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:I've commented on the article's talk page about notability. It all comes back to how little can be [[WP:V|verified]] about her from any place that isn't under her control. —'''[[User:C.Fred|C.Fred]]''' ([[User_talk:C.Fred|talk]]) 23:48, 22 June 2012 (UTC) |
:I've commented on the article's talk page about notability. It all comes back to how little can be [[WP:V|verified]] about her from any place that isn't under her control. —'''[[User:C.Fred|C.Fred]]''' ([[User_talk:C.Fred|talk]]) 23:48, 22 June 2012 (UTC) |
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Dear C. Fred: |
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I received an email about this and am responding. My name is Elizabeth Austin, I have am not putting this site up onWikipedia but am providing some information for it. |
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We have been going around and around with you for days now. All the is required is a very simple bio on Wikipedia. |
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I read with great concern that you have "Grave Concerns" about my c.v. I have absolutely no idea how others prove their resume but I am going to find other similar wikipedia sites and see if/how they are verified. |
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I do not see the amount of references that are obviously required for this site as many others that are currently posted. How does one verify a c.v. |
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By the way, I am cc'ing the following on this thread of conversation and will do in all future conversations also (their emails are not included below for privacy reasons but you will be receiving the email separately). |
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Ed Warnock, CEO, Perlan Project |
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Einar Enevoldson, President, Perlan Project |
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Doug Perrenod, Perlan Project |
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Ed Teets, Jr, NASA |
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Dennis Tito, Perlan Project |
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Michael Starler, Esq., Greenberg Traurig |
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Gene Schwaum, Hanson & Schwam |
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Yours truly, |
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Elizabeth Austin |
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The World Tomorrow
Please assist in resolving this issue, and feel free to delete my newly created account. I begin work on a Sylvester Stallone film next week in Los Angeles and I simply am not interested in dealing with this matter any longer.
The original article was extant for many years and was surreptitiously given a backseat to this controversial Assange character due to the infringement on our production of the same name. Several editors have elevated his page to the number one spot and created a disimbiguation page which regulates the original to a secondary position with little visibility. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Superchargedone (talk • contribs) 03:35, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
Riot Bowl
Article reference for the name "Riot Bowl" in connection with the Iowa State and West Virginia Game. "Iowa State travels to TCU on October 6th and hosts the first annual Riot Bowl against West Virginia on November 24th."
Please reply here.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.50.241.167 (talk) 18:52, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
- The article needs reliable sources to back it up. I don't see this fan forum as being reliable at all. —C.Fred (talk) 19:06, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
It's not a fan forum. They report Iowa State related news and have writers put their perspective on it. This is no different than ESPN (David Ubben, Ted Miller, etc.) or Yahoo (Jeff Eisenberg). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.50.241.167 (talk) 19:18, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
- Who's the publisher, then? Is it connection with a newspaper in Ames? —C.Fred (talk) 19:30, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
They have a very loose connection with CycloneFanatic.com, who is published by Chris Williams. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.50.241.167 (talk) 19:39, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
I like those Barnstars
I was checking out your User Page, and thought it was pretty cool. You are very multi faceted. I now see the point you made, very well. Thanks for taking the time to help someone who is new. _Jason West Jones (talk) 04:59, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
lil jim
i dont to prove anythin ill put up another — Preceding unsigned comment added by Liljimtrilla (talk • contribs) 07:50, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
Emilie's birth date
Regardless of what "cited sources" say, her passport says otherwise, And her real name isn't "Emilie Autumn Liddell" It's Emily Autumn Fritzges, not to mention the majority of the biography on her page being complete BS, but hey, one thing at a time — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.40.254.44 (talk) 19:48, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
Delete one of my user subpages?
Hi. Can you please delete one of my user subpages (User:Hadger/index/sandbox)? I want it deleted because it's pretty useless now that I created User:Hadger/sandbox. The reason I'm asking you is that I'm not sure if this would be an appropriate nomination for deletion, and you're the only administrator whom I know about. (I've been inactive for a long time. :P) Thanks in advance. If you can't delete it, that's okay.:) Hadger 03:59, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
- Done. In future, you could put the tag {{db-userreq}} on a page in your user space like that, and then any admin can speedy delete it. If you started something in article space and were the only editor to contribute, you could request deletion with {{db-author}}. —C.Fred (talk) 18:25, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
al-Farabi
C.Fred you reverted my edit without giving your reasons and with a blind blame of vandalism please explain ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Majilis (talk • contribs) 01:53, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
- As I noted on your talk page, the edit you made was against established consensus and therefore disruptive. —C.Fred (talk) 02:04, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
- Please note it's not agreed yet, many of the things written on page about al-farabi are simply lies, it's not consensus,
what about you, you are reverting without the realization of what you are doing, you are not giving reasons, for each and every edit i made i have putted citations and the reasons for changing anything, it's unjust from your side to revert anything without proper reasons, do you have knowledge on what you're doing? if change anything please give proper reasons, show your citations etc.
--Majilis (talk) 14:02, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
- I gave a very clear reason for my last revert: you had violated the three revert rule, so in conjunction with blocking your account, I undid the changes that caused you to get block. That was more a matter of Wikipedia policy than the article content.
- Regarding the article content, it appears that the majority of editors disagree with you and do not support your changes. I strongly urge you to discuss your concerns with the article at Talk:Al-Farabi, and do not continue to make the disputed changes until/unless consensus is reached at the talk page to make the change. —C.Fred (talk) 15:37, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
--talk ok i was not aware about the rules, i'll go to the discussion page, thank you! :) --Majilis (talk) 15:42, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
Ronnie's edits/moving warning from user page to talk page
I just removed the warning Ronnie left me as vandalism without seeing that you moved it from my talk page, so I'm sorry for blindly calling it vandalism; clearly you didn't do anything wrong by moving it to the place Ronnie intended to put it. That said, I feel its time to pursue intervention via the noticeboards in regards to this editor... Wikipedia rules and protocols have been explained to him by numerous editors over numerous issues, he constantly reverts the same edit over and over (this is the case with several edits), soap boxes and earlier in his career had a history of outright vandalism. Most importantly, I can't find anything he's done that would be considered productive editing. I will notify you once I make the post. --Williamsburgland (talk) 12:47, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
- Here you go. --Williamsburgland (talk) 13:42, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
Deleted page for Dr. Elizabeth Austin
June22, 2012
Dear C.Fred,
I want to know why you are listed as the person who Deleted Dr. Elizabeth Austin's page. There is nothing on the page that violates any of the guidlines. I'm also curious how just anyone can delete another persons page without discussion.
I'm not sure where your reply will show up so I will stay signed in. I was in the process of adding some of her awards when I discovered that you had deleted the page AGAIN.
Look forward to your reply and having the page reinstated.
Wxextreme (talk) 16:21, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
- Both did violate a guideline, indirectly. They contained no substantial content, so they were speedy deleted per criterion A3, an article with no content beyond a restatement of the title or external links. —C.Fred (talk) 16:34, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
Deleted page for Dr. Elizabeth Austin Full of content
I'm not sure how you determined that the page is w/o content. It's full of content including a photo with caption. Here's the content. I'm going to re-post it and I would greatly appreciate it if you don't 'speedy delete' this time. After I posted it last time, I went back to the wikipedia's home page and typed in Dr. Elizabeth Austin and it came up fine. Not sure why you're not seeing the content. (I had to delete the links from this message because it wouldn't let me send them, but the content does have links)
[copy of article deleted]
Wxextreme (talk) 16:50, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
- None of that was in the articles I deleted three days ago. Both articles I deleted, the only text in the article was her name (plus in one of them, a header that read "Header text"). —C.Fred (talk) 16:57, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
re-posting
Okay I'm going to re-post it now. I don't understand why when I typed her name into the main wikipedia box it came up with all the content and picture too. I sent the link to her publicist, he was able to see it, but somehow you couldn't... that seems quite strange. I'm not sure what else to do - except repost it. Wxextreme (talk) 17:02, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
- You're not an admin, so you don't have access to the two deleted revisions of the Dr. Elizabeth Austin and Dr.Elizabeth Austin articles; I do. That said, your third attempt to create the page is still visible in the history of the Dr. Elizabeth Austin article. Another editor—not me—redirected the page to the Perlan Project article instead of deleting the article outright. —C.Fred (talk) 17:15, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
So can you re-post it
I wasn't quite sure how to interpret you last message. Can I undo the re-direct?, or do I need to start over?
Wxextreme (talk) 17:55, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
It's posted again
I re-posted the page, and it's visible when I type in Dr. Elizabeth Austin in the search window on Wikipedia's main page...so I assume you can see it too. Please don't delete, or re-direct. Let me know if there's some problem with the way I posted it - I'm new to the process.Wxextreme (talk) 18:02, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
now what
Now when I go to her page it reads Elizabeth Austin (meteorologist) and has all kinds of annotations and editing remarks- who is doing that? and Why? Why did she go from Dr. Elizabeth Austin to Elizabeth Austin (Meteorologist)- Who is making these decisions? This is really quite an inscrutable and painfully difficult process so far. Are we now supposed to go back and make the edits in this new page that you created for us, including changing her title?
Wxextreme (talk) 18:22, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
more editors?
I just received this message,(and didn't see a way to respond to it, like you have on your page)
Hi- please don't re-add "Ltd." and "Dr." on the Elizabeth Austin (meteorologist). See WP:CREDENTIAL for the "Dr." version of that; I can find the "Ltd." guideline if you'd like. You also need to watch your conflict of interest on this article. Please read that policy. tedder (talk) 18:27, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
How many editors are going to be making changes to the page that we are having to comply with? I would like to ask mr. tedder some questions about his comments but couldn't see a way to respond to him. I'm quite puzzled about the type of documentation that you want for Dr. Austin's attendance at the various schools she went to. I have no idea what the issue is with "Neutrality"...the copy is quite straightforward and unbiased that is on the page....so confused, especially if we're going to be dealing a variety of different editors each with their own issues about the page...
Wxextreme (talk) 18:39, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
- Each user has a user talk page. There should've been a link to User talk:Tedder in his signature. You could have left him a message there.
- Regarding how many editors will be making changes...all of them, potentially. :) Any editor can edit any article; however, editors with conflicts of interest should be careful editing pages where they have conflicts (e.g., their employers), and some pages are protected to prevent abuse and vandalism, in which case new editors have to request changes on the article's talk page.
- That said, there is a talk page for each article, so if there is an article titled Elizabeth Austin (meteorologist), there is a talk page associated with it titled Talk:Elizabeth Austin (meteorologist). That page is the best place to discuss improvements to the article. —C.Fred (talk) 22:15, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
Thanks
Hi,
I asked several questions from "tedder" and never really got too far other than links to some other pages and finally, after a few emails back and forth, a real sarcastic, snotty response that said " he was through with me because he tried and I didn't get it. In any case, would you take a look at the page now and let me know how it looks, I've been trying to "clean" up all the things that 'tedder' had issue with. He changed quite a bit of the site. The remaining things it seems I have to deal with are the "neutrality" issue and some issue relative to "noteworthiness"... If you could let me know your thoughts on the current page I'd appreciate it. I'm a little surprised to have gotten such a nasty response. I'm new at this and appreciate a bit of patience.
thanks
Wxextreme (talk) 22:29, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
- Tedder's doing some research on the page now; I see he's added an external link to the article. I just looked through it, and I have grave concerns. The only thing I could back up in a secondary source was that she's chair of the Board of CCM. Everything else comes back to her CV or her company's website—or isn't supported in the cited sources.
- Neutrality is inherently an issue while you edit the article. You appear to have a relationship with the subject: you've taken pictures of her, and your username suggests that you work for or are otherwise connected with her company. Basically, until we can find sources independent of Austin—or at least a newspaper interview where a journalist is talking to Austin—the conflict of interest tag will stay up, because the bulk of the information in the article is coming from a related party.
- I've commented on the article's talk page about notability. It all comes back to how little can be verified about her from any place that isn't under her control. —C.Fred (talk) 23:48, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
Re: Dr. Elizabeth Austin Wikipedia posting scheduled for deletion (again)
Dear C. Fred:
I received an email about this and am responding. My name is Elizabeth Austin, I have am not putting this site up onWikipedia but am providing some information for it.
We have been going around and around with you for days now. All the is required is a very simple bio on Wikipedia.
I read with great concern that you have "Grave Concerns" about my c.v. I have absolutely no idea how others prove their resume but I am going to find other similar wikipedia sites and see if/how they are verified. I do not see the amount of references that are obviously required for this site as many others that are currently posted. How does one verify a c.v.
By the way, I am cc'ing the following on this thread of conversation and will do in all future conversations also (their emails are not included below for privacy reasons but you will be receiving the email separately).
Ed Warnock, CEO, Perlan Project Einar Enevoldson, President, Perlan Project Doug Perrenod, Perlan Project Ed Teets, Jr, NASA Dennis Tito, Perlan Project Michael Starler, Esq., Greenberg Traurig Gene Schwaum, Hanson & Schwam
Yours truly, Elizabeth Austin