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And I suggest you back off. Your implied threat of disruption by me and not you is inappropriate. You seem to have been dragged into the edit war so I'd hate to see you (ab)use your admin powers to enforce your version of something. [[User:LemonMonday|<font color="Yellow">'''LemonMonday'''</font>]] [[User talk:LemonMonday|<font color="Yellow">''' Talk '''</font>]] 12:25, 12 October 2009 (UTC) |
And I suggest you back off. Your implied threat of disruption by me and not you is inappropriate. You seem to have been dragged into the edit war so I'd hate to see you (ab)use your admin powers to enforce your version of something. [[User:LemonMonday|<font color="Yellow">'''LemonMonday'''</font>]] [[User talk:LemonMonday|<font color="Yellow">''' Talk '''</font>]] 12:25, 12 October 2009 (UTC) |
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:Just a question here, to anyone who cares to answer. Why is there all this emphasis on providing sources for things like British Isles while no mention of sources is made for the topic of the article itself. [[User:LemonMonday|<font color="Yellow">'''LemonMonday'''</font>]] [[User talk:LemonMonday|<font color="Yellow">''' Talk '''</font>]] 12:29, 12 October 2009 (UTC) |
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Please take a look at the article, I believe that any copyvio concerns have been addressed now. Mjroots (talk) 13:07, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
This is listed as the translation for Akazukin Chacha and I would like to redirect it there seeing as how this would be what it would be called in english and it's listed on the page. Tyciol (talk) 13:52, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
- Oh and also, Miley Ray Stewart could redirect to Miley Stewart (it's listed as the full name of the fictional character) and Miley Ray could refer to either her or Cyrus who portrays her since it's their forenames (first+middle). Destiny Hope & Hope Cyrus would refer to her too I think (Destiny Hope Cyrus directs there). Ray Cyrus on the other hand could refer to her or her dad Billy, possibly others but it's hard to find anything else in a search. As for making FRTA into a disambig, I'd like to do that, but I'm sort of at a loss on how to locate other things which could fit under the acronym. Is there a special search function which locates separate words, or did you extrapolate on FRT with a succeeding A or RTA with a preceding F? Tyciol (talk) 20:17, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
- Miley Ray Stewart is fine, but for the love of God please don't start up on the Elton Hercules route again. By all means Miley Ray Cyrus and Destiny Hope Cyrus as redirects to Miley Cyrus, but you've had the lecture on middle names often enough now. --Elen of the Roads (talk) 20:43, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
I found three more FRTAs just by putting FRTA into the search --Elen of the Roads (talk) 20:49, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
- Fox River Trolley Museum
- Franklin Regional Transit Authority (which doesn't have an article but ought to, as it gets mentioned in loads of other articles)
- Federal Reserve Transparency Act
Nice finds, I actually didn't think of doing the obvious and putting in the acronym as I guess I for some absurd reason didn't perceive that it would be used in an article, but that makes sense. Anyway yeah, great disambig finds. Thanks for endorsing the chacha BK so I will make that. The reason was FRT redirected to FLP-FRT so I put that in as opposed to editing the redirect itself, do you think it might be appropriate to change that into a disambig and mention that it stands for free radical theory as well as Flippase Recognition Target? Probably others, like even partials of the previous like Franklin Regional Transit or Federal Reserve Transparency. A bit confused by the museum, isn't that FRTM? Ah wait okay it's for the Fox River Trolley Association mentioned there, I see. Tyciol (talk) 05:16, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
AGF
Please do not make comments like this in the future, they are extremely unhelpful: "trying to stir up drama against an editor with whom you have previously had disputes is unhelpful". The AN thread is there to allow for calm dispute resolution without people violating protocol and causing disruptions. Your accusations are inflammatory and do nothing to calm anything down. I ask that you refrain from making such inappropriate charges in the future. Ottava Rima (talk) 16:52, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
- Then please start a WQA about it. There is enough off topic commentary. You are causing disruption which is what the whole thread is about - people constantly come in and are disrupting DR attempts. I just want -standard- processes to work as they are intended without all of the constant attempts at derailing them. Ottava Rima (talk) 17:00, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
- It takes two parties to disrupt. Even if you think you are stopping him, you are only increasing the dispute and pushing it further off topic. Ottava Rima (talk) 17:04, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
Largest village revisited
Perhaps I should drop the stick, but while I know there are sources for the Largest village in England article, that misses the point. What did you make of the argument that none of the sources actually discussed the topic of the largest village? The sources give bare claims in passing, i.e. "x is the largest village in England" with no further discussion, and most are primary sources. The lead is all original editorializing; none of that comes from the sources. Is it acceptable practice to stitch together articles out of single line mentions, and should we now abandon the concept of "significant coverage"? Fences&Windows 17:18, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
Will I just go ahead?
Hi, as per the previous conversation, you said you were going to look into his edits and you'd revert. If you haven't time, I'm happy to go ahead myself. --HighKing (talk) 21:47, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
- If you do, HK, then I trust BK will block you and revert, as he did with me (or, to be precise, he allowed you to revert - and I shall do likewise). ðarkuncoll 21:49, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
- Yes Highking should not make changes. Changes that were made which fixed incorrect use of the term British Islands should not be reverted. BritishWatcher (talk) 21:50, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
- Seen as you have now removed British isles from certain articles, how about taking a look at some of the articles HighKing incorrectly reverted changes to where British islands was incorrectly said instead of British Isles. This is all seeming very one sided. BritishWatcher (talk) 23:10, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
- BK, you may be an admin but that doesn't give you any rights over content. If you're concerned to prevent edit wars then have a word with HighKing about it because he is the cause of them all. I note you've finally bowed to his constant niggling and reverted some of the contested articles. I've had a look at these again and I can accept the points you've made on three of them (why didn't you open a section on that discussion page or "Take it to Talk"). Two others were obviously wrong so I've corrected them - again! I suggest we all leave it at that and draw a line under it. As for the suggestion about onesidedness, I agree with it. HighKing is in a minority and he seems to have a political agenda, but you support him. As BW says why not take a good look at his edits? Why not go back to when all this started and review the 100s of articles where he's removed reference to British Isles simply because he doesn't like it. LemonMonday Talk 11:53, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
- Step back you guys, and just have a think about what you're saying. HK can't remove BI (even with references) and has opened a special page to discuss articles. You, on the other hand, believe it's OK to insert and use BI anytime you like, with or without references. (BTW, LM, comment on the content, not the editor. That's policy.) I, for one, am delighted that BK is finally perhaps starting to see and understand the tag-teaming, reverting, illogical applications of policy, namecalling, bullying, and stonewalling that disrupt this project.
- BK, you might want to take a look at the most recent LM reverts of your reverts Epinotia Immindana and Nothofagus Alpina. --HighKing (talk) 12:13, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
- I've reverted Olethreutes arcuella as well. You've deleted potentially useful information so I've put it to Talk. LemonMonday Talk 12:17, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
- BK, you may be an admin but that doesn't give you any rights over content. If you're concerned to prevent edit wars then have a word with HighKing about it because he is the cause of them all. I note you've finally bowed to his constant niggling and reverted some of the contested articles. I've had a look at these again and I can accept the points you've made on three of them (why didn't you open a section on that discussion page or "Take it to Talk"). Two others were obviously wrong so I've corrected them - again! I suggest we all leave it at that and draw a line under it. As for the suggestion about onesidedness, I agree with it. HighKing is in a minority and he seems to have a political agenda, but you support him. As BW says why not take a good look at his edits? Why not go back to when all this started and review the 100s of articles where he's removed reference to British Isles simply because he doesn't like it. LemonMonday Talk 11:53, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
HK, what you call "tag-teaming" is actually what most people would call consensus. ðarkuncoll 12:18, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
- And what precisely has Northern Ireland got to do with this Nothofagus alpina - see your recent revert? LemonMonday Talk 12:19, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
- It was meant to say "NI/Ireland", as I've pointed out on your talkpage. Black Kite 12:23, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
And I suggest you back off. Your implied threat of disruption by me and not you is inappropriate. You seem to have been dragged into the edit war so I'd hate to see you (ab)use your admin powers to enforce your version of something. LemonMonday Talk 12:25, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
- Just a question here, to anyone who cares to answer. Why is there all this emphasis on providing sources for things like British Isles while no mention of sources is made for the topic of the article itself. LemonMonday Talk 12:29, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
Hi Black Kite. Would you mind moving this article to my userspace? If it's note quite notable yet I think it will be soon. I would have asked someone else, but you closed the AfD, so I think I'm supposed to ask you first. Or maybe that's just for DRVs? Anyway, let me know if you have any questions. Thanks. ChildofMidnight (talk) 21:54, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks. I appreciate it. ChildofMidnight (talk) 22:01, 11 October 2009 (UTC)