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Hopefully ya'all can find something of use in all that. — <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b>[[User:Ched|Ched]]</b> : [[User_talk:Ched|<font style="color:#FFFFFF;background:#0000fa;"> ? </font>]]</span></small> 21:48, 14 February 2015 (UTC) |
Hopefully ya'all can find something of use in all that. — <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b>[[User:Ched|Ched]]</b> : [[User_talk:Ched|<font style="color:#FFFFFF;background:#0000fa;"> ? </font>]]</span></small> 21:48, 14 February 2015 (UTC) |
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::I'm sorry,{{ping|Chad}}, but I'm afraid you may have misunderstood the discussion. One group is arguing here that, because the usual reliable sources are biased against GamerGate, we need to take that into account -- and, specifically, that we should not repeat the preponderant conclusion of the reliable sources because the reliable sources are wrong. (This is not my position, but I am doing my best to state it fairly here.) I am repeating [[WP:FLAT]]: Wikipedia follows the sources, period. There's an extensive talk page archive, you'll have noticed; I'm not sure that you've read it. I've read it fairly extensively, to my sorrow, and written on it fairly extensively as well; those remarks have themselves been quoted in some interesting places (http://markBernstein.org/Feb15/Press.html). |
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::This page and its ancillary disputes, as you may know, has been the subject of RFCs, something like a dozen trips to AN/I, and a recently-concluded ArbCom case. |
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::In point of fact, my conclusion that “''there is nothing [in that topic] to discuss''” is very probably correct. The supposition that the reports of harassment are false or misattributed are reported by few or no reliable sources, while the contrary assertion has been reported by dozens, indeed hundreds, of reliable sources. There is in my judgment no likelihood that the discussion will change article space, for reasons I explained there. As there's no likelihood that this could eventuate in article space changes (and, if it did, it would cast the project in a very unfortunate light); there's no reason for the talk page discussion per WP:FORUM/WP:SYNTH/WP:OR. |
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::Thanks for your note. I'm trying really hard not to WP:BITE and I'm not sure whether I ought to be reading more into your message than superficially appears. I’m assuming that you've not been following the topic closely and so trying not to over-analyze. And I'm assuming that your not yet familiar with “Infamous”, “Thoughtless”, “Careless”, and “Reckless”. If I’m mistaken here, and I should be looking more closely for hidden meanings, do let me know -- and if you'd like to explore this in more detail, my email is always open. Can't write more now-- dealing with some press queries. [[User:MarkBernstein|MarkBernstein]] ([[User talk:MarkBernstein|talk]]) 22:30, 14 February 2015 (UTC) |