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== Vegetarianism == |
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Hello, I have seen your last editions in [[Vegetarianism]] article and I will inform you that employ other Wikipedia articles as references is not acceptable. If you do that someone can revert your editions because are not well referenced. If you want to add that data, please search other references (maybe in that Wikipedia articles you linked you can find some of the references needed). [[User:Akhran|Akhran]] ([[User talk:Akhran|talk]]) 15:20, 2 August 2009 (UTC) |
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Ok. Thanks for letting me know! I was not aware of the full weakness of such referencing. [[User:Atmapuri|Atmapuri]] ([[User talk:Atmapuri#top|talk]]) 18:19, 2 August 2009 (UTC) |
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[[Image:Information.svg|25px]] Please do not add commentary or your own [[Wikipedia:No original research|personal analysis]] to Wikipedia articles{{#if:Vegetarianism|, as you did to [[:Vegetarianism]]}}. Doing so violates Wikipedia's [[Wikipedia:Neutral point of view|neutral point of view policy]] and breaches the formal tone expected in an encyclopedia. {{#if:|{{{2}}}|Thank you.}}<!-- Template:uw-npov2 --> <b>[[User:Ohnoitsjamie|OhNo<font color="#D47C14">itsJamie</font>]] [[User talk:Ohnoitsjamie|<sup>Talk</sup>]]</b> 20:28, 3 August 2009 (UTC) |
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==Before Adding References== |
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Before adding refrences as you did [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Vegetarianism&diff=prev&oldid=310748545 here], check that the references are actually relevant to what you are stating. In this instance the refrence was nothing to do with vegetarianism. The section you were looking for actually states there is no restriction on Sikhs to eat meat. Do not confuse Sikhism, with Vaishnavite influenced sects. That is not relevant to this. Thanks--[[User:Sikh-history|<em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:blue;font-size:16px">Sikh-</em><em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:goldenrod;font-size:16px">History</em>]] 20:53, 29 August 2009 (UTC) |
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== September 2009 == |
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[[File:Nuvola apps important.svg|25px]] You currently appear to be engaged in an '''[[WP:Edit war|edit war]]'''{{#if:Vegetarianism|  according to the reverts you have made on [[:Vegetarianism]]}}. Note that the [[Wikipedia:Three-revert rule|three-revert rule]] prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform several reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring even if they do not technically violate the [[Wikipedia:Three-revert rule|three-revert rule]]. When in dispute with another editor you should first try to [[Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines|discuss controversial changes]] to work towards wording and content that gains a [[Wikipedia:Consensus|consensus]] among editors. Should that prove unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek [[WP:DR|dispute resolution]], and in some cases it may be appropriate to request [[WP:PP|page protection]]. Please stop the disruption, otherwise '''you may be [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked]] from editing'''. {{#if:|{{{2}}}|}}<!-- Template:uw-3rr --> [[User:Sinneed| - Sinneed]] ([[User talk:Sinneed|talk]]) 18:45, 15 September 2009 (UTC) |
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You have actually already broken this rule. You have made 4 reverts today against 3 editors. This won't work and is not acceptable. |
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As a courtesy, since no one warned you here on your talk page at 3, I am making the warning now. <s>I am going to remove the content just once more,</s> unless someone has beaten me to it, and encourage you to either reach consensus on the talk page, or perhaps create a sub-page here, and bring the section up to Wiki standards, if you choose. In order to do so, I believe you will have to meet [[wp:NPOV]] or [[wp:BALANCE]], make better use of [[wp:CITE|citations]] by avoiding [[wp:SYNTH]]. Please note that organizations don't do things. People at or in them do. And finally, you really must seek [[wp:consensus]]. |
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Of course, you need not listen to me, I am just an ordinary editor. I encourage you to stop now, and either fix the problems with the content you are adding, or abandon it.[[User:Sinneed| - Sinneed]] ([[User talk:Sinneed|talk]]) 18:51, 15 September 2009 (UTC) |
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:<s>While I was typing this, you reverted out my article flags. This is your 5th reversion today against 3 editors. Very bad idea.</s> (I was seeing a stale history) |
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:If you do not choose to restore them <s>at once</s><s>, I will feel compelled to take this to the edit war board.</s>[[User:Sinneed| - Sinneed]] ([[User talk:Sinneed|talk]]) 18:57, 15 September 2009 (UTC) |
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[[Image:Information.svg|25px]] Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but your recent edit removed content from {{#if:Vegetarianism|[[:Vegetarianism]]|Wikipedia}}. When removing text, please specify a reason in the [[Help:Edit summary|edit summary]] and discuss edits that are likely to be controversial on the article's [[Wikipedia:Talk page|talk page]]. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the text has been restored, as you can see from the {{#if:Vegetarianism|<span class="plainlinks">[{{fullurl:Vegetarianism|action=history}} page history]</span>|[[Help:Page history|page history]]}}. Take a look at the [[Wikipedia:Welcoming committee/Welcome to Wikipedia|welcome page]] to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia, and if you would like to experiment, please use the [[Wikipedia:Sandbox|sandbox]]. Thank you.<!-- Template:uw-delete1 --> ''Leave the flags in to give other editors a chance to see them, and address them. They are an attempt to leave the content in the article, rather than simply remove it.'' [[User:Sinneed| - Sinneed]] ([[User talk:Sinneed|talk]]) 18:59, 15 September 2009 (UTC) |
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::* On review of timestamps, it appears all this was done well after your last reversion, and I was seeing an out-of-date copy of the history. Therefore, in my opinion, taking this to [[wp:AN3|the edit-war board]] would not be appropriate, as no one gave you a [[wp:3rr]] warning. I am no expert. As you have not restored the flags I added to the article, I am going to drop the section again, formally. Please gain [[wp:consensus]] before re-adding this new and challenged content. The [[wp:burden]] is on the editor adding the content. This will be my second revert, and I only make this as you were not warned properly.[[User:Sinneed| - Sinneed]] ([[User talk:Sinneed|talk]]) 22:29, 15 September 2009 (UTC) |
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[[Image:Information.svg|25px]] ''You have again added material that simply is not in the sources which you cite to cover it. This is not acceptable. If the source does not support a statement, it is essential that the source not be cited to cover it.'' [[User:Sinneed| - Sinneed]] ([[User talk:Sinneed|talk]]) 22:48, 15 September 2009 (UTC) |
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[[Image:Nuvola apps important.svg|25px]] ''You were previously warned about using a Wikipedia article as a reference. This applies to all Wiki's. They may say anything whatsoever, and also may change from the time you place the reference: they are not reliable.'' [[User:Sinneed| - Sinneed]] ([[User talk:Sinneed|talk]]) 22:51, 15 September 2009 (UTC) |
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*[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Vegetarianism&diff=prev&oldid=314279792 Here] you have indeed, as the [[wp:edit summary]] states, added content. However, you also deleted content, which, interestingly, conflicts with the content you added. Please address the single value for beef, while it seems the source cites differences between male and female animals.[[User:Sinneed| - Sinneed]] ([[User talk:Sinneed|talk]]) 05:25, 16 September 2009 (UTC) |
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*Please be sure to explain removal of content with your edit summary.[[User:Sinneed| - Sinneed]] ([[User talk:Sinneed|talk]]) 05:25, 16 September 2009 (UTC) |
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*Also, please address the serious issues with the content you have added, repeatedly, against the objections of more than one editor.[[User:Sinneed| - Sinneed]] ([[User talk:Sinneed|talk]]) 05:25, 16 September 2009 (UTC) |
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[[Image:Nuvola apps important.svg|25px]] Please be sure to provide the actual names of articles when citing them. It is misleading to provide a simply incorrect name.[[User:Sinneed| - Sinneed]] ([[User talk:Sinneed|talk]]) 05:36, 16 September 2009 (UTC) |
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[[Image:Stop hand nuvola.svg|30px]] Your recent addition {{#if:Vegetarianism|to [[:Vegetarianism]]}} has been removed, as it appears to have added [[Wikipedia:Copyrights|copyrighted]] material to Wikipedia without permission from the copyright holder. For [[Wikipedia:Copyrights|legal reasons]], we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material; such additions will be deleted. You may use external websites as a source of ''information'', but not as a source of ''sentences''. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators '''will''' be [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked from editing]]. {{#if:|{{{2}}}|}}<!-- Template:uw-copyright --> ''[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Vegetarianism&diff=next&oldid=314297429 Stop it.] You have already been warned for this.'' [[User:Sinneed| - Sinneed]] ([[User talk:Sinneed|talk]]) 16:29, 17 September 2009 (UTC) |
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[[Image:Stop hand nuvola.svg|30px]] Again, at [[Vegetarianism]], you have entered a misleading title on a source. It is *ESSENTIAL* that you not do this, as it makes [[wp:verification]] more difficult, and misleads those who rely on article titles to tell them whether the article is one that may interest them. See [[wp:CITE]], [[wp:V]].[[User:Sinneed| - Sinneed]] ([[User talk:Sinneed|talk]]) 16:31, 17 September 2009 (UTC) |
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Adding direct quote by citing source is not copyright violation. [[User:Atmapuri|Atmapuri]] ([[User talk:Atmapuri#top|talk]]) 19:44, 17 September 2009 (UTC) |
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:Yes indeed. You must comply with [[wp:QUOTE]] in order to quote. You are not quoting. You are simply violating their copyright. You must write the article IN YOUR OWN WORDS. You may not violate their copyright.[[User:Sinneed| - Sinneed]] ([[User talk:Sinneed|talk]]) 19:55, 17 September 2009 (UTC) |
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I followed your instruction and used my own words. [[User:Atmapuri|Atmapuri]] ([[User talk:Atmapuri#top|talk]]) 19:58, 17 September 2009 (UTC) |
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:No, you didn't. But you did improve things to the point that just trying to fix them for you was easier than continuing to revert you under the listed exceptions to [[wp:3rr]]. Please read and follow [[wp:copyright]], [[wp:quote]], and please *STRONGLY CONSIDER* bending to [[wp:consensus]]. Your editing is problematic, as you do not follow Wikipedia's rules and guidelines, you do not follow [[wp:consensus]], you [[wp:edit war]]. If you continue down this path, I fear you will eventually be unable to edit.[[User:Sinneed| - Sinneed]] ([[User talk:Sinneed|talk]]) 20:14, 17 September 2009 (UTC) |
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== Focus on content, not editors. == |
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[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AVegetarianism&diff=316640253&oldid=316567444 Here], you have made a borderline personal attack. Please focus on the content, not the editors.- [[User talk:Sinneed|<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.3em 0.3em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Sinneed</span>]] 12:37, 28 September 2009 (UTC) |
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==Stop It!== |
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Stop trying to turn Sikh related articles into Vaishnavism. Unless you can provide ISBN refrences that states the Sikh Rehat Maryada (that published by the Sikh Governing body, Shiromani Gurudwara Prabhandhak Commitee), bans Meat, then stop. Spurious links to blog like sites and are affiliated to Sikh cults will not cut the mustard. Also, if you try and use one liners like this ''“The world eats dead carcasses, living by neglect and greed. Like a goblin, or a beast, they kill and eat the forbidden carcasses of meat." '', to distort Bani, I will remove them. This has nothing to do with meat and I suggest you go to sites like [http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sikh-sikhi-sikhism/8828-fools-who-wrangle-over-flesh.html this] to learn more about Sikhism. Regards --[[User:Sikh-history|<em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:blue;font-size:16px">Sikh-</em><em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:goldenrod;font-size:16px">History</em>]] 13:33, 2 October 2009 (UTC) |
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== Section in [[Vegetarianism]] == |
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Hi, Atmapuri. I would like to take a moment to express my sympathies. It certainly can be frustrating when one's hard work is deleted, especially when it's a topic one cares deeply about. Please understand that, while it may look like it to you now, there is not any ill-will against you or vegetarianism. In fact, many of us who are opposed to the content you wrote are also vegetarians, including me. We are only trying to uphold Wikipedia's policies as we understand them in order to improve Wikipedia; this doesn't mean what you added was necessarily wrong, incorrect, or not useful somewhere; it just means we don't think it fits in Wikipedia. I sympathize with you on this and hope it doesn't turn you off of editing, as we can always use your help. -[[User:Kotra|kotra]] ([[User talk:Kotra|talk]]) 18:45, 6 October 2009 (UTC) |
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:Hi Atmapuri, I have responded to your comment on [[User_talk:Kotra#Deleting_section_on_impact_of_animal_hormones_on_children|my talk page]]. -[[User:Kotra|kotra]] ([[User talk:Kotra|talk]]) 22:53, 6 October 2009 (UTC) |
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== October 2009 == |
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[[Image:Stop hand nuvola.svg|30px]] This is the '''only warning''' you will receive for your disruptive comments. <br> The next time you make a [[Wikipedia:No personal attacks|personal attack]]{{#if:talk:vegetarianism| as you did at [[:talk:vegetarianism]]}}, you '''will''' be [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked]] for disruption. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. {{#if:|{{{2}}}|}}<!-- Template:uw-npa4im --> ''"you are positioning yourself as the biggest protector of small girls to have the right for the first period at the age of 8" |
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Do NOT do this again. |
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Do not comment on me at all.'' - [[User talk:Sinneed|<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.3em 0.3em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Sinneed</span>]] 04:27, 14 October 2009 (UTC) |
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==Thanks== |
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Revision as of 08:56, 7 January 2010
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AfD nomination of Vishwaguru Mahamandaleshwar Paramhans Swami Maheshwarananda Puri
I have nominated Vishwaguru Mahamandaleshwar Paramhans Swami Maheshwarananda Puri, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vishwaguru Mahamandaleshwar Paramhans Swami Maheshwarananda Puri. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.
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- Hi Atma. Just to clarify, Wikipedia requires that content be based on reliable independent sources (like newspapers, magazines, books, etc.). Articles are included based on an assessment of WP:Notability which requires substantial coverage independent of the subject from reliable sources. Let me know if you have any questions. ChildofMidnight (talk) 16:41, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
Hello. But we have provided a very grand number of such sources. You can not dispute the books. They can be found in libraries in USA also. There are also over 15 references to newspapers magazines and TV shows. Granted, not all in english and not all by major US networks, but I am working on getting more. UN does not count? However, there are bound to be other editors who speak languages other than English. I also dont get it quite. What kind of notability for example is provided for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swami_Satyananda_Saraswati that I did not provide??? The point is, any kind of notability that you want we can find. The question seems only. What exactly do you want to have? I have read WP:Notability and do not see what are you looking for, if that what is already provided is not enough. Can you please be more specific?
- I think you've done an excellent job improving the article. The books by the author don't necessarily contribute to the subject's notability unless they have been covered by reliable independent sources and are themselves notable. The key is independent coverage in reliable sources. I think the media coverage you've added is exactly what was needed. Please remember to sign your comments using four tildes ~~~~ and let me know if you have any questions. Once the AfD closes I will move the article to the appropriate title. ChildofMidnight (talk) 18:47, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
Thanks, that is good news :) The question now is how to address other flags which have been raised, especially like neutrality and advertisement. I have tried to address both of those, but could appreciate some hints here. Atmapuri (talk) 11:03, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
March 2009
Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, your addition of one or more external links to the page Vishwaguru Mahamandaleshwar Paramhans Swami Maheshwarananda Puri has been reverted.
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References
Hello there. These links (WP:Citing sources and WP:MOS) contain some invaluable material about inline citations. In general, we add material first and then citations to support the material not the other way around. Also read WP:EL to understand why extensive collections of external links are deprecated. Thanks.TheRingess (talk) 14:22, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
If you delete references, you make it impossible to add citations. You also make all the content supported by references thus far, even if not supported with citations, an open contest for deletion. I can understand the need for clean-up, but would appreciate, if that would be done, by properly formatting content and reorganizing the page, rather then simply deleting anything that does not immediately conform to your interpretation of highest Wiki standards. Pressing a delete button does not require any special skill or work, but can easily remove valuable information. Atmapuri (talk) 07:58, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
Sorry, but non-free images of people who are still alive aren't allowed. Someone could conceivably take a picture of this person and release it under a free license. Stifle (talk) 11:59, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
July 2009
Welcome to Wikipedia. The project's content policies require that all articles be written from a neutral point of view, and not introduce bias or give undue weight to viewpoints. Please bear this in mind when making edits such as your recent edit to Vegetarianism. You may also wish to read the introduction to editing. Thank you. Alansohn (talk) 18:09, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
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Thanks for your comments on Karma in Hinduism. I will add this. Raj2004 (talk) 14:16, 2 January 2010 (UTC)