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== Mutlu tatiller == |
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|align="center"|<font color="white">'''Tüm hayallerin ve dileklerin bu sene gerçek olsun, tüm güzellikler 2023'te seni bulsun! Mutlu, dolu dolu ve hiç unutamayacağın güzelliklerle dolu yeni bir yıl diliyorum! [[User:Visioncurve|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:purple;">Visioncurve</span>]]<sup>''[[User talk:Visioncurve|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:green;">Timendi causa est nescire</span>]]''</sup>''' |
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:{{re|Visioncurve}} Teşekkürler! Sana da. |
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== Balasaguni and Kutadgu Bilig == |
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Hi, Beshogur. How are you doing? I stand in need of your opinion here: I have just reverted a number of certain edits in the "[[Yūsuf Balasaguni]]" ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Y%C5%ABsuf_Balasaguni&diff=1131272882&oldid=1131254768 1]) and "[[Kutadgu Bilig]]" ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kutadgu%20Bilig&diff=1131272669&oldid=1131250694 2]) pages seeing them as edits which push views beyond the requirements of [[WP:NPOV]]. Being more precise, I believe these edits give undue weight to marginal nationalist viewpoints. IMO, adding Uyghur-language translation of Balasaguni's poetry to these pages is just that. I also believe that relating him to modern Uyghurs solely because of Kashgar is misleading just as it would be erroneous to refer to Avicenna as an ''Uzbek'' polymath owing to his birthplace being in Bukhara. Besides, Balasaguni is often regarded as either [[Kara-Khanid Khanate|Karakhanid]] or Central Asian (Eastern Turkic) poet and statesman in modern (decent) sources (though there was one source which went as far as portraying him as a Chinese Muslim...). Let me know your view on this, please! [[User:Visioncurve|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:purple;">Visioncurve</span>]]<sup>''[[User talk:Visioncurve|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:green;">Timendi causa est nescire</span>]]''</sup> 12:13, 3 January 2023 (UTC) |
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:{{re|Visioncurve}} hi. I saw both edits, but just abstained. I agree with you. [[User:Beshogur|Beshogur]] ([[User talk:Beshogur#top|talk]]) 15:18, 3 January 2023 (UTC) |
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::Sorry to ruffle your feathers again, Beshogur, but I know you are pretty good in designing navboxes, so I dare to ask you for yet another favor, to give me a hand with the newly constructed [[Template:Turkomans|Turkoman]] navbox. I have recently created it as per suggestion of the GA reviewer of the "Turkomans" page, who came out with an idea that it would be better to have Turkoman dynasties compiled in a navbox. Thank you, pal. [[User:Visioncurve|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:purple;">Visioncurve</span>]]<sup>''[[User talk:Visioncurve|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:green;">Timendi causa est nescire</span>]]''</sup> |
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:::{{re| Visioncurve}} you're overestimating me :p, anyways, I would remove bold text. Also need a comment on [[Terekeme people]], I suggested to merge this with Karapapakhs, but nobody replied. If they're both the same ethnic group, we should redirect this to [[Karapapakhs]], also maybe you can put Terakime instead of Karapapakh on the template. [[User:Beshogur|Beshogur]] ([[User talk:Beshogur#top|talk]]) 15:46, 5 January 2023 (UTC) |
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::::Splendid, thanks. [[User:Visioncurve|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:purple;">Visioncurve</span>]]<sup>''[[User talk:Visioncurve|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:green;">Timendi causa est nescire</span>]]''</sup> |
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== Heh == |
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[https://www.boredpanda.com/wikipedia-edits/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=organic 106 Funny Wikipedia Edits Internet Vandals Snuck Into Wiki Articles]. #19 was pretty funny. [[User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|talk]]) 10:25, 4 January 2023 (UTC) |
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:{{RE|Gråbergs Gråa Sång}} onion hats 😎 [[User:Beshogur|Beshogur]] ([[User talk:Beshogur#top|talk]]) 15:40, 4 January 2023 (UTC) |
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== Turkic council == |
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Why did you reverted national make-up of Kazakhstan? [[User:Baq Abdizhali|Baq Abdizhali]] ([[User talk:Baq Abdizhali|talk]]) 17:24, 8 January 2023 (UTC) |
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Are you even asking? That's not what the source say. Stop inventing stuff. [[User:Beshogur|Beshogur]] ([[User talk:Beshogur#top|talk]]) 20:45, 8 January 2023 (UTC) |
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== Deletion options for Battle of Capakhchur == |
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EdJohnston's advice per [[User_talk:EdJohnston#Possible_hoax_article]]. --[[User:Kansas Bear|Kansas Bear]] ([[User talk:Kansas Bear|talk]]) 18:15, 28 February 2023 (UTC) |
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Mutlu tatiller
Tüm hayallerin ve dileklerin bu sene gerçek olsun, tüm güzellikler 2023'te seni bulsun! Mutlu, dolu dolu ve hiç unutamayacağın güzelliklerle dolu yeni bir yıl diliyorum! VisioncurveTimendi causa est nescire |
- @Visioncurve: Teşekkürler! Sana da.
Balasaguni and Kutadgu Bilig
Hi, Beshogur. How are you doing? I stand in need of your opinion here: I have just reverted a number of certain edits in the "Yūsuf Balasaguni" (1) and "Kutadgu Bilig" (2) pages seeing them as edits which push views beyond the requirements of WP:NPOV. Being more precise, I believe these edits give undue weight to marginal nationalist viewpoints. IMO, adding Uyghur-language translation of Balasaguni's poetry to these pages is just that. I also believe that relating him to modern Uyghurs solely because of Kashgar is misleading just as it would be erroneous to refer to Avicenna as an Uzbek polymath owing to his birthplace being in Bukhara. Besides, Balasaguni is often regarded as either Karakhanid or Central Asian (Eastern Turkic) poet and statesman in modern (decent) sources (though there was one source which went as far as portraying him as a Chinese Muslim...). Let me know your view on this, please! VisioncurveTimendi causa est nescire 12:13, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Visioncurve: hi. I saw both edits, but just abstained. I agree with you. Beshogur (talk) 15:18, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
- Sorry to ruffle your feathers again, Beshogur, but I know you are pretty good in designing navboxes, so I dare to ask you for yet another favor, to give me a hand with the newly constructed Turkoman navbox. I have recently created it as per suggestion of the GA reviewer of the "Turkomans" page, who came out with an idea that it would be better to have Turkoman dynasties compiled in a navbox. Thank you, pal. VisioncurveTimendi causa est nescire
- @Visioncurve: you're overestimating me :p, anyways, I would remove bold text. Also need a comment on Terekeme people, I suggested to merge this with Karapapakhs, but nobody replied. If they're both the same ethnic group, we should redirect this to Karapapakhs, also maybe you can put Terakime instead of Karapapakh on the template. Beshogur (talk) 15:46, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
- Splendid, thanks. VisioncurveTimendi causa est nescire
- @Visioncurve: you're overestimating me :p, anyways, I would remove bold text. Also need a comment on Terekeme people, I suggested to merge this with Karapapakhs, but nobody replied. If they're both the same ethnic group, we should redirect this to Karapapakhs, also maybe you can put Terakime instead of Karapapakh on the template. Beshogur (talk) 15:46, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
- Sorry to ruffle your feathers again, Beshogur, but I know you are pretty good in designing navboxes, so I dare to ask you for yet another favor, to give me a hand with the newly constructed Turkoman navbox. I have recently created it as per suggestion of the GA reviewer of the "Turkomans" page, who came out with an idea that it would be better to have Turkoman dynasties compiled in a navbox. Thank you, pal. VisioncurveTimendi causa est nescire
Heh
106 Funny Wikipedia Edits Internet Vandals Snuck Into Wiki Articles. #19 was pretty funny. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:25, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Gråbergs Gråa Sång: onion hats 😎 Beshogur (talk) 15:40, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
Turkic council
Why did you reverted national make-up of Kazakhstan? Baq Abdizhali (talk) 17:24, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
Are you even asking? That's not what the source say. Stop inventing stuff. Beshogur (talk) 20:45, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Late modern rump states has been nominated for merging
Category:Late modern rump states has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:45, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
Category:Historical rump states has been nominated for merging
Category:Historical rump states has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:46, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Bulgarian rump states
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Deletion options for Battle of Capakhchur
EdJohnston's advice per User_talk:EdJohnston#Possible_hoax_article. --Kansas Bear (talk) 18:15, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
Category:Turkic Buddhist monarchs has been nominated for merging
Category:Turkic Buddhist monarchs has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:43, 21 March 2023 (UTC)