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:Thank You, I'll probably be hitting you up frequently, I seem to have forgotten how to do a lot of things!!"[[User:Selene Scott|Selene Scott]] ([[User talk:Selene Scott|talk]]) 04:45, 2 October 2014 (UTC)" |
:Thank You, I'll probably be hitting you up frequently, I seem to have forgotten how to do a lot of things!!"[[User:Selene Scott|Selene Scott]] ([[User talk:Selene Scott|talk]]) 04:45, 2 October 2014 (UTC)" |
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== Telegram for MONGO == |
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:''OMG! This will be the end of Wikipedia! If conservatives start working on the Barack Obama article we might have to shut the website down! We can't let our slobbering love affair disgrace of a featured article about Obama and other liberal politicians get tainted with any criticism by those mean nasty conservatives! Just who do these conservatives think they are....Wikipedia is for liberals only after all! Besides there has never been any proof that paid left wing or liberal editors have edited articles about conservatives...I mean never ever!'' |
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{{ping|MONGO}} That's hilarious. Watch Fox News much? I dare you to name a single liberal policy or action Obama has taken. You can't because he's one of the most conservative presidents we've ever had. I realize that sounds stark raving mad to anyone glued to Fox News, but if you turn the boob tube off for just a moment, you'll discover it's true. And don't even try pointing to Obamacare, which was was invented by conservatives and supported by Republicans until Obama supported it. Perpetual war and drone attacks? Massive surveillance? No convictions of any major players in the financial crisis? The Federal Reserve being regulated by Goldman? A war on journalists and whistleblowers? Crackdown on Occupy protests? Guantanamo still open? DEA still bans cannabis? Show me the liberalism, please. |
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:''revert absolute moron...do not ever post this left wing shit on my talkpage again or I will make you misson'' |
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[[File:Western Union - NARA - 534039.jpg|thumb|Telegram for Mongo]] |
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Wow. This is not "left wing shit". This is a matter of historical record based on his own positions and policies. You can't simply dismiss reality as a liberal conspiracy. Please turn off Fox News and read a few sources. You can start with American historian [[Bruce Bartlett]], former adviser to Ronald Reagan, who notes that Obama |
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*stimulus bill was half the size that his advisers thought necessary |
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*continued Bush’s war and national security policies without change and even retained Bush’s defense secretary |
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*put forward a health plan almost identical to those that had been supported by Republicans such as Mitt Romney in the recent past, pointedly rejecting the single-payer option favored by liberals |
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*caved to conservative demands that the Bush tax cuts be extended without getting any quid pro quo whatsoever |
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*supported deficit reductions that go far beyond those offered by Republicans |
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Esquire backs it up with solid data and statistics below. Good luck arguing against it. Let's be clear: all the screaming and crying about Obama being a "socialist" or a "liberal" isn't supported by evidence. It's complete nonsense, intended to rally up the teatards and teahadists, and to play to the crowd. When you look at Obama's legislative actions, his policies and his proposals, you are forced to conclude that far from being a liberal, Obama is actually a Republican. Conservatives know this to be true. [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas#top|talk]]) 20:36, 6 October 2014 (UTC) |
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#[http://www.esquire.com/blogs/news/barack-obamas-conservative-utopia Barack Obama's Conservative Utopia in 7 Charts] ''Esquire'' (2014). |
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#[http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/frame_game/2012/11/obama_the_moderate_republican_what_the_2012_election_should_teach_the_gop.html Cheer Up, Republicans. You’re going to have a moderate Republican president for the next four years: Barack Obama]. ''Slate'' (2012). |
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#[http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Columns/2011/07/22/Barack-Obama-The-Democrats-Richard-Nixon Barack Obama: The Democrats’ Richard Nixon?] ''The Fiscal Times'' (2011). |
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#[http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2011/04/27/is-obama-actually-a-moderate-republican/ Is Obama Actually a Moderate Republican?] ''Forbes'' (2011). |
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#[http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/obama-revealed-a-moderate-republican/2011/04/25/AFPrGfkE_story.html Obama revealed: A moderate Republican]. ''The Washington Post'' (2011). |
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Hell
Was that really necessary? I'm not saying your position is wrong but culture (and religion is definitely cultural) is a sensitive topic. As a 6 year old I remember watching Cosmo or some PBS variety with the family and the subject of carbon dating was discussed. Now I couldn't do the math of course, but I knew that people far smarter than me have proved beyond any doubt that the earth is much older than the 5,000 ish years old I was being told in Sunday school. When I asked for an explanation, my folks said its like Santa, we pretend because we've always pretnded. Which led to the subject of "tradition" followed by a forced viewing of Fiddler on the Roof. Basically that taught me to keep my big trap shut. Suffice it to say, people that are horribly wrong, and can't defend their position don't like having it jammed down their throats. That being said I suspect neotarf is using "hell" for some civility crusade instead of being morally outraged. Pay her no mind. She just likes to argue it seems.Two kinds of porkMakin'Bacon 23:38, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
- Santa is a beneficial meme that results in little to no harm. Hell, on the other hand, is what is a called a dangerous meme, and it leads to violence and death. I can't imagine why we should defend harmful beliefs like this. Viriditas (talk) 02:38, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
- Coincidentally a few days ago I was getting off the subway and some fire and brimstone group was annoying the passerbys with the benefits of Jesus via a bullhorn. I walked up and said "Hi, I'm a Jew, and for my whole life people like you have been blaming my people for killing Jesus. Well, I'm not going to deny it. We did kill him, and if he comes back, we'll kill him again." Horribly rude of me, but he was being a public nuisance. But afterwards I felt guilty. Toying with your mental inferiors isn't mucn of a challenge, even if it is satisfying.Two kinds of porkMakin'Bacon 05:33, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
A beer for you!
Hey there! You were the first to welcome me on here and give me advice and barnstars. I'm back after a two year break. Cheers! Selene Scott (talk) 01:05, 30 September 2014 (UTC) |
- Thanks, Selene. Welcome back. Let me know if I can be of any help. Viriditas (talk) 20:02, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
- Thank You, I'll probably be hitting you up frequently, I seem to have forgotten how to do a lot of things!!"Selene Scott (talk) 04:45, 2 October 2014 (UTC)"
Telegram for MONGO
- OMG! This will be the end of Wikipedia! If conservatives start working on the Barack Obama article we might have to shut the website down! We can't let our slobbering love affair disgrace of a featured article about Obama and other liberal politicians get tainted with any criticism by those mean nasty conservatives! Just who do these conservatives think they are....Wikipedia is for liberals only after all! Besides there has never been any proof that paid left wing or liberal editors have edited articles about conservatives...I mean never ever!
@MONGO: That's hilarious. Watch Fox News much? I dare you to name a single liberal policy or action Obama has taken. You can't because he's one of the most conservative presidents we've ever had. I realize that sounds stark raving mad to anyone glued to Fox News, but if you turn the boob tube off for just a moment, you'll discover it's true. And don't even try pointing to Obamacare, which was was invented by conservatives and supported by Republicans until Obama supported it. Perpetual war and drone attacks? Massive surveillance? No convictions of any major players in the financial crisis? The Federal Reserve being regulated by Goldman? A war on journalists and whistleblowers? Crackdown on Occupy protests? Guantanamo still open? DEA still bans cannabis? Show me the liberalism, please.
- revert absolute moron...do not ever post this left wing shit on my talkpage again or I will make you misson
Wow. This is not "left wing shit". This is a matter of historical record based on his own positions and policies. You can't simply dismiss reality as a liberal conspiracy. Please turn off Fox News and read a few sources. You can start with American historian Bruce Bartlett, former adviser to Ronald Reagan, who notes that Obama
- stimulus bill was half the size that his advisers thought necessary
- continued Bush’s war and national security policies without change and even retained Bush’s defense secretary
- put forward a health plan almost identical to those that had been supported by Republicans such as Mitt Romney in the recent past, pointedly rejecting the single-payer option favored by liberals
- caved to conservative demands that the Bush tax cuts be extended without getting any quid pro quo whatsoever
- supported deficit reductions that go far beyond those offered by Republicans
Esquire backs it up with solid data and statistics below. Good luck arguing against it. Let's be clear: all the screaming and crying about Obama being a "socialist" or a "liberal" isn't supported by evidence. It's complete nonsense, intended to rally up the teatards and teahadists, and to play to the crowd. When you look at Obama's legislative actions, his policies and his proposals, you are forced to conclude that far from being a liberal, Obama is actually a Republican. Conservatives know this to be true. Viriditas (talk) 20:36, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
- Selected sources
- Barack Obama's Conservative Utopia in 7 Charts Esquire (2014).
- Cheer Up, Republicans. You’re going to have a moderate Republican president for the next four years: Barack Obama. Slate (2012).
- Barack Obama: The Democrats’ Richard Nixon? The Fiscal Times (2011).
- Is Obama Actually a Moderate Republican? Forbes (2011).
- Obama revealed: A moderate Republican. The Washington Post (2011).