perhaps participants at WP:IN would be willing to lend a hand...? Regards, El_C 09:38, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
Cr1TiKaL
Hey i see you semi protected Cr1TiKaL and i just wanted to thank you for it. My question is can you make the protection permanent like other youtubers because it seems the protection expires in September. Thank you. MrMclovin (talk) 04:12, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
- Hi, MrMclovin (great username, btw!). For sure, you're welcome, glad I could help. However, that page isn't a candidate for indef semi at this time. With there only having been 2-3 protection actions, there would have to be some rather exceptional circumstances and/or egregious misconduct to justify such a measure. If anything, with Charlie's YouTube channel approaching 10 mil, he's more of a public figure than some lesser known living persons, whom, due to their notability being more borderline, are more likely to be indef semi'd upon request (again, barring the exceptional stuff). I'll also note that being a YouTuber (or any internet content creator) isn't really a metric in this regard. Finally, for context, I've indef semi'd more than one page that, literally, had tens of previous protections (not that I'm suggesting that here, or in general). Welcome to the project! Regards, El_C 09:51, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
Thank you for explaining. MrMclovin (talk) 02:14, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
Evyatar page protection request
Hi El C, I saw that you declined the page protection request for Evyatar as pre-emptive. I completely agree that is pre-emptive, but respectfully disagree with that as a reason not to protect the page. My understanding of the Arbitration Committee rulings on the Israel-Palestine conflict is that articles related to the conflict are supposed to be given pre-emptive 500/30 protection. Evyatar is an Israeli outpost in the West Bank, which makes it a prime candidate for this protection. If I have misunderstood the rulings then please accept my apologies. RoanokeVirginia (talk) 13:41, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
- RoanokeVirginia, years back, I preemptively protected tens of ARBPIA pages (well over a hundred), mostly in one fell swoop. This preemptive protection of ARBPIA pages was the prevailing practice at the time. But, a couple of years after that, a consensus emerged among several of us admins who were most active at RfPP to not do that anymore, which has been the prevailing practice ever since. Perhaps it's worth asking the Committee to clarify whether that's okay...? If it isn't, I'll likely just be ignoring these requests rather than declining them outright. Regards, El_C 13:49, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for the prompt and informative response. I think asking the Committee would be a good idea as the rulings summary page could be more explicit on this, but I am not sure how to go about this, any guidance or help would be greatly appreciated. RoanokeVirginia (talk) 14:30, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
- No problem. Happy to do that myself. If I've yet to do so by, say, Monday — remind me. Regards, El_C 16:33, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for the prompt and informative response. I think asking the Committee would be a good idea as the rulings summary page could be more explicit on this, but I am not sure how to go about this, any guidance or help would be greatly appreciated. RoanokeVirginia (talk) 14:30, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
RoanokeVirginia, just noting that the settlement was vacated without incident today (diff), and, not to jinx it, also without incident here on Wikipedia. El_C 16:10, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
Protecting versus blocking
This is regarding Manticore (talk · contribs), and why I didn't full-protect the article instead of partially blocking the two editors reverting each other.
Before partial blocks existed, I would have protected. Nobody likes to be blocked. Even though I know that blocks are only ever placed to prevent disruption and are never punishment and never personal, they still brass people off, because they stay as a permanent record on your user log for ever and ever, with all context for them stripped away.
However, not all administrators agree with this approach. For example, in Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Robert McClenon 2, Iridescent wrote "This [protecting instead of blocking] is directly contrary to both established Wikipedia policy and to custom and practice, in which the only occasions full protection should be considered as a response to a content dispute are multi-party disputes in which so many people are involved that blocking is not a realistic option—remember, every time you protect a page you're preventing everyone from editing it, not just the people involved in the dispute." Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 14:05, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
- Ritchie333, no, that's not right for this case. If I see someone making three reverts like that (i.e. in relative isolation), I fully-protect the page to prevent them from reverting a 4th time and running foul of WP:3RR. Because, in this case, who cares if the bio of some Slovakian sprinter is protected for a day along with some innocuous protection log entry (which does not single any one individual by name). But a block log is for life. El_C 16:00, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
July corner
Last year's flowers match the image on the user page nicely, see? - DYK that her last reply to me was in a thread Green for hope? - The DYK set for Yoninah will appear tomorrow, including Psalm 85, with the kiss of justice and peace. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:09, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks, Gerda. It means a lot. El_C 13:20, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
- Can you help us to the Hebrew for Psalm 123? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:44, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
- Got it: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Quality_Article_Improvement/Psalms#123. El_C 20:04, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, I must have saved an old version - and didn't notice. Restored, I hope. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:09, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
- Happy again! El_C 20:10, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
- Relief! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:39, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
- Happy again! El_C 20:10, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, I must have saved an old version - and didn't notice. Restored, I hope. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:09, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
- Got it: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Quality_Article_Improvement/Psalms#123. El_C 20:04, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
- Can you help us to the Hebrew for Psalm 123? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:44, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
Request
I need some help to really leave for my own health, which is not compatible with the en.wp environment. My request: please delete all my empty user-space pages, permanently block me, including throughout my own user space and protect my user space against edits by non-admins. Otherwise, please point me to where I might find an admin who might be prepared to do so. —Quondum 11:00, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
- Very sorry to see you go, Quondum, but of course your health comes first. Please ping me if and/or when you're ready to come back. And thank you. Thank you for all that you've done to keep science honest on the project. Best wishes and kind regards, El_C 13:25, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
- A blast from the past! (circa 2002). El_C 08:40, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
- For when just plain Distractions are afoot. El_C 16:54, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
- Everyone is Everyone (and Everything is Everything). El_C 23:02, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
Lyrics:
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(Intro)
(Verse one)
(Chorus)
(Outro)
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- Live with Me. El_C 23:52, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
- River Man. El_C 00:05, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
Memories of Spain
- El_C 23:29, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
- Chick and Hiromi my 2p. regards. -Roxy the sycamore. wooF 16:20, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
Resting: a compilation
- What Is This — El_C 18:16, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
- Tell Me Where — El_C 10:03, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
- Nothing Nice — El_C 22:25, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
- Quiet Nights — El_C 10:08, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
- Dear Limmertz (Hello, guitar! Hello, Good Waves) — El_C 10:11, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
- Que Se Sepa — El_C 10:14, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
- Mina Do Condominio — El_C 10:04, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
The return of Remix surfing
Be Honest — El_C 22:47, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
Wade in the Water — El_C 22:47, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
Summertime Ride — El_C 22:47, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
This Thing — El_C 22:47, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
Barrio — El_C 16:51, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
Maybe I'll be Tracer... — El_C 16:42, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
O Mary Don't You Weep — El_C 11:40, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
Love Intersection — El_C 18:52, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
Inside — El_C 05:46, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
Cosmix — El_C 15:42, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
Let Me In — El_C 15:11, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
Find You — El_C 13:23, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
Bossa 31 — El_C 16:36, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
Recado Bossa Nova — El_C 13:01, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
Just The Two Of Us — El_C 00:56, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
Unless You Love Me — El_C 11:33, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
A New Born Day — El_C 11:33, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
Inspiration Zone El_C 11:33, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
Elektric City — El_C 13:50, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
Kiss from a Rose — El_C 06:22, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
Chris Hedges: "The Meaning of Christmas" (December 27, 2020). El_C 23:50, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
- Sorry, everyone, I will not be accepting any new requests for the immediate moment. In the meantime, enjoy the music! (Also here) El_C 18:33, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
- Now also introducing Buck Flower, security guard (challenging times ahead!). El_C 12:46, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
Glad to see you are still around!
Don't know why, but I seem to recall a while back seeing a "semi-retired" banner on your page. Great to see that it is not so. Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia (talk) 14:22, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for your kind sentiment, Gabriel, I appreciate that. But, no, I've never used a retired/semi-retired banner before. Best, El_C 14:28, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
Update
I know you're "not taking requests" at the moment, but since you're more involved in the issue of Volunteer Marek's behavior than anyone else,[16][17][18] I'm keeping you appraised:
- 18:47, 27 April 2021 Falsely accuses an editor of canvassing
- 18:20, 18 June 2021 False aspersions,[19] which he then repeats throughout the discussion[20]
- 18:25, 18 June 2021 Insult and false aspersions (and he's wrong about the count)
- 19:40, 18 June 2021 Insult (also wrong [21])
- 01:04, 19 June 2021 Asked to avoid making accusations in edit summaries
- 14:17, 19 June 2021 Asked to AGF
- 18:20, 19 June 2021 False accusation[22]
- 19:37, 19 June 2021, 19:39, 19 June 2021, 19:52, 19 June 2021 PAs, Aspersions and insults
- 01:35, 21 June 2021 False accusations[23]
- 08:08, 28 June 2021 False accusation[24]
- 08:00, 7 July 2021 Again with Icewhiz
That's five editors, two ANIs[25][26] and a lot of time wasted, when his actual contribution to these articles is close to nil.[27][28][29]
Cheers. François Robere (talk) 11:21, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
- François Robere, I guess I should emphasize that I'm definitely not taking requests right now that are gonna depress me! Regards, El_C 12:07, 7 July 2021 (UTC)