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:Thanks for that [[User:Daniel|Daniel]], I put something together and add it later. --<font face="Celtic">[[User:Domer48|<span style="color:#009900"><strong>Domer48</strong></span>]]<sub>''[[User talk:Domer48|<span style="color:#006600">'fenian'</span>]]''</sub></font> 08:47, 9 December 2008 (UTC) |
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Could you explain why you and your tag partner are reverting [[special category status]] to [[Special Category Status]]. [[User:Mooretwin|Mooretwin]] ([[User talk:Mooretwin|talk]]) 20:17, 11 December 2008 (UTC) |
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I've asked the referee panel to convene, as seen here. Thank you. --Tznkai (talk) 18:38, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks Tznkai, I hope it goes well. I did try to keep the mediation going but under the circumstances it proved impossible. While there are issues which were yet to be resoved, we now have a basis of understanding. I have learned from my experiance of mediation, reflected I hope in efforts on other articles I edited recently. --Domer48'fenian' 18:51, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
Regimental title
I've put a few sample things on the North Irish Horse talkpage. Largely though it's just how British Army unit naming practice works, if there's something in brackets in the middle of the unit title like that, it's part of the official name. In particular, see and you'll see similar practice for a number of RA regiments, sometimes place name derived, sometimes maintaining the name of a previous regiment that was converted to an artillery role. David Underdown (talk) 11:18, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
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I know. That's why I haven't re-edited yet.--Him and a dog 18:18, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
Hiya Domer48. The problem is, Wikipedia doesn't allow articles to have the same name. GoodDay (talk) 21:26, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
- I don't get what you mean? --Domer48'fenian' 21:28, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
- Some have argued that the island should be Ireland (which it currently is). Others have argued that Republic of Ireland should be moved to Ireland. We can't have both. GoodDay (talk) 21:32, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
Merge ROI into Ireland? Get rid of ROI, thats not the name of the country. --Domer48'fenian' 21:35, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
- Indeed the island & the republic have identical names. But they must remain seperate articles. If they were merged, the charge of Irish Nationalism PoV, would be made. GoodDay (talk) 21:38, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
Talk is cheap, and paper never refuses ink. You will get all kinds of accusations, and what is the alternative to Nationalism PoV? This is an Encyclopedia, we only deal with sources that are WP:RS and WP:V, accusations are simply that, accusations. Don't you agree? We are not here to pander to editors sensibilities. --Domer48'fenian' 21:47, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
- I would be amazed if a merge-proposal of Ireland with Republic of Ireland passed. I just can't see it happening. GoodDay (talk) 21:51, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
I bet you a pound to a penny if it was a source based discussion it would pass? --Domer48'fenian' 21:53, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
- But things like that don't happen here Domer as you should know by now the POV pushers scream the longest and loudest and sources don't come in to it. BigDuncTalk 21:57, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
Dunc in that case, you open a discussion and set clear ground rules such as comments must be supported with sources. This rules out the comment merchants. You request an outside mediator to ensure that the agreement is kept, and then you request a page move, to be reviewed by the mediator, and determined on the strenght of arguement and the sources provided? Now if there was a strict watch kept on civility and the WP:TPG you would have the makings of a good consensus, one difficult to over turn. But that is just my opinion. GoodDay if I though we could agree on the above conditions, I would be the first to make the call. --Domer48'fenian' 22:06, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
- You're right about the nastiness on those Ireland pages discussions (Ireland, Ireland (disambiguation) & Republic of Ireland), concering RMs. I've been on the 'injured list' for over a week now. GoodDay (talk) 22:10, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
Well when the election is over, run it by the ArbCom and I know if we get enough good will editors on board, we will have the makingings of a first class discussion and an agreed solution. --Domer48'fenian' 22:13, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
- I'll let someone else do that. I don't wanna get pulverized by the British (particularly Northern Irish). GoodDay (talk) 22:17, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
- I hate to be the party pooper, but that will never fly until there is unification. We have distinct articles on geographic/historical/cultural entities from political entities. See Korea for an example. Showing with every source in the world that the Island and the State have the same name will not supersede this, since we have a mechanism of disambiguating between them. The only way we would have a single article if Ireland (both the state and the island) was a single entity. Rockpocket 22:23, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
- That's why I can't see the 'merger proposal' succeeding, Domer. GoodDay (talk) 22:28, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
The odds and the vocal pitch dose not faze me at all. The weaker the argument they have the more vocal they become, hoping that yours becomes lost it their hyperbole. Now a discerning Admin would cut through this hyperbole and extract what is relevant and dismiss the rest in an ideal world. The only way to address this is to keep your comments succinct and to the point, and hope an Admin picks up on it. Why not draw up what you think would be a good set of ground rules for a discussion, and I’ll work on it with you? --Domer48'fenian' 22:36, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
- Are you asking me? If so, I think I'll decline because I not only think it is doomed to failure, but I also think it would leave the encyclopaedia worse off. I think its imperative we have two articles, one describing the island, one for the state. The issue that needs to be resolved is what each of them, and the page that disambiguates between them, are called. My already stated preference is Ireland (state), Ireland (island) and Ireland as the disambiguator. In articles where there is potential ambiguity, I would pipe depending on what is most appropriate grammatically and contextually. That might be ROI, it might be Irish Republic, it might the the Republic, it might be Ireland, the state, or it might be Ireland, the island. Its all about context. Rockpocket 22:52, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
Rock I'd never dream of putting you in such a position. LOL. I was just having a knock at your arguement on the other talk page, did you notice I'm sanction free now. If I never go back to AE it will be still too soon. --Domer48'fenian' 22:56, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
An Arbitration case in which you commented has been opened, and is located here. Please add any evidence you may wish the Arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Ireland article names/Evidence. Please submit your evidence within one week, if possible. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Ireland article names/Workshop.
On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Daniel (talk) 03:39, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for that Daniel, I put something together and add it later. --Domer48'fenian' 08:47, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
Special category status
Could you explain why you and your tag partner are reverting special category status to Special Category Status. Mooretwin (talk) 20:17, 11 December 2008 (UTC)