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Hello. I see that you have made good faith removals of numerous flagicon entries for international motorsports competitors. Please know that this is against consensus for these people. The situation is different from many other sports as, because you have stated elsewhere, there are no formal national 'teams'. However, the tradition of the sport and the international regulations defined by the governing body codify and control the competitor's 'nationality' with respect to their international sporting career. In this aspect, the guides have always been incorrect, mostly because they are dominated by kevball dingbats who know jack about motorsport history, tradition and modern practice. The drivers most certainly do represent their respective nations, and this is demonstrated abundantly within the sport. Cheers. [[User:Pyrope|<span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;color:#92000a">Pyrop</span>]][[User talk:Pyrope|<span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;color:#CE2029">e</span>]] 17:27, 10 May 2021 (UTC) |
Hello. I see that you have made good faith removals of numerous flagicon entries for international motorsports competitors. Please know that this is against consensus for these people. The situation is different from many other sports as, because you have stated elsewhere, there are no formal national 'teams'. However, the tradition of the sport and the international regulations defined by the governing body codify and control the competitor's 'nationality' with respect to their international sporting career. In this aspect, the guides have always been incorrect, mostly because they are dominated by kevball dingbats who know jack about motorsport history, tradition and modern practice. The drivers most certainly do represent their respective nations, and this is demonstrated abundantly within the sport. Cheers. [[User:Pyrope|<span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;color:#92000a">Pyrop</span>]][[User talk:Pyrope|<span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;color:#CE2029">e</span>]] 17:27, 10 May 2021 (UTC) |
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:Although I generally do not surveil Dennis' activities, I have been affected by this (firstly in 2014) particularly with new users and far-east IPs swamping motorcycle racing. The rationale is quite clear: there is no nationalism, except in the fanzones where they promote the riders. Again quite clear is that the flags should be accompanied by text, as few are knowledgeable-enough to recognise at a glance (meshelf less that 10).<p>I recently traced the alleged-'local consensus', where [[F1]] articles were decided to be exempt from the normal, at [[Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Icons/Archive 14#Formula 1]] where Pyrope contributed. I didn't wade through all of it, but the complaints were that there ''was'' historic nationalism involving team colours (eg., [[British Racing Green]]) and possibly some other argument over licensing countries (see [[Bo Bendsneyder]] where [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bo_Bendsneyder&diff=prev&oldid=1015393575 the IP] wanted him as Indonesian, and [[Can Öncü]] who was allegedly born in Norway, not Turkey as asserted on-Wiki). Another gripe was that few (too few) editors made the decision to deprecate flags. Seems to me that a new RfC is needed.--[[User:Rocknrollmancer|Rocknrollmancer]] ([[User talk:Rocknrollmancer|talk]]) 18:33, 10 May 2021 (UTC)</p> |
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Suzuki Swift
I added some data in the Suzuki Swift article from the same oficial Suzuki Australia website as a reliable source, is that correct?
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Stop spamming me please.
I'm not vandalizing anything. I already explained my edit. 136.158.59.173 (talk) 05:03, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
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I'm not sure who HughD is. 136.158.59.173 (talk) 05:23, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
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FLAGICON and motorsport
Hello. I see that you have made good faith removals of numerous flagicon entries for international motorsports competitors. Please know that this is against consensus for these people. The situation is different from many other sports as, because you have stated elsewhere, there are no formal national 'teams'. However, the tradition of the sport and the international regulations defined by the governing body codify and control the competitor's 'nationality' with respect to their international sporting career. In this aspect, the guides have always been incorrect, mostly because they are dominated by kevball dingbats who know jack about motorsport history, tradition and modern practice. The drivers most certainly do represent their respective nations, and this is demonstrated abundantly within the sport. Cheers. Pyrope 17:27, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
- Although I generally do not surveil Dennis' activities, I have been affected by this (firstly in 2014) particularly with new users and far-east IPs swamping motorcycle racing. The rationale is quite clear: there is no nationalism, except in the fanzones where they promote the riders. Again quite clear is that the flags should be accompanied by text, as few are knowledgeable-enough to recognise at a glance (meshelf less that 10).
I recently traced the alleged-'local consensus', where F1 articles were decided to be exempt from the normal, at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Icons/Archive 14#Formula 1 where Pyrope contributed. I didn't wade through all of it, but the complaints were that there was historic nationalism involving team colours (eg., British Racing Green) and possibly some other argument over licensing countries (see Bo Bendsneyder where the IP wanted him as Indonesian, and Can Öncü who was allegedly born in Norway, not Turkey as asserted on-Wiki). Another gripe was that few (too few) editors made the decision to deprecate flags. Seems to me that a new RfC is needed.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 18:33, 10 May 2021 (UTC)