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I sincerely hope that this helps. - <b>[[User:Jc37|jc37]]</b> 02:56, 13 June 2023 (UTC) |
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== Notification of request for Arbitration == |
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You are involved in a recently filed request for arbitration. Please review the request at [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case#AlisonW]] and, if you wish to do so, enter your statement and any other material you wish to submit to the Arbitration Committee. As threaded discussion is not permitted on most arbitration pages, please ensure that you make all comments in your own section only. Additionally, the [[Wikipedia:Arbitration guide|guide to arbitration]] and the [[Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Procedures#Arbitration proceedings|Arbitration Committee's procedures]] may be of use. |
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Just so that the message gets through: what is WP:TRIVIA is not encyclopedic. Veverve (talk) 05:46, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
Notice of Administrators' noticeboard discussion
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Potentially involved block by AlisonW. Thank you. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she|they|xe) 01:21, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
- Please note that per WP:ADMINACCT you are 'expected to respond promptly and civilly' to the concerns raised in the thread above. AndyTheGrump (talk) 21:28, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
- Hi Alison. It's on your interests to engage with the thread. Secretlondon (talk) 10:13, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
A thought
AN/I is what it is. I don't think I'm telling you anything new.
I just thought I would mention 2 things worth thinking about.
The first is that if you voluntarily give up the tools right now (though not necessarily a bad idea), it would likely be considered "under a cloud" (See Wikipedia:ADMIN#Restoration_of_admin_tools.) And if you decided later you wanted them back, you would need to go through RfA, which probably would mean (at least) 6 months to a year of active editing prior to it.
Second, I look at your responses, and I can understand what you're reading and why you're interpreting the guidances in that way. But it's in the details. and also how you went about it.
An initial rollback due to unexplained removal? Could be fine, depending on the circumstances. Continued unexplained removal? Same thing.
But that's not what subsequently happened. The editor provided their reasoning. Now you, presumably, saw their interpretation of WP:TRIVIA as flawed. But at that point - merely based upon your and their comments - it became a difference of opinion about whether certain content should or should not be added to an article per WP:TRIVIA. And so it became not a behavioural issue, but then a content issue. And you were just drawn into a content discussion in edit summaries. It's a trap. Likely unintentional on all sides, but you seemingly fell into it nonetheless. It's easy to do. As an admin, you're trying to help, and oops. It's not uncommon. Hence why you're hearing several people suggest that you apologise. We're human, and mistakes can happen.
And that's probably also why you are seeing the responses about WP:INVOLVED, that you are.
One additional thing I'll note. I see that the editor removed the text with no explanation, and then restored it [1], and then removed it again with an explanation of WP:TRIVIA, the second time. I wonder if you got caught in between those edits and initially saw the unexplained revert. I note this, because it looks like, when you did your initial revert months later, your edit summary calls it an unexplained removal, and I wonder if you might not have seen the subsequent edits.
Anyway, I posted this here in the hopes that it better clarifies. And everything above was a.) with an outpouring of good faith, and b.) with my admin hat off, obviously.
I sincerely hope that this helps. - jc37 02:56, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
Notification of request for Arbitration
You are involved in a recently filed request for arbitration. Please review the request at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case#AlisonW and, if you wish to do so, enter your statement and any other material you wish to submit to the Arbitration Committee. As threaded discussion is not permitted on most arbitration pages, please ensure that you make all comments in your own section only. Additionally, the guide to arbitration and the Arbitration Committee's procedures may be of use.
Thanks, Ad Orientem (talk) 17:30, 13 June 2023 (UTC)