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:::It is not yet clear that the SmackBot can check ISBNs for validity if they are provided with the new 'isbn=' keyword of the cite book template. SmackBot works fine with the old method of using 'id=ISBN xxxxxxxxx' in 'cite book'. This is a current discussion [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Omegatron#COinS_tag], so I hope Rich Farmbrough will have something to say. [[User:EdJohnston|EdJohnston]] 22:18, 15 January 2007 (UTC) |
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== In search of free license histology images == |
== In search of free license histology images == |
Revision as of 22:18, 15 January 2007
This month's WP:MCB Article Improvement Drive article
– ClockworkSoul 22:50, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
Molecular and Cellular Biology WikiProject Votes
The Molecular and Cellular Biology WikiProject has recently opened two surveys that will help to decide the direction of the project. First, nominations are currently being accepted for the position of coordinator of the project. Second, votes and additional suggestions for the official title of that position are also being taken. As a member of the project, we hope that you'll drop by and voice your opinion. – ClockworkSoul 03:51, 18 September 2006 (UTC) |
This month's WP:MCB Article Improvement Drive article
– ClockworkSoul 21:03, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
PubMed tool ISBN feature suggestion
ISBN numbers are hyphenated in certain ways, but I have not been able to discover where to place the hyphens. Most internet sources of ISBNs do not list the hyphens. User:SmackBot sometimes goes through articles and corrects the hyphenation of ISBN numbers. It would be nice if putting an ISBN number into your PubMed tool would not only generate a citebook template, but correctly hyphenate the ISBN number, too. Lyrl Talk Contribs 22:50, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks for the suggestion. If someone suggests a way to determine proper hyphenation, then the likelihood of the feature making its way into the ISBN/PubMed tools would skyrocket. :-) --David Iberri (talk) 23:12, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
- Lyrl posted this question to User_talk:Rich Farmbrough; here is the discussion: [1]. I think it would be valuable if the PubMed tool could also produce correctly-hyphenated ISBNs. On the web, you can use isbn.org/converterpub.asp to do the hyphenation. This program also checks for validity and returns the ISBN-13 of the ISBN-10 that is input, but only the hyphenation and validity-checking are of current interest. If the PubMed tool could do this additional step, then the reference it allows you to create would have no need of the hyphenation-and-checking pass of the SmackBot. EdJohnston 19:05, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
- I came here to post the PDF with the hyphenation instructions from Mr. Farmbrough [2], and I see Ed beat me to linking to the ISBN check script that he uses. Lyrl Talk Contribs 21:15, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
- Excellent. For the time being I'm using the isbn.org converter, which seems to be working nicely (eg, [3]). Let me know if you experience any problems. --David Iberri (talk) 02:32, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
- I'm amazed at your quick turnaround on this suggestion! This is a tool I would start using for all my ISBN fixing if it could equal the converterpub.asp functionality. Some points from a quick trial:
- Excellent. For the time being I'm using the isbn.org converter, which seems to be working nicely (eg, [3]). Let me know if you experience any problems. --David Iberri (talk) 02:32, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
- Does not distinguish between invalid ISBNs and rare books. For example ISBN 85-7004-262-0 is a valid ISBN but belongs to an obscure book published in Brazil, which you can confirm by Googling the unhyphenated number (See 'Miscelanea' in Adriano da Gama Kury), while 0932112092 is an invalid ISBN. They both get "Could not find a book matching the given ISBN." Since invalid ISBNs are horrible, it is nice if they can be explicitly flagged. If it just can't find the info, that's fine, there are other places that a WP editor can try.
- Sometimes does not fill in the 'date' fields even though isbndb.com has the information. Example:ISBN 0-226-73936-8 (Schneider and Sagan). Sometimes does not fill in the 'location' field even though isbndb.com has the info ISBN 0-226-73936-8 (Bergmann book). In this case it's harmless because it just appends the location to the publisher field.
- Speaking just about the 'cite book' template (not an issue with your script) I have had problems with coauthors not printing out correctly; when time permits I'd like to try out your script to see if it can surmount that issue. EdJohnston 21:29, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
One more vote for the coordinator of the Molecular and Cellular Biology Wikiproject
Since two of the three editors nominated for Coordinator of the MCB Wikiproject declined their nominations, one more vote has been posted: should the remaining nominee, ClockworkSoul, be named as the coordinator, or should nominations be reopened? Every opinion counts, so please vote! – ClockworkSoul 17:46, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
Molecular and Cellular Biology Wikiproject Newsletter
The October edition of the Molecular and Cellular Biology Wikiproject Newsletter has been released. You can read it by visiting the newsletter page. – ClockworkSoul 19:30, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
This month's winner is proteasome!
– ClockworkSoul 22:09, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
Hi!
Thanks for replacing that erroneous image on brachioradialis. It's good to see editors respond when I notice something is off, even if I don't know how to fix it myself. I just wanted to say hi, I'm a first year med student who has found wikipedia to be a fantastic studying resource (in large part to the contributions of yourself and Arcadian, especially the work on the images from grey's anatomy). Robotsintrouble 23:59, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
html2wiki
First, thanks for the wonderful tool. I love it. I was wondering though, I got the command line version to work but is it possible to get your html (web based) code and also how you set up your configuration? Here is my email if you can zip it up and some notes: jbs12345@yahoo.com
Thanks Jbs12345 17:59, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
wikEd
Hi, I have seen that you are using the Cacycle editor extension. This program is no longer actively maintained in favor of its much more powerful successor wikEd.
wikEd has all the functionality of the old editor plus:• syntax highlighting • nifty image buttons • morefixing buttons • paste formatted text from Word or web pages• convert the formatted text into wikicode • adjustthe font size • and much, much more.
Switching to wikEd is easy, check the detailed installation description on its project homepage. Usually it is as simple as changing every occurrence of editor.js into wikEd.js on your User:YourUsername/monobook.js page.
Cacycle 21:50, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
Wikipedia template filling.
[pubmed citations] Your tool is great. Two suggestions
- Could you include the doi field? I suspect many users may not find their way thru PubMed to the full text of the article without a direct link.
- The tool did not work on an e ahead of print article (PMID 17008364). As issue and page are not known, the tool did not create these fields; however, the tool also did not create authors and year.
Thanks Badgettrg 16:27, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
Down.
[pubmed] The citation tool seems to be down for PMIDs. (It seems to be working for the other citation types.) --Arcadian 03:40, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
- Never mind -- it's working now -- sorry. --Arcadian 03:41, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
- It must be down again...seems to be missing an include (WWW/Search/PubMed/PMID.pm). BTW, are you willing to distribute your code? I'd be happy to host another copy since I use the tool all the time. --Dpryan 22:12, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
- Whoops, seem to have missed these messages. Is the site still down for you two? I'm able to reach it just fine. As for distributing the code, I'd be happy to. I just need a spare moment to tidy it up and upload it to CPAN. I'll let you know when it's ready. Thanks for the offer to host another copy. Cheers, David Iberri (talk) 15:39, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
It's down for me now. I use it pretty frequently, also, so this must be recent. Lyrl Talk Contribs 17:21, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks for the heads-up. Should be back up and running now. Apparently the reason it goes down periodically is that the html2wiki tool running on the same server is going into deep recursion from time to time. (That's mostly a note to myself to get that fixed some time during the holidays.) Cheers, David Iberri (talk) 17:40, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
Punctuation.
I love the tool for filling the journal filling citation. I've noticed one subtle irregularity with punctuation at the end of article titles. Most journal titles end with a period. The {{cite journal}} template places the article name in quotes, and then adds a period after the quote mark. For example:
- <ref name="Homer">{{cite journal | author = Simpson H | title = I like donuts. | journal = J Nuclear Power}}</ref>
produces in the reference list
- ^ Simpson H. "I like donuts.". J Nuclear Power.
Note the .". at the end of the article name. This is present in most of the pages I used the tool for, and I see it is on your Long-term potentiation article too. Perhaps a modification to the tool to strip the trailing period? The occasional article name may end with a question mark, but it would probably be correct to have a ?". in the citation. Dlodge 23:22, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for mentioning this. I've added a line that strips trailing periods from article titles, along with an option to disable this feature. Should make everyone happy hopefully. --David Iberri (talk) 00:31, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
Phantoms, spaces, isbn field.
The location at [4] has an extra "[", and the author at [5] has an extra "," — problem with the source? Also, can you remove the spaces before and after the =s and after the |s; and add the new "|isbn= |oclc= |doi=" fields? E.g.:
{{cite book |author=Carl Sagan |title=The demon-haunted world: science as a candle in the dark |publisher=Ballantine Books |location=New York |year=1997 |isbn=0-345-40946-9}}
Ta. -- Jeandré, 2007-01-14t20:24z
- The "[" in the first citation is indeed due to a problem with the isbndb.com's data. See [6] (you'll need an isbndb.com developer's key to see the page).
- I've added the other fields you requested (removing the 'id' field because it seems redundant if we're using the 'isbn' field now) and fixed the space issue you mentioned. Cheers, David Iberri (talk) 02:27, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
- -- Jeandré, 2007-01-15t19:04z
- It is not yet clear that the SmackBot can check ISBNs for validity if they are provided with the new 'isbn=' keyword of the cite book template. SmackBot works fine with the old method of using 'id=ISBN xxxxxxxxx' in 'cite book'. This is a current discussion [7], so I hope Rich Farmbrough will have something to say. EdJohnston 22:18, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
- -- Jeandré, 2007-01-15t19:04z
In search of free license histology images
I'd appreciate your thoughts over at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Clinical_medicine#Getting_Image_Permissions_from_a_Med_School Robotsintrouble 19:51, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
This month's winner is RNA interference!
– ClockworkSoul 14:31, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
Thank You So Much for Your Expert Opinion on the Nervous System Diagram!
I truly appreciate you pointing out the errors on the Nervous system diagram.png. I tried to correct the problems but I'm still not sure if I got the length of the spinal cord right. Could you please refer back to Image talk:Nervous system diagram.png again? Thank you.¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 21:20, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
Here's a pic that I found that might be more accurate: http://instruct.westvalley.edu/granieri/nerve%20plexuses.jpg . Should it correspond to something that? With a long stem of nerves emerging from underneath the end of the spinal cord? Sorry if I ask so simplistically for I am a graphics artist :P and not so keen a scientist...I have already made such an edit to the diagram but before I upload I would like to check with you first if that is a good reference. Oh and by the way your comment about ending it along the level of the iliohypogastric nerve helped give me a way better idea, thanks again.¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 01:53, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
Sorry if I am spamming your talk page but one more thing, I've sent an email. If it is not too much trouble could you read that as well? Thanks again.¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 02:26, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the response, I have sent the new version to you.¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 21:43, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
- Have you already sent it? I haven't found it in my inbox yet. --David Iberri (talk) 22:01, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
- Hey there, sent a couple more to you ;)...check when you have the time, thanks again.¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 05:18, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
I feel its pretty safe to upload now, I added just a couple more strands at the bottom per your advice but I think as you said at this point it gives enough of a general idea without the need for more major editing. I'll allow your inbox some forgiveness now and upload the final version on Wikipedia :). Thanks for all your help.¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 16:27, 9 January 2007 (UTC)