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:: Good point. I assumed you were planning to leave it fully protected for a while. If you plan to remove or reduce the protection when the shooter's identity is more strongly/properly sourced, then I withdraw my protest. :) - [[User:TexasAndroid|TexasAndroid]] ([[User talk:TexasAndroid|talk]]) 22:16, 14 December 2012 (UTC) |
:: Good point. I assumed you were planning to leave it fully protected for a while. If you plan to remove or reduce the protection when the shooter's identity is more strongly/properly sourced, then I withdraw my protest. :) - [[User:TexasAndroid|TexasAndroid]] ([[User talk:TexasAndroid|talk]]) 22:16, 14 December 2012 (UTC) |
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::Perhaps you should shorten the protection to a day or two then as I suspect it won't be long before we have definitive confirmation that Adam Lanza was the shooter, if we do not already have it, and he will obviously be notable given the severity of this event.--[[User:The Devil's Advocate|The Devil's Advocate]] ([[User talk:The Devil's Advocate|talk]]) 22:56, 14 December 2012 (UTC) |
::Perhaps you should shorten the protection to a day or two then as I suspect it won't be long before we have definitive confirmation that Adam Lanza was the shooter, if we do not already have it, and he will obviously be notable given the severity of this event.--[[User:The Devil's Advocate|The Devil's Advocate]] ([[User talk:The Devil's Advocate|talk]]) 22:56, 14 December 2012 (UTC) |
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==Request for clarification on [[WP:ARBSL]]== |
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I have filed a request at [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification and Amendment]] for clarification on the scope of the topic ban placed upon [[User:Brews ohare|Brews ohare]] in the [[WP:ARBSL|Speed of light]] case. As you have recently participated in an [[WP:AE|arbitration enforcement]] request regarding this case and precipitating the clarification request, your comments would be welcome. [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 06:06, 15 December 2012 (UTC) |
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Child computer
Hi. I know it was a long time ago, but I have a question about Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Child computer ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs). The article title may not be the WP:COMMONNAME, but the topic of kid/toy computers (types of Electronic learning products) looks to me like a valid candidate for a fuller notability discussion. I wondered whether any info contained within the following would be useful in revisiting the topic.
- http://www.urbanovergrowth.com/learning-to-think-different/
- http://www.scmp.com/business/china-business/article/1082662/vtech-will-stay-mainland-despite-wage-cost (VTech)
- http://www.spokesman.com/stories/1996/mar/07/let-your-kids-learn-skills-on-look-alike-computer/
- http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1298&dat=19960307&id=i-oyAAAAIBAJ&sjid=zQcGAAAAIBAJ&pg=6982,1222747
- http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/51428
- http://www.heraldonline.com/2012/12/04/4461109/sleigh-bell-network-rock-hill.html
- http://www.4-traders.com/IDT-INTERNATIONAL-LIMITED-6165698/news/IDT-International-Limited-Announcement-of-Interim-Results-for-the-six-months-ended-September-30-2-15556016/ (IDT International)
- http://www.digitaljournal.com/pr/951870
- Speak & Spell (toy) is an obvious early example of this sort of product
Considering the discussion was well over 2 years ago, perhaps I should go to WP:DELREV (or WP:UNDELETE) - but I thought I'd come to you first. What do you think? Thanks. -- Trevj (talk) 23:52, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
- It was deleted because it was created by a sockpuppet of a banned user, not because of notability issues. Feel free to write a new article if you want - no need for DRV. T. Canens (talk) 00:09, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks. Is there content worth userfying to User:Trevj/Child computer, please? Working with existing text is generally much quicker than starting from scratch. -- Trevj (talk) 01:01, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
- Do you have any further comments on this, please? -- Trevj (talk) 09:21, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
- Sorry about delay, I somehow missed this. There's no reference worth salvaging in the deleted revisions, and I'm rather doubtful that you'd find the text to be of much assistance as its quality is quite poor too. I'd rather not userfy a G5'd page, at least unless it's really, really worth it, since that rather defeats the purpose of the speedy criterion. T. Canens (talk) 09:28, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
- No problem - I know from experience that it's easy to miss talk page follow-ups. That's fair enough for the deleted version, however User:Nudecline/Child computer wasn't G5d so I've added the above refs and temporarily moved it to my userspace. Without going into the history of the ban and the SPI (I really don't have the time/inclination to do so, unless you feel it would especially illuminating for me in relation to this particular article), the draft doesn't seem to be POV and IMO is a useful starting point. I'm actually failing to have a WIkibreak at the moment, and have only done this now in order to note it here before the discussion's archived. I hope that you don't have any strong objection to my actions, and I'll endeavour to work on the draft and move it to article space (probably under a new title, depending on the content at that time) by April 2013. Thanks.-- Trevj (talk) 21:06, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
- Sorry about delay, I somehow missed this. There's no reference worth salvaging in the deleted revisions, and I'm rather doubtful that you'd find the text to be of much assistance as its quality is quite poor too. I'd rather not userfy a G5'd page, at least unless it's really, really worth it, since that rather defeats the purpose of the speedy criterion. T. Canens (talk) 09:28, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
- Do you have any further comments on this, please? -- Trevj (talk) 09:21, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks. Is there content worth userfying to User:Trevj/Child computer, please? Working with existing text is generally much quicker than starting from scratch. -- Trevj (talk) 01:01, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
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Could I ask you to please undo your full protection of this (currently) redirect. From precedent for these kind of incidents, there will quickly be (IMHO) a need for a separate article on the shooter. We will likely go through the normal wave of merge requests and AFDs on it, but to preemptively prevent such a page from even being created seems improper to me. I suspect that there will be plenty of admin eyes on it if/when the separate article begins to take form. - TexasAndroid (talk) 21:48, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
- I'll be happy to unprotect it (or probably better, reduce it to semi) once we get a better confirmation that he's the shooter. I'd rather not do it on a quote from someone speaking on the condition of anonymity when an earlier such source was apparently wrong. T. Canens (talk) 22:02, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
- Good point. I assumed you were planning to leave it fully protected for a while. If you plan to remove or reduce the protection when the shooter's identity is more strongly/properly sourced, then I withdraw my protest. :) - TexasAndroid (talk) 22:16, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
- Perhaps you should shorten the protection to a day or two then as I suspect it won't be long before we have definitive confirmation that Adam Lanza was the shooter, if we do not already have it, and he will obviously be notable given the severity of this event.--The Devil's Advocate (talk) 22:56, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
Request for clarification on WP:ARBSL
I have filed a request at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification and Amendment for clarification on the scope of the topic ban placed upon Brews ohare in the Speed of light case. As you have recently participated in an arbitration enforcement request regarding this case and precipitating the clarification request, your comments would be welcome. Seraphimblade Talk to me 06:06, 15 December 2012 (UTC)