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:Just wondered if you had seen [[Wikipedia_talk:Irish_Wikipedians%27_notice_board#Irish_names_translated_to_English_names|this]], and does it bring the point home to you about the absurdity of the "translations" you were providing? --[[User:Sony-youth|<span style="font-family:Zapfino, sans-serif">sony-youth</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:Sony-youth|pléigh]]</sup> 16:44, 16 November 2007 (UTC) |
:Just wondered if you had seen [[Wikipedia_talk:Irish_Wikipedians%27_notice_board#Irish_names_translated_to_English_names|this]], and does it bring the point home to you about the absurdity of the "translations" you were providing? --[[User:Sony-youth|<span style="font-family:Zapfino, sans-serif">sony-youth</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:Sony-youth|pléigh]]</sup> 16:44, 16 November 2007 (UTC) |
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::"translating"/providing "sources" for translations - whatever it was you were doing, you can see now that it was absurd, yeah? --[[User:Sony-youth|<span style="font-family:Zapfino, sans-serif">sony-youth</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:Sony-youth|pléigh]]</sup> 17:43, 16 November 2007 (UTC) |
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Mediation 3
What do you mean BB has left due to a broken computer? Who is BB? Of course it's not a vote. Dreamy \*/!$! 19:37, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
- Brixton Buster. I seen the vote box at the top of the page? --Domer48 20:14, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
- Yes. That is not a vote box per se. It is merely for me to get my info. We will of course be having the discussion at length, these pages are merely for getting your thoughts down, for everyone to see. Your Grace Lord Sir Dreamy of Buckland tm 12:24, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
The Orange Institution content disputes
Hi, to try to resolve the impasse I have suggested an approach which I hope that editors might find useful to help to resolve the content disputes over the article Orange Institution: see Talk:Orange Institution#Moving_on.2C_starting_discussion. I am not a mediator, let alone a one-woman arbcom, so this is only a suggestion, and it may be that editors can find a more effective approach. However, I'm keen to see some progress towards settling those disputes, so I would be grateful if you could read that suggestion and see if it helps. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:41, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for your msg today: see my reply at User talk:BrownHairedGirl#Orange_Institution_editprotected. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:54, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
Harry Kirkpatrick
You will note I am expanding the list, I am particularly interested in the damage a Supergrass (informer) can do to a just cause. Aatomic1 13:54, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
- Could the number of people arrested no be enough! What does the list actually do? --Domer48 14:05, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
Please read everything
Please read and respond to everything in the discussion. You will see that the guidance you want to add does not apply to the category. 75.32.36.79 22:39, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
Editing comments
I didn't mean to. All I did was insert my comment within yours, to make it clear to what I responding. Many people seem to do that all the time on talk pages. If you don't like it, well, I apologise. No offence meant. Cheers, Neale Monks 18:36, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
Wind That Shakes the Barley music
What do you mean musically by "revised"? Is Pearse the performer or the composer? Did he reinterpret the song? Or did he add new lyrics or other new musical content to the composition itself? It's unclear as written. Thanks. --Melty girl 20:14, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for the link. It looks like Pearse only added lyrics, right? No music, correct? In that case, it's not really correct to say that he either "reinvented" it or "revised" it, since he didn't touch the music, and he didn't remove or rewrite the existing lyrics. It seems more correct to say that he "added verses". But I think the real problem here is that in The Wind That Shakes the Barley, there just isn't enough information about the song to help readers make sense of the clause about Pearse if they don't already know the whole story. "Amongst the songs on the film's soundtrack is 'Oró Sé do Bheatha 'Bhaile', a song revised by Padraig Pearse," is very vague. It only raises questions. Why should I care about this particular song? Who is Pearse? Who wrote it originally? I think it needs to explain in full what the significance and origin of the song is. --Melty girl 20:46, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
Great Irish Genocide
Shouldn't that be "relatively speaking"? One Night In Hackney303 08:30, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
Patrick Pearse
Hello there Domer48. You appear to have totally deleted or reverted my recent edit to enhance Padraig's story with material I feel should be included in order to have a complete understanding of his person, his political standpoint and the situation at the time. All of course negotiable and perhaps leading to a more interesting discussion than on his private life. I do admit I should have perhaps edited a little at a time rather than so much all at once which on this sacred gound can naturally trigger an over-reaction revert ?. I see you say something about "Copy Violation". Yes, I did quote Dudley word for word so as to avoid being accused of POV. I have no bother in finding similar non-copied alternate wording. Is this where I went wrong ?? Thanks for your advice. Greetings Osioni 18:14, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
The above named Arbitration case has closed. The Arbitration Committee decided that [a]ny user who hereafter engages in edit-warring or disruptive editing on these or related articles may be placed on Wikipedia:Probation by any uninvolved administrator. This may include any user who was a party to this case, or any other user after a warning has been given. The Committee also decided to uplift Vintagekits' indefinite block at the same time.
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For the Arbitration Committee, Daniel 08:26, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
List of YI books on Great Irish Famine
Hi there--just wanted to let you know I've removed this list again. In addition to already being in place at Young Ireland (how many places does it need to exist, really?), there's already a section for further reading. An article about an historical topic doesn't require an exhaustive list of all its primary sources; consider how quickly that would get out of hand. I'm not suggesting the YI sources themselves are somehow inappropriate (quite the opposite), but we should use them as sources to improve the article text. Dppowell 12:57, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for the message; I replied on the article talk page. Dppowell 13:40, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Protestant parliament for protestant people
It does make sense that he would wait 3 years to make that statement, if you read the context to his comments. I referenced it to the NIHOC Hansard somewhere, you can find it here. He was responding to a very specific taunt.Traditional unionist 11:38, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
Mediation 4
You can go to this page, and talk about it. Dreamy § 19:33, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
Martin Meehan
Might be best if you keep an eye on this too under the circumstances? One Night In Hackney303 15:46, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
- It's on watchlist. --Domer48 15:47, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
User:Dreamafter/Mediation/Answer/Summaries/Final/Discussion
Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks will lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you.--Domer48 18:07, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
This is not acceptable and will not be accepted. --Domer48 18:07, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
Ignorance
Ignorance is the condition of being uneducated, unaware, or uninformed. In this matter you are uninformed and there was no personal attack. Aatomic1 18:18, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
You wrote this in the mediation section
Birmingham pub bombings is nowhere near featured article status, so the argument that the lack of a memorial to dead Brummies is somehow preventing it being a featured article is specious.Aatomic1 20:54, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
"Domer has included Marylin Nash, 22 from Pelsall and Stephen Whalley, 21 from Bloxwich as dead Brummies." Did I say this? No! --Domer48 21:02, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
Irish names
Domer48, don't you get it? Names are names. They are facts. They are not just words, like prose or poetry, that can be freely translated. I don't know what you know about the Irish language, but for the vast majority of Anglicised surnames, there are a number of possible Irish-language originals. The page you are using[1] is not an authoritative source for determining someone's name in Irish. Although I use my Irish surname (it's on all my official documents and has been for most of my life), I've looked up my own English-language name and the "translation" is absolute codswollop in that it completely defies the laws of Irish grammar. Other names I've checked are similarly arbitrary. I know people by the name of Jennings who under no circumstances would use "Mac Sheoinín" as they consider it offensive.
This page is clearly serves the requirements of the GAA that Irish "versions" of players' (again, from my experience, usually conjured up without any consultation with the players themselves) names be submitted to the match officials before a game, but does not satisfy the requirements of an encyclopaedia. What you provide are subjective renderings of what can only be objective facts. This GAA list provides no guarantee that the "translations" it provides are actually the used surnames of the people concerned.
This is cúpla focailism at its worst and it does nothing at all for the Irish language and less for the articles concerned. Morevoer, it's clear that the people who posted up these "names" in the first place have non-existent or at least very limited understanding of it and I suspect you're little different in that regard. Taking out your frustration at not being able to speak Irish on Wikipedia is pathetic. An bhfuil aon Gaeilge agatsa ar cor ar bith? Níl gléas bolscaireachta ach teanga beatha í!--Damac 11:38, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
- Have you forgotten the IMOS that you so willingly quoted during the week.[2] Where is the evidence in your recent spate of edits that these names were used by the subjects of the articles?--Damac 12:04, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
You said the names were not sourced. I have provided a source. You are saying the source is not relilable, provide a reference for this, otherwise it's just comment and opinion. I'm willing to be helpful, read my contrabutions on the discussion page and your talk page, please assume good faith. --Domer48 12:10, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
- Just wondered if you had seen this, and does it bring the point home to you about the absurdity of the "translations" you were providing? --sony-youthpléigh 16:44, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
- "translating"/providing "sources" for translations - whatever it was you were doing, you can see now that it was absurd, yeah? --sony-youthpléigh 17:43, 16 November 2007 (UTC)