Read this first if you're about to complain about me modifying one of your edits
I've recieved some feedback from people whose edits I reverted or modified about this, let me state first that I believe that the whole goal behind Wikipedia is to provide unbiased facts for the reader to come to his or her own conclusions about the incident in question. Editorializing is not a NPOV. I will revert or modify any edit to contraversial articles that I happen to come across which I believe violates NPOV regardless of whether or not I agree with the sentiments expressed by it's author. If I end up being bashed by extremists on both sides of an issue, then I'll take that to mean that I'm doing a good job of being neutral.
Having said all that, if you still feel that I am in error in reverting your edit, feel free to let me know about it on my talk page. Just a friendly suggestion: I tend to take your complaints more seriously if you express them in a civil manner.
The exception to this are math and science related articles. If you disagree with the Theory of Gravity, you can go walk off a balcony. ;) --Loren 11:19, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
Flames archived for posterity
Gotta love vandals and trolls. I shoulda saved the old ones where I got called "a Taiwanese Japanese lacky and Chinese traitor sucking America's ****". I guess all trolls regardless of political affiliation aren't very creative or original when it comes to insults. -Loren 08:22, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
Some more recent ones:
FreedomFighter228 Related
Why are you two communist clowns so annoying???--FreedomFighter228 05:12, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
- Amusing how easily extremists on both sides immediately construe a neutral viewpoint to be diametrically opposed to theirs.
- response here --Loren 06:03, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
Changlc, you should recognize the NPOV!!! Is Jiang your sockpuppet??--FreedomFighter228 05:13, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
GrandCru Related
YOU'RE A COMMUNIST BASTARD. -CarlosNoriegaDos (GrandCru sockpuppet)
- You need to come up with more creative insults. -Loren 08:18, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
REDIRECT Kuomintang -Changlc is on the Shit List (Yet Another Sockpuppet)
- Funny, I seem to recall being a DPP supporter since 1999, but hey, if you want to redirect all your complaints towards the KMT be my guest. -Loren 08:18, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
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UC Irvine
Thank you for adding the picture descriptions to the photos and help expand the UCI article. --[[User:AllyUnion|AllyUnion (talk)]] 12:24, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)
please recognize the NPOV!
-- I've noted your most recent changes to the Taiwan article with interest. What gives me huge red flags is a use of language which I would agree with in its entirety. I've reverted it because there's no point in including the sections about how there were no Han Chinese settlement until so and so time; a non-biased point of view would be to state that the Han Chinese settled at X time instead...
Buoren 06:18, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Point duly noted, thanks for the feedback!
- Loren 06:24, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Bubble tea article edits
I am unsure if your edits are correct as they change the meaning of the original Chinglish.
use the name -> are known as -- perhaps "use the name" refer to brands or product descriptions
removal of _much_ w/ reference to 1 cm diameter -- perhaps there really is a large difference; note recently added pearl sago section
skills of making -> quality of resulting product -- although the former implies the latter, these are not equivalent (e.g. the latter could result without the former due to differences in the quality of the ingredients)
Trivia section -- Your editted version is far off from the version you replaced; esp. in that you deleted the "once per week" part
-- UTSRelativity 00:24 2004-12-13 (UTC)
- Trivia: Yes, apparently I neglected to add the once per week part when I edited that section. It was an honest mistake, thank you for pointing that out. I've fixed it. However I stand by the rest of my edit. The original contained incorrect information (see the linked news articles) and was decidedly nonneutral in it's wording.
- use the name -> are known as: As far as I know, most of the names in the list are general product descriptions and not brand names. i.e. "photocopier" as opposed to "Xerox".
- removal of _much_ w/ reference to 1 cm diamete: Not sure if pearl sago is regarded in the same catagory as the more farmiliar large variety. Will look into this.
- skills of making -> quality of resulting product Agree with your point. But "skills of making" sounds a little odd. Perhaps "skill in making"? Also, most people care about the quality of the final product be it by skill or ingredients.-Loren 01:15, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)
228 incident
Hello. I have noticed that you have revampted the article 228 Incident and I would like to say thank you for your good work on this topic. I accidentally found this person on Times magazine cover[1]: K.C. Wu. and I am quite interested in finding out who this person is as he also appeared in Kerr's book's appendix[2].
The picture is extremely interesting and I wonder if we can also integrate this picture into the encyclopedia. Unforutnately, I am not familiar with the copyright regulation and I am not familiar with this person either. I would like to seek your opinion on the possiblity of integrating this piece of photo into current version of 228 incident.
I would be looking forward to your suggestion. Many thanks and Happy new year.Mababa 05:01, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- Sorry, I have just realized that I have raised a dumb question. Wu was introduced in Kerr's book, the chapters I skipped.Mababa 05:24, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Taiwan Notice Board
Hello,
Just for your information, I am comming to advertise the Wikipedia:Taiwan-related topics notice board that I have just created in the hope that contributers on Taiwan related topics can have a place to discuss on different proposals.
I also made a page List of Taiwan-related topics (by category) so that we can keep track on the topics by category. I hope this would be useful for us. Mababa 05:41, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Hello, thank you for comming to the notice board and signing in. Thank you. I hope this could be a good start for the Taiwan-related topic contributer's communitites. Let's pray for our prosperity. :) Mababa 06:36, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Taipei 101
Thanks for restoring that. I noticed it was gone but didn't have to time to do it myself. Bbpen 13:52, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
228
- Original discussion[3]
You are more than welcome. During the discussion, I was addressing to the other participant. I am not an expert on these topics either. :) Everyone is still learning.Mababa 08:06, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)
President building of ROC
Hello. I uploaded your nice picture, Image:Taiwan presidential bdg.JPG at commons:Image:Taiwan presidential bdg.JPG. Thank you.--Mochi 06:58, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
Remark
Hi. I have just a remark about style. On Wikipedia, one should write
== See also ==
instead of
== See Also ==
and so on, that is, one should not use capitals in the middle of the section. Also, it is good to use a spellchecker, misspelled articles look kind of unprofessional. Thanks. Oleg Alexandrov 20:40, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
Thanks
Thanks for the encouragement. I saw a lot of politically motivated minor changes that really destroyed the unity of the intros as a whole, so I thought I might give it an overhaul. Hopefully it reads a lot more smoothly and makes more sense logically.--DownUnder555 21:18, 21 May 2005 (UTC) ~~
KMT
I don't think Lee is just pro-independent. He tries to erase the Chinese influence from the cultural prospective as well, so I believe calling him separatist is rather neutral and more appropriate. Please comment on this. bobbybuilder 22:38, 03 July 2005 (UTC)
- Response here --Loren 4 July 2005 05:06 (UTC)
Particularly on adding the section on criticisms. Very appropriate given the section under Democratic Progressive Party.--GrandCru 8 July 2005 03:39 (UTC)
- Response here -Loren 8 July 2005 04:06 (UTC)
Given the history of GrandCru, being praised by him maybe less than desirable. I've just noticed that you sent me that message. I have included the response from KMT to those issues. However, I do believe some of them are too detailed and should be discussed on a separate page. The entire KMT page becomes tediously long. p.s. toss the discussion on whether to use "localisation" or "desinisation", GrandCru changed it back to pro-independence. Bobbybuilder 8 July 2005 04:16 (UTC)
- Response here -Loren 8 July 2005 04:24 (UTC)
Loren, I've changed all of GrandCru's edits, that spiteful little man first stole Wilfried's name then mine, I've reported him already. (He even used my name to post threats on his page, but the language was consistant with his works, what a pathetic loser). Sorry for all these troubles, I've deleted all of his messages and your responses as well, I don't believe those kind of creatures are worthy to respond to, we both are too noble for that thingy. ;) Bobbybuilder 00:58, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
- Since you weren't the one who made the posts, no apology is nessecary. Thanks for helping with the cleanup. -Loren 01:12, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
Whatever, that wasn't me.--GrandCru 05:13, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
Thanks
Loren, Thanks for the cleanups recently. Bobbybuilder 09:31, 24 July 2005 (UTC)
Taiwan Vandal
Yeah, because the person won't stop, I say we report it on Wikipedia:Vandalism in progress or something else. --Hottentot
- The same person is also reverting edits on Template:Taiwan infobox. --Hottentot
GrandCru
Yeah, but hopefully he's not mad at me. Check this out. I have worked with him before and I was able to resolve the brief conflict that I had with him. Of course, this was before he got into the conflict with BobbyBuilder which eventually got him banned. :-( I was very supprised to see that all these sockpuppets belonged to him. --Hottentot