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Yazidis and Sheikh Adi
Hi there,
Welcome to Wikipedia, to portray Sheikh Adi as a Muslim as a new editor, you need a better source than some Arabic script website. I encourage you to visit the talk page over this matter.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 22:17, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
- Sheikh Adi might have been a Sufi, this is not in dispute, but he is not venered by the Yazdidi as a muslim. The christians also don't venere Jesus Christ as a Jew, which he was, too.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 23:54, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
- Hi there, I have noticed that it is already stated in the article that at once in his life he was a muslim, so there is no need to add a double or triple reference for it. I think you were reverted because your edits make it seem that the Yazidi worship a Muslim or their main personified saint was buried as a Muslim. Muslims, they don't like so much because Muslims tried to annihilate the Yazidi several timesParadise Chronicle (talk) 00:23, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
- He wasn't "Once" in his life Muslim , he was a Muslim all his life and your Islamophobia isn't an excuse to hide facts , you accuse Yazidis of Islamophobia and regard it as an excuse to hide facts to appease what you have deemed as "Islamophobes" like you . Your Jesus example is a logical fallacy because Jesus was regarded as a Heretic , maniac , apostate and illegitimate child of the adulterous Mary who opened her private parts to Roman soldiers as Talmud and Midrash says so while Adi ibn Musafir is a venerated Muslim saint by Muslims and regarded as a Muslim missionary to Kurds . he was a muslim and you don't have the right to remove this clear fact . go to psychiatric to heal your Islamophobia and stop using your own Islamophobic projection on others , your Islamophobic generalization of how "Yazidis don't like Muslims so much " is a miserable attempt to frame Yazidis and Muslims User:AleviQizilbash 13 september 2020 (UTC)
- I was going to welcome you to Wikiproject Biography, as I try to do with all newly-joined participants in that group, but reading above how you attacked another editor as an Islamophobe and needing psychiatric care, I not only do not wish to welcome you to Wikiproject Biography any more, I wish to advise you to not further degrade the Wikipedia editorial community. Thanks, and try to do better. - AppleBsTime (talk) 13:19, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
- When a user keeps deleting my editions and verified sources over 5 times even more to hide a crystal clear fact then finally send me a message and cites " Yazidis don't like Muslims much" as an excuse for her/his behavior then she/he is an Islamophobe , and if you justify what he/she said then you are an Islamophobe as well and I don't need your hypocrite welcoming either . since when we cite " group x don't like group y " as an excuse to hide facts !! and delete the contributions of other editors ?!! for example there are Muslim saints venerated by hindus and we can't hide the fact that they are Muslims then cite " Hindus don't like Muslims much " as an excuse for this behavior and if you agree with this Islamophobic behavior then you too needs psychiatric help as Psychiatric Times has published that islamophobia is a mental illness https://www.psychiatrictimes.com/view/islamophobia-and-psychiatry-recognition-prevention-and-treatment User:AleviQizilbash 15 september 2020 (UTC)
- I'm one of the nicest people around here, and I harbor absolutely no animus toward the people of Islam. I can tell you aren't likely to last very long here. - AppleBsTime (talk) 16:22, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
- You are defending her Islamophobic behavior and attacking me then claims that you harbor no animus toward the people of Islam . Wikipedia is built for respectful academic collaboration between users to produce class A verified encyclopedia for the world's benefit , it wasn't built for Islamophobes who want to hide facts and cite " group x don't like Muslims " as an excuse . Oh Mr BSTime can tell that I will not last here , keep your threats to yourselves and don't talk to me again anyway , I will regard any of your future comments in my personal page as harassment User:AleviQizilbash 15 september 2020 (UTC)
- I have asked for support of an admin hereParadise Chronicle (talk) 20:37, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
- You and your AppleBsTime are the ones who are harassing me on my own personal page and you are the one who cited your Islamophobic comment " Yazidis don't like Muslims so much because Muslims tried to annihilate the Yazidi several times " as an excuse to vandalize my editions and backed up sources and links more than 5 times repeatedly on Sheikh Adi ibn Musafir page , you didn't even apologize or said sorry for what you said or done and keeps coming over and over again together with your AppleBsTime user to harass me about the same issue , neither you nor the user AppleBsTime are allowed to comment on my own personal page , if there is anything academic worth of discussion that could serve the Encyclopedia then send it to me on the talk page of the articles , otherwise you aren't allowed to comment on my personal page anymore User:AleviQizilbash 16 september 2020 (UTC)
- I have asked for support of an admin hereParadise Chronicle (talk) 20:37, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
- You are defending her Islamophobic behavior and attacking me then claims that you harbor no animus toward the people of Islam . Wikipedia is built for respectful academic collaboration between users to produce class A verified encyclopedia for the world's benefit , it wasn't built for Islamophobes who want to hide facts and cite " group x don't like Muslims " as an excuse . Oh Mr BSTime can tell that I will not last here , keep your threats to yourselves and don't talk to me again anyway , I will regard any of your future comments in my personal page as harassment User:AleviQizilbash 15 september 2020 (UTC)
- I'm one of the nicest people around here, and I harbor absolutely no animus toward the people of Islam. I can tell you aren't likely to last very long here. - AppleBsTime (talk) 16:22, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
- When a user keeps deleting my editions and verified sources over 5 times even more to hide a crystal clear fact then finally send me a message and cites " Yazidis don't like Muslims much" as an excuse for her/his behavior then she/he is an Islamophobe , and if you justify what he/she said then you are an Islamophobe as well and I don't need your hypocrite welcoming either . since when we cite " group x don't like group y " as an excuse to hide facts !! and delete the contributions of other editors ?!! for example there are Muslim saints venerated by hindus and we can't hide the fact that they are Muslims then cite " Hindus don't like Muslims much " as an excuse for this behavior and if you agree with this Islamophobic behavior then you too needs psychiatric help as Psychiatric Times has published that islamophobia is a mental illness https://www.psychiatrictimes.com/view/islamophobia-and-psychiatry-recognition-prevention-and-treatment User:AleviQizilbash 15 september 2020 (UTC)
- I was going to welcome you to Wikiproject Biography, as I try to do with all newly-joined participants in that group, but reading above how you attacked another editor as an Islamophobe and needing psychiatric care, I not only do not wish to welcome you to Wikiproject Biography any more, I wish to advise you to not further degrade the Wikipedia editorial community. Thanks, and try to do better. - AppleBsTime (talk) 13:19, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
- He wasn't "Once" in his life Muslim , he was a Muslim all his life and your Islamophobia isn't an excuse to hide facts , you accuse Yazidis of Islamophobia and regard it as an excuse to hide facts to appease what you have deemed as "Islamophobes" like you . Your Jesus example is a logical fallacy because Jesus was regarded as a Heretic , maniac , apostate and illegitimate child of the adulterous Mary who opened her private parts to Roman soldiers as Talmud and Midrash says so while Adi ibn Musafir is a venerated Muslim saint by Muslims and regarded as a Muslim missionary to Kurds . he was a muslim and you don't have the right to remove this clear fact . go to psychiatric to heal your Islamophobia and stop using your own Islamophobic projection on others , your Islamophobic generalization of how "Yazidis don't like Muslims so much " is a miserable attempt to frame Yazidis and Muslims User:AleviQizilbash 13 september 2020 (UTC)
- Hi there, I have noticed that it is already stated in the article that at once in his life he was a muslim, so there is no need to add a double or triple reference for it. I think you were reverted because your edits make it seem that the Yazidi worship a Muslim or their main personified saint was buried as a Muslim. Muslims, they don't like so much because Muslims tried to annihilate the Yazidi several timesParadise Chronicle (talk) 00:23, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
September 2020
Hello, I'm Paradise Chronicle. I noticed that you made a comment on the page User talk:AleviQizilbash that didn't seem very civil, so it has been removed. Wikipedia is built on collaboration, so it's one of our core principles to interact with one another in a polite and respectful manner. If you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 10:39, 13 Septepage titlember 2020 (UTC)
- Nothing was removed unless you are seeing something that I don't see . Yes Wikipedia is built on collaboration , so when I spend hours in collecting and documenting authentic sources about a crystal clear fact then you should collaborate and don't remove such facts and sources instead of citing " Yazidis don't like Muslims " as an excuse of your unprofessional and biased behavior of deleting all the sources and facts repeatedly for more than 5 times User talk:AleviQizilbash 13 September 2020 (UTC)
- You called me an Islamophobe and accused me of Islamophobia. I don't know where I was Islamophobic, I just recalled the facts.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 19:07, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
- When you delete someone's editions and sources then cites " Yazidis don't like Muslims Much because Muslims annihilated them" , then you are not only an Islamophobe but also biased and lacks academic discipline , you can't generalize and accuse all Yazidis of Islamophobia just like how you can't generalize and accuse all Muslims of terrorism against yazidis , moreover you can't cite your Islamophobic comment of " Yazidis don't like Muslims so much" as an excuse to delete verified editions backed up with verified sources User talk:AleviQizilbash 14 September 2020 (UTC)
- Well you even repeat and confirm the Islamophobe part. I don't hold a grudge, but others won't be so tolerant. Just wanted to warn you. Happy editing. It seems you are really into Sheikh Adi the "Muslim". Would be nice to read of a well known muslim school which honors Sheikh Adi, as he according to you is "known for Islam". I copy edited a part of the books, as you just re-included a part which is not according to WP:copypaste. Further on we might want to move the discussion on to the Sheikh Adi Talk Page. (If an issue comes up again).Paradise Chronicle (talk) 19:56, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
- The Memim source was actually copying from the German Book Die Yeziden im Irak by Irene Dulz , that's why I decided to include the both sources , the German Wiki also quotes the German source directly for the books of Sheikh Adi as you can see here https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/%CA%BFAd%C4%AB_ibn_Mus%C4%81fir . Sheikh Adi was certainly a Muslim , not only according to me , this is a crystal clear fact , maybe you have no information about the issue , there is nothing wrong about being ignorant about something yet it doesn't mean that it's not true , Sheikh Adi is honored among the Sunni school with it's Ash'ari as well as Salafi and deobandi movements , I've cited a deobani website which clearly praises him , just like how Ibn Taymiyyah praised him , there are also many first hand Arab sources that praises him and I've quoted the Arab sources before and you decided to delete them , fine , that's why I'm using sources with Latin script now . You can check this verified Youtube channel of Arab Sunni Salafi preacher studying and teaching the books of Sheikh Adi to his sunni audience and regard his books as "Sunni' books" that Sunnis should learn from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUDDa1saUXc , you can use google translate to check the title . here is another Youtube channel of a Sunni Ash'ari scholar where he speaks in Arabic about Sheikh Adi as one of the great saints of Islam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YET5Q4IqCI , I've quoted to you many English sources as well about this fact . I have no problem to move the discussion to the talk page User talk:AleviQizilbash 14 September 2020 (UTC)
- Well you even repeat and confirm the Islamophobe part. I don't hold a grudge, but others won't be so tolerant. Just wanted to warn you. Happy editing. It seems you are really into Sheikh Adi the "Muslim". Would be nice to read of a well known muslim school which honors Sheikh Adi, as he according to you is "known for Islam". I copy edited a part of the books, as you just re-included a part which is not according to WP:copypaste. Further on we might want to move the discussion on to the Sheikh Adi Talk Page. (If an issue comes up again).Paradise Chronicle (talk) 19:56, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
- When you delete someone's editions and sources then cites " Yazidis don't like Muslims Much because Muslims annihilated them" , then you are not only an Islamophobe but also biased and lacks academic discipline , you can't generalize and accuse all Yazidis of Islamophobia just like how you can't generalize and accuse all Muslims of terrorism against yazidis , moreover you can't cite your Islamophobic comment of " Yazidis don't like Muslims so much" as an excuse to delete verified editions backed up with verified sources User talk:AleviQizilbash 14 September 2020 (UTC)
- You called me an Islamophobe and accused me of Islamophobia. I don't know where I was Islamophobic, I just recalled the facts.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 19:07, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
Warning
You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you make personal attacks on other people. Comment on content, not on fellow editors. You need to stop accusing other editors of Islamophobia without specific reasons other than your own opinion. If you repeat this you will be blocked. Please desist. Black Kite (talk) 22:47, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
- OK , There is a user with french IP 176.139.115.212 vandalizing the article of Sheikh Adi ibn Musafir , revert his vandalism Kite .
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sheikh_Adi_ibn_Musafir&action=history here is the history of editing User:AleviQizilbash 17 September 2020 (UTC)
- I learned how to revert vandalism now so don't worry . as for the other issue , ok , I desist , but you also should warn user Paradise Chronicle that reverting good-faith actions of other editors can also be disruptive and may lead to the reverter being temporarily blocked from editing. as Wikipedia rules of reverting here says https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Reverting She kept reverting my editions and removing my sources over 5 times then cited this reason of ' Yazidis don't like Muslims much " as an excuse to her behavior which violates the rules of reverting User:AleviQizilbash 17 September 2020 (UTC)
- And The User Paradise Chronicle was partially blocked before from Tell Abyad over her same behavior of violating reverting rules https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Paradise_Chronicle#Partial_block_from_Tell_Abyad , her editing warring behavior is unconstructive and creates animosity between editors as wikipedia's reverting rules says https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:3RR User:AleviQizilbash 18 September 2020 (UTC)
- I learned how to revert vandalism now so don't worry . as for the other issue , ok , I desist , but you also should warn user Paradise Chronicle that reverting good-faith actions of other editors can also be disruptive and may lead to the reverter being temporarily blocked from editing. as Wikipedia rules of reverting here says https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Reverting She kept reverting my editions and removing my sources over 5 times then cited this reason of ' Yazidis don't like Muslims much " as an excuse to her behavior which violates the rules of reverting User:AleviQizilbash 17 September 2020 (UTC)