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Pls help I have create double redirect by mistake I want to delete the same {{unsigned2|08:59, 29 August 2007|Anisa3k}} |
Pls help I have create double redirect by mistake I want to delete the same {{unsigned2|08:59, 29 August 2007|Anisa3k}} |
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:''Admins'' delete pages, but you do not really need to delete anything to fix a double redirect. Just fix the link at the start of the chain. PS: As it says n the box at the top of my talk page, please sign your coments. '''''[[User:Adrian M. H.|<font color="Gray">Adrian</font>]] [[User talk:Adrian M. H.|<font color="Gray">M. H.</font>]]''''' 10:55, 29 August 2007 (UTC) |
:''Admins'' delete pages, but you do not really need to delete anything to fix a double redirect. Just fix the link at the start of the chain. PS: As it says n the box at the top of my talk page, please sign your coments. '''''[[User:Adrian M. H.|<font color="Gray">Adrian</font>]] [[User talk:Adrian M. H.|<font color="Gray">M. H.</font>]]''''' 10:55, 29 August 2007 (UTC) |
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== Spamming External Links on M.U.L..E. violates Software Copyrights == |
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This is complain for Wikipage on M.U.L.E. [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M.u.l.e.]] |
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BLACKBEARD27K is linking to his personal Website. [http://atarimule.neotechgaming.com/ M.U.L.E. Software Download] When that was deleted by the Admins, he is now (indirectly) linking to it via another personal Website. |
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(1) BLACKBEARD27K is offering, on the above Website, for download a pirated / modified / hacked version of the game M.U.L.E. without the permission of the original authors or publishers ATARI. This is a serious violation of copyright material. |
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(2) It is in violation of WP:EL as it is SPAM and he is trying to propagate his own web-site Forum here. |
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(3) Wikipedia is NOT a collection of links. |
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(4) Also, using common sense, no one should download any executable software from a very unreliable source (as above). Such software may contain trojans and keyloggers which steal your personal information (including Credit Card Nos & passwords) |
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This individual persists in reverting the deletions. I have deleted the offending link. Please give your opinion regarding this on the M.U.L.E. discussion page. |
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Thank you ! |
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[[User:Hungrywolf|Hungrywolf]] 11:33, 29 August 2007 (UTC) |
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Music Schools
Hi Adrian You kindly replied to my cry for help editing categories in Music Schools in the Republic of Ireland. I now have the schools added to the list which has made old info redundant but can't delete it. The original schools with links are included in my new list so all is fair. Apologies for my ignorance. Dig the Kandinsky. Why can I not add tildas? Artydiana — Preceding unsigned comment added by Artydiana (talk • contribs) 21:16, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
- I assume you mean tildes; Shift + # four times, or the signature button in the editing toolbar (javascript permissions required) should work equally well. Nice pic, isn't it; I change them around occasionally. What do you mean by "list"? Do you mean the category, or an actual list (WP has those, too)? Adrian M. H. 21:23, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
For some reason the hash key doesn't work on my laptop but --Artydiana 00:06, 1 August 2007 (UTC) does so thanks for that! There is too steep a learning curve between Tutorial and rest of instructions which are a foreign language to me at the moment. My Music Schools in the Republic of Ireland article on WP is already on page 1 of Google search, warts and all, so I need to learn fast! Got a message bot on previous now redundant article to say it needed Speedy Deletion, but it doesn't tell me how to delete it or whether an administrator does it for you?
My other question is to do with deletion too. Not sure what you mean by an actual list but within the category I have added an ordinary alphabetical list of names of schools and want to delete or ask someone to delete what was previously within that category because I have included it in my list. --Artydiana 00:06, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
- See Wikipedia:Lists and Help:Category for more info, including the differences between them. In Category:Music schools in the Republic of Ireland, you had a list where there shoudl – at most – be a brief one-line description of the use of that category. If you want to retrieve the list and keep it in a sandbox, you can pick it from a previous diff out of the history. I removed it because it does not belong there. I'll cover deletion policy tomorrow; it's 2am here now. Adrian M. H. 01:10, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
- *yawn* Right, I am now just about awake enough to describe deletion policy! When I checked your contribs, I could not see any article, which means that it must already have been speedied. That page describes the process by which the page was nominated and deleted. If you can remember the exact title, you can check the reason for the deletion by searching for the page; the edit window will have a link to the deletion log. CSD describes the criteria for speedy deletion. We also have Proposed Deletion, which is a softer version that was designed to take some of the strain away from the full-on Articles for Deletion by nominating uncontroversial candidates that do not meet SD, but would be a cert if they went to AFD. Pages of interest include Deletion policy and Why was my page deleted? The See Also section at DP lists all the useful pages. All deletions have to be performed by administrators, who have the extra tools required. That is basically what an admin is; a good, experienced editor who has a few extra tools. Adrian M. H. 11:15, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
Thanks
Thanks for the help on the edits - I feel like an imbecile as I learn this medium - and that after 10 years of post-grad education!
Again thanks for the Makuleke edits - I learned alot!
Profberger 19:10, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
3O on Sole (foot)
Thanks for the 3O on Sole (foot). That's it!
WLU 20:40, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
Thread at EA
Hi, Adrian --
Just a quick note to thank you for your kindness in responding to my posting for help re: creating External Links for our raptor website and thanks for running the test on our URL. You are absolutely correct -- our website is not being systematically blocked (and I should have thought of doing the same thing myself!).
My small staff and I have kicked this around, especially after reading the editor's comments on conflicts of interest, and we have decided to not spend any more time on Wikipedia. To tell you the truth, we were trying to Wikipedia a favor on our dollar, not the other way around, since their equivalent accounts on these species are pretty weak and also contain some inaccuracies. After all, we have already captured our target audience, and we aren't hurting for users. Ironically, other people have been adding links to our website in Wikipedia, so we will just let the world do this stuff for us.
Again, I appreciate your time on this matter!
Best regards,
Lloyd — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lkiff (talk • contribs) 00:41, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
English/Scottish/etc.
You may be interested to know that Wikipedia:Manual of Style (United Kingdom-related articles) has now been created and there is a discussion taking place on the talk page. Readro 21:35, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
- Yeah, thanks for letting me know. It appeared on my watchlist when you created it! Let me know if I can help with anything. Adrian M. H. 22:01, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
Refactoring
Hi Adrian,
Please forgive my impertinence in refactoring your entry. No harm was intended and no change in meaning was effected, which is in keeping with the purposing of refactoring:
Your original entry no doubt unintendedly left the quote hanging out to the left as if someone else had interjected it:
I only meant to indent it so as to correct the placement and to make sure no one misunderstood who had made that edit:
Sorry to have caused any consternation. Regards, -- Fyslee/talk 03:28, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
- That's OK. It's not a big deal. But the format was intentional. Adrian M. H. 08:11, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
CQG Inc.
We are just putting information about the company and its products/services, not promoting it or for that matter trying to. There are other companies in our line of work who have articles similar to ours, we read the policies and were unaware if we did violate them. We are just following examples of other companies and posting an article on this website to inform not promote. CQG Inc. 18:08, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
- "We" creates a potential problem. Namely, conflict of interest. That is an important issue; most of the CORP-related articles on WP were not written by anyone who has any association with the companies in question. When we become aware that such a connection exists, we flag it up and it gets closer scrutiny. COI undermines neutrality and that policy is one of WP's five pillars (ie. extremely important). Additionally, most of these articles (by no means all, but we do what we can to remove them when we find them) meet the minimum basics such as notability (see the Corp link) and verifiability. The content on your user page currently fails that last policy, which would leave it subject to deletion. I recommend that you check the guidelines/policies for notability of corporations, verifiability, neutrality, COI, and reliable sources. I'll be around if you need to get in touch again. Adrian M. H. 18:16, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
- And I should add, in the interests of transparency, that any content that you or any editor creates is likely to be edited mercilessly in the spirit of WP's collaborative system. That includes cutting out any biased or unreferenced material or any material that sniffs of advertorial. Adrian M. H. 18:19, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
Remember me?
I've been following a few threads, most recently today the biting newcomers issue, and I've been working with DGG, and DESiegel, to create an essay that would help with this problem, as well as the problem that the Template the regulars essay had. At the suggestion of another editor, I've undertaken a project that would help newcomers, and established editors who are new to using template warnings (and it touches on uses of other templates as well) and discourage the "biting" I see regularly. I'd love your input on it if you have some extra time, even if you just have time to comment on the style, layout, etc, or any potentially troubling spots. It is not public, and won't go public until I've gotten enough input from people who are familiar with the issues. Anyway, you were so helpful and kind, I'd love it if you have the time to donate some wisdom here! Ariel♥Gold 19:11, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
- Hello, Ariel! How's it going? I will be happy to scan my eye of over it some time and I will chip in if I have anything worthwhile to add. Regards, Adrian M. H. 19:15, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
company profiles
are company profiles allowed on WP?
i noticed walmart has a page
if they are, how do i go about creating a new page? was creating it first on my talk the way to go?
if company profiles are not allowed to be created, am i allowed to upload pictures of various tree and truck spades to the existing tree transplanting article?
For example one of dutchman treespades products, the Tree Tyer, most people dont even know exist. How do I put info about such a machine up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dutchmanindustries (talk • contribs) 19:40, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
- Please remember to sign your comments. It is mentioned in the new editors' box at the top of this page. As I wrote on your talk page, there are policies and guidelines that govern and guide everyone who edits WP. Some of the most relevant of these were described on your talk page, and it is these that determine whether an article deserves to be here or not. Of course there will be an article about Walmart, just as there is about Microsoft or Sony or any other notable company. There is also quite a lot of crap, to be honest, and we have to deal with that as best we can through cleanup where possible and deletion where necessary. I cannot rule it out, but it is very unlikely that the Microsoft article was written or substantially contributed to by Bill Gates. If he did that, he might introduce the bias that I mentioned (whether intentionally or entirely inadvertently). I would not write about my own company, either. For one thing, it is not notable enough, and if yours is not, then that is something that you may just have to accept. If you decide to take up one of the recommendations that I made earlier, you will need to provide some information about the significant coverage from reliable independent sources that you know about or have found in research. This will help any editor who takes on the task of creating the article or assisting you with the creation. Appropriate use of user space and user talk pages should be taken seriously and if you want to have article content to work on, it needs to go into into a sub-page. See the links at the top of my user page to see how this works. You could just as easily work on it off-line instead, but that limits direct assistance from other editors. Don't forget to read those links on your talk page. Adrian M. H. 20:23, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
Brian Hart
Hi Adrian. No need to apologise. As it happens, it wasn't me that made the original changes (which is why I only reverted the year, which I'm absolutely certain of: the other date change may or may not be right, I don't know off-hand), although you have correctly spotted my bad habit of often editing anonymously :) It's sometimes laziness when only making minor changes and and sometimes caution when editing away from home. And, to be fair, sometimes stupidity in forgetting to sign in! Regarding the date, as I said in the edit summary, it's a bit ambiguous anyway. Strictly it should be something like: The Hart engine was last used in 1986. A ban on turbocharging effective from the end of 1988 was announced in 1986? by the FIA; that would be probably rather too much information, and I'm not quite sure whether there's a causal link between the two facts anyway, Hart may just have pulled out because his engine (fantastic though it was for the budget) just wasn't competitive against the factory efforts. Cheers. 4u1e 10:26, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks, mate. I'd love to be able to improve that article (it's a bit brief and not very well referenced at the moment) but as you have probably found, it's difficult to find any really good sources about Brian Hart. Regards, Adrian M. H. 10:38, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
- I know, I've got loads on the engines (principally in the '1000 BHP Grand Prix cars')....but when I tried a week or so back to pick out stuff on BH, there was actually very little on the man himself, all of which is already in the article! Cheers 4u1e 10:43, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
admin
Hello, I've seen some of your contributions around and was wondering if you'd like to consider adminship over at WP:RFA. Granted, it's tough to say if you're ready yet; I think you are, but you might get some opposes for a modest mainspace count. I'd gladly nominate you though if you're interested now or in the near future. Let me know of your decision. Wizardman 17:25, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
- No, not really. I would appreciate having the extra tools, but I really do not wish to subject myself to the cliquey admission process and overly picky "country club secretaries". If the system ever changes, my opinion might change with it. Adrian M. H. 18:38, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
CQG
I understand fully wikipedia doesn't want corporate material to be posted in articles, however if this is truly the case please enlighten me on why six other firms in the same line of work as CQG is all have articles. If you would like a listing of these firms I will be more than happy to provide them. I can even provide examples of non-neutral prose, if you would like. CQG Inc. 19:27, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
- If you really think that WP does not want articles about businesses, the you have not understood one single word that I have written about this. I have tried to help you and guide you and get you to understand what is and is not good content, but I am just going to have to wash my hands of this. Adrian M. H. 19:29, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
- "Please do not add commercial material to Wikipedia" was the message that i directly recieved from an admin following the deletion of my article. I have read the policies and nothing in my previous article conflicted with them. Nothing in any sentences would lead people to believe it was for promotion of the company. CQG Inc. 19:51, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
Thank you
Thank you very much for the barnstar! It's always nice to get one, particularly from an editor I respect.--Diniz (talk) 10:36, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
Gobbledegook
Was there a reason why you responded to the question with that answer? I ask because I don't see how it's a legitimate answer, and since EA is frequently rendering assistance to editors who might not get the joke, glib responses can seem uncivil. My apologies if I have mischaracterised your post. Anchoress 02:51, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
- You obviously missed the edit summary and/or do not have much sense of humour. Lighten up. If you can't chuckle at the complexity of template syntax, you may need a wikibreak. Adrian M. H. 07:02, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, I did miss the edit summary, and if I did others might have also. I have witnessed firsthand many instances of editors who have gone somewhere asking for help feeling bitten by humour they didn't get, and I was trying to make sure that didn't happen. It was entirely good faith, and I think your response, particularly the comments about my sense of humour and status on WP, were unnecessarily personal and uncharitable. Anchoress 07:44, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
- And as I wrote on your talk page, they were not meant offensively, even though I found your post to be unnecessary and a bit patronising. I really think you need to relax a bit more and worry less about what other people do or think. Anyone would think that you had never read any of the posts that I make at EA or seen the help that I give to new editors. Adrian M. H. 07:49, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, I did miss the edit summary, and if I did others might have also. I have witnessed firsthand many instances of editors who have gone somewhere asking for help feeling bitten by humour they didn't get, and I was trying to make sure that didn't happen. It was entirely good faith, and I think your response, particularly the comments about my sense of humour and status on WP, were unnecessarily personal and uncharitable. Anchoress 07:44, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
NCH question
Thanks for responding. This has been my first attempt to contribute to Wikipedia. Maybe my eyesight or concentration is lapsing. I did get as far as clicking the Upload button after which the 'empty file' response appeared. My intent had been to upload an article (as a file?) about prime numbers etc in the Mathematics/Primes section, having written it, edited it, saved the page, approved the preview and entered the article's title as the source, destination and summary.
What have I not done or done wrong?
Thanks
MIF (Threshold Pilot) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Threshold Pilot (talk • contribs) 11:57, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
- I left an HTML comment next to the {{unsigned2}} template at NCH requesting that you use a section heading and sign your comments. You should, in normal circumstances, continue discussions where they begin, but since you came here, I will reply here rather than at NCH. Upload is for uploading images (as an aside, this is not something that new editors should be doing, because they usually fail to license them correctly) and is not related to articles. To create an article, an editor has first to assess the following:
- Does this subject already have an article or is it already covered in a related article?
- Is the subject notable enough?
- Can I verify the material that I wish to use, or is this original research?
- Can I write this neutrally?
- Will it be at risk of being unsuitable content?
- If you get the right answers to these questions (the guidelines/policies for which are linked above and available on your talk page) then use one of the following techniques:
- Enter into the Search box the exact title that you intend to use, referring first to naming conventions.
- Make a wikilink somewhere, such a sandbox or user sub-page, and click on it. Again, the exact title is very important. I find myself making a lot page moves for new users because they did not do this.
- The above advice assumes that you already have some satisfactory article content that will not be subject to prompt deletion. If you do not have this, I always recommend working offline or in a user sub-page. As you can see from the links on my user page, I often use the latter method. Adrian M. H. 13:17, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
New user
Hi Adrian
I saw your offer of help to new users and am hoping you can guide me a little.
I have just created the user Marquetteturner (Marquette Turner)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Marquetteturner
I cannot, however, find the page when doing a search. Could you please let me know what I've done wrong in the set of Marquette Turner for the profile not to be appearing.
Thanks for your help
Regards, Simon — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marquetteturner (talk • contribs) 02:06, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
- I see a couple of quite major issues relating to the abuse of guidelines for user page content and account names. User:Marquetteturner has been turned into a redirect to User:Marquette Turner, which is an incorrect use of redirection in the user namespace. Secondly, the content at that page is subject to immediate blanking or deletion for violating the userspace content guidelines. As such, I would normally blank it or PROD it, and since you also have the redirect issue, it needs to be deleted as a non-existent account. As such, I have added a Prod nomination. I will add a welcome template to your talk page and I urge you to take the time to read the pages to which it links before making any further significant edits. Adrian M. H. 11:37, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
Threshold Pilot on New Contributors' help page
Hi Adrian; I have left a follow-up message on his user talk page. I didn't realise you were still monitoring this - apologies for the repetition! I also got rather confused with the posts there, but I think I have sorted out what's what now... EyeSereneTALK 16:48, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
- Yeah, thanks for chipping in. Your input is welcome. Threshold Pilot came to my talk page yesterday, which was probably advantageous, because I was able to give a more detailed reply, but it has gone quiet since then. As an aside, your excellent user page now has the honour of appearing in the list at the bottom of my user page! Adrian M. H. 16:52, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
- That's extremely flattering! I'll be smiling all evening now :D
- I doubt you remember, but it was you (back in May) who fixed my talk page for me when the welcome template broke and turned the entire page blue - I took your advice and found out a little about wikimarkup... so it's all down to you really! Anyway, it's good to run across you again, and it makes a change that it's not due to me requesting help this time ;) EyeSereneTALK 17:13, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
Workbenches
Adrian:
Thanks for your help and feedback on my attempts.
I added as references all the books and articles I read for the material for the article. I didn't do embedded footnotes because the 'Citing Sources' page indicated this should be adequate unless a particular statement was likely to challenged.
I also moved most of the illustrations to a gallery - as recommended in the style guide.
Is there anything else that stands out as needing attention?
I reworked the main 'Workbench' article too. Please let me know if I made a total hash of it.
Bob 19:53, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
- Reference-wise, it's OK. You forgot to remove the tag, though, so I did that just now. The content fork problem still exists, and we have to cater for the most logical article titles and organisation of content in order to make WP work well for readers. If were to search for Workbench, I would expect to see at least some of the content from the newer article, albeit in a more pithy format that is strictly encyclopædic with no hint of "DIY book" about it. That's not meant as a criticism, but an observation. Have a read of WP:CFORK (ignoring the bits about POV, which don't apply in this case). I know that it might be a bit of a task to make a good merger, but it really is recommended. Your work on the older article is pretty good so far. By the way; well done for licensing your images correctly and uploading them to Commons as well! Most new editors fall at the licensing hurdle. Adrian M. H. 20:07, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
Hi, would you mind me changing the 'Year of formation' in the infobox template to 'Formation date'? This way it offers more flexibility to give, for example, the month as well as the year of formation. AlexJ 17:09, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
- Not at all; no need to ask, Alex. I just opted for the year because I thought that the exact date would not be widely known in many cases. Adrian M. H. 17:15, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
- Just wanted to make sure as you designed the template. My thinking is year is probably sufficient for older organizations but for modern ones, editors may wish to provide more exact details. Thanks, AlexJ 17:01, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
- I have returned the external link to USAC. We normally include the official website in BOTH the infobox and an external link section in the bottom. This way an article with an infobox is consistent with other articles that do not have an infobox. Royalbroil 01:36, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
- Just wanted to make sure as you designed the template. My thinking is year is probably sufficient for older organizations but for modern ones, editors may wish to provide more exact details. Thanks, AlexJ 17:01, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for agreeing to help out with the copy editing. You're going to find a lot of genitives where I've gone a different way from you on the issue of s's. (Not only with "Troilus" but "Achilles", "Sophocles" etc. too. I was always taught to omit the s after classical and biblical names. Looking at Apostrophe#Singular nouns ending in s, z, or x, different sources seem to argue each way on this.--Peter cohen 10:47, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
- Adrain, thanks for your comments on my page and your work on the first third of Troilus. The medieval/Renaissance section is about the same size as the lede and ancient stuff combined. The modern bit is a lot smaller. I had noticed your work in the middle of the day and that you had reverted the apostrophe change. Agreeing to disagree seems a perfect solution. If I ever look at something by you, I shan't start removing your final esses.
- I saw your comments too and have worked through all the block quotes, as you suggested. It was a certain amount of effort to find out how to format verse in blockquotes. I started by trying to look at the Wordsworth and Shakespeare pages to see how they did it and found they were doing things as I was before without blockquotes, but I eventually found a help page.
- I'll have a think about the essay text and about the list format. On the latter, I found something somewhere saying that definition lists were the way to format things with keywords. I'm not sure of the wiki status of this (guideline, essay or whatever). I'll look it up tomorrow (today). The GA reviewer suggested I merged some of the entries on this list when I put it past him, but I'm not convinced that that makes things easier on the reader.
- On separating notes and references, I've looked at the [[#ref_{{{1}}}|^]] template page and can't make any sense of it, I'm afraid.
- On the length, the most obvious place for a content fork would be on the Troilus and Cressida story. However, the coverage of that area is less than a third of the article and I think its such an important area for the character that it requires substantial coverage in his main article.
- Thanks for the encouraging words too. As someone who occaionally looks at the good article review page, I have noticed that a lot of articles get through with considerably less scrutiny than [{Troilus]] received. --Peter cohen 00:11, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
- On your essay comment, is it just the sentence immediately before the comment that should be dumped, or the previous sentence too?--Peter cohen 13:08, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
- Hello, Peter. The last two sentences in that paragraph are forms of self reference, which should be avoided. The last sentence is the most noticeably "odd" and out of place of the two; the penultimate sentence could be rephrased to avoid the self reference and restrict itself to describing the methods that trusted sources tend to use when examining the subject. Adrian M. H. 16:14, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks, Adrian. I've now carried out the change. The reference was interesting in otherways and has made me realise I can't say "An example is available here [Some link or other]" as the article may appear in a form where the link won't be instantly pressable. --Peter cohen 23:48, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
Welcome templates
Hey there! Just saw the welcome notice you left here and was wondering where that particular template might be found - it's probably the most comprehensive welcome box I've seen, and I'd like to be able to use it. Thanks! Tony Fox (arf!) 15:50, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
Field Commander Site Vandalisation
Dear Adrian,
This individual who is accusing us of putting wrong content on the FC page has been a perpetual trouble-maker on the Field Commander forum and has been banned repeatedly there.
We who run the League of Field Commander are from every continent.
(1) The argument of not having the Field Commander League on the Field Commander page will also hold good for not having the list of World Champions Marathon page or any other game or sport page. This is one individual who is harnessing us repeatedly since the past 3 months.
(2) The League is an Open Championship and any Field Commander player is welcome to join.
(3) It is the only Tournament held for Field Commander players and there is no other such tournament anywhere in the world.
(4) This individual here BlackBeard2k7 is only here to vandalise this page. If you check his history on Wikipedia, he has just done that and nothing else.
(5) He has made personal attacks and libeous statements against me on the FC discussion page.
The owner of the site has been known in the past for making hacking attempts on computers of users he does not like by using the IP address they used to register on his forums with. In addition, he has publicly harrassed other users on the official Sony forum for Field Commander, frequently accusing other players of cheating, threatening their family, using extreme vulgarity toward them and posting personal information about them in public.
(6) You can yourself check the Field Commander Championship site and see for yourself : Field Commander Site
His first argument of removing the League from the Wiki site was that users would get hacked. (Check the history of his edits). When that didn't work with the editors then he has come up with some new warped explaination.
If you have objections after this please be free to ask me on my Talk page before deleting the entries.
Thank you.
Hungrywolf 04:21, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] RFC being used to Haress
Please note the RfC brought by BlackBeard2K7 is being done solely to haress.....
RfCs brought solely to harass or subdue an adversary are not permitted. Repetitive, burdensome, or unwarranted filing of meritless RfCs is an abuse of the dispute resolution process. RfC is not a venue for personal attack.
You may note that BlackBeard2K7 has been flinging wild accusations, personal attacks & libeling me repeatedly (check his accusations against me on the Discussion pages). He is only here to harass and vandalize the Field Commander site.
You may also note that BlackBeard2K7 had put up a WARNING against the Link of the Field Commander Forum that said :
WARNING: You should take care when joining this non-official web site for Field Commander. The owner of the site (July Derek) has been known in the past for making hacking attempts on computers of users he does not like by using the IP address they used to register on his forums with. In addition, he has publicly harrassed other users on the official Sony forum for Field Commander, frequently accusing other players of cheating, threatening their family, using extreme vulgarity toward them and posting personal information about them in public. He has been banned several times by moderators there and most of the offending threads have since been removed. But should be forewarned.
You may now decide if this individual is here to give constructive criticism or here only to harass and vandal.
Hungrywolf 10:45, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
- I have reverted your reversion, in which you used a bad faith edit summary. The opposing editor raised a genuine grievance per WP:V with regard to the lack of a reliable independent source and was within his rights to remove the contested material once you had failed to produce a reliable source. Fora are not reliable sources. I expect you to put aside anything that BlackBeard2K7 wrote on the talk page in the past and address his current concern, which is genuine. Put his attitude aside for now and address this issue properly. I also expect you to respect the response to the 3O request. I do not tolerate edit wars from people who cannot work through disputes properly, and that goes for both you and BlackBeard2K7. If the two of you continue to revert, I will post it at RFPP and it will just result in full protection. I mentioned to BlackBeard2K7 that mediation should be kept as an option; I strongly recommend that you consider this route. Adrian M. H. 12:09, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
- I have not been reverting his world champion section since August 18. Other people have been removing it after seeing that he keeps re-adding it without resolving the dispute (providing verifiable source of his world championship). And Hungrybeard keeps reverting everyones edits, and lengthening the disputed section. He doesn't seem to care about anyones opinions but his own. And he is making it quite difficult to track this dispute (which should be held on the field commander discussion page) by posting the same messages in the talk pages of everyone involved. I highly recommend that you do put protection on the page, as it is my opinion that Hungrywolf will always re-add the inappropriate section and links back to the page regardless of anyones dispute or opinion. Blackbeard2k7 13:36, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
- I think this is not fair as there is a full website related to the League and the Championship. [1] There are over 5000 posts on the Championship League from people all over the globe, from every continent. What further reliable independent source do you want? This is a game, not played by thousands of people but a few dedicated fans. I will put a reference as you want, and will revert your deletion which is totally unfair and based on the rantings of one individual who doesn't own or play the game. Hungrywolf 12:39, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
- Fora are not reliable sources. I have provided my third opinion in your dispute with BlackBeard2K7 and my interest in this ends there, quite frankly. If the two of you cannot sort it out, mediation really is your best option. And remember (as I do) that there are more important things in life than a Wikipedia article. Adrian M. H. 12:43, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
- I have placed the references as you desired. Field Commander is a wonderful game played by a small bunch of enthusiasts. Just because it is a game played not by too many people that shouldn't be cause for deletion of valid entries. Thanks.
- I agree that is not a reason for deletion of valid entries. Unfortunately, "Field Commander World Championship" and repetetive links to personal forums are not valid. Blackbeard2k7 13:39, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
- I have placed the references as you desired. Field Commander is a wonderful game played by a small bunch of enthusiasts. Just because it is a game played not by too many people that shouldn't be cause for deletion of valid entries. Thanks.
Hungrywolf 13:09, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
Hungrywolf
Maybe you need to block Hungrywolf. Check Field Commander he has reverted every one of your edits. I have already responded to his long list of complaints on his own talk page, though he continues to copy/paste it into every talk page of anyone involved in the discussion, making it difficult to keep the dispute in one place. It should be held in the discussion page of the field commander article itself. And to clarify, I do own Field Commander. Blackbeard2k7 13:18, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
- I am not an admin. I am aware, however, that he has made five reversions within the last 24 hours, which is enough to file at WP:AN3. If you wish to make a report, you're welcome to do so. Adrian M. H. 14:32, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
Hello
Hi Adrian,
I came accross your name when browsing through the help chats and you seem to have a good idea on how this site works and seems to be a very hepful person. I am new to WIKIPEDIA and wanted to see if anyone can help me understand or direct me to the right place to lean the fundamentals on how to publish a large glossary of terms on here.
Basically my company and also along with other high-tech companies would like to publish a massive list of terms relating to B2B (Business 2 Business) technlogy standards. Do you know how we would go about starting this?
Any guidence would be much appreciated
Thank you Karen —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Cscokaren (talk • contribs) 14:25, August 22, 2007 (UTC).
- Such content would not be acceptable. It would fail articles 2.1, 2.5, 2.6, 2.7 and 2.9 of WP:NOT and you have a COI angle to consider as well, not to mention the possibility of OR and verifiability issues. I strongly recommend that you do not publish any articles of this nature, because they will be speedily deleted. Adrian M. H. 16:04, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
Threshold mathematics
If you have the time and inclination, your response, as an experienced Wikipedian, to a revised version of Threshold Mathematics... would be appreciated. Someone has already started proposing deletion in 5 days.
Thanks Threshold Pilot 16:06, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
- I'll take a look later and let you know. I'm glad that you were not put off by the previous deletion. It was justified, but even so, it can feel like a bit of a kick in the teeth. Adrian M. H. 16:27, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
- I have to be honest. This should be deleted as an insufficiently referenced POV essay. It is not well written and is full of contradictions and admissions of its own unsuitability for inclusion. For example, you undermine its chances somewhat by stating "Being relatively new, there is no readily available fund of sources and references for directly verifying it." That means that it is likely to infringe WP:NEO and WP:V. You then go from apologising for it to defending it as "not pseudo-mathematics" and all that kind of thing is really not appropriate in an encyclopædia. You later contradict yourself by writing "...not a new mathematical system". You would not expect to see an article like this in Encarta or Brittanica, so it should not be here either. It states in WP:V that "exceptional claims require exceptional sources", which I mention because it could be applied to this. You must remember that how you view something is not necessarily how others who are not close to it will view it, so the references must be good. Footnotes would help the cause, of course. Adrian M. H. 18:32, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
Yes, the points you highlight about verifiability and pseudo-mathematics were (perhaps too hastily) inserted in response to a further tag proposing deletion on those grounds. But they don't enhance the article in this context where form, style and convention seem to be the governing values. Threshold Pilot 07:54, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
A New contributors' help page Barnstar
The Tireless Contributor Barnstar | ||
As the top contributor to Wikipedia:New contributors' help page, you deserve this barnstar. Thank you! Jreferee (Talk) 05:18, 23 August 2007 (UTC) |
Thanks for the help!
Thanks for replying to my userboxes question a while ago...(in May, I think). It really helped! Kukuri and Nike 22:38, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
Random Act of Kindness Barnstar
The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar | ||
Thankyou very much for the help you just gave me on how to customise tabs. That will come in very useful indeed. That you did so without being asked personally is the mark of a great person and Wikipedian. Thankyou very much! Happy editing! Lradrama 11:19, 24 August 2007 (UTC) |
Pick my brains
Hi Adrian, thanks for the Adoption. I have been an IP editor here and there for years ;) I have started two contributions: Castillo de Salas and New Flame which I am improving as I get more information (and I improve my Wiki Skills). I have recently learned to use ref properly and cite templates (as you can see). Could you have a read and comment in the talk section what you think needs to be done, could be done to improve, I haven't done well? I would take that as a "task" of then I can then learn by doing - probably it would take keep me busy for a couple of weeks, as I use Wiki from time to time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Figarema (talk • contribs) 16:11, August 24, 2007 (UTC)
- Bit late getting back to you; apologies for that. These articles are quite good efforts in many respects, particularly in terms of factual content, neutrality, formal tone, and sourcing. There are some things that can be improved, some of which I initiated today in the Castillo de Salas article to start you off on the right foot. I created a quickly knocked together lead section out of the first paragraph (this may need some tweaks to fulfill its brief), adjusted some wikilinks (including those for weights and measures), fixed some typing and spelling errors, and tuned some of the syntax here and there. Speaking of weights and measures; this is one of the areas that needs improvement to bring it into line with Manual of Style (dates and numbers). I also "Europeanised" the metric values (from meter to metre) because only the United States uses meter. Manual of Style (spelling) and WP:ENGVAR are tangentially related to this. New Flame has an excess of bold words, most of which are capitalised as well; proper nouns of objects, events and so on can be italicised when necessary. See Manual of Style (titles) and Manual of Style (text formatting). If you're ready to take it on, you could start converting your source refs to footnotes, for which I have a brief intro guide at the top of my second archive. You have a couple of red linked categories; these should be created if you intend to use them, but first read the guidelines about categories at Help:Category and Categorization. Also worth reading is the guidance at Categories for discussion, where unsuitable categories are debated. Well, I think I have covered everything for now. Post again if you want me to explain anything. Adrian M. H. 16:47, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
3O request
I understand why you have said as much, but a perusal of the discussion makes it quite obvious that there are only two editors who have been talking for some time, and the quality of the conversation is steadily crashing. Surely this matters as well? Thanks, Girolamo Savonarola 21:34, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
- No, it does not. Four editors have stated opinions in the disagreement, which makes it unsuitable for 3O, which is strictly for bi-party disagreements. Otherwise, a single editor's intervention will serve as the tie-breaker that it is intended to be. It is a simple dispute that you should be able to resolve among yourselves by examining the evidence objectively, but if you cannot reach a solution, then take it to RFC. Adrian M. H. 23:13, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
Docklands Light Railway
Thanks for the 3O on DLR - I knew what the outcome would be, but just needed the policies to be pointed out to the user again, by a third party, in the hope that he'd take more notice. However, I doubt it will make a huge difference, so I can see warnings and blockings in his future. *sigh*. Thanks again, TheIslander 21:42, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
- No worries. It might help, now that he has read it from a second editor. If the dispute continues, see if you can get him to meet you in the middle in some way. Adrian M. H. 21:45, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
- Meet in the middle? Not likely. You're quite right - I used the word 'ruling' when I really shouldn't have. It was a moment of frustration. This user is like a speeding train - make that a speeding DLR train - who just won't stop. unsure where to report him (as he's breaking a number of different things all at once...) I've placed a notice on the admin board. Thanks for your input ;) TheIslander 23:50, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
Deleting a page
Pls help I have create double redirect by mistake I want to delete the same — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anisa3k (talk • contribs) 08:59, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
- Admins delete pages, but you do not really need to delete anything to fix a double redirect. Just fix the link at the start of the chain. PS: As it says n the box at the top of my talk page, please sign your coments. Adrian M. H. 10:55, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
Spamming External Links on M.U.L..E. violates Software Copyrights
This is complain for Wikipage on M.U.L.E. [[2]]
BLACKBEARD27K is linking to his personal Website. M.U.L.E. Software Download When that was deleted by the Admins, he is now (indirectly) linking to it via another personal Website.
(1) BLACKBEARD27K is offering, on the above Website, for download a pirated / modified / hacked version of the game M.U.L.E. without the permission of the original authors or publishers ATARI. This is a serious violation of copyright material.
(2) It is in violation of WP:EL as it is SPAM and he is trying to propagate his own web-site Forum here.
(3) Wikipedia is NOT a collection of links.
(4) Also, using common sense, no one should download any executable software from a very unreliable source (as above). Such software may contain trojans and keyloggers which steal your personal information (including Credit Card Nos & passwords)
This individual persists in reverting the deletions. I have deleted the offending link. Please give your opinion regarding this on the M.U.L.E. discussion page.
Thank you !
Hungrywolf 11:33, 29 August 2007 (UTC)