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:: Dear Mark, please see above. Thanks, [[User:Antifinnugor|Antifinnugor]] |
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Hi Antifinnugor. I first reverted your last changes to the [[Talk:Uralic languages]] page since they were personal attacks and as such completely irrelevant to the discussion. Then I changed my mind and un-reverted, since I think it was not correct to delete your statements which were directed to [[User:Nyenyec|Nyenyec]]. I am sorry for the possible confusion. |
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Regardless, I must urge you to stop from making personal attacks. Please refer to the [[Wikipedia:Policies_and_guidelines]] and in particular to [[Wikipedia:No personal attacks]]. Wikipedia is a better place if we try to cooperate in peace, whatever differences there are between our views. |
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Kind regards [[User:Mark Dingemanse|<nowiki> </nowiki>]]— [[User:Mark Dingemanse|mark]] [[User Talk:Mark Dingemanse|✎]] 17:17, 20 Nov 2004 (UTC) |
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Hi, and thank you for registering. I had to revert Finno-Ugric languages to the previous version since your version did not mention any academic sources. Furthermore, I must say I have some trouble with the way you are participating in the ongoing discussion on the Talk page. Please adress the serious doubts that are raised, instead of repeating the same questions. — mark ✎ 20:55, 17 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- I think, your reverting is absolutely not correct. My serious doubts in the existence of the group are compressed in those two simple questions. Our brain is there, that we use it. I repeat the simple questions, because they are the absolutely key thing for the existence or non-existence of this artificial mini-group. Please think about this. As soon as anybody can satisfactory answer them I will stop asking them. So simple is that. Does it irritate you so much, that the emperor is naked, that you call other "trolls" for not thinking the false way? Thanks, Antifinnugor 20:12, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Dear Antifinnugor, your questions have to come in the second place. First you have to understand and appreciate how Wikipedia works. To produce articles of encyclopedic quality, contributors have to provide reliable sources. To be honest, the matter does not irritate me. I am not a Finno-Ugricist. I'm am just a linguist and a Wikipedian concerned with the quality of Wikipedia.
- Well, assuming, somebody writes, the earth is a round tray, and an other person proves it is not, you then revert to the plan tray article? That's what you are doing here. Antifinnugor 18:57, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)
On a sidenote, I do not think your assertions are correct: your simple questions are not 'the absolutely key thing' for the existence or non-existence or this grouping.
- Dear Mark, you simply negate what I state, without any argumentation. This is really senseless. Those two questions show the unjustifiedness of this artificial group. No common features, no common vocabulary, and the single common feature, agglutination characterizes a lot of other languages. This is absolutely a key thing. Antifinnugor 18:57, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)
But it is better to continue that discussion on Talk:Finno-Ugric languages. — mark ✎ 10:14, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Dear Mark, you revert cold blooded my additions, even thought you cannot prove, that they are not correct. That is an incorrect behaviur. Antifinnugor 18:57, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Dear Antifinnugor, affirmanti incumbit probatio — in other words, do NOT shift the burden of proof to someone else.
- dear Mark, I do not shift anything. I just want to illustrate, that ANYBODY, who uses his head to think, will very soon see, that these mini, unatural groups are non existing. It is that simple. ~~
It is ridiculous to expect me or any other Wikipedian to prove that your unsubstantiated additions to Wikipedia articles are not correct.
- They are not unsubstantiated. If they were, you could answer the 2 simple questions. ~~
As repeatedly stated, you should back up your claims by reliable, academic sources.
- I named one source, Dr. Maracz article, and another,professor Angela Marcantonio's one. I also cite it long. Did you read them and understand them? Antifinnugor 22:53, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)
You refuse to do that, resulting in others 'cold bloodedly reverting your additions'. You might call it incorrect behavior; but in fact, it is simply how Wikipedia works. You should look out for another place to ventilate your personal opinion if you do not like it that way. No hard feelings. This is not a personal matter. I just happen to like the quality of Wikipedia. — mark ✎ 21:48, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Dear Mark, please see above. Thanks, Antifinnugor
No personal attacks
Hi Antifinnugor. I first reverted your last changes to the Talk:Uralic languages page since they were personal attacks and as such completely irrelevant to the discussion. Then I changed my mind and un-reverted, since I think it was not correct to delete your statements which were directed to Nyenyec. I am sorry for the possible confusion.
Regardless, I must urge you to stop from making personal attacks. Please refer to the Wikipedia:Policies_and_guidelines and in particular to Wikipedia:No personal attacks. Wikipedia is a better place if we try to cooperate in peace, whatever differences there are between our views.