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Other neat portal ideas for longer term
- Longer term ideas to think about from other portals:
- Events section, like: "On this day" e.g., Biography, Religion, United States; "Selected anniversaries" e.g., War; "Calendar" at Holidays. Interesting idea of "Month selected anniversaries", at Oregon.
- Model intro with some rotating images, after Portal:Oregon, Portal:Indiana, Portal:Iceland/Intro and Portal:Philosophy of science/Intro.
- Revamp DYK sections w/ free-use images, model after Portal:Criminal justice and Portal:Oregon.
- Portal palettes at User:RichardF/Palettes/Portals. Comparable color schemes can be developed from the various hue lists at User:RichardF/Palettes. Also see Portal:Box-header.
- If there are a lot of categories, then categories section to 2 columns, like in Portal:Indiana.
- Also take some time to check out style/formatting at Portal:Indiana Cirt (talk)
Note to self
independent reliable secondary sources
- {{findsources}}
- Cite templates
<ref>{{cite book| last = | first = | authorlink = | coauthors = | title = | publisher = | year = | location = | page = | url = | doi = | id = | isbn = }}</ref> <ref>{{cite news| last = | first = | coauthors = | title = | work = | language = | publisher = | page = | date = | url = | accessdate = }}</ref> <ref>{{cite journal|last =| first=| authorlink=| coauthors=|title=|journal=|volume=|issue=|page=|publisher=|location = | date = | url = | doi = | id = | accessdate = }}</ref> <ref>{{cite web| last = | first = | authorlink = | coauthors = | title = | work = | publisher = | date = | url = | format = | doi = | accessdate = }}</ref>
- Citation model
- Body text in-cite
<ref name="REFNAME">[[#LASTNAME|LASTNAME]], p. PAGENUMBER</ref>
- References section
(reference template from WP:CIT)
*<cite id=LASTNAME>REFERENCE</cite>
- Different model
- Template:Citation
- Template:Harvnb
- Example: <ref name="REFNAME">{{Harvnb|LAST|YEAR|p=PAGENUMBER}}</ref>
See models at The General in His Labyrinth and Mario Vargas Llosa.
More at Wikipedia:Harvard citation template examples.
Dispatch
Cirt, Awadewit suggested that you might be interested in writing a Signpost Dispatch article on Featured portals (the only area of featured content we haven't covered). Sample previous articles are at {{FCDW}}. We've covered:
- Featured content overview
- Peer review
- Did you know
- Featured lists
- Good articles
- Featured sounds
- Featured topics
- Images
- TFA
- And Featured articles many times: Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2008-07-21/Dispatches, Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2008-04-07/Dispatches, Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2008-10-13/Dispatches
None of them start out looking like that: if an editor initially just chunks in some text, many others chip in to tweak it up to Signpost standards. For example, someone wrote this, which Karanacs, Royalbroil and I turned into this, so if you just chunk in some text as a start, others can help finish it off. Another example, I put in this outline, and Karanacs brought it up to this. Other editors have written almost complete and clean Dispatches without much need for other editing. If you're interested, please weigh in and coordinate at WT:FCDW In case you're interested, you could just begin sandboxing something at WP:FCDW/Portals and pop over to WT:FCDW to leave a note when you're ready for others to help out. Regards, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:26, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
Razzies progress
- 15th Golden Raspberry Awards through 29th Golden Raspberry Awards = reformatting process done.
- Note: Going to have to go back and model these after the modifications made subsequently to 29th Golden Raspberry Awards.
- 29th Golden Raspberry Awards - so far only one expanded with sourcing research. (WP:FL)
- Razzie Award for Worst New Star = reformatting process done, next to use Talk:Razzie Award for Worst Picture as model to reformat other pages in Category:Golden Raspberry Awards by category (with subsection breaks by decade)
Josh McEachran
I have seen that you have deleted the page for Josh McEachran. I am ready to write up a new article for it. I have all the relevant sources that will be put in to it. Just informing you. No need to undelete the previous one, as I will start a new one. If you acknowledge this request, just leave an ok on my talk-page. Thanx! Laks.t.cfc13 (talk) 11:32, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
- Suggest first working on a proposed draft version, within a subpage of your userspace. -- Cirt (talk) 11:33, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
Here is the draft: User:Laks.t.cfc13/Josh_McEachran. Just give an ok if it is satisfactory, if not, may the advice/reasoning flood in! Thanx! Laks.t.cfc13 (talk) 11:19, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
I can maybe even put in the stub template, if there are not enough references, which seems to be the case. Currntly he is playing for England U17s at the Euros, which has so far furthered his notability (scored a goal) and in the coming season will most likely be a squad player. I can put the article as stub class, and then create it. Then as time goes on, and should his notabilty increase, the references will be added on. Thoughts? Laks.t.cfc13 (talk) 10:27, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
Deleted article - Comparison of .NET obfuscators
I found this article to be extremely interesting and revisited it occasionally, but unfortunately it's been deleted. I tried to access it using archive.org but to no avail. Is there any other way to access this content? I really need it. Thanks! Scatophaga (talk) 09:44, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
- It was deleted subsequent to a deletion discussion process called WP:AFD, at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Comparison of .NET obfuscators. -- Cirt (talk) 13:09, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
- I understand this and I'm not trying to get the article republished (as it probably doesn't follow the rules). I just want to be able to access the content somehow, even if only to save it for personal use later on. Is there a way to do it? If I recall in the past it was possible to access the content of deleted pages via their history, but I can't seem to be able to do it now. Any other way? Scatophaga (talk) 15:59, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
- Done, now at User:Scatophaga/Comparison of .NET obfuscators. -- Cirt (talk) 20:31, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you so much. I appreciate this and may try to edit the article to make it suitable for republishing. Scatophaga (talk) 05:09, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
- No worries, -- Cirt (talk) 05:10, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you so much. I appreciate this and may try to edit the article to make it suitable for republishing. Scatophaga (talk) 05:09, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
- Done, now at User:Scatophaga/Comparison of .NET obfuscators. -- Cirt (talk) 20:31, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
- I understand this and I'm not trying to get the article republished (as it probably doesn't follow the rules). I just want to be able to access the content somehow, even if only to save it for personal use later on. Is there a way to do it? If I recall in the past it was possible to access the content of deleted pages via their history, but I can't seem to be able to do it now. Any other way? Scatophaga (talk) 15:59, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
Your assistance please
You concluded the {{afd}} on The Brotherhood Letter. I'd like to request the userification of the article's full revision history, and talk page, to User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/The Brotherhood Letter. I'll comment out the categories, and add {{noindex}} directives.
FWIW the nominator explicitly over-wrote the heads-up left on my talk page, that would have advised me this article had been nominated for deletion. This is puzzling and disturbing.
Thanks! Geo Swan (talk) 15:34, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
- Could you also userify Jamat Mujahedeen Maroc to User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/Jamat Mujahedeen Maroc? Geo Swan (talk) 11:32, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
Please would you have a look at Comma10. Kittybrewster ☎ 12:22, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
Would you be kind enough to reconsider your AfD close deleting this article, and restore and relist it? Thanks! Reasons for doing so:
- It really wasn't much of a discussion. There were only two comments. It probably should have been relisted rather than closed.
- Of the two comments, only one was a clear "delete" !vote. The other was just a comment, and the person said "I'll hold off on saying delete..." This does not constitute any kind of clear consensus in my view.
- You didn't give any rationale for your deletion.
- If I had been aware of this AfD, which I missed somehow, I would have chimed in with the cogent (I believe) point that this does something a category can't do, namely show the redlinks of existing products that don't yet have articles. This is helpful to those of us who are trying to build a complete reference on this subject.
- For what it's worth, I kind of doubt that this was really a good-faith nomination. The person proposing deletion has apparently taken a dislike to be for some reason (we were engaged in an ArbCom action at the time this AfD was made), and I think he looked through my stuff, found this, and decided to try to "get me" by deleting stuff I was involved with. I cannot prove this, of course.
Thanks! Herostratus (talk) 15:26, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
- Done. -- Cirt (talk) 04:18, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
- Herostratus (talk) 05:07, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
- And I just punched it keep. I probably wouldn't have closed it if I knew about this. My first thought was that it was an AFD cirt found orphaned in limbo. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:59, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
- Herostratus (talk) 05:07, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
Deletion of Shabby Chic (brand)
Dear Cirt:
I request your reconsideration regarding your deletion of the article Shabby Chic (brand). As I stated in the deletion discussion at Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Shabby_Chic_(brand), the article was created at the suggestion of another editor, User:Ukexpat in order to distinguish the SHABBY CHIC brand from the descriptive use of the term. I respectfully request that you undelete the article and await the comments of User:Ukexpat, who has not yet had an opportunity to address this article.
Additionally, I believe it is unsufficient to simply delete the article without responding substantively to the comments I posted in the Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Shabby_Chic_(brand) discussion, and accordingly, I request that if you maintain that the article should remain deleted that you explain why you have done so.
Thank you.
Regards, KSatSCB 19:22, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
- I would suggest working first on a draft proposed version, within a subpage of your userspace. -- Cirt (talk) 04:17, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
Dear Cirt: I do not understand your comments. I did work on a draft proposed version within a subpage of my userspace, and I sought review by the editor who originally deleted my content from Shabby chic. I would appreciate a more substantive response to my inquiries and my earlier comments in the Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Shabby_Chic_(brand) discussion, rather than a summarily-made decision on an unresolved matter. KSatSCB 21:20, 19 May 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by KSatSCB (talk • contribs)
Chitoka Webb G4 Speedy
Cirt, you AfD–deleted Chitoka Webb which has been reposted. I've G4 CSD tagged it (among other tags), but could you check to make sure the G4 tag is appropriate since I can't look at the deleted version to make sure that it is different. Best regards, TRANSPORTERMAN (TALK) 20:04, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
Greetings. I noticed you blocked this user. User:City of Hamilton, User:Hamilton, Ontario, User:Hamilton, Ontario1, and a few IP addresses have made edits to Hamilton-Wentworth Catholic District School Board and St. Eugene Catholic Elementary School, including removal of maintenance templates despite warnings. I was wondering if there is enough evidence to suspect sockpuppetry here. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Regards, P. D. Cook Talk to me! 20:57, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
- Done. -- Cirt (talk) 04:14, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for your help! P. D. Cook Talk to me! 12:16, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
I would appreciate another knowledgable, interested editor looking over the discussion on the talk page of the above article. Thank you. John Carter (talk) 21:44, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
- Don't really have a chance lately to delve into that in the depth of detail for an FA drive, unfortunately. -- Cirt (talk) 04:15, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
Draw-you-know-who Day
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
Greg L (talk) 16:47, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
Please stop your misrepresentation
Nice try. Your changes clearly reflect your extreme lack of knowledge and or interest in the Pakistani legal system and legal procedure.
Here is the most reliable source
And specifically
"Justice Ejaz Chaudhry of the Lahore High Court directed the Pakistan Telecommunications Authority (PTA) to block Facebook after a group of lawyers moved a petition in the court.
An interim order has been issued until May 31, when the court is to start a detailed hearing of the case."
Go ahead and ban! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sparten (talk • contribs) 21:17, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for recommending the above linked source. I have used it in the article, [2]. -- Cirt (talk) 21:22, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
Ken Buck
Very unprofessional for you to delete a page that has been up in years and had as many relevant sources as I provided. Ken Buck is a candidate for the Senate in 2010, seems noteworthy to me. He has been written about by a number of national news sources. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.28.71.40 (talk) 21:24, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
- I would suggest you register an account on Wikipedia. Then, you could work on a proposed draft version, in a subpage of your userspace. -- Cirt (talk) 21:26, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
Moon FAR
Thanks for looking over Moon. The article has been kept! Iridia (talk) 01:59, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
- No worries, -- Cirt (talk) 05:09, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
India and WMDs
Hello, I think the IP vandal is back and he's making edits again. I was just wondering if you could protect the article again so that only auto-confirmed users can edit it in the future. Since this is a topic a lot of people have issues with, I was wondering if you could set an expiry time of indefinite this time as it will prevent both anonymous IPs from inserting both Pro-India and Anti-India comments on the article. Thanks,Vedant (talk) 02:32, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
FYI, left a note at AN
Here [3] -- JohnWBarber (talk) 05:08, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
Josh McEachran continued ...
I can maybe even put in the stub template, if there are not enough references, which seems to be the case. Currntly he is playing for England U17s at the Euros, which has so far furthered his notability (scored a goal and have got a couple of more sources) and in the coming season will most likely be a squad player. I can put the article as stub class, and then create it. Then as time goes on, and should his notabilty increase, the references will be added on. I'll also re-edit to make the article more neutral.Thoughts? Laks.t.cfc13 (talk) 13:51, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
- Previously deleted already, after discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Josh McEachran. Consensus was pretty conclusive. If you like, you could work on a proposed draft version, within a subpage of your userspace. -- Cirt (talk) 23:16, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
request for content of deleted article
Cirt, I wrote an article that you deleted. Could you provide me with the formatted content of that article (Jim_Tisdall)? I'm new to wikipedia so I'm not sure how this is done, but if it was installed as my Sandbox that would be fine. Thanks for you help! Desalane 14:03, 20 May 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Desalane (talk • contribs)
- Done, now at User:Desalane/Jim Tisdall. -- Cirt (talk) 23:17, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
OpenBSD
Hi Cirt - Could you please revisit your oppose at Wikipedia:Featured article review/OpenBSD/archive1? The main editor working on the article has responded to your comments. Dana boomer (talk) 21:18, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
What problem do you have with making your comment a subsection of the previous one you already created? I would like my responses to your concerns, which I already posted, to be connected with your latest posting, so onlookers will note my thoughts on the subject. If you keep creating new sections for your related comments, it makes things difficult for those attempting to show an opinion. Equazcion (talk) 22:56, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
- It is generally polite not to alter other users' posts on the talk pages. Certainly not so, without asking them, first. -- Cirt (talk) 22:58, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
- Except for minor formatting, generally... Well, now that you've reverted me on general principle, would you mind reinstating the edit or otherwise refactoring your response, for the reasons I stated above? Thank you in advance. Politely yours, Equazcion (talk) 23:02, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
- I think the subsection is a good way to refocus looking at the issue. -- Cirt (talk) 23:04, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, I agree -- a subsection would adequately refocus the issue, while also keeping the previous comments tied in. Would you like me to make it a subsection again, or are you going to do that? Equazcion (talk) 23:08, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
- No, that is what the new subsection is for. It is an update on the refocus of the Commentary section in the article, and how that is being done. -- Cirt (talk) 23:09, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
- That wouldn't be a subsection, exactly, but a whole new section. Ok. Well, you've shown a total lack of flexibility or willingness to compromise here. I won't try to fight you on it, because, well, that would be something you would do, and I'm not you. Good day. Equazcion (talk) 23:11, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
- No, that is what the new subsection is for. It is an update on the refocus of the Commentary section in the article, and how that is being done. -- Cirt (talk) 23:09, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, I agree -- a subsection would adequately refocus the issue, while also keeping the previous comments tied in. Would you like me to make it a subsection again, or are you going to do that? Equazcion (talk) 23:08, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
- I think the subsection is a good way to refocus looking at the issue. -- Cirt (talk) 23:04, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
- Except for minor formatting, generally... Well, now that you've reverted me on general principle, would you mind reinstating the edit or otherwise refactoring your response, for the reasons I stated above? Thank you in advance. Politely yours, Equazcion (talk) 23:02, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
Thank you for the welcome!
Appreciate your work on the Draw Mohammed Day page. It's a very interesting subject to me. PrimalSpazz (talk) 05:53, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
Deletion review for Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2010 May 21
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2010 May 21. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review.
Dear Cirt,
yesterday I noticed that you deleted the page, which I created on the Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/ISL_Online
I understand that the debate has been opened regarding the article deletion. However, I was away for some time and could not react on the proposed deletion of the article in due time. I am really sorry for that and I kindly ask you to open the debate again, so I will be able to present my arguments against the deletion of the article.
Thank you very much for your understanding. Having any additional questions, please do not hesitate to contact me.
Jure pompe (talk) 13:21, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
Edward Kotlyanskiy
Hi, Cirt -- I'm writing to ask you to reconsider undeleting the Edward Kotlyanskiy article. I have been speaking to the author in IRC. He presented http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessplayer?pid=126201 as an additional third-party source for Kotlyanskiy's record.
I didn't see the original article. The deletion discussion appeared to conclude that notability had not been established. I think notability is implicitly established under WP:ATHLETE, and confirmed by the fact that every other winner of the ICCF championship listed at Correspondence_chess#ICCF_World_Champions also has an article. (I know, other stuff exists, but this seems like a strong pattern toward assuming notability for winners of this particular championship.)
Please let me know what you think, and whether you think I have misunderstood the issue. Thanks. Tim Pierce (talk) 18:26, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
- The consensus was quite clear. I would suggest you work on a proposed draft version, within a subpage of your userspace. -- Cirt (talk) 00:40, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
- Addendum: If you were willing to do that, I would, of course, help out by userfying it for you. :) -- Cirt (talk) 00:41, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
Threats
This edit from an anon IP in Pakistan is disconcerting - not sure whether it's worth taking action though. -- samj inout 22:52, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
Talkback
Message added 01:15, 22 May 2010 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
Alpha Quadrant (talk) 01:15, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
From the outcome of the discussion I am not sure why this is exists Panic of Girls, it is a red link on the AFD page... -- RP459 Talk/Contributions 02:03, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
- The article got moved but not deleted, I did not notice the capital O at a 1st look. -- RP459 Talk/Contributions 02:04, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
A new user (it was his second edit) has added the AFD tag to JK_Wedding_Entrance_Dance but did not follow through with the rest of the nomination. I have posted on his page letting him know that he still needs to create the AFD page. I am honestly not sure what to do... Should someone complete the nomination for him and add in rationale based upon his edit summary or would it be appropriate to remove the template at this time from the page? -- RP459 Talk/Contributions 13:24, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
- I suppose it could be removed, if the process was not completed after explaining it to the IP after a suitable period of time. -- Cirt (talk) 02:34, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
About the deleted page "Dao (programming language)"
Dear Cirt,
I just noticed that you have deleted the page "Dao (programming language)". I wonder if the sharing of a common name with the abbreviation of Data Access Object is the main reason for the deletion, but they are two quite different things, I don't see there how people can get confused between them. Moreover there is disambiguation page, otherwise, what's that for?
For notability, I neither think it is a strong reason for a deletion of such page. There are so many languages listed here List of programming languages, I doubt all of them have better notability than Dao.
If the article need to be improved, I would be gladly to do so. Please reconsider if it is really necessary to delete this article. I would appreciate very much if this page can be restored.
Thank you! Phoolimin (talk) 01:57, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
- Deleted, after WP:AFD discussion, at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dao (programming language). I would suggest working on a proposed draft version, within a subpage of your userspace. -- Cirt (talk) 02:35, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
- Right, there were discussions (which I unfortunately did not read in time), but the reasons for deletion in the discussion were not really sufficient in my opinion. Just for curiosity, is there technical reason or policy reason that a deleted page can not be restored? Because I would rather like to edit the original page. If working on a proposed draft version is the only way to go, I would like to have the original source of that page, if possible of course, how do I get that? Just a general suggestion, when a page is deleted, it might be much more convenient to have a link somewhere to get the original source of the deleted article. Phoolimin (talk) 03:13, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
- Done, now at User:Phoolimin/Dao (programming language). Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 13:20, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
- Right, there were discussions (which I unfortunately did not read in time), but the reasons for deletion in the discussion were not really sufficient in my opinion. Just for curiosity, is there technical reason or policy reason that a deleted page can not be restored? Because I would rather like to edit the original page. If working on a proposed draft version is the only way to go, I would like to have the original source of that page, if possible of course, how do I get that? Just a general suggestion, when a page is deleted, it might be much more convenient to have a link somewhere to get the original source of the deleted article. Phoolimin (talk) 03:13, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
Scientologists
Hello, sorry if this is not the place to discuss this I am new to Wikipedia. I have the impression that you keep reverting an edit I have made to the list of scientologists, adding comedian Andrés López. The second time I added him I wrote that the Wikipedia article has all the references, and the third time I directly put the references that prove his involvement with scientology. However, the last message from you states that I am making edits without citing sources and that my IP might be blocked. How is that so? I used the ref tag correctly, and the references could be seen. I don't understand what are you refering to. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.124.9.215 (talk • contribs)
- Citing another Wikipedia article is circular-reasoning, and fails WP:RS. Citing primary sources affiliated with the Church of Scientology has been determined to be unreliable, and the best thing to do, is to cite independent reliable secondary sources. -- Cirt (talk) 13:33, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
Thank you. 201.124.9.215 (talk) 13:34, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
Everybody Draw you-know-who day
Cirt,
As you can see from the EDMD talk page, your apology made an impression others; not just me. All is certainly forgiven and I look forward to working collaboratively with you on EDMD. Feel free to contact me any way you please if you need assistance to arrive at a consensus (or proving one already exists). Greg L (talk) 01:36, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
- Alright, thank you. I really feel bad about some of my conduct there, and am glad we can try to move forwards. -- Cirt (talk) 01:38, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
Southampton Stags deletion
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search/Southampton_Stags
When searching for the stags you find at least four other uk american football teams so I do not see why the stags page was deleted. Especially considering Birmingham Lions and Southampton Stags have dominated the league through out history. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.184.8.54 (talk) 12:06, 25 May 2010 (UTC)